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Post by Pilch on May 29, 2022 10:19:50 GMT 1
Madrid players must be waking up this morning thinking that last night was a dream, a dream that they won a game after being battered for 90 minutes , and but for their Keeper playing the game of his life, would have been on the end of a serious tonking. Last night was the most one sided Final I think I have ever watched. you didn't watch villa v Munich then ? or maybe Man U v Munich ?
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Post by staffordshrew on May 29, 2022 10:20:42 GMT 1
It wasn't a good day for Wrexham was it? Whichever "home" team you support it ended in misery.
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Post by cabanas2017 on May 29, 2022 10:22:39 GMT 1
Madrid players must be waking up this morning thinking that last night was a dream, a dream that they won a game after being battered for 90 minutes , and but for their Keeper playing the game of his life, would have been on the end of a serious tonking. Last night was the most one sided Final I think I have ever watched. First half maybe but not the second half. Typical Ancellotti tactics to play defensive, they did exactly the same to Man City
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Post by Pilch on May 29, 2022 10:27:25 GMT 1
It wasn't a good day for Wrexham was it? Whichever "home" team you support it ended in misery. Q does anyone know where you can find a wrexham Liverpool half and half scarf ? A, yes that's right
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Post by electrum on May 29, 2022 10:28:42 GMT 1
The fact that the Liverpool player didn’t intentionally play it to Benzema, shouldn’t mean he’s offside, in my opinion. The lawmakers, seem to be determined to find ways to disallow goals. I ask again, when would Fabinho ever intentionally play it to Benzema? It's hardly deflected, it's hit Konate, then Fabinho has played it. He'd wouldn't, but he may have intentionally passed back to the keeper or another defender, and had that been the case and Benzema intercepted the pass and scored, he wouldn't have been offside and the goal would have stood. I'm not saying that the Law is right or wrong in this situation, just that the referee (and VAR) applied the law correctly last night.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on May 29, 2022 10:34:56 GMT 1
You taking the p**s? In what universe would Fabinho intentionally play it to Benzema? It hit two Liverpool players, how on earth anyone thinks that isn't a goal is mad! I didn’t make the rules, nor do I think they needed changing but changed they were and that has led to decisions, mainly at the highest level that have baffled us over the season. Football is a simple game so why keep tinkering. It's one thing that really does p**s me off about the modern game, the way the rules are constantly being changed. As you say a simple game, leave it alone.
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Post by Pilch on May 29, 2022 10:55:52 GMT 1
the moment 2 chaps out for a stroll in Paris unintentionally got caught up in a game of football and accidentally played the ball
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2022 11:01:42 GMT 1
their fans have no respect for their own club or safety of their own fans It always makes me laugh when people can generalise an entire fanbase of thousands/millions. Of course there will be some dickhead Liverpool fans who are as you describe but they will be in the minority, however your hatred of all things Liverpool will mean you don't accept that. We complained because some Liverpool fans condemned our entire fanbase because of 20 fans , you are doing exactly the same as them.
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Post by Pilch on May 29, 2022 11:04:02 GMT 1
their fans have no respect for their own club or safety of their own fans It always makes me laugh when people can generalise an entire fanbase of thousands/millions. Of course there will be some dickhead Liverpool fans who are as you describe but they will be in the minority, however your hatred of all things Liverpool will mean you don't accept that. We complained because some Liverpool fans condemned our entire fanbase because of 20 fans , you are doing exactly the same as them. 20 ? I see what you did there
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Post by Exkeeper on May 29, 2022 11:22:59 GMT 1
I hope STFC get things moving soon and we can get a couple of quiet weeks without the constant dislike of Cotterill and Liverpool appearing on here. I admit to disliking a certain mediocre Premiership side but won’t drag them into an argument, but I always try to back whoever is managing our team.
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Post by staffordshrew on May 29, 2022 11:38:54 GMT 1
I hope STFC get things moving soon and we can get a couple of quiet weeks without the constant dislike of Cotterill and Liverpool appearing on here. I admit to disliking a certain mediocre Premiership side but won’t drag them into an argument, but I always try to back whoever is managing our team. Liverpool, like a lot of Premier League clubs, don't make it easy to like them.
