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Post by staffordshrew on Oct 22, 2022 23:43:21 GMT 1
What? He didn't resign like the Chester MP? Do wayward Tory MPs not have any morals? Must make life very difficult for the decent honest Tories - bound to be some. |
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Post by Pilch on Oct 23, 2022 8:02:35 GMT 1
i remember a certain MP telling boris that he should resign for the simple reason he is being investigated by police for breaking covid rules, the same mp when being investigated himself moved the goalposts and got his big legal books out to find loopholes of how to describe how
a blatant 10pm party could be deemed to be classed as a working lunch 😜
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Post by staffordshrew on Oct 23, 2022 9:34:01 GMT 1
i remember a certain MP telling boris that he should resign for the simple reason he is being investigated by police for breaking covid rules, the same mp when being investigated himself moved the goalposts and got his big legal books out to find loopholes of how to describe how a blatant 10pm party could be deemed to be classed as a working lunch 😜? What do they call posters who can never accept the result of intense media and pplice scrutiny? |
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Post by davycrockett on Oct 23, 2022 9:43:29 GMT 1
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Oct 23, 2022 9:43:58 GMT 1
i remember a certain MP telling boris that he should resign for the simple reason he is being investigated by police for breaking covid rules, the same mp when being investigated himself moved the goalposts and got his big legal books out to find loopholes of how to describe how a blatant 10pm party could be deemed to be classed as a working lunch 😜 What? Has Claudia Webbe not resigned yet? What about Rupa Huq? Must make life very difficult for the decent honest Labourites - bound to be some. |
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Post by northwestman on Oct 23, 2022 9:44:21 GMT 1
i remember a certain MP telling boris that he should resign for the simple reason he is being investigated by police for breaking covid rules, the same mp when being investigated himself moved the goalposts and got his big legal books out to find loopholes of how to describe how a blatant 10pm party could be deemed to be classed as a working lunch 😜? What do they call posters who can never accept the result of intense media and pplice scrutiny? Regrettably, the Metropolitan police investigation into Johnson was pitifully inadequate. goodlawproject.org/news/revelations-partygate-investigation/goodlawproject.org/news/the-law-must-apply-fairly-to-all/ |
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Post by northwestman on Oct 23, 2022 10:04:36 GMT 1
i remember a certain MP telling boris that he should resign for the simple reason he is being investigated by police for breaking covid rules, the same mp when being investigated himself moved the goalposts and got his big legal books out to find loopholes of how to describe how a blatant 10pm party could be deemed to be classed as a working lunch 😜 What? Has Claudia Webbe not resigned yet? What about Rupa Huq? Must make life very difficult for the decent honest Labourites - bound to be some. Fair point. Webbe remains in post because of her suspended sentence being replaced by a community sentence on appeal. Had the original sentence been confirmed, she would have been subject to a recall petition. Huq has been suspended, but is not subject to a recall petition. But what about these guys? An unnamed Tory M.P. (not even suspended, though ex Tory M.P. Charlie Elphicke was both named and suspended for similar issues) and David Warburton: www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/may/18/accused-tory-mp-alleged-offences-include-one-relating-person-under-18www.itv.com/news/westcountry/2022-04-03/tory-mp-in-psychiatric-hospital-for-shock-and-stress-amid-misconduct-claims |
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Post by northwestman on Oct 23, 2022 10:18:46 GMT 1
www.somersetcountygazette.co.uk/news/21870748.david-warburton-mp-by-election-campaign-launched/Campaigners are calling for a by-election in Somerset to remove an “ineffective” MP. David Warburton has represented the Somerton and Frome constituency for the Conservative Party since 2015, having achieved the largest constituency swing in England at that year’s general election. Mr Warburton was suspended from the party in April following allegations of sexual harassment and cocaine use (which he strongly denies), and has been receiving treatment at a psychiatric hospital since July. The Times reported in April that Mr Warburton had asked the Financial Conduct Authority to “look more favourably” on Russian financier Roman Joukovski – who had allegedly provided Mr Warburton with an undeclared loan of around £150,000 for a holiday rental property.
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Post by Pilch on Oct 23, 2022 10:23:20 GMT 1
you are missing ( more like ignoring the point ) the day Boris was being investigated by police Starmer demanded he resign, none of your innocent until found guilty stuff, just the fact he's is being investigated by police alone is enough for him to resign none of you accepted the "lets wait until the findings either" what was kiers motto ? its one rule for them , another rule for us you dont need to tell me what boris did, I know , I said it should have been sacked back then too, thats why I didn't vote for him them, and won't vote for next time its also why I won't be voting for the other self righteous hypocrite take your blinkers off, I have |
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Post by northwestman on Oct 23, 2022 10:31:04 GMT 1
If everyone sat on their hands and didn't vote because 'they are all as bad as one another', then they can't complain at whoever they get and the policies that are thrown in their direction.
