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Post by zenfootball2 on Jul 26, 2022 11:42:08 GMT 1
Have either candidate pledged anything on fuel poverty, extra money for insulation, major renewable energy infrastructure projects, extra grants for solar panels on your roof or anything yet? Surely energy, and it's cost, is our most pressing problem? the conservatives stopped the feed in tarrifs in 2019 . im no expert as i dont have solar but i belive you can still sell your solar electricity to energy companies but it is a pittance. if the goverment were serious about the environment htey would make it law that all new houses were up to passive standerd , reintroduce the feed in tarrif and give a proper grant to retrofit your house but equally make the whole process simplier , in contrast the irish goverment gives homeowners a 50% grant to retrofit your house with Three fifths of Irish homes need major retrofit to improve energy efficiency the irish goverment grasped the nettle and they deserve credit for it, in contrast the uk has been shambolic www.seai.ie/blog/irelands-housing/Upgrading Ireland’s housing stock to minimise the greenhouse gas emissions from heating, lighting and appliance use is a national priority. |
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Post by Pilch on Jul 26, 2022 12:47:24 GMT 1
just listened to last night debate
here are my findings
truss
loves stoke on trent
reveals she had a common upbringing
claim sunak is taking us into a recession
incredibly weak
sunak
loves himself
claims he was common too and went to a private school 😳
claims truss will raise mortgage payments
incredibly ignorant
raworth
clear winner of this debate 😮
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Post by northwestman on Jul 26, 2022 12:58:20 GMT 1
Levelling up. What levelling up? www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/levelling-up-johnson-truss-sunak-b2130806.htmlThe gap in public spending between London and the North has doubled since Boris Johnson came to power, despite his pledge to “level up” the country, new figures reveal. The capital has surged ahead of England’s poorest region in terms of cash handed out by the government – proving that “the money simply didn’t follow the rhetoric”, according to the think tank behind the analysis. The data also shows that, three years after the prime minister stood outside No 10 and vowed to level up the nation, public spending in the North has now fallen behind the average for England. |
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Post by zenfootball2 on Jul 26, 2022 16:27:11 GMT 1
i dont see anything in either of them that has the vision, backbone or ability to get this country out of the mess it is in and i dont see it in labour either .
one has risen taxes at a time when everyone is on there knees and the other has signed a trade deal that has thrown uk farmers under a bus or i should say a tractor.
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Post by wookeywombat on Jul 26, 2022 16:38:02 GMT 1
Both were asked to say, yes or no, if the queues at Dover were as a result of Brexit. Both said No. What?  |
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Post by Pilch on Jul 26, 2022 16:50:07 GMT 1
Both were asked to say, yes or no, if the queues at Dover were as a result of Brexit. Both said No. What? maybe everyone else is right and you are wrong I mean imagine how long the queues would be if there was free movement  |
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Post by wookeywombat on Jul 26, 2022 18:34:40 GMT 1
Both were asked to say, yes or no, if the queues at Dover were as a result of Brexit. Both said No. What? maybe everyone else is right and you are wrong I mean imagine how long the queues would be if there was free movement Everyone else is right? No one in their right minds would think that the queues were anything else but to do with Brexit. The honest answer by both candidates would have been yes. Unless you or anyone else can argue otherwise. I would be interested to hear. |
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Post by kenwood on Jul 26, 2022 18:58:23 GMT 1
The latest Tory debate has come to a sudden end.
The presenter having collapsed on set .
