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Post by DiglisShrew on Apr 10, 2020 10:35:17 GMT 1
So risks 40 mile journey to deliver essentials to parents !!
Isn’t that the very assistance he’s assuring us he has got local councils to set up and has 750,000 volunteers to choose from ?
I say hypocrite and await his sacking . At the very least let’s not see him lecturing us again !!
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Post by thesensationaljt on Apr 10, 2020 10:42:33 GMT 1
Hypocrite. Just like the other 649.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Apr 10, 2020 10:53:37 GMT 1
I don't really care.
I am a bit fed up of the virtue signalling of people managing a better lockdown than anyone else.
Bloke visits his parents to take them some medicine. Hang him!
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Post by wakemanender on Apr 10, 2020 10:54:10 GMT 1
He travelled that distance for his elderly parents and left supplies outside the door, didnt go in. Yeh right. Nobody local available. Some of these people should start writing fairy stories. They would make a fortune.
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Post by northwestman on Apr 10, 2020 11:20:27 GMT 1
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8206255/Cabinet-minister-Robert-Jenrick-seen-visiting-parents-lockdown.htmlThere is also the issue with him travelling 150 miles from London to Herefordshire 6 days after the lockdown, just after he'd been on the coronavirus press conference urging us all to stay at home. His defence is that the Herefordshire house is his main home, which circumstantial evidence suggests is in the realms of fantasy. Where do his children go to school? If it is in London, then the house in Herefordshire is his 2nd home. It is already stretching credulity that his wife, who is a partner in a City of London Law firm, can operate from Herefordshire. So even if it is discovered that his children are sent to a Boarding School, it is unlikely that either Jenrick or his wife regard the Herefordshire house as their main home. The renting of the Newark house for constituency purposes for £2,000 a month with the bill picked up by the taxpayer is a disgrace. Jenrick is already on record in 2014 saying that it was almost certain he'd sell the Herefordshire house and relocate to Newark. Clearly, this never happened. Presumably, he had little intention of doing so. He already has form for the accuracy of his statements. 'He has said on the internet that he was an entrepreneur, despite never running his own company. His campaign literature said he was a managing director, when in fact he is one of nine such employees at Christie's, the auction house. It also emerged that Mr Jenrick owns three homes, with his American lawyer wife, worth around £5 million'. (Daily Telegraph 2014) Further research also needs to be done to discover whether his parents were already fully catered for by neighbours with regard to supplying them with essentials and medicines. If, as I suspect, this proves to be the case, then Jenrick's journey to Shropshire was unnecessary and in breach of the guidelines.
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Post by Pilch on Apr 10, 2020 11:28:59 GMT 1
So risks 40 mile journey to deliver essentials to parents !! Isn’t that the very assistance he’s assuring us he has got local councils to set up and has 750,000 volunteers to choose from ? I say hypocrite and await his sacking . At the very least let’s not see him lecturing us again !! I'm a concerned son I phone my parents most days, but haven't driven the 2 or 3 miles to visit my missus has visited them twice with essentials and left them on the doorstep I think it depends on what he was delivering, and if it was essential , and if he came into close contact with them in doing so |
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Post by wakemanender on Apr 10, 2020 11:29:33 GMT 1
I nominate Northwestman to carry out further investigation into this matter on behalf of the people and report back to this forum. This is not as complex a case as Mr Dale of Bury but is of national importance.
