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Post by zenfootball2 on Nov 24, 2020 22:16:50 GMT 1
pugh and whalley linked up well to score 0-2 best possible start for the second half.then the groundhog day nightmare defending as towncontinues as they seem determined to throw the game away. anyone have the stats for how often town have drawn or lost after going ahead, we seem incapable of holding on to a lead or winning or any semblence of game managment. what is so frustrating is you get your hopes up and think this is the one were get a win only to start getting a feeling of dread as we conceed a goal.
we look dangerous going forward and we now are scoring golas but utterly usless in defence,it is alarming to see defenders lacking any urgency to close down players which leads to them scoring.
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Post by londonshrew75 on Nov 24, 2020 22:18:30 GMT 1
You can brake down a manager's job into many departments and as I have said previously on here under Hurst for large parts of alot of games we were 2nd best, but he gave them belief. Ricketts can spot a player, but he's got himself in a right pickle regarding team selection and formation. The two fit keepers are just not good enough and it's a risk to have three rookie keepers? One of the three has to have experience ? My biggest problem is during the game. He's totally lost. I'm not angry now,as I feel a tad sorry for him. It's got to that stage now.
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Post by R6ix on Nov 24, 2020 22:21:26 GMT 1
As with most things, its all about the context. Before the game a 2 all draw would have been ok. However we have blown a 2 goal lead and from what I've read, we were playing a garbage side who were there for the taking (then you add on the lack of wins this season and in 2020). Well, this is the thing isn't it. We are failing to beat teams around us who appear to be just as poor. thats the thing, if we are as poor as teams around us then why should we be beating them? im sure fans from all the other struggling teams will all be making the same points tonite on there own forums? we have no divine right to be up there,apart from the hurst miracle we seem to be at the level we always have been in this division?
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Post by Stowmarket Shrew on Nov 24, 2020 22:21:31 GMT 1
So, another roll of the dice, yet another formation and change of personel and yet another utter shambles. It's no exaggeration to say MK were as poor for the first half as I've ever seen a league opponent of Towns. At the back they were an utter shambles and with hindsight Town should have got two. Robbed blind by an appalling decision for Pugh's disallowed goal but even then a brilliantly worked 2nd and Town should have been home and hosed. But, we all know what happens next. Awful from Iliev for both but just ponderous and static defending all round. You can't ship two goals against any one and expect to win. Whalley man of the match by a country mile. But, the real story of the night is Sam's further tinkering. The last roll of the dice of a desperate man. He clearly doesn't know his best formation or his best personel. Work in progress / such desperation is simply not good enough after more than two years. The guy's simply way out of his depth. Over to you Roland and Brian, we all know what's coming please just sort it quickly. Not too sure what you mean about tinkering, apart from the keeper change the other 3 changes were enforced. And formation pretty much the same as well, still a form of 3-4-3 that we’ve played for last few games. We created enough chances to win comfortably, but failed to do it again Still making poor mistakes to give away poor goals. Can they not concentrate or do they just get too nervous ? No idea what the answer is Well no recognised striker, Miller and Daniels as more offensive wing back style players, and Whalley and Pugh much narrower together up front - at least that's how I saw it tonight. For me that's tinkering.
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Post by martinshrew on Nov 24, 2020 22:21:39 GMT 1
Pugh & Whalley either side of Clarke is nailed on goals in this league.
Playing young, inexperienced keepers who simply are nowhere near good enough is nailed on goals for the opposition every week.
Think we need a new man at the helm, the ground wouldn't be a nice place with fans in it at the moment.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2020 22:23:56 GMT 1
Pugh & Whalley either side of Clarke is nailed on goals in this league. Playing young, inexperienced keepers who simply are nowhere near good enough is nailed on goals for the opposition every week. Think we need a new man at the helm, the ground wouldn't be a nice place with fans in it at the moment. Problem is with Pugh he doesn't put in a shift, off the ball he stands there and watches. Walley is chasing things down, like Cummings did tonight, just thinking Pugh is too lazy and we play a man down without the ball
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2020 22:24:30 GMT 1
Well, this is the thing isn't it. We are failing to beat teams around us who appear to be just as poor. thats the thing, if we are as poor as teams around us then why should we be beating them? im sure fans from all the other struggling teams will all be making the same points tonite on there own forums? we have no divine right to be up there,apart from the hurst miracle we seem to be at the level we always have been in this division? We don't have a divine right to be up there but fans aren't asking to be 'up there'. We are saying we shouldn't be second bottom with 1 win in 13 or 3 wins in 27. But maybe you think we are asking too much.
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Post by South Stand Salopian on Nov 24, 2020 22:25:54 GMT 1
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Post by Stowmarket Shrew on Nov 24, 2020 22:26:25 GMT 1
Pugh & Whalley either side of Clarke is nailed on goals in this league. Playing young, inexperienced keepers who simply are nowhere near good enough is nailed on goals for the opposition every week. Think we need a new man at the helm, the ground wouldn't be a nice place with fans in it at the moment. Problem is with Pugh he doesn't put in a shift, off the ball he stands there and watches. Walley is chasing things down, like Cummings did tonight, just thinking Pugh is too lazy and we play a man down without the ball Whalley should be given the freedom of Shrewsbury, full of running and hard work tonight, a player who wears his heart on his sleeve and who should rightly be lauded as a legend. In fact, he deserves way more than he's being given by his colleagues or his manager right now.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2020 22:27:02 GMT 1
Well, this is the thing isn't it. We are failing to beat teams around us who appear to be just as poor. thats the thing, if we are as poor as teams around us then why should we be beating them? im sure fans from all the other struggling teams will all be making the same points tonite on there own forums? we have no divine right to be up there,apart from the hurst miracle we seem to be at the level we always have been in this division? I said "who appear just as poor." And who are around us in the league, so therefore at the same level, i.e, e. We could well finish bottom then...