It must have been caused by the sudden realisation that Boris could be making a return😂
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Post by martinshrew on Jul 26, 2022 18:59:06 GMT 1
maybe everyone else is right and you are wrong I mean imagine how long the queues would be if there was free movement Everyone else is right? No one in their right minds would think that the queues were anything else but to do with Brexit. The honest answer by both candidates would have been yes. Unless you or anyone else can argue otherwise. I would be interested to hear. What about Brexit has caused queues? Maybe it's a lack of staff, staff absence, issues the French side? At the end of the day, these companies have been paying peanuts too long, they can't fill vacancies because they're offering minimum wage, it's an employee's market. Time to pay up. |
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Post by kenwood on Jul 26, 2022 19:17:36 GMT 1
i dont see anything in either of them that has the vision, backbone or ability to get this country out of the mess it is in and i dont see it in labour either . one has risen taxes at a time when everyone is on on there knees and the other has signed a trade deal that has thrown uk farmers under a bus or i should say a tractor. We will rue the day we ignored our farmers . We must , imo , do all we can to encourage our farmers otherwise we will be in even deeper trouble. Im seriously considering turning part of my back garden into a veg. plot I’m that concerned. F.ck knows what those who live in high rise flats or homes without a decent garden area can do . I’m not joking, this government needs to seriously take on board an ever growing problem . The cost of fertiliser has gone through the roof and the big Supermarkets are strangling farmers by paying them bugger all for milk. , beef etc. The crunch will come when supermarket shelves are empty . When will we ever learn, this problem has been well documented and yet it’s been ignored . Our pig farmers have had to dispose of animals because our abattoirs couldn’t cope due to a lack of staff and our fruit and veg has been left to rot because there is no one available to harvest the produce . Whether it’s a legacy of Brexit I don’t know but things aren’t going to improve in a hurry. Wheres me spade , I’m going to turn over a few sods 😉 |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2022 19:24:35 GMT 1
Everyone else is right? No one in their right minds would think that the queues were anything else but to do with Brexit. The honest answer by both candidates would have been yes. Unless you or anyone else can argue otherwise. I would be interested to hear. What about Brexit has caused queues? Maybe it's a lack of staff, staff absence, issues the French side? At the end of the day, these companies have been paying peanuts too long, they can't fill vacancies because they're offering minimum wage, it's an employee's market. Time to pay up. I looked at baggage handler vacancies at Heathrow a couple of weeks ago. Less than £2,000 more than I'm on working 9-5 in Telford for long, hard shifts, 7 day working, nights and the cost of accommodation down there. It's a joke.
The problem with Dover and Folkstone is that before you enter the port you have get past French passport control, but they had staffing issues on the busiest travel day of the year. Was it genuine or was it contrived? That's up for debate.
It also takes longer to get through on a normal day since Brexit as they now have to examine every passport more thoroughly and stamp every one. It may only be 15 seconds or so extra per person, but when many vehicles have 3,4,5 or more passengers and thousands of vehicles are turning up one after the other, those seconds soon add up to minutes and hours. Before Brexit we were members of the EU and passports didn't need to be stamped, now we are a 'third country' they do need stamps in them, to ensure that people aren't overstaying the 90 days in 180.
Is Brexit the main cause? Probably not. Has it made the issue worse? Almost certainly.
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Post by wookeywombat on Jul 26, 2022 20:56:45 GMT 1
Everyone else is right? No one in their right minds would think that the queues were anything else but to do with Brexit. The honest answer by both candidates would have been yes. Unless you or anyone else can argue otherwise. I would be interested to hear. What about Brexit has caused queues? Maybe it's a lack of staff, staff absence, issues the French side? At the end of the day, these companies have been paying peanuts too long, they can't fill vacancies because they're offering minimum wage, it's an employee's market. Time to pay up. The queues are there because people and HGVs have to go through a process which before Brexit they did not have to go through that's irrespective of any employment issues. What companies anyway? They are government employees so you can blame the Tories for any shortfall on this side of the crossing. |
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Post by zenfootball2 on Jul 26, 2022 21:19:33 GMT 1
i dont see anything in either of them that has the vision, backbone or ability to get this country out of the mess it is in and i dont see it in labour either . one has risen taxes at a time when everyone is on on there knees and the other has signed a trade deal that has thrown uk farmers under a bus or i should say a tractor. We will rue the day we ignored our farmers . We must , imo , do all we can to encourage our farmers otherwise we will be in even deeper trouble. Im seriously considering turning part of my back garden into a veg. plot I’m that concerned. F.ck knows what those who live in high rise flats or homes without a decent garden area can do . I’m not joking, this government needs to seriously take on board an ever growing problem . The cost of fertiliser has gone through the roof and the big Supermarkets are strangling farmers by paying them bugger all for milk. , beef etc. The crunch will come when supermarket shelves are empty . When will we ever learn, this problem has been well documented and yet it’s been ignored . Our pig farmers have had to dispose of animals because our abattoirs couldn’t cope due to a lack of staff and our fruit and veg has been left to rot because there is no one available to harvest the produce . Whether it’s a legacy of Brexit I don’t know but things aren’t going to improve in a hurry. Wheres me spade , I’m going to turn over a few sods 😉 the goverment has relied on cheap imports well that is coming to an end, between the goverment and the supermarkets farmers have been very badly treated. |
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Post by staffordshrew on Jul 26, 2022 21:25:38 GMT 1
just listened to last night debate here are my findings truss loves stoke on trent reveals she had a common upbringing claim sunak is taking us into a recession incredibly weak sunak loves himself claims he was common too and went to a private school 😳 claims truss will raise mortgage payments incredibly ignorant raworth clear winner of this debate 😮 a dig at Sunak and Truss, what a damn coincidence one is in the final 2 contending the tory leadership and the other is in the final 2 contending the tory leadership if only they had lost you'd be moaning about 2 other people. |
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Post by zenfootball2 on Jul 27, 2022 9:08:20 GMT 1
Rishi Sunak's pledge on Britain's digital future
Sunak pledged to push through Digital Markets, Competition and Consumer Bill Bill aims to prevent big tech companies from exploiting consumers and rivals
all fine but just as important
if he was serious he would tax facebook and the rest properly last year they made over £20 billion profit they paid just over £400 million that is about 2and half % uk coporation tax is 19% so why is it not nearly £4 billion? yes i know they know all the clauses ,£4 billion could help train nurses or start to retro fit houses up to passive house standerds
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Post by staffordshrew on Jul 27, 2022 9:30:30 GMT 1
The latest Tory debate has come to a sudden end. The presenter having collapsed on set . It must have been caused by the sudden realisation that Boris could be making a return😂 Maybe she heard Sunak might backtrack on VAT on energy bills and Truss has had a brilliant idea that the police should solve more crimes.
