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Post by northwestman on Aug 8, 2022 9:58:37 GMT 1
www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/anne-marie-trevelyan-expenses-rent-22171032A Northumberland MP is claiming cash from the taxpayer to rent a £1,800-a-month London pad - despite owning a flat of her own in the capital. Since she was elected in 2015, Berwick MP Anne-Marie Trevelyan has raked back more than £136,000 in expenses for London accommodation costs. Over the same period, the International Trade Secretary has also owned a rental flat in London which she chooses not to live in. The flat is listed on the register of members' financial interests as being worth over £100,000 and/or giving rental income of over £10,000 a year. Meanwhile, The Independent Parliamentary Standards Authority (IPSA) reveals her accommodation expenses, including rent, bills and council tax, have run to £136,590.26 since 2015. Ms Trevelyan suggested voters weren't interested in the issue, saying most of her constituents wrote to her about "local issues". And she said there was no "wider" issue of corruption in politics, saying: "I don’t consider that there’s a need for an inquiry. Why? Because I don’t think there is a wider problem here.”
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Post by ssshrew on Aug 8, 2022 10:05:03 GMT 1
Meanwhile while these so called politicians are point scoring, the Health Secretary is worried about nothing being sorted before a new PM is appointed; NHS dentists are a dying species and inflation continues to rise.
And people wonder why everyone is cheesed off with everything.
None of them seem to be mature enough to run the country - it’s like being back in the Primary School playground when I was a dinner supervisor except the children made more sense.
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Post by northwestman on Aug 8, 2022 10:11:21 GMT 1
Sunak has written in the papers this morning:
"Families are facing a long, hard winter with rising bills.
Yet Liz’s plan to deal with that is to give a big bung to large businesses and the well-off, leaving those who most need help out in the cold.
Worse still, she has said she will not provide direct support payments to those who are feeling the pinch most.
Scrapping the health and social care levy will give the average worker around £170.
But someone on the national living wage will get less than £60 for the year.
Pensioners will not get a penny.
And her corporation tax cuts don’t benefit small businesses – they just put money back in the coffers of the biggest companies with the largest profits.
These tax cuts simply won’t touch the sides.
We need clear-eyed realism, not starry-eyed boosterism".
Much of this sounds like a Labour party press release. That may help to explain why Truss, not Sunak, is on course to win, but it also illustrates how damaging this leadership contest has been for the reputation of the Conservative party as a whole. The candidates have been writing the scripts for Labour’s next campaign adverts.
The Guardian.
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Post by martinshrew on Aug 8, 2022 10:19:50 GMT 1
What is Labours specific plan to tackle to cost of living crisis and energy crisis?
Genuine question, have they set out what their specific points would be to tackle it? I'd be intrigued to read over it in brief, I'm p**sed off with all of them at the moment.
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Post by northwestman on Aug 8, 2022 10:41:36 GMT 1
What is Labours specific plan to tackle to cost of living crisis and energy crisis? Genuine question, have they set out what their specific points would be to tackle it? I'd be intrigued to read over it in brief, I'm p**sed off with all of them at the moment. Me too. I criticise the Tories as they are in government, but have little enthusiasm for Starmer, his sitting on the fence and lack of policies. This is all they've said on the cost of living crisis: "Labour’s plan to take real action now to tackle the Conservatives’ cost of living crisis: Cut VAT on home energy bills. Save on energy bills now and in the longer term by insulating millions of homes. Cut small business rates and support businesses through the cost of living storm. Buy, make and sell more in Britain to create well-paid, secure jobs in every community". labour.org.uk/members/campaignresources/campaignmaterials/costoflivingcrisis/?bsearch_highlightAnd that's it! Here's Ed Miliband's energy policy: labourlist.org/2022/03/labour-set-to-unveil-five-point-plan-for-energy-security-and-sovereignty/Seems totally unrealistic to me, but fairly predictable he'd promote this sort of stuff. |
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Post by kp on Aug 8, 2022 11:32:20 GMT 1
What is Labours specific plan to tackle to cost of living crisis and energy crisis? Genuine question, have they set out what their specific points would be to tackle it? I'd be intrigued to read over it in brief, I'm p**sed off with all of them at the moment. You would probably have to go back to the last manifesto produced under Corbyn for one. The current leadership seem to be reactive. |
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Post by frankwellshrews on Aug 8, 2022 11:32:47 GMT 1
I'm a fan of Milliband's list.
