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Post by northwestman on Jun 24, 2020 10:42:46 GMT 1
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Post by ssshrew on Jun 24, 2020 10:49:27 GMT 1
Yet again.
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Post by northwestman on Jun 24, 2020 17:25:31 GMT 1
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Post by Exkeeper on Jun 24, 2020 17:32:34 GMT 1
What he considers to be “all relevant information”, will probably be far removed from what is actually “all relevant information”. If it can be proved that he acted unethically or illegally, then throw the book at him. Our PM of course will not do any such thing as they all crap in the same pot. |
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Post by northwestman on Jun 24, 2020 17:47:34 GMT 1
What he considers to be “all relevant information”, will probably be far removed from what is actually “all relevant information”. If it can be proved that he acted unethically or illegally, then throw the book at him. Our PM of course will not do any such thing as they all cr@p in the same pot. Yes, that's exactly my reading of it. But let's see what the press come up with. Having said that, I was far from impressed with the standard of questioning by the opposition. I expected the Tory benches to blame Tower Hamlets Council, Labour Party Housing Policies and anything else they could think of to deflect from the questioning of Jenrick. The maiden speech from the Tory MP for Dewsbury was particularly cringeworthy, didn't refer to the issue at all, was completely out of place, and was nothing more other than a cynical time wasting exercise. But the opposition needed to be far more forensic in its approach. |
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Post by northwestman on Jun 24, 2020 18:50:27 GMT 1
The government has released a cache of documents related to a major property development involving the Tory party donor Richard Desmond. The housing secretary Robert Jenrick intervened to wave through the £1bn Westferry Printworks development but later had to quash his own approval, conceding the decision was unlawful. He agreed to publish the papers after coming under pressure from MPs who have accused him of breaking the ministerial code. Journalists and other observers will now be combing them for evidence of wrongdoing. assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/895113/Annex_A___Supplementary_Documentation.pdf129 pages. That should keep me busy! |
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Post by SeanBroseley on Jun 24, 2020 21:57:49 GMT 1
It appears he has also had a hand in planning permission for a housing and hotel development for the Jockey Club.
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Post by staffordshrew on Jun 25, 2020 1:44:44 GMT 1
There aren't too many lockdown easing shiny things to give us now to take our attention off this government's shenanigans. Probably Sunak will be thrust centre stage with a 3% cut in VAT to divert our eyes while another scandal disappears under the carpet.
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Post by northwestman on Jun 25, 2020 7:46:06 GMT 1
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Post by northwestman on Jun 25, 2020 7:46:43 GMT 1
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Post by northwestman on Jun 25, 2020 7:55:28 GMT 1
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8457073/Dossier-private-messages-Robert-Jenrick-rushed-property-scheme.htmlRobert Jenrick rushed through approval of a Tory donor Richard Desmond's £1billion property deal to help him avoid handing £45million in fees to a Labour-run council after the businessman said he didn't want to hand cash to 'Marxists', explosive messages suggested last night. The Housing Secretary was forced to hand over damning texts he exchanged with former Daily Express owner Mr Desmond as calls grew for Boris Johnson to sack the minister. The billionaire pleaded with him to give the project the go-ahead before a Labour-run council brought in a levy that would cost him £45million.
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Post by northwestman on Jun 25, 2020 8:23:49 GMT 1
I just wonder whether Jenrick and his wife's connections with Russian and Ukranian oligarchs and the constant non-appearance of the Russian Report have anything to do with him being defended by the government.
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Post by ssshrew on Jun 25, 2020 8:25:00 GMT 1
If Johnson doesn’t sack this one of his buddies I, for one, will be wondering just what have this lot got on him that makes him so scared of doing anything.
