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Post by zenfootball2 on Aug 8, 2022 17:17:42 GMT 1
What is Labours specific plan to tackle to cost of living crisis and energy crisis? Genuine question, have they set out what their specific points would be to tackle it? I'd be intrigued to read over it in brief, I'm p**sed off with all of them at the moment. Me too. I criticise the Tories as they are in government, but have little enthusiasm for Starmer, his sitting on the fence and lack of policies. This is all they've said on the cost of living crisis: "Labour’s plan to take real action now to tackle the Conservatives’ cost of living crisis: Cut VAT on home energy bills. Save on energy bills now and in the longer term by insulating millions of homes. Cut small business rates and support businesses through the cost of living storm. Buy, make and sell more in Britain to create well-paid, secure jobs in every community". labour.org.uk/members/campaignresources/campaignmaterials/costoflivingcrisis/?bsearch_highlightAnd that's it! Here's Ed Miliband's energy policy: labourlist.org/2022/03/labour-set-to-unveil-five-point-plan-for-energy-security-and-sovereignty/Seems totally unrealistic to me, but fairly predictable he'd promote this sort of stuff. Ed Milband says nothing about tidal energy or geothermal energy wich will provide much more reliable power than wind power, we need to build huse up to passiuve house standerds they just dont have a clue, passive house cost 20% more than a standerd house but then you see you energy bills reduce by 75% so you qickly recoup your money. |
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Post by davycrockett on Aug 8, 2022 17:24:40 GMT 1
In response to the absence of NHS a dentistry, the Govt said it “was a priority”. Oh, so that’s alright then, problem over. Why hasn’t it been a priority for the last 12 years for goodness sake? is that similar to the priority to recruit NHS staff and cut ambulance waiting times which is a priority ? It’s a bit like elderly care with the £86k lifetime cap coming in next October (23) not budgeted and if you make enquiries form the local authority that will have to take over funding of 10s of thousands currently self funding they haven’t got a clue what’s going on. |
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Post by zenfootball2 on Aug 8, 2022 18:02:01 GMT 1
Danny boy picks another loser - first remained loyal to Boris, then a campaigner for Hunt. Clueless to the end is our Danny. we have the misfortune to have him as our MP |
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Post by armchairfan on Aug 8, 2022 18:02:11 GMT 1
The ultimate beauty - and ultimate con - of socialism, is that it always DOES sound so simple, attractive and beneficial to all; fortunately the majority of the electorate tend to the view that if something seems almost too good to be true, the chances are that it damn well is.... The majority of the electorate are politically semi literate at best. #Shrewsbury Loyal types... I'm not entirely sure what you mean by that dismissive reflection on the British people, but, assuming that you have some sort of desire for "change", whatever that may be, you are hardly likely to garner their support for your quest by making such remarks, so as a consequence, you are unlikely to bring about the changes which you want....keep up the good work! haha |
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Post by zenfootball2 on Aug 8, 2022 18:45:13 GMT 1
unfortently i dont see either of them as capable of getting the uk out of the mess we are curently in. but then i dont see Starmer has what it takes either.
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Post by northwestman on Aug 9, 2022 9:21:57 GMT 1
DM has an agenda to bring back Boris, so despite on the face of it they are backing Truss, I'm not surprised that this article has been published by them: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11094485/Truss-Sunak-campaigns-accuse-writing-electoral-suicide-note.htmlThe Tory leadership row over the cost-of-living crisis deepened today as Liz Truss was accused of writing an 'electoral suicide note' with her plans for economic reform. Deputy Prime Minister Dominic Raab, who is supporting Rishi Sunak, sparked fury in the opposition camp as he levelled the claim at his opponent, the current favorite to enter No10. He said her strategy for dealing with inflation and the cost of living crunch - through tax cuts as soon as she takes power - risked casting the Tories into the 'impotent oblivion of opposition'. |
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Post by northwestman on Aug 9, 2022 10:08:50 GMT 1
There is a revisionist campaign to portray Mr Johnson as some kind of victim, the brilliant but flawed Prime Minister who delivered Brexit and led us bravely through the pandemic only to be forced, brutally, out of office by power-hungry, disloyal colleagues who acted chiefly through self-interest. This is the narrative that is being played out over a thousand column inches, in countless briefings, and, it seems, among the Conservative Party faithful.
