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Post by zenfootball2 on Oct 19, 2022 10:09:17 GMT 1
what have we done to deserve such poor MP's David Cameron a weak clown who could not stand up to the EU, invaded Lybia which resulted in the mess we have now and a majour route for migrants, then his masterstroke a referendum on leaving the EU. Thersea May weak and bullied by the EU, Boris Jhonson a PM who felt laws did not apply to him and had a goverment with so much sleaze it made the uk look like bannana republic and now liz Truss the most incompetent of the lot who in such period of time caused economic chaos, damaged the uk gilts and has done so many u turns her head must be spinning, she also has managed to appoint Thérèse Coffe a worse and more incompetent health secretary than Jeremy Hunt and i never thought i would be saying that.
sleeze surrounds this party it is tainted with it and that is shame for the genuine hard working MP's who quietly get on with doing there jobs in a dedicated way.
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Post by northwestman on Oct 19, 2022 10:21:54 GMT 1
I keep asking myself as to how an individual such as Truss, whose ability is clearly to be questioned, has not only made a living as a Minister for the last 10 years, but persuaded over 100 of her M.P.s to vote for her, thus preventing the likes of Mordaunt from having the chance to be put before the Membership.
As I've mentioned on other posts, I detect the malevolence of Williamson here.
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Post by northwestman on Oct 19, 2022 13:50:49 GMT 1
www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/oct/19/liz-truss-adviser-jason-stein-suspended-sajid-javidJason Stein, one of Liz Truss’s key advisers, is understood to have been suspended from his job before an investigation into insulting briefings about MPs, including one over the weekend accusing Sajid Javid of being “s**t”. Truss’s press secretary, answering queries after prime minister’s questions, said he could not comment on individual staffing matters but did not deny reports that Stein had been suspended, saying that Truss believed some briefings about parliamentary colleagues were “completely unacceptable”. Stein is understood to be facing an investigation by the Cabinet Office’s propriety and ethics unit. The comments were reported in the Sunday Times when a “No 10 source” rejected the idea that Javid had been considered rather than Jeremy Hunt to replace Kwasi Kwarteng as chancellor. “The prime minister laughed out loud at the suggestion,” the source reportedly said. “She has sat in the cabinet with Javid for 10 years and she knows who is good and who is s**t.”
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Post by frankwellshrews on Oct 19, 2022 20:27:36 GMT 1
Chaotic scenes in parliament at the mo; Tory chief whips allegedly resigned mid vote amid rumours of some MPs being physically dragged through the division lobby.
Now looking fairly likely Truss will be gone imminently (as in, by this time tomorrow).
Also Truss abstained in her own confidence vote.
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Post by northwestman on Oct 21, 2022 11:33:13 GMT 1
www.deeside.com/conduct-panel-recommends-suspending-chester-mp-christian-matheson-for-serious-sexual-misconduct/The Independent Expert Panel (IEP) has today published a report recommending that Labour MP for Chester Chris Matheson MP is suspended from the House of Commons for four weeks for breaching Parliament’s Sexual Misconduct Policy. A suspension of this length triggers the Recall of MPs Act 2015. Following an investigation by an independent investigator, the Parliamentary Commissioner for Standards upheld two allegations of sexual misconduct against Mr Matheson by a former junior member of his staff made under Parliament’s Independent Complaints and Grievance Scheme (ICGS). www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/oct/21/labour-mp-faces-suspension-unwanted-sexual-advances-chris-mathesonThe Labour party is understood to have suspended the whip from Matheson and asked him to stand down as an MP after the Parliamentary Commissioner for Standards upheld two allegations of sexual misconduct against him. A Labour spokesperson said: This is an incredibly serious case. There must be a zero tolerance for sexual harassment and the Labour party has acted immediately following the ICGS (Independent Complaints and Grievance Scheme) findings. We will now select a candidate that the people of Chester can be proud to vote for. He's now resigned, unlike the ex Tory MP Rob Roberts of Delyn, who still remains in post on a technicality as an Independent after also having the whip suspended after being found guilty of sexual misconduct.