Criticise Cotterill as much as anyone wishes, everyone makes mistakes and he's not immune. But, please, not by reference to previous managers who were not exactly legends.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2022 11:46:59 GMT 1
There must be a big question mark about Paris hosting a major European final anytime soon after last night's events.
As more eye witness accounts come to light, the authorities didn't exactly cover themselves in glory.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2022 11:50:29 GMT 1
It always makes me laugh when people can generalise an entire fanbase of thousands/millions. Of course there will be some dickhead Liverpool fans who are as you describe but they will be in the minority, however your hatred of all things Liverpool will mean you don't accept that. We complained because some Liverpool fans condemned our entire fanbase because of 20 fans , you are doing exactly the same as them. 20 ? I see what you did there You'll have to explain it to me then because I have no idea what you are on about
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on May 29, 2022 11:56:57 GMT 1
There must be a big question mark about Paris hosting a major European final anytime soon after last night's events. As more eye witness accounts come to light, the authorities didn't exactly cover themselves in glory. Really interesting reading first hand accounts even from the media, VIPs and players friends and families, all who got caught up in it. Seems like absolutely disgusting and unwarranted treatment.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2022 12:02:14 GMT 1
An interesting thread from a Mail Reporter
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Post by staffordshrew on May 29, 2022 12:16:59 GMT 1
An interesting thread from a Mail Reporter Yes, that definately raises big questions about Paris hosting top Euro football.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on May 29, 2022 12:21:33 GMT 1
I dare say that the events from the England fans in the Euros final, as well as the recent spate of pitch invasions with incidents in this country might have played a part in the brutality.
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Post by belfastshrew on May 29, 2022 12:26:46 GMT 1
There must be a big question mark about Paris hosting a major European final anytime soon after last night's events. As more eye witness accounts come to light, the authorities didn't exactly cover themselves in glory. My opinion: it should never have been held in France. They have had two seasons of major crowd troubles in their domestic league and have had a spate of terrorist attacks across the country in recent years. The police will be on high-alert and will be heavy-handed as a result. Shouldn't have been held there...
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on May 29, 2022 12:26:51 GMT 1
I dare say that the events from the England fans in the Euros final, as well as the recent spate of pitch invasions with incidents in this country might have played a part in the brutality. Did the same thing happen in Spain to the Rangers fans? Not that I'm aware of.
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Post by Valerioch on May 29, 2022 12:32:06 GMT 1
I dare say that the events from the England fans in the Euros final, as well as the recent spate of pitch invasions with incidents in this country might have played a part in the brutality. Did the same thing happen in Spain to the Rangers fans? Not that I'm aware of. “Over zealous policing, lack of food, no water, people collapsing” “Relations of players caught up in 4 police checkpoints” “Kids being crushed” theathletic.com/3325038/2022/05/23/rangers-fans-seville-europa-league/
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Post by gainsparkshrew on May 29, 2022 13:01:11 GMT 1
Interesting that those posting anti Liverpool comments further up this thread have now gone very quiet.
Disgraceful french policing and the attitude of UEFA trying to whitewash the whole event.
I'm not a LFC fan but Liverpool is were I was born and where several generations of my family are from, strangely none where football fans as they where more interested in making money in the family timber importing business.
Some comments on this board in recent weeks re "scousers" have been absolutely disgraceful and insulting.Perhaps we should stick to discussing our one common love and passion, namely Shrewsbury Town
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Post by staffordshrew on May 29, 2022 13:05:40 GMT 1
I wonder why, in this digital age, there is not an option for law abidding fans to have their tickicts checked before they travel out, so that they don't travel out unknowing that their ticket might not be valid?
Also, our police forces used to liaise with other forces to identify trouble and potential troublemakers and work together to ensure fan's safety and security - that seems to be somewhat lacking in both Seville and Paris?