But now we have an orchestrated attempt to rehabilitate Mr Johnson’s sorry reputation, or at least to prevent it being further corroded. Mr Johnson is facing a Privileges Committee inquiry into whether he misled Parliament when he denied last December that any Covid laws were broken in Downing Street. You might think that this was a rather important matter to unpick, but we are invited by senior Tories to regard it as a “witch-hunt”, “Machiavellian” and “vengeful”.
Nadine Dorries, the culture minister, and Zac Goldsmith, ennobled by Mr Johnson when he lost his parliamentary seat, have both come out to implore the Privileges Committee to take the unprecedented step of abandoning their inquiry now that Johnson has resigned. Both Dorries and Goldsmith have been the beneficiaries of Mr Johnson’s patronage, and, while Dorries has repaid him with blind loyalty, Goldsmith gave him the use of his Andalusian villa. They say that not only is the inquiry motivated by revenge, it is unnecessary.
“An obscene abuse of power,” says Goldsmith. “A kangaroo court,” says Dorries. They believe that, even though the Conservatives have a majority on the committee, the members have an axe to grind against Johnson.
We simply cannot allow this line of argument to gather pace. It doesn’t matter that Johnson has already resigned in disgrace. History demands that we need to know the truth of what happened in service of the public, and it’s much esasier to get to the facts when recollections are fresh and text messages are more easily recoverable.
Simon Kelner. The 'i'.
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Post by northwestman on Aug 9, 2022 11:00:31 GMT 1
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Post by kp on Aug 9, 2022 13:48:24 GMT 1
The majority of the electorate are politically semi literate at best. #Shrewsbury Loyal types... I'm not entirely sure what you mean by that dismissive reflection on the British people, but, assuming that you have some sort of desire for "change", whatever that may be, you are hardly likely to garner their support for your quest by making such remarks, so as a consequence, you are unlikely to bring about the changes which you want....keep up the good work! haha I think you might be over estimating the reach of B&A if I am honest, also, it was in no way a political pitch for votes. In order to make it clear, the electorate in the UK is poorly informed and easily distracted. You get the government you deserve, after all... As for change, I'm alright Jack, actually, haha... |
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Post by northwestman on Aug 9, 2022 14:55:26 GMT 1
www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/aug/09/liz-truss-stands-firm-on-tax-cuts-over-support-for-energy-billsLiz Truss has doubled down on her refusal to offer significant help to people with soaring energy bills this winter, despite a forecast that these could exceed £4,200 annually from January, and rise further during 2023. Truss, the runaway favourite to succeed Boris Johnson as prime minister next month, has already said she does not want to give “handouts” to people struggling with bills, preferring to prioritise tax cuts. While she has not definitively ruled out other direct help, questioned on Tuesday the foreign secretary would only confirm plans to reverse the recent increase in national insurance, and to temporarily suspend green levies on energy bills. Critics of her policy warn that tax cuts disproportionately help the better off and offer no assistance to pensioners or those not in work, while the green levies contribute only about £150 annually to the average bill. Truss’s insistence on tax cuts rather than other forms of help for households has become a major dividing line in the leadership race. A spokesperson for the campaign of her rival, former chancellor Rishi Sunak, said Truss was “divorced from reality” on the issue, adding: “Liz’s plan will not touch the sides for the majority of British families this winter and pensioners will get no help whatsoever.”