The only way out of this energy mess is to reduce demand for gas and increase supply of energy from renewable sources and the only way we are going to do that is by making buildings and businesses more energy efficient and investing in nuclear, wind etc.
Anything which doesn't dent demand for gas is wrong headed and tantamount to burying your head in the sand and hoping it will all go away. Cutting tax, subsidies etc, all these do is kick the can further down the road.
Just shows what a terrible error the country made not electing Milliband in 2015.
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Post by martinshrew on Aug 8, 2022 11:40:31 GMT 1
I'm a fan of Milliband's list. The only way out of this energy mess is to reduce demand for gas and increase supply of energy from renewable sources and the only way we are going to do that is by making buildings and businesses more energy efficient and investing in nuclear, wind etc. Anything which doesn't dent demand for gas is wrong headed and tantamount to burying your head in the sand and hoping it will all go away. Cutting tax, subsidies etc, all these do is kick the can further down the road. Just shows what a terrible error the country made not electing Milliband in 2015. Hopefully there's some hefty grants and government initiative for solar, batteries and other green energy ASAP? |
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Post by staffordshrew on Aug 8, 2022 11:41:01 GMT 1
What is Labours specific plan to tackle to cost of living crisis and energy crisis? Genuine question, have they set out what their specific points would be to tackle it? I'd be intrigued to read over it in brief, I'm p**sed off with all of them at the moment. What we need is that Jeremy Corbyn chap and McDonell, was it? They had a plan, in their manifesto - for everything  |
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Post by kp on Aug 8, 2022 11:46:25 GMT 1
What is Labours specific plan to tackle to cost of living crisis and energy crisis? Genuine question, have they set out what their specific points would be to tackle it? I'd be intrigued to read over it in brief, I'm p**sed off with all of them at the moment. What we need is that Jeremy Corbyn chap and McDonell, was it? They had a plan, in their manifesto - for everything No doubt you checked out what they were actually saying for yourself rather than hearing it from a 3rd party and dismissing it on that basis? Here is an extract from the Manifesto that lost and saw the Tory landslide and gave us Johnson and the current situation... Energy use in buildings accounts for 56% of the UK’s total emissions, making it the single most polluting sector. We will develop the recommendations of our ‘30 by 2030’ report to put the UK on track for a net-zero-carbon energy system within the 2030s – and go faster if credible pathways can be found. We will deliver nearly 90% of electricity and 50% of heat from renewable and low-carbon sources by 2030. We will build: 7,000 new offshore wind turbines 2,000 new onshore wind turbines Enough solar panels to cover 22,000 football pitches. New nuclear power needed for energy security. We will trial and expand tidal energy and invest to reduce the costs of renewable and low-carbon hydrogen production. We will upgrade almost all of the UK’s 27 million homes to the highest energy-efficiency standards, reducing the average household energy bill by £417 per household per year by 2030 and eliminating fuel poverty. We will introduce a zero-carbon homes standard for all new homes. As part of heat decarbonisation, we will roll out technologies like heat pumps, solar hot water and hydrogen, and invest in district heat networks using waste heat. To balance the grid, we will expand power storage and invest in grid enhancements and interconnectors. We will expand distributed and community energy, and immediately and permanently ban fracking. We will support energy workers through transition and guarantee them retraining and a new, unionised job on equivalent terms and conditions. We will introduce a windfall tax on oil companies, so that the companies that knowingly damaged our climate will help cover the costs. We will provide a strategy to safeguard the people, jobs and skills that depend on the offshore oil and gas industry. |
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Post by frankwellshrews on Aug 8, 2022 11:46:47 GMT 1
I'm a fan of Milliband's list. The only way out of this energy mess is to reduce demand for gas and increase supply of energy from renewable sources and the only way we are going to do that is by making buildings and businesses more energy efficient and investing in nuclear, wind etc. Anything which doesn't dent demand for gas is wrong headed and tantamount to burying your head in the sand and hoping it will all go away. Cutting tax, subsidies etc, all these do is kick the can further down the road. Just shows what a terrible error the country made not electing Milliband in 2015. Hopefully there's some hefty grants and government initiative for solar, batteries and other green energy ASAP? Cast your mind back a bit, this was a central plank of Corbyn's manifesto but at the time we were all told by the economic sages at Tory HQ this was "unrealistic". You may also remember the Tories tried a green grant scheme for homeowners. It was a total balls up as you could only qualify if you were willing to have certain additional procedures done that won't work for most of Britain's aging hoysing stock that principally needs doirs and windows upgrading above anything else. Some vaguely competent governance that isn't in thrall to vested interests is all we need, the solutions are obvious. |
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Post by staffordshrew on Aug 8, 2022 11:48:20 GMT 1
Needs someone to take this country by the scruff of it's neck. If we had kicked off some green energy and insulation projects in earnest a few years ago we would be reaping the benefits now. Was it Osbourne that let the major builders off the hook a few years ago by halting the implementation of rules for zero carbon house building?