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Post by Dancin on Oct 21, 2022 11:51:08 GMT 1
www.deeside.com/conduct-panel-recommends-suspending-chester-mp-christian-matheson-for-serious-sexual-misconduct/The Independent Expert Panel (IEP) has today published a report recommending that Labour MP for Chester Chris Matheson MP is suspended from the House of Commons for four weeks for breaching Parliament’s Sexual Misconduct Policy. A suspension of this length triggers the Recall of MPs Act 2015. Following an investigation by an independent investigator, the Parliamentary Commissioner for Standards upheld two allegations of sexual misconduct against Mr Matheson by a former junior member of his staff made under Parliament’s Independent Complaints and Grievance Scheme (ICGS). www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/oct/21/labour-mp-faces-suspension-unwanted-sexual-advances-chris-mathesonThe Labour party is understood to have suspended the whip from Matheson and asked him to stand down as an MP after the Parliamentary Commissioner for Standards upheld two allegations of sexual misconduct against him. A Labour spokesperson said: This is an incredibly serious case. There must be a zero tolerance for sexual harassment and the Labour party has acted immediately following the ICGS (Independent Complaints and Grievance Scheme) findings. We will now select a candidate that the people of Chester can be proud to vote for. He's now resigned, unlike the ex Tory MP Rob Roberts of Delyn, who still remains in post on a technicality as an Independent after also having the whip suspended after being found guilty of sexual misconduct. |
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Post by Minormorris64 on Oct 21, 2022 12:33:00 GMT 1
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Post by Minormorris64 on Oct 21, 2022 12:34:20 GMT 1
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Post by Pilch on Oct 21, 2022 13:35:05 GMT 1
this is why there are so many tory bashing threads , any posts they don't like the look of they can just hop onto one of the other threads and pretend nothing has happened 😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳
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Post by davycrockett on Oct 21, 2022 13:41:18 GMT 1
this is why there are so many tory bashing threads , any posts they don't like the look of they can just hop onto one of the other threads and pretend nothing has happened 😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳 Labour MP found guilty and resigns, what’s there to debate? It’s would be different if he’d refused to resign and continued in public office. |
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Post by Pilch on Oct 21, 2022 13:48:10 GMT 1
suella braverman resigns , did nothing wrong
what's to debate ? 😝😜😙😗😉
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Post by davycrockett on Oct 21, 2022 14:06:01 GMT 1
suella braverman resigns , did nothing wrong what's to debate ? 😝😜😙😗😉 Seems she did although not serious enough for others to resign. Having said that it did get its own thread I posted twice you posted thirty three times so don’t quite see your point? |
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Post by staffordshrew on Oct 21, 2022 14:19:12 GMT 1
MP does wrong; resigns.
Only debate could be how come Chester had a Labour MP when Stoke went Conservative?
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Post by armchairfan on Oct 21, 2022 15:17:32 GMT 1
MP does wrong; resigns. Only debate could be how come Chester had a Labour MP when Stoke went Conservative? Ahhh - the demographics, dear boy, the demographics..... An interesting question though.... |
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Post by Pilch on Oct 21, 2022 16:34:52 GMT 1
MP does wrong; resigns. Only debate could be how come Chester had a Labour MP when Stoke went Conservative? The name may be the same, but the've gone through going left and back to centre since then. Labour have changed far more than doing a simple name change. Labour have changed you say ? |
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Post by staffordshrew on Oct 21, 2022 16:53:19 GMT 1
MP does wrong; resigns. Only debate could be how come Chester had a Labour MP when Stoke went Conservative? The name may be the same, but the've gone through going left and back to centre since then. Labour have changed far more than doing a simple name change. Labour have changed you say ? I most certainly do say, but people are still people, you get the odd bad one, you get the odd person who can never accept change and lives in the past, when they last voted, too. |
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Post by Pilch on Oct 21, 2022 17:10:20 GMT 1
Labour have changed you say ? I most certainly do say, but people are still people, you get the odd bad one, you get the odd person who can never accept change and lives in the past, when they last voted, too. speak for yourself, I like to keep an open mind and only vote for those deserving of the vote ? I certainly wouldn't vote for someone just because I dont like someone else, I mean wtf is that about ? |
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Post by staffordshrew on Oct 21, 2022 17:23:40 GMT 1
I most certainly do say, but people are still people, you get the odd bad one, you get the odd person who can never accept change and lives in the past, when they last voted, too. speak for yourself, I like to keep an open mind and only vote for those deserving of the vote ? I certainly wouldn't vote for someone just because I dont like someone else, I mean wtf is that about ? Can we count on your voting next time then? Don't care who for, but surely someone will deserve your vote?