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Post by armchairfan on Aug 9, 2022 15:16:45 GMT 1
I'm not entirely sure what you mean by that dismissive reflection on the British people, but, assuming that you have some sort of desire for "change", whatever that may be, you are hardly likely to garner their support for your quest by making such remarks, so as a consequence, you are unlikely to bring about the changes which you want....keep up the good work! haha I think you might be over estimating the reach of B&A if I am honest, also, it was in no way a political pitch for votes. In order to make it clear, the electorate in the UK is poorly informed and easily distracted. You get the government you deserve, after all... As for change, I'm alright Jack, actually, haha... Whether or not it constituted "a pitch for votes" is hardly the matter, but the fact is that such derisive views are not not going to endear you to the electorate at large, B&A or not, nor for that matter, with your comrades and friends who must continue to seek that support if the changes which you evidently desire are to come about - we have the great fortune to live in a democracy, imperfect though it may be; with friends like you, those on the Left of British politics (and I have no idea whether that includes you) have no need of enemies! |
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Post by northwestman on Aug 9, 2022 15:31:48 GMT 1
Millions of people are experiencing a cost of living crisis not because there’s not enough to go around, but because wealth and power is hoarded by a privileged few. Alongside a record squeeze on living standards, Britain is also home to record wealth. Multinational corporations such as BP and Shell have announced eye-watering profits (nearly £50bn for the oil giants at the last count), while this year’s Sunday Times Rich List revealed that Britain is home to more billionaires than ever. Meanwhile, bankers’ bonuses have reached levels not seen since the 2008 financial crisis. It’s a cost of living crisis for the many, but it’s a bonanza for the few. This crisis is the result of a choice: do we build an economy that satisfies corporate greed, or one that meets people’s needs? Time and again, Britain’s political class has opted for their greed over our need. www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/aug/09/cost-of-living-crisis-corporate-greed-labour-party |
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Post by zenfootball2 on Aug 9, 2022 16:08:32 GMT 1
were ever you look the chickens are coming home to roost, nhs dentist service. broken britain with a usless shower at the helm sleeze in public life amongst the people who are suposed to run this country law and order who in there right mind would wanbt to be a policeman / person they have a thankless job and when they do catch somone the courts just give them a slap the wrist www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-62253893"Nine in 10 NHS dental practices across the UK are not accepting new adult patients for treatment under the health service, a BBC investigation has found.In a third of the UK's more than 200 council areas, we found no dentists taking on adult NHS patients. And eight in 10 NHS practices are not taking on children". the NHS health services it does not matter which department you look at there are chronic shortages of staff and lemgthy waiting lists. im retired but still belong to the RCN and i had the information through on voting to go on strike somthing i never thought hte RCN would do but i expect them to vote for a strike. Transport the infastructure for trains / roads have not had the funding it is has needed Farming due to neglect from successive goverments our farming is in mess we rely on imports for 46% of our a large amount of this from the EU( i know we have always imported food but many parts of farming are really struggling) Education teachers are given insane targets/ huge workload and burn out is a factor in teachers leaving In response to a YouGov TeacherTrack survey of over a thousand teaching staff commissioned by the mental health and wellbeing charity, one in two (50%) reported having suffered at least one characteristic associated with work-related burnout 'all the time' since the beginning of this school year ( wiki) Defence we have a shrinking army that is increasingly reliant on the Army Reserve , the military it is wisdowm decided to buy two aircraft carriers but we dont have enough ships to protect them ! ukdefencejournal.org.uk/british-army-tank-numbers-drop-to-148-from-227/British Army tank numbers drop to 148 Challenger 3 from 227 challenger 2 tanks with increased reliance on hte boxer armoured fighting veichle www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/labour-government-mps-mark-francois-john-healey-b954527.htmlA defence minister has cast fresh doubt on a “troubled” £5.5 billion light tank programme beset by noise and vibration problems that caused injuries to personnel. cost of living , food prices , petrol prices, electricity & gas are all on the rise and causing real hardship amongst the most vunerable fat cats been payed obscene bonus |
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Post by zenfootball2 on Aug 9, 2022 16:34:26 GMT 1
Former Scottish Conservative leader Ruth Davidson is in my view the best and most honurable conservative and she declined to stand for PM as she said it would be detremental for her menatal health,
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Post by kenwood on Aug 9, 2022 21:47:35 GMT 1
Former Scottish Conservative leader Ruth Davidson is in my view the best and most honurable conservative and she declined to stand for PM as she said it would be detremental for her menatal health, The thought of Sunak or Truss becoming Prime Minister is detrimental to my mental health! |
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Post by northwestman on Aug 10, 2022 8:14:22 GMT 1
There is now no doubt in my mind that Truss is the Boris Johnson continuity candidate.
She reckons that he did a 'great job' as PM.
She parrots out the same lines as he does - 'Brexit done (it hasn't been), vaccine rollout, Ukraine - whilst airbrushing out his numerous failings.
She considers that the media are to blame for him being removed.
If possible, she wants to prevent the Commons Privileges Committee from continuing to investigate whether Johnson may have committed a contempt of parliament by misleading it.