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Post by northwestman on Apr 10, 2020 11:40:12 GMT 1
I nominate Northwestman to carry out further investigation into this matter on behalf of the people and report back to this forum. This is not as complex a case as Mr Dale of Bury but is of national importance. I'm on the case! 'The revelations also prompted a former Tory minister to accuse Jenrick of “arrogance”. But Jenrick defended his actions, saying he went to deliver food and medicine to his isolating parents. However, the Guardian understands his parents – who are aged 69 and 79 – were already receiving help from the local community, raising questions over the necessity of his trip. The Guardian. 'Neighbours of the housing secretary told the Guardian he and his wife Michal Berkner had been regularly dropping off supplies to his parents’ home during lockdown'. The Sun. 'Neighbours of Robert Jenrick's parents say they had ALREADY been delivering essentials to the couple'. Daily Mail. "His official website does not mention his Grade I listed country house at all, instead saying: "Robert is married to Michal, and together they have three young daughters. "They live in Southwell near Newark, and in London." Daily Mirror. The Sun is definitely peddling fake news. The Guardian was NOT told that. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2020 12:08:27 GMT 1
I don't really care. I am a bit fed up of the virtue signalling of people managing a better lockdown than anyone else. Bloke visits his parents to take them some medicine. Hang him! Same here. All those who want him sacked are probably the same one's who rushed out side last night at 8pm and forgot all about 'social distancing' |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2020 13:48:02 GMT 1
Let's be jury, judge and executioner shall we?
The Daily Mail on another crusade. They won't be happy until he resigns.
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Post by northwestman on Apr 10, 2020 14:16:09 GMT 1
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Post by shrewder on Apr 10, 2020 14:21:15 GMT 1
Heavy handed press.
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Post by wakemanender on Apr 10, 2020 14:34:31 GMT 1
Let's be jury, judge and executioner shall we? The Daily Mail on another crusade. They won't be happy until he resigns. Northwestman is on the case. Lets wait for his full report before we finally decide. From his initial findings above it does appear that the parents were not without help in the community. By the time Northwestman has finished Robert Jenrick will know more about himself, his wife, his parents and his finances just as Mr Dale did. |
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Post by Pilch on Apr 10, 2020 15:18:04 GMT 1
Let's be jury, judge and executioner shall we? The Daily Mail on another crusade. They won't be happy until he resigns. Northwestman is on the case. Lets wait for his full report before we finally decide. From his initial findings above it does appear that the parents were not without help in the community. By the time Northwestman has finished Robert Jenrick will know more about himself, his wife, his parents and his finances just as Mr Dale did. you remind me of uk gold same jokes repeated just a few hours later  |
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Post by northwestman on Apr 10, 2020 15:30:47 GMT 1
Jenrick is being defended by the Chief Whip, Mark Spencer. www.newarkadvertiser.co.uk/news/government-chief-whip-defends-newark-mp-over-lockdown-travel-claims-9106197/Asked if it was appropriate for Mr Jenrick to drive 150 miles from London to Herefordshire to isolate with his family, Mr Spencer said: "Well I'm isolating in Nottinghamshire so he is closer to London than me. I wanted to be close to my family". This of course is a completely disingenuous remark, which is deliberately designed to obfuscate the true position to the rest of us. Spencer knows full well that whereas he has personally lived in Nottinghamshire all his life, Jenrick has a rented constituency base in Newark, and homes in both Herefordshire and London. Yet Jenrick's own webpage only mentions the Newark and London homes - "Robert is married to Michal, and together they have three young daughters. They live in Southwell near Newark, and in London". Thus as far as his own electorate is concerned, Jenrick wishes to indicate that these are his 2 main residences, which at the very least relegates his Herefordshire property to 2nd home status. "Only he knows whether his parents are getting everything that they need within their community," Spencer said. True that he knows, but there are others out there in Shropshire who will know that information too, and hopefully the press will get hold of them soon enough. |
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Post by Chief Inspector Swan on Apr 10, 2020 17:14:35 GMT 1
Let's be jury, judge and executioner shall we? The Daily Mail on another crusade. They won't be happy until he resigns. Northwestman is on the case. Lets wait for his full report before we finally decide. From his initial findings above it does appear that the parents were not without help in the community. By the time Northwestman has finished Robert Jenrick will know more about himself, his wife, his parents and his finances just as Mr Dale did. Safe to say noone’s investigations come close to Inspector Swan |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2020 17:37:38 GMT 1
How’s about we let the government get us through the worst of this mess, and ask the difficult questions and start the lynching afterwards which is the appropriate time for reflection. Not sure what good hounding out key ministers will do at this stage.