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Post by Exkeeper on Jun 25, 2020 9:05:05 GMT 1
If Johnson doesn’t sack this one of his buddies I, for one, will be wondering just what have this lot got on him that makes him so scared of doing anything. Johnson can’t sack anyone without guidance from a higher authority - Mr. D. Cummings. |
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Post by northwestman on Jun 25, 2020 9:23:54 GMT 1
If Johnson doesn’t sack this one of his buddies I, for one, will be wondering just what have this lot got on him that makes him so scared of doing anything. Johnson can’t sack anyone without guidance from a higher authority - Mr. D. Cummings. And Mr D Cummings and Jenrick have both clearly broken the lockdown regulations, so Cummings should be able to empathise with Jenrick on that one. Interestingly, they both have Russian connections too. Meanwhile, Boris is allegedly to appoint Chris Grayling as Chairman of the Intelligence and Security Committee. One of the new chair’s first responsibilities will be deciding when and how to publish a report on alleged Russian interference in the British political process completed by its predecessor before the election, which was controversially delayed by Mr Johnson until after the vote had taken place. www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-chris-grayling-intelligence-security-committee-gchq-a9393451.html |
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Post by The Shropshire Tenor on Jun 25, 2020 9:25:17 GMT 1
What he considers to be “all relevant information”, will probably be far removed from what is actually “all relevant information”. If it can be proved that he acted unethically or illegally, then throw the book at him. Our PM of course will not do any such thing as they all cr@p in the same pot. Yes, that's exactly my reading of it. But let's see what the press come up with. Having said that, I was far from impressed with the standard of questioning by the opposition. I expected the Tory benches to blame Tower Hamlets Council, Labour Party Housing Policies and anything else they could think of to deflect from the questioning of Jenrick. The maiden speech from the Tory MP for Dewsbury was particularly cringeworthy, didn't refer to the issue at all, was completely out of place, and was nothing more other than a cynical time wasting exercise. But the opposition needed to be far more forensic in its approach. Maybe the opposition don’t want to push the issue because they don’t want to be reminded that Tony Blair took money from Desmond. Also they may be calculating that pressure will come from within the Tory ranks, there seems to be unease developing about the way the government operates and already Tory back benchers and House of Lords members are campaigning against the proposed US trade deal. We |
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Post by northwestman on Jun 25, 2020 9:30:02 GMT 1
Yes, that's exactly my reading of it. But let's see what the press come up with. Having said that, I was far from impressed with the standard of questioning by the opposition. I expected the Tory benches to blame Tower Hamlets Council, Labour Party Housing Policies and anything else they could think of to deflect from the questioning of Jenrick. The maiden speech from the Tory MP for Dewsbury was particularly cringeworthy, didn't refer to the issue at all, was completely out of place, and was nothing more other than a cynical time wasting exercise. But the opposition needed to be far more forensic in its approach. Maybe the opposition don’t want to push the issue because they don’t want to be reminded that Tony Blair took money from Desmond. Also they may be calculating that pressure will come from within the Tory ranks, there seems to be unease developing about the way the government operates and already Tory back benchers and House of Lords members are campaigning against the proposed US trade deal. We Well yes, I believe Liz Truss is toast anyway, as she didn't come out to support Cummings during his Durham escapade. Backing the prospects of chlorinated chicken and hormone filled beef won't help her cause. |
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Post by northwestman on Jun 25, 2020 10:06:29 GMT 1
Read Nadhim Zahawi's Wiki page, and there's really little surprise that he's come out this morning in favour of Jenrick.
In January 2016 and as one of 72 MPs who were themselves landlords who derived an income from a property, Zahawai voted down an amendment in Parliament requiring rental homes be "fit for human habitation"
In November 2013 Zahawi "apologised unreservedly" after The Sunday Mirror reported that he had claimed £5,822 expenses for electricity for his riding school stables and a yard manager's mobile home. Zahawi said the mistake arose because he received a single bill covering both a meter in the stables and one in his house. He would repay the money though the actual overcharge was £4,000. An article in The Independent also drew attention to the large number of legitimate but trivial items on Zahawi's expenses.
In November 2013 it was reported by the Birmingham Mail newspaper that in May 2011 (one year after he became an MP) Nadhim Zahawi used as a mortgage lender a company called Berkford Investments Limited, which was based in the low-tax British overseas territory of Gibraltar, to finance the purchase of his constituency home 'Oakland' riding stables estate (worth at the time £875,000) in Upper Tysoe, near Stratford-upon-Avon, in Warwickshire.[31]
Berkford Investments Limited is managed by T&T Management Services Limited, which advertises its wealth management services as 'setting up and administering trusts to help the wealthy minimise or avoid property taxes'.
