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Post by staffordshrew on Jul 23, 2022 11:57:20 GMT 1
French customs officials are based at Dover in the outbound lanes inbound at Calais. UK are outbound at Calais inbound Dover. This has been the procedure since the UK left the EU in 2020. i see now the dover boss is now blaming brexit ,feel sorry the poor holidaymakers and lorry drivers Perhaps fairer to say I feel sorry for the poor holiday makers and lorry drivers held up by the checks, except those who voted for Brexit. |
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Post by northwestman on Jul 23, 2022 12:28:30 GMT 1
Who in their right mind takes a car full of kids to Dover on the very 1st week of the school holidays anyway?
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Post by ssshrew on Jul 23, 2022 14:36:54 GMT 1
Lots of people apparently!
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Post by Worthingshrew on Jul 23, 2022 17:14:38 GMT 1
The PM race seems to be a depressing race to see who can be more right-wing, as this appeals to grass roots Tory members.
Who’ll be the first to mention bringing back capital punishment?
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Post by martinshrew on Jul 23, 2022 19:41:21 GMT 1
The PM race seems to be a depressing race to see who can be more right-wing, as this appeals to grass roots Tory members. Who’ll be the first to mention bringing back capital punishment? Utter nonsense, have a day. |
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Post by northwestman on Jul 23, 2022 19:49:40 GMT 1
I'll lay any odds you like that neither candidate will find any minuscule fault whatsoever with Brexit!
Brexit is a religion to the Membership.
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Post by kenwood on Jul 23, 2022 23:09:43 GMT 1
I'll lay any odds you like that neither candidate will find any minuscule fault whatsoever with Brexit! Brexit is a religion to the Membership. Yes indeed , Truss was a late convert . She’s quite a cunning women is our Liz, she sees which way the winds blowing and changes tack It’s got her a long way in the Tory party without a doubt . It’ll be her downfall if she makes PM as she will be making the big decisions . It will be up to her and that causes alarm because she is totally incompetent. Oh well , such is life . |
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Post by Pilch on Jul 23, 2022 23:50:05 GMT 1
I'll lay any odds you like that neither candidate will find any minuscule fault whatsoever with Brexit! Brexit is a religion to the Membership. and so they shouldn't, it was the decision of us the people not the gov, it was a binary decision, in or out, we voted out, I think its working too, we actually have jobs available, when I took redundancy 11/12 years ago I just wanted a year off , basically as I was financially better off doing so, but then realised there wasn't much work about, not a lot at all, and now there is, no longer are people being held to random in a job and can't afford to quit, now then can quit and find another job pretty quick |
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jul 24, 2022 8:37:00 GMT 1
French customs officials are based at Dover in the outbound lanes inbound at Calais. UK are outbound at Calais inbound Dover. This has been the procedure since the UK left the EU in 2020. i see now the dover boss is now blaming brexit ,feel sorry the poor holidaymakers and lorry drivers A do I, looks awful down there and I wouldn't want to be stuck in that with the kids.  When you say Dover boss though, who do you mean? As the the chief executive of the Port stated this... "Whilst Brexit has impacted the transaction times at the border, yesterday’s events weren’t caused by Brexit.” Although he may have said something more in the meantime of course. From what you read I gather Brexit means the checks take longer so to negate (to some degree at least) the impact of that they increased the capacity (from 6 lanes to 12) but at some point only the 6 lanes were staffed and open and hence the backlog. Seems they are fully staffed now so hopefully things will start moving again. And hopefully it will remain fully staffed throughout the summer. |
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Post by Chief Inspector Swan on Jul 24, 2022 8:47:47 GMT 1