Exercise your prerogative, it must be a bit flabby by now... |
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Post by Pilch on Oct 21, 2022 17:32:49 GMT 1
speak for yourself, I like to keep an open mind and only vote for those deserving of the vote ? I certainly wouldn't vote for someone just because I dont like someone else, I mean wtf is that about ? Can we count on your voting next time then? Don't care who for, but surely someone will deserve your vote?
Exercise your prerogative, it must be a bit flabby by now... who's we ? |
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Post by staffordshrew on Oct 21, 2022 17:37:55 GMT 1
Can we count on your voting next time then? Don't care who for, but surely someone will deserve your vote?
Exercise your prerogative, it must be a bit flabby by now... who's we ? All the voters who value the opportunity to vote in free and fair elections in this country and feel all those able should use that right. |
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Post by Pilch on Oct 21, 2022 17:47:34 GMT 1
All the voters who value the opportunity to vote in free and fair elections in this country and feel all those able should use that right. its far too early to say if and who im voting for yet, not even seen the runners and riders yet, or heard their pitches or anything do I sense you've already decided the way you are voting, the word irresponsible springs to mind ;-) |
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Post by staffordshrew on Oct 21, 2022 17:55:50 GMT 1
All the voters who value the opportunity to vote in free and fair elections in this country and feel all those able should use that right. its far too early to say if and who im voting for yet, not even seen the runners and riders yet, or heard their pitches or anything do I sense you've already decided the way you are voting, the word irresponsible springs to mind ;-) its far too early to say if and who im voting for yet, not even seen the runners and riders yet, or heard their pitches or anything
But I will be voting.
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Post by Pilch on Oct 21, 2022 18:22:01 GMT 1
its far too early to say if and who im voting for yet, not even seen the runners and riders yet, or heard their pitches or anything do I sense you've already decided the way you are voting, the word irresponsible springs to mind ;-) its far too early to say if and who im voting for yet, not even seen the runners and riders yet, or heard their pitches or anything
But I will be voting.
the word predictable springs to mind ;-) |
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Post by Pilch on Oct 21, 2022 18:37:21 GMT 1
do we know what time boris announces he's not standing so we can take the strait jackets off many b&a members ?
surely just Penny V Rishi
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Post by staffordshrew on Oct 21, 2022 20:30:46 GMT 1
its far too early to say if and who im voting for yet, not even seen the runners and riders yet, or heard their pitches or anything
But I will be voting.
the word predictable springs to mind ;-) Never assume. Take a look at Lib Dem. Helen Morgan in N Shropshire. If I was a voter there how could I resist such an excellent candidate? |
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Post by martinshrew on Oct 22, 2022 8:42:44 GMT 1
speak for yourself, I like to keep an open mind and only vote for those deserving of the vote ? I certainly wouldn't vote for someone just because I dont like someone else, I mean wtf is that about ? Can we count on your voting next time then? Don't care who for, but surely someone will deserve your vote?
Exercise your prerogative, it must be a bit flabby by now... Who's we? You keep speaking for others. |
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Post by staffordshrew on Oct 22, 2022 9:40:56 GMT 1
do we know what time boris announces he's not standing so we can take the strait jackets off many b&a members ? surely just Penny V Rishi Who's we? |
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Post by northwestman on Oct 22, 2022 9:49:43 GMT 1
this is why there are so many tory bashing threads , any posts they don't like the look of they can just hop onto one of the other threads and pretend nothing has happened 😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳 Labour MP found guilty and resigns, what’s there to debate? It’s would be different if he’d refused to resign and continued in public office. As has Rob Roberts in Delyn. |
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Post by staffordshrew on Oct 22, 2022 11:19:27 GMT 1
Labour MP found guilty and resigns, what’s there to debate? It’s would be different if he’d refused to resign and continued in public office. As has Rob Roberts in Delyn. Go on, for the sake of fairness, tell us how those in the Tory party accused of things like this have behaved? |
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Post by northwestman on Oct 22, 2022 18:30:02 GMT 1
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