In late January 2018, it was reported in the media that Zahawi was one of the attendees at a men-only dinner event organised by the Presidents Club at the Dorchester Hotel in London. Media reports have alleged that female hostesses were subjected to sexual harassment and incidents of groping and inappropriate touch. Following the revelations of his attendance at the event, Zahawi posted a tweet condemning such behaviour and stated that he felt uncomfortable at what he saw happening. He has also stated that he will never attend such a men-only event again. In response, opposition politicians, including the Shadow Secretary of State for Education, Angela Rayner, called for Zahawi to step down from his position as Parliamentary Under-Secretary in the Department of Education as he did not report his concerns about unlawful behaviour at the event to the police and because he had attended the event before on several occasions.
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Post by ssshrew on Jun 25, 2020 10:40:09 GMT 1
Johnson can’t sack anyone without guidance from a higher authority - Mr. D. Cummings. And Mr D Cummings and Jenrick have both clearly broken the lockdown regulations, so Cummings should be able to empathise with Jenrick on that one. Interestingly, they both have Russian connections too. Meanwhile, Boris is allegedly to appoint Chris Grayling as Chairman of the Intelligence and Security Committee. One of the new chair’s first responsibilities will be deciding when and how to publish a report on alleged Russian interference in the British political process completed by its predecessor before the election, which was controversially delayed by Mr Johnson until after the vote had taken place. www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-chris-grayling-intelligence-security-committee-gchq-a9393451.htmlYet again I have to pick someone on here up for their use of language! Grayling and intelligence in the same sentence - really?!!!!  As they say ...... you’re ‘aving a larf!!! |
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Post by northwestman on Jun 25, 2020 10:44:44 GMT 1
When Cummings didn't go we all learned we didn't need to abide by the law. If Jenrick doesn't go we will learn too that political corruption doesn't matter. This is the country Johnson is making for us. A cesspool.
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Post by northwestman on Jun 25, 2020 11:19:48 GMT 1
Cummings gives a press conference full of lies that no one buys, Johnson considers the matter closed.
Jenrick releases damning documents, Johnson considers the matter closed.
I'm spotting a pattern.
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Post by staffordshrew on Jun 25, 2020 11:57:14 GMT 1
Cummings gives a press conference full of lies that no one buys, Johnson considers the matter closed. Jenrick releases damning documents, Johnson considers the matter closed. I'm spotting a pattern. It worked with Cummings, so give "matter closed" a re-run. Journalists have short memories once something else happens. You also forget about releasing documents and, when challenged, consider putting failing Grayling in charge to fudge things until everyone forgets. |
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Post by venceremos on Jun 25, 2020 12:05:15 GMT 1
The investigative journalist, John Sweeney, wrote an intriguing article on bylinetimes.com (before Jenrick released the messages) about the connection between the boy-faced wunderkind' (Jenrick) and 'ex-porn baron' (Richard Desmond), Desmond's past run in with the Gambino crime family in New York and Jenrick's past professional life within a legal firm advising dubious billionaire Russian oligarchs.
There's a clear inference that Desmond was not a person that any MP, let alone government minister, should be getting close to. As someone who has to follow strict codes of conduct and pay for annual supervision under the anti-money laundering regulations, I find it extraordinary that similar levels of compliance don't appear to apply to our rulers and legislators.
The piece ends with as good a last line as any journalist could hope to write:
"The Gambino crime family deny any wrongdoing."
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Post by northwestman on Jun 25, 2020 12:09:32 GMT 1
The investigative journalist, John Sweeney, wrote an intriguing article on bylinetimes.com (before Jenrick released the messages) about the connection between the boy-faced wunderkind' (Jenrick) and 'ex-porn baron' (Richard Desmond), Desmond's past run in with the Gambino crime family in New York and Jenrick's past professional life within a legal firm advising dubious billionaire Russian oligarchs. There's a clear inference that Desmond was not a person that any MP, let alone government minister, should be getting close to. As someone who has to follow strict codes of conduct and pay for annual supervision under the anti-money laundering regulations, I find it extraordinary that similar levels of compliance don't appear to apply to our rulers and legislators. The piece ends with as good a last line as any journalist could hope to write: "The Gambino crime family deny any wrongdoing." The paragraphs about Jenrick and his wife having links with Russian and Ukranian oligarchs were of interest too. bylinetimes.com/2020/06/23/sweeney-investigates-what-connects-robert-jenrick-to-the-gambino-crime-family-and-putins-oligarchs/ |
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Post by northwestman on Jun 25, 2020 12:37:21 GMT 1
Johnson can’t sack anyone without guidance from a higher authority - Mr. D. Cummings. And Mr D Cummings and Jenrick have both clearly broken the lockdown regulations, so Cummings should be able to empathise with Jenrick on that one. Interestingly, they both have Russian connections too. Meanwhile, Boris is allegedly to appoint Chris Grayling as Chairman of the Intelligence and Security Committee. One of the new chair’s first responsibilities will be deciding when and how to publish a report on alleged Russian interference in the British political process completed by its predecessor before the election, which was controversially delayed by Mr Johnson until after the vote had taken place. www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-chris-grayling-intelligence-security-committee-gchq-a9393451.htmlThe intelligence and security committee has not sat for the longest time in more than 25 years, it has emerged amid claims "control freakery" at Number 10 has delayed appointments. Two senior Conserative MPs told The Telegraph that the fact a new committee has not been formed since December’s general election was a result of “the complete control freakery of the Cummings group within No 10”. “They want total control of key appointments so they can appoint their own people.” Tobias Ellwood, chairman of the defence select committee, the delay was “either based on the Government having something to hide, it doesn't care about scrutiny, or it's being lazy”. |
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Post by ssshrew on Jun 25, 2020 12:38:33 GMT 1
It would appear to use that well known, but not applicable to our club, phrase - this government is rotten to the core.
