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Post by thesensationaljt on Jul 12, 2022 16:16:12 GMT 1
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jul 12, 2022 16:37:26 GMT 1
Just having a quick look at other clubs who have Umbro as a kit supplier and whilst Huddersfield, Hull and Bournemouth know what this seasons kit will look like, it seems you can only pre-order the kit. Which does suggest we're not the only ones having issues and we haven't been put at the back of the queue. For Ipswich you can order the home but only pre-order the away I stand corrected. But it does look as though we're not the only ones sat about waiting...👍 Here are the clubs listed on the Umbro site... Umbro Clubs
Didn't check the all, mind. But I think Burnley might be waiting on something too.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jul 12, 2022 16:40:58 GMT 1
Just having a quick look at other clubs who have Umbro as a kit supplier and whilst Huddersfield, Hull and Bournemouth know what this seasons kit will look like, it seems you can only pre-order the kit. Which does suggest we're not the only ones having issues and we haven't been put at the back of the queue. The big question is why did we ever join the queue? Indeed. Thought Errea were doing a decent job. Although maybe we'd be in the same boat waiting on a new kit. But at least the old one would have been blue and amber.
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Post by South Stand Salopian on Jul 12, 2022 21:30:15 GMT 1
Disgraceful if this turns out true. Probably won’t get it if so, only hoping to get get it for my Birthday the day before I head to Morecambe. Come on Brian buck your ideas up.
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Post by martinshrew on Jul 12, 2022 21:32:50 GMT 1
When it was "all in hand" in April, it wasn't.
Another lie.
Heaven forbid if Brian's a Tory, they'll be 110 pages asking for his resignation immediately.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jul 12, 2022 21:40:55 GMT 1
Not entirely sure what we are expecting BC to do, I don't see this as being on him. If the manager asked for the change then I think BC and the club will go out of their way to keep him happy. And the troubles that Umbro are facing aren't on BC. For some reason the manager wanted to change the kit supplier and here we are. Doubt there is anything BC can do about it...
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Post by martinshrew on Jul 12, 2022 21:42:17 GMT 1
Not entirely sure what we are expecting BC to do, I don't see this as being on him. If the manager asked for the change then I think BC and the club will go out of their way to keep him happy. And the troubles that Umbro are facing aren't on BC. For some reason the manager wanted to change the kit supplier and here we are. Doubt there is anything BC can do about it... I think it was more the fact BC said 3 months ago it was all in hand etc. It clearly wasn't.
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Post by Stowmarket Shrew on Jul 12, 2022 21:56:53 GMT 1
Ok, so there's supply issues or whatever else is causing this, some of which, despite the lead in time, appears to be outside of the club's control, but why the hell do we still not at least know what it looks like and are able to preorder it!? Surely the club will have a sample shirt so at least we can see it!!! Bonkers.
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Post by Exkeeper on Jul 12, 2022 21:58:42 GMT 1
Not entirely sure what we are expecting BC to do, I don't see this as being on him. If the manager asked for the change then I think BC and the club will go out of their way to keep him happy. And the troubles that Umbro are facing aren't on BC. For some reason the manager wanted to change the kit supplier and here we are. Doubt there is anything BC can do about it... I think it was more the fact BC said 3 months ago it was all in hand etc. It clearly wasn't. He was only passing on what Umbro had told him.
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Post by Pilch on Jul 12, 2022 22:43:20 GMT 1
Not entirely sure what we are expecting BC to do, I don't see this as being on him. If the manager asked for the change then I think BC and the club will go out of their way to keep him happy. And the troubles that Umbro are facing aren't on BC. For some reason the manager wanted to change the kit supplier and here we are. Doubt there is anything BC can do about it... how about this time last season when he announced it was too late to produce a bespoke kit, he might have arranged for Umbro to knock one up anyway 12 months in advance so we could release it not just in time for the new season but on the final day of last season one red flag after another last couple of season
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Post by Pilch on Jul 12, 2022 22:44:46 GMT 1
I think it was more the fact BC said 3 months ago it was all in hand etc. It clearly wasn't. He was only passing on what Umbro had told him. bit like Boris then ?