The best spin I can put on this is that she's taking this stance in order to get onside the numerous Johnson supporters in the Membership, but her robust defence of Johnson, saying that she regrets him going and doesn't want him investigated any further is hardly indicative of a new start.
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Post by northwestman on Aug 10, 2022 8:25:27 GMT 1
Most prime ministers might have done things rather differently. Seen out their last few weeks in office at No 10 with dignity and go on vacation in September. To protect their legacy if nothing else. But Johnson sees things through the prism of his own narcissism. His legacy has always been about his own self-gratification. So he takes his pleasures where and when he feels like it. He wants it. He takes it. He won’t pay the price. That’s for Lords Brownlow and Bamford: bank-rollers in chief to Team Johnson. And right now he can’t be bothered to do anything. Not even a photo op. So we’re left with a half-asleep government. Drifting pointlessly around in decreasing circles. www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/aug/09/truss-and-sunak-completely-unreliable-narrators-of-their-own-campaigns |
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Post by staffordshrew on Aug 10, 2022 8:51:26 GMT 1
Truss talks of the Conservative way being to cut tax, but her plans don't really strike me as Conservative as she is going to massively increase borrowing to fund it. Sunak has a history of meddling interventions: we might all feel a little better off if he hadn't frozen tax bands, suspended the pay element of the triple lock on pensions and pocketed nearly all the extra VAT he's made as prices have risen. My old mum used to say that if the Tories get in, the rich get richer and the average working person gets poorer. If Labour get in the poor get richer and the average working person gets poorer. Seems to me if Truss gets in the rich will get richer, because they benefit more from tax cuts, and the average working person will get poorer, if Sunak gets in the poor will get richer, with targeted fuel subsidies, and the average working person will get poorer.
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Post by kp on Aug 10, 2022 8:54:25 GMT 1
I think you might be over estimating the reach of B&A if I am honest, also, it was in no way a political pitch for votes. In order to make it clear, the electorate in the UK is poorly informed and easily distracted. You get the government you deserve, after all... As for change, I'm alright Jack, actually, haha... Whether or not it constituted "a pitch for votes" is hardly the matter, but the fact is that such derisive views are not not going to endear you to the electorate at large, B&A or not, nor for that matter, with your comrades and friends who must continue to seek that support if the changes which you evidently desire are to come about - we have the great fortune to live in a democracy, imperfect though it may be; with friends like you, those on the Left of British politics (and I have no idea whether that includes you) have no need of enemies! None of which changes the factual content of my post. Politically semi literate...at best. Hence, we are where we are. Enjoy. As an afterthought, what percentage of the electorate even bothered to vote in the last round of local elections? Do you know what percentage of people can even name the MP or just the constituency in which they live? This is from an organisation called Hansard, you maybe aware of them? www.djsresearch.co.uk/LocalGovernmentMarketResearchInsightsAndFindings/article/75-per-cent-of-people-dont-know-who-their-local-MP-is-survey-finds-02315Yet you believe these people are simultaneously informed and politically astute? |
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Post by kp on Aug 10, 2022 9:09:07 GMT 1
Truss talks of the Conservative way being to cut tax, but her plans don't really strike me as Conservative as she is going to massively increase borrowing to fund it. Sunak has a history of meddling interventions: we might all feel a little better off if he hadn't frozen tax bands, suspended the pay element of the triple lock on pensions and pocketed nearly all the extra VAT he's made as prices have risen. My old mum used to say that if the Tories get in, the rich get richer and the average working person gets poorer. If Labour get in the poor get richer and the average working person gets poorer. Seems to me if Truss gets in the rich will get richer, because they benefit more from tax cuts, and the average working person will get poorer, if Sunak gets in the poor will get richer, with targeted fuel subsidies, and the average working person will get poorer.
