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Post by stuttgartershrew on Mar 30, 2021 9:32:44 GMT 1
I'm not entirely sure I can to be honest. I think to travel you have to have a good reason to do so, so for the main part business. Although I am reading a fair bit about trips from Germany to the Balearics being OK. And I'd be worried about getting stuck over there if anything were to change in the mean time. Cant be a better reason than "I'm going to get my jab at a country that is rolling them out at some speed rather than hanging on here where they are just buggering about and getting nowhere". Got a feeling I wouldn't quite make it onto the plane with that one.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2021 9:36:56 GMT 1
The Bowling Centre in Shrewsbury is closing on Thursday until 22nd April. No shortage of vaccine. Shortage of patients til the lower age groups are released and the second doses start. Other vaccine centres likely to also close for different periods of time. In one way a triumph that so many of the over fifties have now had it but still very sad that so many other age groups are desperate to get it. The vaccine is there and the centres are well staffed. Very frustrating. Surely they'd start the 40-49s? Our supply is reducing next month and what we have will be ringfenced for the second doses as they obviously need to be done within 3 months of the first. I'm not sure why the Sundorne is closed though as you'll still have thousands of second does being needed
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2021 9:41:15 GMT 1
to be fair, quite a few are closing for days here and there, suppose it gives them chance to update admin and so on.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Mar 30, 2021 9:50:18 GMT 1
www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-9415753/Are-waiting-second-jab-Heres-need-know.html"Are there enough supplies of the Pfizer and AstraZeneca vaccines for everyone who's had their first dose to get their second dose after 12 weeks? The Government's Vaccine Taskforce has announced there will be a 'significant reduction' in supplies starting this week. It's triggered partly by a delay in delivery from India of five million AstraZeneca jabs. This slowdown is expected to last for four weeks. However, the Government insists second doses will not be affected and that the NHS is on track to deliver all second doses within 12 weeks of people receiving their first jabs."
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Post by zenfootball2 on Mar 30, 2021 10:08:49 GMT 1
considering the threats from the EU the more vaccine we can produce in the uk with no reliance on EU supply chain the better, if supplys can be available in june htis will be a big boost and help us complete hte vaccinations for uk citizens and then be in a position to help other countrys.it is also effective against current mutations. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tees-56570168"Tens of millions of doses of the Novavax vaccine will now be produced and packaged in north-east England, the prime minister has announced. Boris Johnson said a deal had been agreed with GlaxoSmithKline (GSK) to bottle 60 million doses at its facility in Barnard Castle, County Durham. GSK said it hoped the "fill and finish" process can begin as early as May. In January, it was announced the vaccine would be manufactured at the Fujifilm plant in Billingham." "Novavax is currently being assessed by the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency. The biotech company behind it, also called Novavax, recently announced its vaccine was 86% effective against the Kent variant of Covid-19 and 96% effective in preventing cases caused by the original strain." "The news that the Novavax vaccine is going to go through a process known as fill and finish in the UK is an interesting development. Fill and finish is the process by which vaccines are packaged up in vials, ready to be sent out to vaccination clinics. The original plan was for this to be done in Europe once the vaccine product was manufactured by plants in the north east. But a deal has been struck with drug firm GSK to do that here. Officially, the government is saying that it is all part of their investment in the British life science industry. But given the threats from Europe about restricting exports of vaccines, it begs all sorts of other questions too. The north east plants have already started manufacturing the 60m doses ordered by the government. If it gets approval by the regulator - expected in the coming weeks - supplies could be available in June."
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Post by staffordshrew on Mar 30, 2021 10:20:29 GMT 1
Cant be a better reason than "I'm going to get my jab at a country that is rolling them out at some speed rather than hanging on here where they are just buggering about and getting nowhere". Got a feeling I wouldn't quite make it onto the plane with that one. Probably make it onto the front page of Bild though! Especially with an election coming up.