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jul 13, 2022 6:19:53 GMT 1
Not entirely sure what we are expecting BC to do, I don't see this as being on him. If the manager asked for the change then I think BC and the club will go out of their way to keep him happy. And the troubles that Umbro are facing aren't on BC. For some reason the manager wanted to change the kit supplier and here we are. Doubt there is anything BC can do about it... I think it was more the fact BC said 3 months ago it was all in hand etc. It clearly wasn't. In what way? I mean its just a case of waiting now isn't it and that's on Umbro. Nothing BC can do.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jul 13, 2022 6:21:31 GMT 1
Not entirely sure what we are expecting BC to do, I don't see this as being on him. If the manager asked for the change then I think BC and the club will go out of their way to keep him happy. And the troubles that Umbro are facing aren't on BC. For some reason the manager wanted to change the kit supplier and here we are. Doubt there is anything BC can do about it... how about this time last season when he announced it was too late to produce a bespoke kit, he might have arranged for Umbro to knock one up anyway 12 months in advance so we could release it not just in time for the new season but on the final day of last season I thought that is what they did do. Just that its late (even with the 12 months advance).
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Post by martinshrew on Jul 13, 2022 6:50:30 GMT 1
I think it was more the fact BC said 3 months ago it was all in hand etc. It clearly wasn't. In what way? I mean its just a case of waiting now isn't it and that's on Umbro. Nothing BC can do. I'd be insistent on any future supplier having kit to us by 30th June latest and inserting some kind of financial penalty should it not. In time for pre-season touring, games, open day, summer holidays.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jul 13, 2022 7:02:33 GMT 1
In what way? I mean its just a case of waiting now isn't it and that's on Umbro. Nothing BC can do. I'd be insistent on any future supplier having kit to us by 30th June latest and inserting some kind of financial penalty should it not. In time for pre-season touring, games, open day, summer holidays. Then you might find yourself without a kit supplier. So what then? As who is to say any kit supplier would agree to that considering unforeseen circumstances may result in production or delivery being delayed.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2022 7:55:07 GMT 1
For Ipswich you can order the home but only pre-order the away I stand corrected. But it does look as though we're not the only ones sat about waiting...👍 Here are the clubs listed on the Umbro site... Umbro Clubs
Didn't check the all, mind. But I think Burnley might be waiting on something too. True but I believe the other clubs have at least unveiled their kits and have them available for the first team to wear. I'd argue that it's amaterish that 2 weeks before the season starts we don't have a kit to sell to fans but it appears we aren't unique in that, however to not even have the kit available for the first team for friendlies is a shambles. Whether that's down to Umbro or us I dont know and like many things, we will never know and just be told things will be better next year.....
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Post by davycrockett on Jul 13, 2022 8:14:03 GMT 1
I think it was more the fact BC said 3 months ago it was all in hand etc. It clearly wasn't. In what way? I mean its just a case of waiting now isn't it and that's on Umbro. Nothing BC can do. When you choose a supplier you negotiate and agree terms, it’s called a contract and penalties for not delivering the contract terms…difficult times with the supply chains but we’re 13 months on. Maybe it will be here in the next week or two with plenty of supplies and an extensive range of Shrewsbury specific leisure wear but it is down to any CEO to agree contracts and manage his customer’s expectations….
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Post by block12massive on Jul 13, 2022 8:46:18 GMT 1
Disgraceful if this turns out true. Probably won’t get it if so, only hoping to get get it for my Birthday the day before I head to Morecambe. Come on Brian buck your ideas up. As reiterated previously, some recompense for this sh*t show would be for the new shirt to have a two-season lifespan.
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Post by secretshrew on Jul 13, 2022 8:49:11 GMT 1
I guess we’re down on marketing and commercial staff that we probably haven’t replaced since laying off staff during covid?
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Post by staffordshrew on Jul 13, 2022 9:09:08 GMT 1
In what way? I mean its just a case of waiting now isn't it and that's on Umbro. Nothing BC can do. I'd be insistent on any future supplier having kit to us by 30th June latest and inserting some kind of financial penalty should it not. In time for pre-season touring, games, open day, summer holidays. I suppose some customers, somewhere around the world do have that sort of stipulation in their contracts? Anyone with such a contract term will now be getting priority.
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Post by davycrockett on Jul 13, 2022 9:09:42 GMT 1
I guess we’re down on marketing and commercial staff that we probably haven’t replaced since laying off staff during covid? There must be a small team that have chosen the supplier, the kit design and agreed the contract. I’d be telling UMBRO a delivery date deadline and if not supplied cancel and go with last years kit. Break the contract and choose a UK based supplier but hey SC wanted UMBRO.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jul 13, 2022 9:24:21 GMT 1
In what way? I mean its just a case of waiting now isn't it and that's on Umbro. Nothing BC can do. When you choose a supplier you negotiate and agree terms, it’s called a contract Get away, really... Anyhow, like I say elsewhere, who is it say any kit supplier will agree to such terms? We're Shrewsbury. I suspect for the most part we are having to approach kit suppliers rather than visa-versa. And more so when we are a club of our size requesting something bespoke. Could well be that this sort of thing is easier said than done.