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Post by kp on Aug 8, 2022 11:51:48 GMT 1
Hopefully there's some hefty grants and government initiative for solar, batteries and other green energy ASAP? Cast your mind back a bit, this was a central plank of Corbyn's manifesto but at the time we were all told by the economic sages at Tory HQ this was "unrealistic". You may also remember the Tories tried a green grant scheme for homeowners. It was a total balls up as you could only qualify if you were willing to have certain additional procedures done that won't work for most of Britain's aging hoysing stock that principally needs doirs and windows upgrading above anything else. Some vaguely competent governance that isn't in thrall to vested interests is all we need, the solutions are obvious. It was all just so unreasonable though and the guy is a commie terrorist sympathiser who can't do up his tie properly. So we can safely ignore this... We will not achieve the promise of a fair and sustainable economy if we repeat the mistakes of the carbon era, when the capture of a natural resource for private profit created a vastly unequal and polluting economy dominated by powerful vested interests. It’s not just carbon. From the depletion of fish stocks to the burning of the Amazon, profit has proved a poor regulator for use of our natural resources. Whether it is the trillions of litres of water lost through leakages, barriers to renewable energy connecting to the grid or the billions of pounds of bill-payers’ money being siphoned off in dividends to wealthy shareholders, Tory privatisation of our utilities has been a disaster for both our planet and our wallets. We will put people and planet before profit by bringing our energy and water systems into democratic public ownership. In public hands, energy and water will be treated as rights rather than commodities, with any surplus reinvested or used to reduce bills. Communities themselves will decide, because utilities won’t be run from Whitehall but by service-users and workers. Public ownership will secure democratic control over nationally strategic infrastructure and provide collective stewardship for key natural resources. In the case of energy, it will also help deliver Labour’s ambitious emissions targets. Whereas private network companies have failed to upgrade the grid at the speed and scale needed, publicly owned networks will accelerate and co-ordinate investment to connect renewable and low-carbon energy while working with energy unions to support energy workers through the transition. Under Labour’s plans: A new UK National Energy Agency will own and maintain the national grid infrastructure and oversee the delivery of our decarbonisation targets. 14 new Regional Energy Agencies will replace the existing district network operators and hold statutory responsibility for decarbonising electricity and heat and reducing fuel poverty. The supply arms of the Big Six energy companies will be brought into public ownership where they will continue to supply households with energy while helping them to reduce their energy demands. The Conservatives allowed the proceeds of North Sea oil to be squandered on tax cuts for the richest and captured in profits for the few, instead of investing them in our future. We now stand at an even greater crossroads in the development of our national economy. Under Labour, our green future will be owned by all of us. Whenever public money is invested in an energy generation project, the public sector will take a stake and return profits to the public. |
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Post by staffordshrew on Aug 8, 2022 11:52:22 GMT 1
What we need is that Jeremy Corbyn chap and McDonell, was it? They had a plan, in their manifesto - for everything No doubt you checked out what they were actually saying for yourself rather than hearing it from a 3rd party and dismissing it on that basis? Here is an extract from the Manifesto that lost and saw the Tory landslide and gave us Johnson and the current situation... Energy use in buildings accounts for 56% of the UK’s total emissions, making it the single most polluting sector. We will develop the recommendations of our ‘30 by 2030’ report to put the UK on track for a net-zero-carbon energy system within the 2030s – and go faster if credible pathways can be found. We will deliver nearly 90% of electricity and 50% of heat from renewable and low-carbon sources by 2030. We will build: 7,000 new offshore wind turbines 2,000 new onshore wind turbines Enough solar panels to cover 22,000 football pitches. New nuclear power needed for energy security. We will trial and expand tidal energy and invest to reduce the costs of renewable and low-carbon hydrogen production. We will upgrade almost all of the UK’s 27 million homes to the highest energy-efficiency standards, reducing the average household energy bill by £417 per household per year by 2030 and eliminating fuel