i see now the dover boss is now blaming brexit ,feel sorry the poor holidaymakers and lorry drivers When you say Dover boss though, who do you mean? The current Dover boss is Andy Hessenthaler, who has a brief for the forthcoming season of securing as high as possible a finish in the National League South. That is who Zenfootball was referring to. |
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Post by Pilch on Jul 24, 2022 9:11:43 GMT 1
i see now the dover boss is now blaming brexit ,feel sorry the poor holidaymakers and lorry drivers A do I, looks awful down there and I wouldn't want to be stuck in that with the kids. When you say Dover boss though, who do you mean? As the the chief executive of the Port stated this... "Whilst Brexit has impacted the transaction times at the border, yesterday’s events weren’t caused by Brexit.” Although he may have said something more in the meantime of course. From what you read I gather Brexit means the checks take longer so to negate (to some degree at least) the impact of that they increased the capacity (from 6 lanes to 12) but at some point only the 6 lanes were staffed and open and hence the backlog. Seems they are fully staffed now so hopefully things will start moving again. And hopefully it will remain fully staffed throughout the summer. No boris to moan at No PM debates to debate yet no clear contender to pick on yet I know, drag brexit back up  I mean, **** me if anyone has seen the queues at Shelton road, Welshpool road area this week, or the sudden unannounced, unsigned closure of Roman Road last week they wouldn't be on here moaning at something that doesn't even bother them  |
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Post by frankwellshrews on Jul 24, 2022 9:32:24 GMT 1
I'll lay any odds you like that neither candidate will find any minuscule fault whatsoever with Brexit! Brexit is a religion to the Membership. and so they shouldn't, it was the decision of us the people not the gov, it was a binary decision, in or out, we voted out, I think its working too, we actually have jobs available, when I took redundancy 11/12 years ago I just wanted a year off , basically as I was financially better off doing so, but then realised there wasn't much work about, not a lot at all, and now there is, no longer are people being held to random in a job and can't afford to quit, now then can quit and find another job pretty quick Interesting- can you think of anything that happened just a bit prior to 11/12 years ago that might have impacted the amount of work available at that point? Almost like there was some sort of "financial crisis" around that time..... |
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Post by davycrockett on Jul 24, 2022 9:41:11 GMT 1
and so they shouldn't, it was the decision of us the people not the gov, it was a binary decision, in or out, we voted out, I think its working too, we actually have jobs available, when I took redundancy 11/12 years ago I just wanted a year off , basically as I was financially better off doing so, but then realised there wasn't much work about, not a lot at all, and now there is, no longer are people being held to random in a job and can't afford to quit, now then can quit and find another job pretty quick Interesting- can you think of anything that happened just a bit prior to 11/12 years ago that might have impacted the amount of work available at that point? Almost like there was some sort of "financial crisis" around that time..... Ah but now we’ve got rid of those bloody foreigners there’s plenty of work 👍 |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2022 9:41:42 GMT 1
they wouldn't be on here moaning at something that doesn't even bother them Who’s moaning on this thread? Genuine question 👍 Had the same with the hot weather thread this week when one of the dim right wingers was suggesting everyone was panicking, when in fact, no one was panicking at all. |
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Post by northwestman on Jul 24, 2022 9:43:06 GMT 1