But, the downside, 2 weeks quarantine here, possible £5000 fine, plus whatever Germany wants to do to you.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2021 13:38:56 GMT 1
to be fair, quite a few are closing for days here and there, suppose it gives them chance to update admin and so on. Firebreaks like this are commonly used in IT deployment projects. It gives teams to catch any stragglers and address any issues for the next phase of deployments. Unfortunately we used to get project managers who insisted on running at 100% capacity all the time. This meant the team wouldn't get a break and would burn out. I'm due to go back to my clinic in Mid April for the Second round of Jabs. I suspect it will be more spread out as we have less pressure to as it's a booster.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Mar 30, 2021 14:10:14 GMT 1
a lot of people will be having there second jab in april and may so you can expect them to be running back at full capacity ,also the moderna vaccine will arrive in april and the novavax vaccine in june
whilst we still have a way to go things have moved in the right direction the vaccination and the lockdown seems to have had an impact on hospital addmissions and deaths.
just as a comparison my aunty who lives in the northern territorys in australia is 94 and she has not had her vaccination yet,the only blessing is that there are virtually no cases in her state.
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Post by staffordshrew on Mar 30, 2021 20:24:13 GMT 1
I see Lenny Henry suporting a campaign for people to get vaccinated.
Perhaps the Black Lives Matter people should run a campaign? Slogan: Black Lives Matter - So Get Vaccinated!
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Mar 31, 2021 12:40:47 GMT 1
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Mar 31, 2021 18:30:38 GMT 1
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Post by servernaside on Apr 1, 2021 0:30:49 GMT 1
Anyone over 30 can now get one without too much difficulty.
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Post by theNOTORIOUSfbs on Apr 1, 2021 0:33:19 GMT 1
I'm waiting for my second vaccination. Let me run this by you..... All these people saying they had a reaction from their jab......probably can't remember having a jab in their adult life? Inoculations as a baby etc People who have to jab themselves at home for various reasons, biological treatment, have to go to hospital for infusions, canulars all over the place, B12 injections, PICC lines to the heart. etc don't make a fuss? These people suffering a 'reaction' to their vaccine which led them to feel 'fatigued', 'sore flipin arm below the shoulder' where they injected, felt 'fluey', spent two days in bed etc should get a grip...It's natural You've had a simple flipin' jab!. A IM injection. Natural flipin' soreness... The soreness in what every flipin' vulnerable person etc gets when they have the normal flu jab etc. You haven't suffered a flipin' reaction etc. No need to call the surgery, call 111, ring a flipin' ambulance or go to A&E... The soreness passes after a couple of flipin days. No need to stay in bed for 2 days etc Man up!
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Post by frankwellshrews on Apr 1, 2021 9:54:21 GMT 1
Honestly makes me wonder about lobbying. Didn't the German government invest quite a lot in the development of the Pfizer vaccine? Makes you wonder about what links there are between that company and German politicians. It's shaping up to be the scandal of the century if it turns out that German politicians nixed the AZ vaccine to drive traffic towards the more expensive Pfizer one.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Apr 1, 2021 10:57:56 GMT 1
www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/cases-2019-ncov-eueeawhen you look at the eu deaths from covid and the handful of cases with blood clots, you have a much higher risk of blood clots from covid, the death toll in the eu is appaling , there have been blood clots from patients who had the pfizer vaccine which seems to have had no coverage in the EU. so you can die you can have long covid, you can get blood clots or have a vaccine with a miniscual odds of possibly getting a blood clot
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Post by zenfootball2 on Apr 1, 2021 11:07:14 GMT 1
this theory never makes any sense bearing in mind the bulk of people have a mobile phone and they can track you with them so if they are that concerned throw away your phone (not holding my breath on that one)
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Post by wakemanender on Apr 1, 2021 11:59:56 GMT 1
Anyone over 30 can now get one without too much difficulty. More difficult than you think in Shropshire with the Bowling Green, Ludlow Racecourse and Telford International Centre all now closed until second doses start in two or three weeks time.
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Post by servernaside on Apr 1, 2021 16:55:22 GMT 1
Anyone over 30 can now get one without too much difficulty. More difficult than you think in Shropshire with the Bowling Green, Ludlow Racecourse and Telford International Centre all now closed until second doses start in two or three weeks time. They are being given in Shrewsbury and north Shropshire.