poverty. We will introduce a zero-carbon homes standard for all new homes. As part of heat decarbonisation, we will roll out technologies like heat pumps, solar hot water and hydrogen, and invest in district heat networks using waste heat. To balance the grid, we will expand power storage and invest in grid enhancements and interconnectors. We will expand distributed and community energy, and immediately and permanently ban fracking. We will support energy workers through transition and guarantee them retraining and a new, unionised job on equivalent terms and conditions. We will introduce a windfall tax on oil companies, so that the companies that knowingly damaged our climate will help cover the costs. We will provide a strategy to safeguard the people, jobs and skills that depend on the offshore oil and gas industry. In no way am I dismissing it. Unfortunately almost everyone else did. Corbyn's manifesto was the radical kick up the pants the country needed, but the establishment beat him down. |
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Post by kp on Aug 8, 2022 11:56:32 GMT 1
No doubt you checked out what they were actually saying for yourself rather than hearing it from a 3rd party and dismissing it on that basis? Here is an extract from the Manifesto that lost and saw the Tory landslide and gave us Johnson and the current situation... Energy use in buildings accounts for 56% of the UK’s total emissions, making it the single most polluting sector. We will develop the recommendations of our ‘30 by 2030’ report to put the UK on track for a net-zero-carbon energy system within the 2030s – and go faster if credible pathways can be found. We will deliver nearly 90% of electricity and 50% of heat from renewable and low-carbon sources by 2030. We will build: 7,000 new offshore wind turbines 2,000 new onshore wind turbines Enough solar panels to cover 22,000 football pitches. New nuclear power needed for energy security. We will trial and expand tidal energy and invest to reduce the costs of renewable and low-carbon hydrogen production. We will upgrade almost all of the UK’s 27 million homes to the highest energy-efficiency standards, reducing the average household energy bill by £417 per household per year by 2030 and eliminating fuel poverty. We will introduce a zero-carbon homes standard for all new homes. As part of heat decarbonisation, we will roll out technologies like heat pumps, solar hot water and hydrogen, and invest in district heat networks using waste heat. To balance the grid, we will expand power storage and invest in grid enhancements and interconnectors. We will expand distributed and community energy, and immediately and permanently ban fracking. We will support energy workers through transition and guarantee them retraining and a new, unionised job on equivalent terms and conditions. We will introduce a windfall tax on oil companies, so that the companies that knowingly damaged our climate will help cover the costs. We will provide a strategy to safeguard the people, jobs and skills that depend on the offshore oil and gas industry. In no way am I dismissing it. Unfortunately almost everyone else did. Corbyn's manifesto was the radical kick up the pants the country needed, but the establishment beat him down. You reap what you sow. To everyone who elected the current encumbants...enjoy. |
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Post by kp on Aug 8, 2022 11:57:50 GMT 1
I'm a fan of Milliband's list. The only way out of this energy mess is to reduce demand for gas and increase supply of energy from renewable sources and the only way we are going to do that is by making buildings and businesses more energy efficient and investing in nuclear, wind etc. Anything which doesn't dent demand for gas is wrong headed and tantamount to burying your head in the sand and hoping it will all go away. Cutting tax, subsidies etc, all these do is kick the can further down the road. Just shows what a terrible error the country made not electing Milliband in 2015. Hopefully there's some hefty grants and government initiative for solar, batteries and other green energy ASAP? They really should already be in place. |
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Post by martinshrew on Aug 8, 2022 12:08:50 GMT 1