A do I, looks awful down there and I wouldn't want to be stuck in that with the kids. When you say Dover boss though, who do you mean? As the the chief executive of the Port stated this... "Whilst Brexit has impacted the transaction times at the border, yesterday’s events weren’t caused by Brexit.” Although he may have said something more in the meantime of course. From what you read I gather Brexit means the checks take longer so to negate (to some degree at least) the impact of that they increased the capacity (from 6 lanes to 12) but at some point only the 6 lanes were staffed and open and hence the backlog. Seems they are fully staffed now so hopefully things will start moving again. And hopefully it will remain fully staffed throughout the summer. No boris to moan at No PM debates to debate yet no clear contender to pick on yet I know, drag brexit back up I mean, **** me if anyone has seen the queues at Shelton road, Welshpool road area this week, or the sudden unannounced, unsigned closure of Roman Road last week they wouldn't be on here moaning at something that doesn't even bother them Same here. They've closed the main Ellesmere to Whittington road all week as from tomorrow so that Kier can do a patchwork job with their new machine which I'm sure will look dreadful and probably won't last the winter in some places. The only decent road surfacing round here has been at Whittington itself, where the local councillor is in charge of the roads in Shropshire. Co-incidental I'm sure. |
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Post by northwestman on Jul 24, 2022 9:49:50 GMT 1
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Post by staffordshrew on Jul 24, 2022 9:54:17 GMT 1
A do I, looks awful down there and I wouldn't want to be stuck in that with the kids. When you say Dover boss though, who do you mean? As the the chief executive of the Port stated this... "Whilst Brexit has impacted the transaction times at the border, yesterday’s events weren’t caused by Brexit.” Although he may have said something more in the meantime of course. From what you read I gather Brexit means the checks take longer so to negate (to some degree at least) the impact of that they increased the capacity (from 6 lanes to 12) but at some point only the 6 lanes were staffed and open and hence the backlog. Seems they are fully staffed now so hopefully things will start moving again. And hopefully it will remain fully staffed throughout the summer. No boris to moan at No PM debates to debate yet no clear contender to pick on yet I know, drag brexit back up I mean, **** me if anyone has seen the queues at Shelton road, Welshpool road area this week, or the sudden unannounced, unsigned closure of Roman Road last week they wouldn't be on here moaning at something that doesn't even bother them You need to say that to Liz Truss. Since it was her that brought up Brexit again when she announced that, if ever PM, she would have a 'red tape bonfire' of EU law. The same day that she was promoting that we saw for ourselves at Dover the effect of EU laws - laws that she would have no control over. |
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Post by staffordshrew on Jul 24, 2022 10:00:35 GMT 1
No boris to moan at No PM debates to debate yet no clear contender to pick on yet I know, drag brexit back up I mean, **** me if anyone has seen the queues at Shelton road, Welshpool road area this week, or the sudden unannounced, unsigned closure of Roman Road last week they wouldn't be on here moaning at something that doesn't even bother them Same here. They've closed the main Ellesmere to Whittington road all week as from tomorrow so that Kier can do a patchwork job with their new machine which I'm sure will look dreadful and probably won't last the winter in some places. The only decent road surfacing round here has been at Whittington itself, where the local councillor is in charge of the roads in Shropshire. Co-incidental I'm sure. I see you have put Kier into the thread to maintain a balanced political view  |
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Post by frankwellshrews on Jul 24, 2022 10:00:50 GMT 1
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Post by northwestman on Jul 24, 2022 10:25:02 GMT 1
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Post by staffordshrew on Jul 24, 2022 11:08:36 GMT 1
Sunak and Truss:
One takes away more of or money in taxes, the other wants to immediately give us back a little of our money; why couldn't we have had a, perhaps more Conservative, approach of hands off, steady as you go, on taxes?
One reacts, eventually, to events, the other says she will wade straight in, burning EU laws, until she realises if you want to visit, work with. sell to, or buy from the EU, you will have to stick to their rules.
One has some ideas about NHS improvements, but, as a very rich man, does he have any idea of how the NHS works?