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Post by northwestman on Apr 10, 2020 18:31:50 GMT 1
When Dominic Raab faced questions this week about his authority to order a “change of direction” in Government, he was able to hide behind the fact that the issue was, at that point, largely hypothetical.
Not any more. Robert Jenrick’s decision to drive 150 miles to his second home during the lockdown - and make an 80-mile round trip to his parents’ home - means someone must decide whether he should be fired as Housing Secretary.
Only on Sunday, Scotland’s chief medical officer resigned over an almost identical lapse of judgement after it became clear her position was untenable.
Yet acting prime minister Mr Raab cannot sack the Housing Secretary: he lacks the formal powers vested in the Prime Minister, such as the ability to appoint and sack ministers, creating a power vacuum at the heart of Government as long as Boris Johnson remains in hospital.
Whether Mr Johnson is well enough to be consulted on such matters of State remains unclear.
Despite being moved out of intensive care and onto a general ward, Downing Street appeared to suggest today that he is only communicating using gestures.
It has left the Government facing its first real-life test of how it functions in the absence of its leader.
Mr Raab has not spoken to the Prime Minister for a week. He has said that Mr Johnson left him “very clear instructions” before he was taken into hospital, but those did not, surely, include what to do in the event of a loyal Cabinet minister breaking the Government’s own rules on lockdown, which specifically state that visits to second homes are not acceptable.
Any minister who had ignored the message on staying at home and avoiding non-essential journeys would have been in trouble, but Mr Jenrick’s position is worsened by the fact that he fronted one of the daily Downing Street press conferences to hammer home that very message, before heading to Herefordshire.
There are already signs that the crisis created by Mr Jenrick may be far from over. Downing Street faced enough questions about him in today’s daily lobby briefing to suggest that journalists are not yet satisfied with the answers that have been given, meaning they are still poring over his movements looking for fresh angles to the story.
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Post by wakemanender on Apr 10, 2020 18:39:34 GMT 1
Northwestman is on the case. Lets wait for his full report before we finally decide. From his initial findings above it does appear that the parents were not without help in the community. By the time Northwestman has finished Robert Jenrick will know more about himself, his wife, his parents and his finances just as Mr Dale did. you remind me of uk gold same jokes repeated just a few hours later Take that as a compliment. Its as close as Ill ever get from you. |
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Post by staffordshrew on Apr 10, 2020 20:36:13 GMT 1
I can see it now, scores of reporters heading to Herefordshire to report live from the house he drove to.
I am sure I heard a BBC reporter live from outside the hospital Boris was in, never thought anything of it at the time.