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Post by The Shropshire Tenor on Apr 5, 2021 19:15:41 GMT 1
I can’t understand the anti Astra Zeneca propaganda in Europe, we’ve just had a message from friends in Belgium saying they’ve refused the AZ vaccine as it’s “too dangerous “.
Possible problem for Stutty re travel, a German house mate of our granddaughter arranged to fly home for Easter and the airline insisted that he had a PCR test costing £175 before he could be allowed to fly.
When he got to London (from Manchester) he was informed that the airline had cancelled all flights for the foreseeable but he could re book with anther carrier. However, they would not accept the original PCR and said he would have to take their own version at a further £175, plus book into an hotel for a couple of days to wait for results. He did have the money to pay for a test or accommodation but after 15 minutes of sobbing at the check in desk they pity on him and said they would make an exception and accept the original test.
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Post by martinshrew on Apr 5, 2021 19:20:19 GMT 1
I can’t understand the anti Astra Zeneca propaganda in Europe, we’ve just had a message from friends in Belgium saying they’ve refused the AZ vaccine as it’s “too dangerous “. Possible problem for Stutty re travel, a German house mate of our granddaughter arranged to fly home for Easter and the airline insisted that he had a PCR test costing £175 before he could be allied to fly. When he got to London (from Manchester) he was informed that the airline had cancelled all flights for the foreseeable but he could re book with anther carrier. However, they would not accept the original PCR and said he would have to take their own version at a further £175, plus book into an hotel for a couple of days to wait for results. He did have the money to pay for a test or accommodation but after 15 minutes of sobbing at the check in desk they pity on him and said they would make an exception and accept the original test. The EU are trying to save face. They've royally ****ed up this rollout and they know it. If there's another pandemic (Of course there will be) they want to hope Astrazenica aren't the only vaccine maker to have a breakthrough as they've already stated they won't be doing it at cost after this. The EU have made a right hash of this.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Apr 5, 2021 21:20:08 GMT 1
I can’t understand the anti Astra Zeneca propaganda in Europe, we’ve just had a message from friends in Belgium saying they’ve refused the AZ vaccine as it’s “too dangerous “. Possible problem for Stutty re travel, a German house mate of our granddaughter arranged to fly home for Easter and the airline insisted that he had a PCR test costing £175 before he could be allied to fly. When he got to London (from Manchester) he was informed that the airline had cancelled all flights for the foreseeable but he could re book with anther carrier. However, they would not accept the original PCR and said he would have to take their own version at a further £175, plus book into an hotel for a couple of days to wait for results. He did have the money to pay for a test or accommodation but after 15 minutes of sobbing at the check in desk they pity on him and said they would make an exception and accept the original test. The EU are trying to save face. They've royally ****ed up this rollout and they know it. If there's another pandemic (Of course there will be) they want to hope Astrazenica aren't the only vaccine maker to have a breakthrough as they've already stated they won't be doing it at cost after this. The EU have made a right hash of this. Absolutely spot on. I know it isnt everything about leaving the EU but if we hadnt we could well have been caught up in this total balls up they have, and are still making. Shambles is a massive understatement.
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Post by Valerioch on Apr 5, 2021 21:37:16 GMT 1
The EU are trying to save face. They've royally ****ed up this rollout and they know it. If there's another pandemic (Of course there will be) they want to hope Astrazenica aren't the only vaccine maker to have a breakthrough as they've already stated they won't be doing it at cost after this. The EU have made a right hash of this. Absolutely spot on. I know it isnt everything about leaving the EU but if we hadnt we could well have been caught up in this total balls up they have, and are still making. Shambles is a massive understatement. Not just that, but if we had a Labour or Lib Dem government too we could’ve been up s**t creek like Europe with regards vaccines Both parties were massively critical at the Governments decision to not join the EU Vaccines scheme in July 2020
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Apr 5, 2021 22:27:23 GMT 1
Absolutely spot on. I know it isnt everything about leaving the EU but if we hadnt we could well have been caught up in this total balls up they have, and are still making. Shambles is a massive understatement. Not just that, but if we had a Labour or Lib Dem government too we could’ve been up s**t creek like Europe with regards vaccines Both parties were massively critical at the Governments decision to not join the EU Vaccines scheme in July 2020 I'm not a Tory but I'm hugely glad that we didnt elect any of the other parties right now.