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Post by secretshrew on Jul 13, 2022 9:24:50 GMT 1
I guess we’re down on marketing and commercial staff that we probably haven’t replaced since laying off staff during covid? There must be a small team that have chosen the supplier, the kit design and agreed the contract. I’d be telling UMBRO a delivery date deadline and if not supplied cancel and go with last years kit. Break the contract and choose a UK based supplier but hey SC wanted UMBRO. True although this experience should be learned from. Surely there is a Shropshire based design & manufacturer team where they could produce small numbers. I’m guessing we don’t sell that many? Feel like we’re missing a trick here to work with a local business especially given this shower.
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Jul 13, 2022 9:28:04 GMT 1
Seen my tweet above a couple of times...
I stand by what was being discussed and as we know the jungle drums are usually not far of.
Was also told that even getting kit for the players has been a challenge. A limited stock is "in the country" but need some "work" - Assume that means printing etc. Two and a bit weeks to get that turned around... I suspect they wont be in a kit for Cardiff... you would hope for the last pre season game.
Its a bit staggering that kit supply issues are now WORSE this season than last season even though we are out of a pandemic...
We are not the only club with no announced kits from Umbro. Luton are in same situation.
IMO. We were making changes to the kit too late (April from the last SP meeting) and since then Umbro have had a nightmare. Hard to shake the feeling we are pretty low on their list of priorities
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jul 13, 2022 9:32:01 GMT 1
I stand corrected. But it does look as though we're not the only ones sat about waiting...👍 Here are the clubs listed on the Umbro site... Umbro Clubs
Didn't check the all, mind. But I think Burnley might be waiting on something too. True but I believe the other clubs have at least unveiled their kits and have them available for the first team to wear. I'd argue that it's amaterish that 2 weeks before the season starts we don't have a kit to sell to fans but it appears we aren't unique in that, however to not even have the kit available for the first team for friendlies is a shambles. Whether that's down to Umbro or us I dont know and like many things, we will never know and just be told things will be better next year..... That's a good point about at least having the team decked out in the new gear...👍 I think our issue comes about from the size of the club and the colours we're after (as they're not off the peg for many). We had it good with Admiral, we had it good with Errea, clearly Umbro didn't have an off the peg kit for us so we're now having to wait for them to put something bespoke together for us. Hence the delay. I think the club made an error in switching but the only thing I would say is that it was at the behest of the manager rather than BC (and it doesn't surprise me the club did so in trying to get everything in place the manager has requested).
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Post by block12massive on Jul 13, 2022 9:32:16 GMT 1
I wonder how quickly MG Sportswear can knock out a kit?
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jul 13, 2022 9:36:40 GMT 1
I wonder how quickly MG Sportswear can knock out a kit? Noooooooo!!! What are SPALL up to these days?
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Post by davycrockett on Jul 13, 2022 9:46:18 GMT 1
When you choose a supplier you negotiate and agree terms, it’s called a contract Get away, really... Anyhow, like I say elsewhere, who is it say any kit supplier will agree to such terms? We're Shrewsbury. I suspect for the most part we are having to approach kit suppliers rather than visa-versa. And more so when we are a club of our size requesting something bespoke. Could well be that this sort of thing is easier said than done. Some will have more success than others depending on negotiating skills. My point was I don’t believe it just “down to UMBRO” …. surely there’s a contract they have to work to? As for a club our size requesting something bespoke, haven’t we done that for 10s of years along with most EFL clubs?
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Post by thesensationaljt on Jul 13, 2022 9:54:56 GMT 1
I wonder how quickly MG Sportswear can knock out a kit? Noooooooo!!! What are SPALL up to these days? I'll bet MG Sportswear will be watching our shirt shenanigans and thinking, "We should be beating the likes of UMBRO".
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Post by Exkeeper on Jul 13, 2022 10:28:23 GMT 1
No matter what the issues, we, as potential customers surely deserve an update, even if it is giving news we will be disappointed with. If no shirts are forthcoming in the immediate future, they could at least release the design.
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