The idea that one of them's going to be our next PM makes me feel faint too.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jul 27, 2022 9:35:51 GMT 1
Everyone else is right? No one in their right minds would think that the queues were anything else but to do with Brexit. The honest answer by both candidates would have been yes. Unless you or anyone else can argue otherwise. I would be interested to hear. What about Brexit has caused queues? Maybe it's a lack of staff, staff absence, issues the French side? At the end of the day, these companies have been paying peanuts too long, they can't fill vacancies because they're offering minimum wage, it's an employee's market. Time to pay up. When looking to the number of lanes that were open though that was down to a shortage of French staff wasn't it? Nothing the UK can do other than to ask the French to make sure all the lanes are staffed (which I think has been the case since). |
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Post by Pilch on Jul 27, 2022 9:37:47 GMT 1
just listened to last night debate here are my findings truss loves stoke on trent reveals she had a common upbringing claim sunak is taking us into a recession incredibly weak sunak loves himself claims he was common too and went to a private school 😳 claims truss will raise mortgage payments incredibly ignorant raworth clear winner of this debate 😮 a dig at Sunak and Truss, what a damn coincidence one is in the final 2 contending the tory leadership and the other is in the final 2 contending the tory leadership if only they had lost you'd be moaning about 2 other people. oh dear i clearly said this was based on just monday nights debate |
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Post by zenfootball2 on Jul 27, 2022 9:41:05 GMT 1
The latest Tory debate has come to a sudden end. The presenter having collapsed on set . It must have been caused by the sudden realisation that Boris could be making a return😂 Maybe she heard Sunak might backtrack on VAT on energy bills and Truss has had a brilliant idea that the police should solve more crimes.
The idea that one of them's going to be our next PM makes me feel faint too.
neither inspire confidence that they have what it takes to lead us out of the mess, we need a giant and we have two who are verically challenged / minnows . |
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Post by staffordshrew on Jul 27, 2022 9:41:29 GMT 1
a dig at Sunak and Truss, what a damn coincidence one is in the final 2 contending the tory leadership and the other is in the final 2 contending the tory leadership if only they had lost you'd be moaning about 2 other people. oh dear i clearly said this was based on just monday nights debate  |
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Post by kenwood on Jul 27, 2022 9:54:59 GMT 1
The latest Tory debate has come to a sudden end. The presenter having collapsed on set . It must have been caused by the sudden realisation that Boris could be making a return😂 Maybe she heard Sunak might backtrack on VAT on energy bills and Truss has had a brilliant idea that the police should solve more crimes.
The idea that one of them's going to be our next PM makes me feel faint too.
Your comment re Truss and her idea about policing made me chuckle - really it should make me cry . Surely things can’t get any worse. |
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Post by staffordshrew on Jul 28, 2022 11:25:58 GMT 1
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Post by kenwood on Jul 29, 2022 7:21:26 GMT 1
Just more ammunition for Mad Nad to use against the BBC . |
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Post by staffordshrew on Jul 29, 2022 9:31:34 GMT 1
Looks like the next PM is going to be Liz Truss. Rishi Sunak is on a sticky wicket as he can't offer much to help member's finances in the cost of living crisis as he has already had every chance to do so as Chancellor.
Things really look bleak, such a shame that Penny Mordaunt or Nadim Zahawi didn't get through to offer something different.