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Post by Valerioch on May 29, 2022 13:08:34 GMT 1
I wonder why, in this digital age, there is not an option for law abidding fans to have their tickicts checked before they travel out, so that they don't travel out unknowing that their ticket might not be valid? Also, our police forces used to liase with other forces to identify trouble and potential troublemakers and work together to ensure fan's safety and security - that seems to be somewhat lacking in both Seville and Paris? Merseyside police had a presence in Paris apparently, as they do at all European away games apparently
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Post by staffordshrew on May 29, 2022 13:17:16 GMT 1
I wonder why, in this digital age, there is not an option for law abidding fans to have their tickicts checked before they travel out, so that they don't travel out unknowing that their ticket might not be valid? Also, our police forces used to liase with other forces to identify trouble and potential troublemakers and work together to ensure fan's safety and security - that seems to be somewhat lacking in both Seville and Paris? Merseyside police had a presence in Paris apparently, as they do at all European away games apparently I know they would have had a presence, but the french police seem to have gone off on their own.
"LFC Matchday Police Officers wrote on Twitter: “MERPOL was deployed to this evenings match. Can only describe it as the (worst) I've ever worked or experienced. I thought the behaviour of the fans at the turnstiles was exemplary in shocking circumstances. You were not late 100%". In addition: Why as a law abidding Liverpool fan from any part of the country (they are by no means all "scousers") can't they have the validity of their ticket checked before the journey?
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Post by Valerioch on May 29, 2022 13:31:58 GMT 1
Merseyside police had a presence in Paris apparently, as they do at all European away games apparently I know they would have had a presence, but the french police seem to have gone off on their own.
"LFC Matchday Police Officers wrote on Twitter: “MERPOL was deployed to this evenings match. Can only describe it as the (worst) I've ever worked or experienced. I thought the behaviour of the fans at the turnstiles was exemplary in shocking circumstances. You were not late 100%". In addition: Why as a law abidding Liverpool fan from any part of the country (they are by no means all "scousers") can't they have the validity of their ticket checked before the journey?
Well that’s another question for UEFA isn’t it. They organise the event, it’s their tickets, why can’t they implement pre departure checks? We’ll see more and more of this as they continue to erode allocations for real fans and price them out, whilst lapping it up to celebrities and pricks like Sadiq Khan. UEFA are an odious and corrupt corporation
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on May 29, 2022 13:42:34 GMT 1
All I heard was that the police had praised Rangers fans who were in the city (10 times the numbers who were actually in the stadium) and that there were no arrests.
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Post by Pilch on May 29, 2022 13:42:58 GMT 1
Interesting that those posting anti Liverpool comments further up this thread have now gone very quiet. Disgraceful french policing and the attitude of UEFA trying to whitewash the whole event. I'm not a LFC fan but Liverpool is were I was born and where several generations of my family are from, strangely none where football fans as they where more interested in making money in the family timber importing business. Some comments on this board in recent weeks re "scousers" have been absolutely disgraceful and insulting.Perhaps we should stick to discussing our one common love and passion, namely Shrewsbury Town oh dear , i'm now at my daughters after being shopping at tescos , this thread was about the euro final when i left , the sulky scousers have since hikacked the thread and brought cotterill and town into it , like i have always said if the scousers don't like a thread they will wreck it have a REAL nice day 😜
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on May 29, 2022 13:43:28 GMT 1
Andy Robertson said after the match that tickets he’d sorted his friends via the football club were refused as fake, so clearly they were completely clueless.
There probably is maybe a few percentage of people who deliberately buy a fake and try and get in, but that’s no excuse for indiscriminately pepper spraying everyone within view before and after the match. Also lots about the Saint Denis area being a real scummy part of Paris and the locals were out in full menacing form.
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Post by Pilch on May 29, 2022 13:46:48 GMT 1
20 ? I see what you did there You'll have to explain it to me then because I have no idea what you are on about eufa have stated thousands of ticketless fans tried to gain entry and we know how liverpool reacted after the actions of 1 town fan yes that ONE town fan , not for putting lives of people at risk but for singing an awful song double standards or what
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Post by davycrockett on May 29, 2022 13:48:27 GMT 1
There must be a big question mark about Paris hosting a major European final anytime soon after last night's events. As more eye witness accounts come to light, the authorities didn't exactly cover themselves in glory. Just like England Wembley with the Euro finale…. difference is the French were affective in stopping fans trying to gain entry anyway the could. We stood by and let it happen. Its unfortunate but if 60k plus fans arrive without tickets it does put strain on any security measures. I’m sure the vast majority were well behaved but also sure there’d be a large minority trying to gain entry anyway they could.
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