No doubt you checked out what they were actually saying for yourself rather than hearing it from a 3rd party and dismissing it on that basis? Here is an extract from the Manifesto that lost and saw the Tory landslide and gave us Johnson and the current situation... Energy use in buildings accounts for 56% of the UK’s total emissions, making it the single most polluting sector. We will develop the recommendations of our ‘30 by 2030’ report to put the UK on track for a net-zero-carbon energy system within the 2030s – and go faster if credible pathways can be found. We will deliver nearly 90% of electricity and 50% of heat from renewable and low-carbon sources by 2030. We will build: 7,000 new offshore wind turbines 2,000 new onshore wind turbines Enough solar panels to cover 22,000 football pitches. New nuclear power needed for energy security. We will trial and expand tidal energy and invest to reduce the costs of renewable and low-carbon hydrogen production. We will upgrade almost all of the UK’s 27 million homes to the highest energy-efficiency standards, reducing the average household energy bill by £417 per household per year by 2030 and eliminating fuel poverty. We will introduce a zero-carbon homes standard for all new homes. As part of heat decarbonisation, we will roll out technologies like heat pumps, solar hot water and hydrogen, and invest in district heat networks using waste heat. To balance the grid, we will expand power storage and invest in grid enhancements and interconnectors. We will expand distributed and community energy, and immediately and permanently ban fracking. We will support energy workers through transition and guarantee them retraining and a new, unionised job on equivalent terms and conditions. We will introduce a windfall tax on oil companies, so that the companies that knowingly damaged our climate will help cover the costs. We will provide a strategy to safeguard the people, jobs and skills that depend on the offshore oil and gas industry. In no way am I dismissing it. Unfortunately almost everyone else did. Corbyn's manifesto was the radical kick up the pants the country needed, but the establishment beat him down. Corbyn was a dangerous individual who would've dragged the country backwards. Him, McDonnell and the like should be absolutely nowhere near the forefront of British politics. |
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Post by frankwellshrews on Aug 8, 2022 12:10:26 GMT 1
In no way am I dismissing it. Unfortunately almost everyone else did. Corbyn's manifesto was the radical kick up the pants the country needed, but the establishment beat him down. Corbyn was a dangerous individual who would've dragged the country backwards. Him, McDonnell and the like should be absolutely nowhere near the forefront of British politics. And yet his policy would have put us in a far stronger position had the country elected him in 2019. |
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Post by staffordshrew on Aug 8, 2022 12:23:24 GMT 1
In no way am I dismissing it. Unfortunately almost everyone else did. Corbyn's manifesto was the radical kick up the pants the country needed, but the establishment beat him down. Corbyn was a dangerous individual who would've dragged the country backwards. Him, McDonnell and the like should be absolutely nowhere near the forefront of British politics. You believed the hype then!
Don't know him personally, but neither do you, though when I attended his rally at Telford Town Park, what he said made sense.
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Post by armchairfan on Aug 8, 2022 13:33:31 GMT 1
Corbyn was a dangerous individual who would've dragged the country backwards. Him, McDonnell and the like should be absolutely nowhere near the forefront of British politics. You believed the hype then!
Don't know him personally, but neither do you, though when I attended his rally at Telford Town Park, what he said made sense.
The ultimate beauty - and ultimate con - of socialism, is that it always DOES sound so simple, attractive and beneficial to all; fortunately the majority of the electorate tend to the view that if something seems almost too good to be true, the chances are that it damn well is.... |
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Post by staffordshrew on Aug 8, 2022 13:42:44 GMT 1
You believed the hype then!
Don't know him personally, but neither do you, though when I attended his rally at Telford Town Park, what he said made sense.
The ultimate beauty - and ultimate con - of socialism, is that it always DOES sound so simple, attractive and beneficial to all; fortunately the majority of the electorate tend to the view that if something seems almost too good to be true, the chances are that it damn well is.... I think it's safe to say Mr Armchair that your view is entrenched deep within you and is never going to change.
Immediately after the 2019 election it did seem like Boris picked up a few ideas from Corbyn's manifesto. A well thought out Labour manifeto to some extent delivered by a Tory government in their own style - a little like working together for the good of the country.
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Post by armchairfan on Aug 8, 2022 14:14:04 GMT 1
The ultimate beauty - and ultimate con - of socialism, is that it always DOES sound so simple, attractive and beneficial to all; fortunately the majority of the electorate tend to the view that if something seems almost too good to be true, the chances are that it damn well is.... I think it's safe to say Mr Armchair that your view is entrenched deep within you and is never going to change.