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Post by martinshrew on Jul 29, 2022 10:47:34 GMT 1
Looks like the next PM is going to be Liz Truss. Rishi Sunak is on a sticky wicket as he can't offer much to help member's finances in the cost of living crisis as he has already had every chance to do so as Chancellor. Things really look bleak, such a shame that Penny Mordaunt or Nadim Zahawi didn't get through to offer something different. Badenoch would've been true change, I think she'd have wiped the floor with either of them. Labour have had a decade, they should be like a well oil machine, 1/12 on and ready to govern, that couldn't be further from the truth. WHAT A MESS. |
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Post by kenwood on Jul 29, 2022 11:32:47 GMT 1
Looks like the next PM is going to be Liz Truss. Rishi Sunak is on a sticky wicket as he can't offer much to help member's finances in the cost of living crisis as he has already had every chance to do so as Chancellor. Things really look bleak, such a shame that Penny Mordaunt or Nadim Zahawi didn't get through to offer something different. Badenoch would've been true change, I think she'd have wiped the floor with either of them. Labour have had a decade, they should be like a well oil machine, 1/12 on and ready to govern, that couldn't be further from the truth. WHAT A MESS. I agree with your comment about Badenoch , certainly when compared with the other two . Not so regarding your comment about Labour . Corbyn and McDonnell did for Labour in its heartlands , they couldn’t be trusted . This is apart from the internal battle within Labour and not just within the Parliamentary party . It seems as if Starmer hasn’t quite grasped the reason why the Labour Party came into existence which surprisingly doesn’t help . Years wasted allowing the likes of May and Johnson to do their worst . Still, that’s politics . Let’s see how Truss manages the Country’s fortunes. I fear the worst I really do but I do struggle to identify a strong leader from within the Labour Party when the time comes 😉😳 |
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Post by davycrockett on Jul 29, 2022 11:50:43 GMT 1
Where would they start?
Energy Crisis
NHS Crisis linked Domiciliary car crisis
Global Warming Crisis
Ukraine War Crisis
Irish Protocol Crisis
Immigration Crisis
Inflation Crisis
Employment unrest Crisis
Still awaiting food and fuel availability crisis even rationing and perhaps the civil unrest crisis, who’d want to be PM?
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Post by staffordshrew on Jul 29, 2022 12:21:09 GMT 1
Where would they start? Energy Crisis NHS Crisis linked Domiciliary car crisis Global Warming Crisis Ukraine War Crisis Irish Protocol Crisis Immigration Crisis Inflation Crisis Employment unrest Crisis Still awaiting food and fuel availability crisis even rationing and perhaps the civil unrest crisis, who’d want to be PM? Then there is fairly low pay for such a high profile job. All that, I suppose, explains why we get the ones we do? |
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Post by Worthingshrew on Jul 29, 2022 14:29:10 GMT 1
Badenoch would've been true change, I think she'd have wiped the floor with either of them. Labour have had a decade, they should be like a well oil machine, 1/12 on and ready to govern, that couldn't be further from the truth. WHAT A MESS. I agree with your comment about Badenoch , certainly when compared with the other two . Not so regarding your comment about Labour . Corbyn and McDonnell did for Labour in its heartlands , they couldn’t be trusted . This is apart from the internal battle within Labour and not just within the Parliamentary party . It seems as if Starmer hasn’t quite grasped the reason why the Labour Party came into existence which surprisingly doesn’t help . Years wasted allowing the likes of May and Johnson to do their worst . Still, that’s politics . Let’s see how Truss manages the Country’s fortunes. I fear the worst I really do but I do struggle to identify a strong leader from within the Labour Party when the time comes 😉😳 Heard Starmer the other day on radio, and he had little to offer except criticism of Govt. Had a think, if Labour had a leadership contest, how many potential leaders I could name or identify- was only 5 or 6. There really is a lack of talent in politics at the moment. |
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Post by zenfootball2 on Jul 29, 2022 15:24:11 GMT 1
Looks like the next PM is going to be Liz Truss. Rishi Sunak is on a sticky wicket as he can't offer much to help member's finances in the cost of living crisis as he has already had every chance to do so as Chancellor. Things really look bleak, such a shame that Penny Mordaunt or Nadim Zahawi didn't get through to offer something different. Badenoch would've been true change, I think she'd have wiped the floor with either of them. Labour have had a decade, they should be like a well oil machine, 1/12 on and ready to govern, that couldn't be further from the truth. WHAT A MESS. even though i dont vote for them Badenoch seems sensible , recall a debate she had and she was polite answered every question and just was at a different level . |
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