A gruesome twosome, goodness knows what the wider electorate will make of the eventual winner the Conservative membership present us with.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2022 11:40:39 GMT 1
Heaven, what would we do without the Daily Mail?  Fortunately I don't read it so will make up my own mind as to which of the two candidates I shall vote for. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2022 11:43:34 GMT 1
So glad we can trust the conservatives with the economy. Well, it will be Labour's turn next, let's see how well they do. |
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Post by staffordshrew on Jul 24, 2022 11:45:29 GMT 1
Heaven, what would we do without the Daily Mail? Fortunately I don't read it so will make up my own mind as to which of the two candidates I shall vote for. Good luck with that, not much of a choice is it? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2022 11:48:54 GMT 1
Heaven, what would we do without the Daily Mail? Fortunately I don't read it so will make up my own mind as to which of the two candidates I shall vote for. Good luck with that, not much of a choice is it? No it's not, sadly. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2022 13:07:04 GMT 1
You need to say that to Liz Truss. Since it was her that brought up Brexit again when she announced that, if ever PM, she would have a 'red tape bonfire' of EU law. A bonfire of EU law? What are you on about? We’ve left the EU for goodness sake! Boris got brexit done, how could we possibly still have EU laws??!👍 |
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Post by zenfootball2 on Jul 24, 2022 13:16:44 GMT 1
i see now the dover boss is now blaming brexit ,feel sorry the poor holidaymakers and lorry drivers A do I, looks awful down there and I wouldn't want to be stuck in that with the kids. When you say Dover boss though, who do you mean? As the the chief executive of the Port stated this... "Whilst Brexit has impacted the transaction times at the border, yesterday’s events weren’t caused by Brexit.” Although he may have said something more in the meantime of course. From what you read I gather Brexit means the checks take longer so to negate (to some degree at least) the impact of that they increased the capacity (from 6 lanes to 12) but at some point only the 6 lanes were staffed and open and hence the backlog. Seems they are fully staffed now so hopefully things will start moving again. And hopefully it will remain fully staffed throughout the summer. take your pick everyone is blaming each other , but there will be further chaos when the biometric testing comes in. the port will blame hte goverment for failling to provide the necessary funds to upgrade the port but the port has had 6 years to get ready for this. www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jul/23/dover-travel-delays-who-is-to-blame" doug Bannister, CEO of the Port of Dover, blamed border control officials, Police aux Frontières, for failing to provide sufficient numbers to staff the passport booths." "Pierre-Henri Dumont, the Calais MP, said delays were caused by Brexit and the requirement to stamp every passport. He said yesterday it was “fake news” to blame the French authorities. He also said Dover struggled to cope at peak demand." "Bosses at Dover bid for £33m after Brexit for more money to upgrade the port, including new passport control booths, but only received £33,000 in December 2020 bid allocations. Kent Council is concerned that the port struggles to cope at peak demand and can easily “fall over”. It is hoping to source new funds to upgrade the port." " despite failing to secure the investment required, Dover carefully prepared for the summer holiday  . It recently installed additional temporary passport booths and reviewed operations to ensure that traffic flows as smoothly as possible." Disruption at the port may get worse when new biometric checks are brought in as part of the new European Union entry/exit system (EES) for third party requirements. These may require people to leave their vehicles for biometric checks similar to those in place at airports. MPs warned the new checks at Dover could cause “confusion, disruption and delay”. The checks were due to have been implemented this year, but have already been delayed. UK immigration officials and Dover port managers accept that Brexit is a factor because of the additional checks required. As one immigration official observed this weekend, it was the weekend that Brexit “chose to bite”. www.lbc.co.uk/opinion/dover-port-boss-brexit-delays-travel-chaos/"Port of Dover boss Doug Bannister has told LBC that it's "absolutely true" that Brexit is ultimately to blame for the extreme delays at the port of Dover because passports require extra checks." |
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Post by frankwellshrews on Jul 24, 2022 13:24:01 GMT 1
So glad we can trust the conservatives with the economy. Well, it will be Labour's turn next, let's see how well they do. Yes, let's. Maybe we can get back to the record high levels of GDP per capita we enjoyed under the last Labour government (you know, back when the UK was actually a wealthy country). |
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Post by staffordshrew on Jul 24, 2022 14:02:17 GMT 1
You need to say that to Liz Truss. Since it was her that brought up Brexit again when she announced that, if ever PM, she would have a 'red tape bonfire' of EU law. A bonfire of EU law? What are you on about? We’ve left the EU for goodness sake! Boris got brexit done, how could we possibly still have EU laws??!👍 No, the man in the fridge hasn't finished yet, there's the NI protocol for a start, even Liz knows better than to say Brexit got done.
If, as many of the Conservative membership are prepared to do, we allow a proven liar back in, then he'll be back. Doubt we will ever Get Brexit Done properly though.
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