Personally, I'll be voting for Helen Morgan (Lib Dem) in North Shropshire.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Oct 23, 2022 10:31:54 GMT 1
We're talking about resigning, not being subject of a recall petition.👍 |
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Post by northwestman on Oct 23, 2022 10:38:17 GMT 1
We're talking about resigning, not being subject of a recall petition.👍 Well, shouldn't the unnamed Tory M.P, and Warburton be resigning? Neither are exactly serving their constituents. One is banned from the Parliamentary estate and is defending serious criminal charges, and the other has been in a psychiatric hospital since July. |
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Post by staffordshrew on Oct 23, 2022 10:44:37 GMT 1
you are missing ( more like ignoring the point ) the day Boris was being investigated by police Starmer demanded he resign, none of your innocent until found guilty stuff, just the fact he's is being investigated by police alone is enough for him to resign none of you accepted the "lets wait until the findings either" what was kiers motto ? its one rule for them , another rule for us you dont need to tell me what boris did, I know , I said it should have been sacked back then too, thats why I didn't vote for him them, and won't vote for next time its also why I won't be voting for the other self righteous hypocrite take your blinkers off, I have So you don't think that someone who has been elected to the highest office in the land should uphold the highest moral values?
Someone who might be elected to the highest office in the land would surely have had the same calls to consider their position if they had been PM. The public can decide about that one - The public had already decided, and placed their trust in, the guy who was in charge at the time - The guy who had actually told us all how to behave and then was accused of breaking his own laws  |
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Post by davycrockett on Oct 23, 2022 10:45:44 GMT 1
you are missing ( more like ignoring the point ) the day Boris was being investigated by police Starmer demanded he resign, none of your innocent until found guilty stuff, just the fact he's is being investigated by police alone is enough for him to resign none of you accepted the "lets wait until the findings either" what was kiers motto ? its one rule for them , another rule for us you dont need to tell me what boris did, I know , I said it should have been sacked back then too, thats why I didn't vote for him them, and won't vote for next time its also why I won't be voting for the other self righteous hypocrite take your blinkers off, I have But you make things up then start believing them. I go by what’s actually happening… Boris is a serial liar caught out many times, you’ve tried to distract from that by chirping on about beergate despite the findings…. Who's got the blinkers on? “ what was kiers motto ?its one rule for them , another rule for us”Wheres this from? Your head 😂 |
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Oct 23, 2022 10:49:55 GMT 1
We're talking about resigning, not being subject of a recall petition.👍 Well, shouldn't the unnamed Tory M.P, and Warburton be resigning? Neither are exactly serving their constituents. One is banned from the Parliamentary estate and is defending serious criminal charges, and the other has been in a psychiatric hospital since July. Do wayward Labour MPs not have any morals? |
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Post by davycrockett on Oct 23, 2022 10:54:08 GMT 1
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Post by northwestman on Oct 23, 2022 11:00:47 GMT 1
Well, shouldn't the unnamed Tory M.P, and Warburton be resigning? Neither are exactly serving their constituents. One is banned from the Parliamentary estate and is defending serious criminal charges, and the other has been in a psychiatric hospital since July. Do wayward Labour MPs not have any morals? Webbe and Huq don't I fully agree. They should resign, together with Roberts, Warburton and the unnamed Tory M.P. At least the Labour M.P. for Chester, Chris Matheson, has had the decency to do so. |
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Post by staffordshrew on Oct 23, 2022 11:01:04 GMT 1
What's the point of this tit-for-tat comparing one parties bad apples to another? Get rid of all the bad apples - it's time for cleaner politics. Let the good MPs change the mind of those who think "They are all at". To get back up to date, that's why a number of Conservatives are saying it woukd be a disaster to have Boris back.
Things, like other jobs and sponsorship for MPs, need looking at too. Let's have "cleaner" politicians all round.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Oct 23, 2022 11:05:32 GMT 1
Do wayward Labour MPs not have any morals? Think Northwestmans point was some do And I happen to think that goes for both the Tories and Labour and indeed for any other political party out there too. |
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Oct 23, 2022 11:07:44 GMT 1
What's the point of this tit-for-tat comparing one parties bad apples to another?