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Post by staffordshrew on Apr 7, 2021 15:57:06 GMT 1
Boris got lucky with vaccines. But the rollout here is currently slowing and Joe Biden is doing very well, thank you. On target with their rollout, Biden reckons anyone over 18 will be able to have one from the middle of April. Meanwhile our government seems to have got bogged down and is wasting time thinking about vaccine passports within the UK - just stick the details on your passport, so that international travel might be possible.
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Post by northwestman on Apr 7, 2021 16:39:37 GMT 1
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9445467/Under-30s-NOT-AstraZeneca-vaccine-says-UK-regulator.htmlBritons under 30 should not take AstraZeneca's coronavirus vaccine due to mounting evidence linking it to rare blood clots, UK health chiefs ruled today. In a major blow to the UK's vaccination rollout, the Government's vaccine advisory group is recommending healthy people aged 19 to 29 be offered either the Pfizer or Moderna jabs instead when the programme moves to younger groups in the coming months. A review by the drugs watchdog the MHRA found that by the end of March 79 out of 20million Britons vaccinated with the AstraZeneca vaccine had suffered deadly blood clots in the brain or arteries, a rate of about one in 250,000. Nineteen of the cases died and three were under the age of 30. The MHRA insisted there was still no concrete proof that the British-made vaccine is causing the clots, but admitted the link was getting firmer. The review prompted the Government's vaccine advisory group, the JCVI, to recommend that people aged 18 to 29 be given an alternative jab. Britons over that age are still being advised to get the vaccine because the risk of Covid far outweighs the chance of developing the extremely rare conditions. But the JCVI said the balance of benefits and risks was 'more finely balanced' in younger people.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Apr 7, 2021 16:48:31 GMT 1
Boris got lucky with vaccines. But the rollout here is currently slowing But is it slowing? Sure the numbers of 1st jabs is slowing, but is that because it's time to give the 2nd jabs to those who's time it is. That will inevitably slow down the roll out of 1st ones.
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Post by servernaside on Apr 7, 2021 19:36:52 GMT 1
Boris got lucky with vaccines. But the rollout here is currently slowing and Joe Biden is doing very well, thank you. On target with their rollout, Biden reckons anyone over 18 will be able to have one from the middle of April. Meanwhile our government seems to have got bogged down and is wasting time thinking about vaccine passports within the UK - just stick the details on your passport, so that international travel might be possible. "Got lucky" ? Explain.
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Post by staffordshrew on Apr 7, 2021 19:43:19 GMT 1
Boris got lucky with vaccines. But the rollout here is currently slowing and Joe Biden is doing very well, thank you. On target with their rollout, Biden reckons anyone over 18 will be able to have one from the middle of April. Meanwhile our government seems to have got bogged down and is wasting time thinking about vaccine passports within the UK - just stick the details on your passport, so that international travel might be possible. "Got lucky" ? Explain. Easy, he chucked the sort of money he chucked at Trace into ordering tens of millions of unproven vaccines, luckily most actually worked. This time he came up trumps, could have been left with a lot of egg on his face.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Apr 7, 2021 20:19:01 GMT 1
Easy, he chucked the sort of money he chucked at Trace into ordering tens of millions of unproven vaccines, luckily most actually worked. This time he came up trumps, could have been left with a lot of egg on his face. Meanwhile the only ones with masses off egg on their faces are the EU who simply werent at the races and are all mow paying the price. Well done Boris on this one
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Post by staffordshrew on Apr 7, 2021 20:23:29 GMT 1
Easy, he chucked the sort of money he chucked at Trace into ordering tens of millions of unproven vaccines, luckily most actually worked. This time he came up trumps, could have been left with a lot of egg on his face. Meanwhile the only ones with masses off egg on their faces are the EU who simply werent at the races and are all mow paying the price. Well done Boris on this one Yes, now Boris, can you explain what happened to all the money spent on Trace? "The world's best Trace system" Hmmmm.
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