Times have changed. The poor are now your average working person...no one is looking at the sub class who are sleeping rough and tackling metal health and substance abuse issues. I mean just look at our town centres. |
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Post by staffordshrew on Aug 10, 2022 9:16:09 GMT 1
Truss talks of the Conservative way being to cut tax, but her plans don't really strike me as Conservative as she is going to massively increase borrowing to fund it. Sunak has a history of meddling interventions: we might all feel a little better off if he hadn't frozen tax bands, suspended the pay element of the triple lock on pensions and pocketed nearly all the extra VAT he's made as prices have risen. My old mum used to say that if the Tories get in, the rich get richer and the average working person gets poorer. If Labour get in the poor get richer and the average working person gets poorer. Seems to me if Truss gets in the rich will get richer, because they benefit more from tax cuts, and the average working person will get poorer, if Sunak gets in the poor will get richer, with targeted fuel subsidies, and the average working person will get poorer. Times have changed. The poor are now your average working person... They certainly will be with this winter's energy bills - neither of our potential new PMs really offers any hope to the average person, a little bit of saved tax from one, a little bit of our own money paid back to us in the form of a grant from the other. |
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Post by northwestman on Aug 10, 2022 9:25:32 GMT 1
A key issue for me is Sunak's freezing of personal tax allowances until 2026. This is a stealth tax which will result in billions more going into the Treasury. Yet Sunak's disingenuous argument that unfreezing them would disproportionately benefit the better off ignores the fact that by doing so he'd be taking a significant number of low paid workers out of the tax system altogether. Truss of course has no such qualms when promising to remove the N.I. levy, which unquestionably will be of more benefit to the better off, and won't benefit pensioners at all. www.radiotimesmoney.com/news/tax-allowance-is-frozen-until-25-26/ |
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Post by staffordshrew on Aug 10, 2022 9:26:51 GMT 1
The sub class who are sleeping rough and tackling mental health and substance abuse issues can only grow as people give up hope and jump out of the "system". It will be similar to the times when large numbers upped sticks, abandoned the home they were buying and gave up on their mortgage. Many will reach breaking point.
Don't see anything being said by the Church of England or anyone about the situation. The only "infuencer" speaking up seems to be Martin Lewis.
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Post by staffordshrew on Aug 10, 2022 9:37:41 GMT 1
A key issue for me is Sunak's freezing of personal tax allowances until 2026. This is a stealth tax which will result in billions more going into the Treasury. Yet Sunak's disingenuous argument that unfreezing them would disproportionately benefit the better off ignores the fact that by doing so he'd be taking a significant number of low paid workers out of the tax system altogether. Truss of course has no such qualms when promising to remove the N.I. levy, which unquestionably will be of more benefit to the better off, and won't benefit pensioners at all. www.radiotimesmoney.com/news/tax-allowance-is-frozen-until-25-26/Sunak's legacy as Chancellor is to highlight that it's best to avoid "meddling" with tax rates. Things like the tax allowances going up each year with inflation were put in after a lot of thought and adhered to by both parties. Meddle with ordinary people's take home income and it makes an immediate difference - Meddle with the Sunak's income and it might mean a slightly cheaper villa for the holidays. A good or bad man, he's just too rich to understand. |
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Post by northwestman on Aug 10, 2022 10:02:48 GMT 1
Consumer champion Martin Lewis has said that for every £100 a month that people pay on direct debit for their energy bills now, that will go up to £181 probably at the end of August, before the new prime minister is in place, and rise again to £215 in January.
Sitting down with the energy companies is the right thing to do but ultimately it is government and government alone that can make the decision to stop the terrible cataclysmic risk millions of people in our nation face this winter and it needs to do it soon.
He said with the difference in the energy price cap likely to double between April and January, the chancellor should also double all the figures in his support package.
Liz Truss, the frontrunner to become prime minister, has pledged tax cuts, but Lewis said:
Tax cuts will not help the millions of the poorest in society who have to choose between heating and eating, because they are not paying tax.
Tax cuts are not going to help the poorest pensioners, it’s not going to help those on universal credit. The dropping the green levy is a sticking plaster on a gaping wound. It’s £150.
By the time we get to January, some people will see their bills go from £800 to £4,200 on the same use.
This is a national crisis on the scale we saw in the pandemic.
If it’s just tax cuts and the green levy, then we’re going to leave millions destitute and in danger this winter and that cannot happen in our country.
The Guardian.