Immediately after the 2019 election it did seem like Boris picked up a few ideas from Corbyn's manifesto. A well thought out Labour manifeto to some extent delivered by a Tory government in their own style - a little like working together for the good of the country.
To an extent, I agree with you, especially your opening sentence; I would, however shift the emphasis in your second sentence to "a TORY government implementing tory policies along with appropriate essentially socialist policies, for example in respect of the NHS, NATIONAL education and NATIONAL defence, for the good of the country....each to his own, I suppose - a polishing-up of the "post-war concensus".... |
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Post by staffordshrew on Aug 8, 2022 14:23:20 GMT 1
Brandon Lewis, the former Northern Ireland secretary, insisted Ms Truss was “not ruling out” further direct help amid a row over her approach to spiralling fuel bills.
On Friday, the Foreign Secretary said in an interview with the Financial Times that she would approach the problem “in a Conservative way of lowering the tax burden, not giving out handouts”.
But supporters of Ms Truss, including her former leadership rival Penny Mordaunt, claimed her remarks were misinterpreted after they were seized on by Rishi Sunak’s campaign.
Asked repeatedly by Nick Robinson whether “handouts” would feature in the emergency budget that Ms Truss plans to introduce if elected, Mr Lewis said: “That would be pre-judging a Budget that we’ve not had yet.
“Liz has been very clear, she wants to make sure we are doing all we can to help people but based on a low-tax principle and that means putting more money in people’s pockets.
“We can’t yet predict what will be in that emergency budget.”
What a great strategy, in answer to what would a Truss government do, fob them off by saying "We will be having an emergency budget". When asked what a Truss government would do in an emergency budget, you can tell them that "it would be wrong to pre-judge a budget" A cunning strategy, but it leaves no one, least of all Liz Truss, knowing what they would do to alleviate the cost of living crisis.
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Post by kp on Aug 8, 2022 14:57:57 GMT 1
In no way am I dismissing it. Unfortunately almost everyone else did. Corbyn's manifesto was the radical kick up the pants the country needed, but the establishment beat him down. Corbyn was a dangerous individual who would've dragged the country backwards. Him, McDonnell and the like should be absolutely nowhere near the forefront of British politics. I like the way you addressed the proposed policies and their merits and shortcomings and didn't just repeat some trope that you picked up from a third party. Of course Truss, Johnson and Patel are exactly where they should be and just the sort of characters who should be at the forefront of British politics. Like I said, you reap what you sow, enjoying it I take it? |
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Post by kp on Aug 8, 2022 14:59:16 GMT 1
You believed the hype then!
Don't know him personally, but neither do you, though when I attended his rally at Telford Town Park, what he said made sense.
The ultimate beauty - and ultimate con - of socialism, is that it always DOES sound so simple, attractive and beneficial to all; fortunately the majority of the electorate tend to the view that if something seems almost too good to be true, the chances are that it damn well is.... The majority of the electorate are politically semi literate at best. #Shrewsbury Loyal types... |
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Post by kp on Aug 8, 2022 15:00:34 GMT 1
Corbyn was a dangerous individual who would've dragged the country backwards. Him, McDonnell and the like should be absolutely nowhere near the forefront of British politics. You believed the hype then!
Don't know him personally, but neither do you, though when I attended his rally at Telford Town Park, what he said made sense.
Lots of his constituents do and they have continually re-elected him. Not to say this means he is any good but it is a better indication than reading something produced by Dacre et al. |
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Post by kp on Aug 8, 2022 15:09:51 GMT 1
What a danger.
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Post by Worthingshrew on Aug 8, 2022 16:18:56 GMT 1
In response to the absence of NHS a dentistry, the Govt said it “was a priority”. Oh, so that’s alright then, problem over.
Why hasn’t it been a priority for the last 12 years for goodness sake?
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Post by ssshrew on Aug 8, 2022 16:56:14 GMT 1
Everything is a priority when they are caught out about something. However, it would seem that the cost of living crisis isn’t a priority now. Downing Street says it won’t do anything at this time and we must wait for the new PM which by my reckoning is just under a month away. Lame Duck just doesn’t describe the current set up. He might as well have gone immediately for all the good he is doing. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-62467987 |
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