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Post by venceremos on Jun 25, 2020 12:45:14 GMT 1
Worth noting that the £40m saving that Desmond would have made courtesy of Jenrick's intervention was not some arbitrary charge imposed by 'Marxists' (Desmond's word).
The money would have been a Community Infrastructure Levy (CIL) payment to Tower Hamlets council (in one of the country's most deprived boroughs). CIL payments are a tool to provide local authorities with the funds to provide infrastructure to support development in their area. I've come across this locally and the benefits it can provide to a community. Say for instance a landowner wanted to build some executive homes, they can't simply do the build, take all the profit and waltz off. A CIL payment contributes to the funds a council might need to build community leisure facilities or a village hall or community centre etc. There's a real cost to local communities if developers are allowed to get around a CIL payment.
It's also worth noting that Jenrick overruled his own advisers to reduce the amount of affordable housing required for approval, potentially saving Desmond a further £106m.
Jenrick's insistence that the planning decision be made before the change to the CIL suggests strongly that he forgot his role is not to be an adviser but to be an impartial legislator and decision maker. [I'm being generous.]
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Post by venceremos on Jun 25, 2020 12:51:20 GMT 1
It would appear to use that well known, but not applicable to our club, phrase - this government is rotten to the core. Unfortunately, many of our citizens appear to believe that 'democracy' and 'accountability' begin and end with voting in an election. The government, having secured a big enough majority at the last election, is therefore free to do anything it chooses and, if we don't like it, we can try to vote them out in 2024. That's a pretty desperate state of affairs. |
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Post by ssshrew on Jun 25, 2020 12:57:04 GMT 1
It would appear to use that well known, but not applicable to our club, phrase - this government is rotten to the core. Unfortunately, many of our citizens appear to believe that 'democracy' and 'accountability' begin and end with voting in an election. The government, having secured a big enough majority at the last election, is therefore free to do anything it chooses and, if we don't like it, we can try to vote them out in 2024. That's a pretty desperate state of affairs. It is indeed. We have another four years of this by which time heaven knows what sort of a mess we, the public, will be in. This bunch could well turn out to be the most corrupt, immoral, self seeking bunch of hypocrites we have ever seen in government and that takes some doing. I see nothing to look forward to in the future to be honest and anyone who really thinks they give a toss about anything is kidding themselves. The only thing I can say with any pride is that I didn’t vote for them. |
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Post by staffordshrew on Jun 25, 2020 14:01:23 GMT 1
[/quote] ssshrew
I see nothing to look forward to in the future to be honest.[/quote]
Arrant nonsense! Soon we might be seeing plain old Boris faiing to answer questions in parliament from the opposition leaders, Sir Ed Davey and Sir Kier Starmer.Then, goodness knows what scandals about Boris and his team will emerge. Eventually grassroots Tories might even rebel.
Continue on with index linked pensions - and they can't sack you!
In 3 years or so, taxes will be slashed as Boris considers ways to buy votes as the next election looms. Shrewsbury Town will be vying for a play-off place in the Championship and the long awaited reports might be released, mostly redacted, of course, but with Grayling probably redacting the wromg bits.
No, for a fun filled future, the future's bright, the futures Boris.
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