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Post by kp on Aug 10, 2022 10:24:47 GMT 1
Consumer champion Martin Lewis has said that for every £100 a month that people pay on direct debit for their energy bills now, that will go up to £181 probably at the end of August, before the new prime minister is in place, and rise again to £215 in January. Sitting down with the energy companies is the right thing to do but ultimately it is government and government alone that can make the decision to stop the terrible cataclysmic risk millions of people in our nation face this winter and it needs to do it soon. He said with the difference in the energy price cap likely to double between April and January, the chancellor should also double all the figures in his support package. Liz Truss, the frontrunner to become prime minister, has pledged tax cuts, but Lewis said: Tax cuts will not help the millions of the poorest in society who have to choose between heating and eating, because they are not paying tax. Tax cuts are not going to help the poorest pensioners, it’s not going to help those on universal credit. The dropping the green levy is a sticking plaster on a gaping wound. It’s £150. By the time we get to January, some people will see their bills go from £800 to £4,200 on the same use. This is a national crisis on the scale we saw in the pandemic. If it’s just tax cuts and the green levy, then we’re going to leave millions destitute and in danger this winter and that cannot happen in our country. The Guardian. If only some political party had pledged to tackle this very issue in their manifesto or something. We could have all voted for them and avoided this obvious transfer of wealth that is currently being enabled. If only. |
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Post by martinshrew on Aug 10, 2022 10:26:59 GMT 1
Consumer champion Martin Lewis has said that for every £100 a month that people pay on direct debit for their energy bills now, that will go up to £181 probably at the end of August, before the new prime minister is in place, and rise again to £215 in January. Sitting down with the energy companies is the right thing to do but ultimately it is government and government alone that can make the decision to stop the terrible cataclysmic risk millions of people in our nation face this winter and it needs to do it soon. He said with the difference in the energy price cap likely to double between April and January, the chancellor should also double all the figures in his support package. Liz Truss, the frontrunner to become prime minister, has pledged tax cuts, but Lewis said: Tax cuts will not help the millions of the poorest in society who have to choose between heating and eating, because they are not paying tax. Tax cuts are not going to help the poorest pensioners, it’s not going to help those on universal credit. The dropping the green levy is a sticking plaster on a gaping wound. It’s £150. By the time we get to January, some people will see their bills go from £800 to £4,200 on the same use. This is a national crisis on the scale we saw in the pandemic. If it’s just tax cuts and the green levy, then we’re going to leave millions destitute and in danger this winter and that cannot happen in our country. The Guardian. If only some political party had pledged to tackle this very issue in their manifesto or something. We could have all voted for them and avoided this obvious transfer of wealth that is currently being enabled. If only. Have no fear, captain hindsight has all the answers ... Only on things that have passed though. |
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Post by kp on Aug 10, 2022 10:32:54 GMT 1
If only some political party had pledged to tackle this very issue in their manifesto or something. We could have all voted for them and avoided this obvious transfer of wealth that is currently being enabled. If only. Have no fear, captain hindsight has all the answers ... Only on things that have passed though. Hindsight would be looking back on something? If a manifesto pledged in 2019 to take utilities into public ownership and we apply that to the current situation that would not be hindsight, the fact that private energy companies are clearly profiteering from current geo-political affairs could just be coincidence or it could be deemed to be foresight? After all capitalist are going to capitalise? Hope you are enjoying the current governance of your country. |
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Post by martinshrew on Aug 10, 2022 10:44:56 GMT 1
Have no fear, captain hindsight has all the answers ... Only on things that have passed though. Hindsight would be looking back on something? If a manifesto pledged in 2019 to take utilities into public ownership and we apply that to the current situation that would not be hindsight, the fact that private energy companies are clearly profiteering from current geo-political affairs could just be coincidence or it could be deemed to be foresight? After all capitalist are going to capitalise? Hope you are enjoying the current governance of your country. You're as naive as the comrade if you think the private companies will roll over and sell back the railways, energy etc and just take a pittance for it. |
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Post by kp on Aug 10, 2022 10:56:34 GMT 1
Hindsight would be looking back on something? If a manifesto pledged in 2019 to take utilities into public ownership and we apply that to the current situation that would not be hindsight, the fact that private energy companies are clearly profiteering from current geo-political affairs could just be coincidence or it could be deemed to be foresight? After all capitalist are going to capitalise? Hope you are enjoying the current governance of your country. You're as naive as the comrade if you think the private companies will roll over and sell back the railways, energy etc and just take a pittance for it. I know what hinsight is though... |
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