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Post by Stowmarket Shrew on Nov 24, 2020 22:27:38 GMT 1
The first I wasn't sure but see the video in thread above, the 2nd was a mile onside.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2020 22:29:38 GMT 1
His position is untenable. Simple as that.
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Post by South Stand Salopian on Nov 24, 2020 22:30:22 GMT 1
He said the ref should’ve done his job properly, oh the irony. I think Sam knows he’s on his way out.
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Post by electrum on Nov 24, 2020 22:32:22 GMT 1
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Post by zenfootball2 on Nov 24, 2020 22:32:38 GMT 1
The first I wasn't sure but see the video in thread above, the 2nd was a mile onside. when you are struggling somtimes evrything seems to go against you and the pugh goal looked fine to me but somtimes you need to make your own luck.it would help if we could defend a lead.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2020 22:33:56 GMT 1
Whether the disallowed goals were onside, or not, we had a two goal lead. And missed other chances when on top.
SR needs to be talking about things he can control, not what the lino sees, or not.
This isn't a one off, it's a pattern.
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Post by northwestman on Nov 24, 2020 22:35:11 GMT 1
if recent performances are anything to go by ;we will score first then throw away the lead through poor defending and they will finish us off towards the end of the game either from a keeper error or more poor defending or as we sit deep for the last twenty minutes we hang on to a draw. unless santa arrive early and through a bit of christmas magic ;we learn how to kill games off, we learn to do game managment, the midfield learn how to dominate teams and the defence and the kepper stop making schoolboy errors,if all that happens the elfs and santa deserve a bonus payment and Ricketts must have been a very good boy this year.. not far off with that prediction!
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Nov 24, 2020 22:35:45 GMT 1
Do we know if the chairman is travelling to games, is he watching from the stands? Or is he watching from home? And is anyone checking he's tuned in to the right game?
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Post by frankwellshrews on Nov 24, 2020 22:36:12 GMT 1
I'll predict that that s the last town game Sam will manage.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2020 22:36:48 GMT 1
Disappointing, but hardly surprising to throw away another lead was it? MK had a lot more possession, more shots and more shots on target, while stats aren’t everything, you can’t really argue about a draw after that.
Don’t see much point in commenting on Ricketts anymore, we all know what the vast majority of the fans want but it’s not up to us, honestly don’t know what will happen now, only thing predictable at the moment is our ability to throw away points.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Nov 24, 2020 22:38:16 GMT 1
You can't keep looking to the officials when its your lads camped out on their own six yard box come 90 minutes each game just trying to see the game out. Sure things don't always go your way but one win in 13 isn't the fault of the ref.
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Post by ssshrew on Nov 24, 2020 22:38:25 GMT 1
I told you that’s what he would say! I just knew it. Two cast iron solid excuses handed to him on a plate.
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Post by R6ix on Nov 24, 2020 22:38:37 GMT 1
thats the thing, if we are as poor as teams around us then why should we be beating them? im sure fans from all the other struggling teams will all be making the same points tonite on there own forums? we have no divine right to be up there,apart from the hurst miracle we seem to be at the level we always have been in this division? I said "who appear just as poor." And who are around us in the league, so therefore at the same level, i.e, e. We could well finish bottom then... i dont disagree with you nor am i trying to contradict you,the annoying thing is we show glimpses of being good,
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Nov 24, 2020 22:40:25 GMT 1
The disallowed goals are irrelevant, well they would be if you didnt have Sunday league goalkeeping errors.
TAXI FOR RICKETTS - I'm paying for it.
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Post by Stowmarket Shrew on Nov 24, 2020 22:41:03 GMT 1
MK were hauling players off after 30 mins in an effort to change things, and made changes at half time. Sam waited until much later to make his changes. With five subs available it was a bold move by MK and perhaps betrays Sam's inexperience yet again that he wasn't able to respond.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Nov 24, 2020 22:42:34 GMT 1
I'll predict that that s the last town game Sam will manage. You really have to hope so. Otherwise I really do worry about Staines Mk2 at the weekend, splashed all over the TV.
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Post by Pilch on Nov 24, 2020 22:43:30 GMT 1
Disappointing, but hardly surprising to throw away another lead was it? MK had a lot more possession, more shots and more shots on target, while stats aren’t everything, you can’t really argue about a draw after that. Don’t see much point in commenting on Ricketts anymore, we all know what the vast majority of the fans want but it’s not up to us, honestly don’t know what will happen now, only thing predictable at the moment is our ability to throw away points. yep they had more shots on target 5 v our 4 the 2 good goals we scored were wiped from history by the men in black heres pugh about to not score Attachments:pugh.jp2 (838.58 KB)
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Post by R6ix on Nov 24, 2020 22:46:06 GMT 1
sam sounded very spikey
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Post by RBA on Nov 24, 2020 22:46:54 GMT 1
VERY unwise of Sam to blame the ref BUT didn't watch were our goals disallowed onside and was their second goal offside ? Anyone?
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Post by South Stand Salopian on Nov 24, 2020 22:47:30 GMT 1
Irrespective of any goal incorrectly given as offside, we should be beating a p**s poor team like MK Dons from 2-0 up.
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