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Oct 23, 2022 11:09:10 GMT 1
Do wayward Labour MPs not have any morals? Webbe and Huq don't I fully agree. Indeed. Must make life very difficult for the decent honest Labourites - bound to be some. |
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Post by Pilch on Oct 23, 2022 11:12:09 GMT 1
you are missing ( more like ignoring the point ) the day Boris was being investigated by police Starmer demanded he resign, none of your innocent until found guilty stuff, just the fact he's is being investigated by police alone is enough for him to resign none of you accepted the "lets wait until the findings either" what was kiers motto ? its one rule for them , another rule for us you dont need to tell me what boris did, I know , I said it should have been sacked back then too, thats why I didn't vote for him them, and won't vote for next time its also why I won't be voting for the other self righteous hypocrite take your blinkers off, I have But you make things up then start believing them. I go by what’s actually happening… Boris is a serial liar caught out many times, you’ve tried to distract from that by chirping on about beergate despite the findings…. Who's got the blinkers on? “ what was kiers motto ?its one rule for them , another rule for us”Wheres this from? Your head 😂 it was in my head yes , the memory part here's a bit of info for you to quickly ignore and take no notice of as its about labour and not tories www.facebook.com/KeirStarmerLabour/videos/280821829989010/www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/dec/26/one-rule-for-them-how-a-simple-slogan-helped-change-the-political-landscapefrom the spectator ( behind paywall ) 31 January – Sir Keir Starmer argues that being under investigation alone is grounds for Boris Johnson's resignation. He tweets: 'Honesty and decency matter. After months of denials the Prime Minister is now under criminal investigations for breaking his own lockdown laws. He needs to do the decent thing and resign.' |
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Oct 23, 2022 11:16:43 GMT 1
If everyone sat on their hands and didn't vote because 'they are all as bad as one another', then they can't complain at whoever they get and the policies that are thrown in their direction. Perhaps. But even so, they can certainly point out hypocrisy and double standards when they see it. |
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Post by staffordshrew on Oct 23, 2022 11:18:01 GMT 1
What's the point of this tit-for-tat comparing one parties bad apples to another?
Isn't that exactly the point? All those up to no good need to be rooted out so the decent honest ones shime through and can be and respected, whatever their political beliefs. |
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Post by Pilch on Oct 23, 2022 11:20:50 GMT 1
If everyone sat on their hands and didn't vote because 'they are all as bad as one another', then they can't complain at whoever they get and the policies that are thrown in their direction. Perhaps. But even so, they can certainly point out hypocrisy and double standards when they see it. alternatively they could agree with you and you'd be totally happy and would never challenge them or make snide pathetic comments behind their backs , now who really is the hypocrite here with double standards and a childish grudge they can't let go of ? |
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Post by davycrockett on Oct 23, 2022 11:20:59 GMT 1
Completely different meaning to your quote…. Here he’s simply pointing out that Boris and the Tories follow their own rules unlike the rest of the country. Not us meaning the Labour Party.
if you remember some of the previous rule breaks Boris condoned like Cummings trip to Barnard Castle claimed to be within the rules when ‘us’ everyone else didn’t see it that way.
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Post by Pilch on Oct 23, 2022 11:24:36 GMT 1
Completely different meaning to your quote…. Here he’s simply pointing out that Boris and the Tories follow their own rules unlike the rest of the country. Not us meaning the Labour Party. if you remember some of the previous rule breaks Boris condoned like Cummings trip to Barnard Castle claimed to be within the rules when ‘us’ everyone else didn’t see it that way. just a reminder, we all know the tories broke rules 24/7, its why they are in such a mess now Starmer rightly spoke up and suggested that now the police are involved you should resign or it will be seen as one rule for them and one for everyone else starmer was so right sadly it turned out starmer is "them" and not "us" RED FLAG |
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Post by staffordshrew on Oct 23, 2022 11:25:55 GMT 1
To quote a certain poster, those that make the rules and are then accused of breaking them "make a rod for their own back". |
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Oct 23, 2022 11:27:33 GMT 1
What? He didn't resign like the Chester MP? Do wayward Tory MPs not have any morals? Must make life very difficult for the decent honest Tories - bound to be some.
Isn't that exactly the point? All those up to no good need to be routed out so the decent honest ones shime through and can be and respected, whatever their political beliefs. So when comparing the Chester MP to wayward Tory MP's you weren't looking to compare one parties bad apples to another? I mean looking to those Labour MP's who haven't resigned but ought to have done, it must make life very difficult for the decent honest Labourites, right? And there are bound to be some, right? |
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Post by davycrockett on Oct 23, 2022 11:27:49 GMT 1
Completely different meaning to your quote…. Here he’s simply pointing out that Boris and the Tories follow their own rules unlike the rest of the country. Not us meaning the Labour Party. if you remember some of the previous rule breaks Boris condoned like Cummings trip to Barnard Castle claimed to be within the rules when ‘us’ everyone else didn’t see it that way. just a reminder, we all know the tories broke rules 24/7, its why they are in such a mess now Starmer rightly spoke up and suggested that now the police are involved you should resign or it will be seen as one rule for them and one for everyone else starmer was so right sadly it turned out starmer is "them" and not "us" RED FLAGPeople usually use a white flag 😂 |
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