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Post by northwestman on Apr 10, 2020 21:09:59 GMT 1
I can see it now, scores of reporters heading to Herefordshire to report live from the house he drove to. I am sure I heard a BBC reporter live from outside the hospital Boris was in, never thought anything of it at the time. No, they'll be heading to Shropshire to try to positively identify the neighbours/villagers who allegedly brought his parents their necessities and prescriptions, and to find out whether they did so on a regular basis. And possibly to check with the local pharmacy as to whether Jenrick called in to pick up their prescriptions, and if not, whether someone else did so on behalf of his parents. That's what I'd be doing anyway! |
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Post by staffordshrew on Apr 10, 2020 21:15:05 GMT 1
I can see it now, scores of reporters heading to Herefordshire to report live from the house he drove to. I am sure I heard a BBC reporter live from outside the hospital Boris was in, never thought anything of it at the time. No, they'll be heading to Shropshire to try to positively identify the neighbours/villagers who allegedly brought his parents their necessities and prescriptions, and to find out whether they did so on a regular basis. And possibly to check with the local pharmacy as to whether Jenrick called in to pick up their prescriptions, and if not, whether someone else did so on behalf of his parents. That's what I'd be doing anyway! To minimise non-essential travel, I hope google maps and the telephone are their first choice. |
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Post by northwestman on Apr 10, 2020 21:23:52 GMT 1
No, they'll be heading to Shropshire to try to positively identify the neighbours/villagers who allegedly brought his parents their necessities and prescriptions, and to find out whether they did so on a regular basis. And possibly to check with the local pharmacy as to whether Jenrick called in to pick up their prescriptions, and if not, whether someone else did so on behalf of his parents. That's what I'd be doing anyway! To minimise non-essential travel, I hope google maps and the telephone are their first choice. Probably recruit someone from the Shropshire Star who lives locally to make the relevant enquiries during their exercise hour! I don't think there's much doubt from the evidence discovered so far that the Herefordshire house is Jenrick's 2nd home. |
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Post by staffordshrew on Apr 10, 2020 21:26:34 GMT 1
To minimise non-essential travel, I hope google maps and the telephone are their first choice. Probably recruit someone from the Shropshire Star who lives locally to make the relevant enquiries during their exercise hour! I don't think there's much doubt from the evidence discovered so far that the Herefordshire house is Jenrick's 2nd home. The names Bpnd, James Bpnd. Looks good on the byline. |
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Post by northwestman on Apr 11, 2020 9:37:25 GMT 1
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8209225/Robert-Jenrick-faces-fresh-claims-broke-lockdown-rules-Herefordshire-home-holiday-home.html'The row over the Cabinet minister accused of breaking lockdown rules escalated last night after neighbours rubbished claims that the mansion where he is staying is his main home. Communities Secretary Robert Jenrick, a key player in the Government's coronavirus response, claimed he had not flouted his own advice by travelling 150 miles to the Herefordshire property because it was the family home. But one of Mr Jenrick's close neighbours described claims this address was his primary home as 'codswallop'. The Daily Mail has been told the Jenricks spend most of their time at their £2.5million townhouse in London, where the children attend school. The Newark MP also states on his website that he lives 'in Southwell near Newark, and London' – with no mention of Herefordshire. Neighbours at the £1.1million Herefordshire residence insisted they rarely saw him. One said: 'We might see him on the odd weekend but the family are not even here every weekend, let alone full time. 'Mr Jenrick has had builders working on the house for much of the last three years.' Another neighbour confirmed builders had been a regular fixture at Eye Manor, which Mr Jenrick bought in 2009 and is 120 miles from his constituency. They said: 'It's a fact the family come here occasionally at the weekend, but they do not live here year-round. 'The children are at school in London for one thing, and both parents have demanding jobs that they could not do from here ordinarily, one would think. 'I suppose you could say this house is more like their holiday home.' A Government source confirmed Mr Jenrick had 'moved his family to his second home'. Another source close to the family in the capital said they lived at their Westminster address during the week. The distinction matters as the Government issued lockdown instructions on March 23 stating people should not visit second homes 'for isolation purposes or holidays'. But Mr Jenrick travelled to his second home from London on March 29 following a press conference he gave in Downing Street. He has also faced criticism after it emerged he visited his parents another 40 miles away last weekend in a Shropshire village. Mr Jenrick said he was dropping off medicine and food and did not enter their home. But he has previously urged people to rely on the NHS for delivering medicines'. Presumably, the press will now be heading to Shropshire to try to positively identify the neighbours/villagers who allegedly brought his parents their necessities and prescriptions to find out whether they did so on a regular basis. And possibly to check with the local pharmacy as to whether Jenrick called in to pick up their prescriptions, and if not, whether someone else did so on behalf of his parents. At that point. it will be game, set and match to the press. Complete hypocrite.
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Post by northwestman on Apr 11, 2020 10:11:28 GMT 1
Another report on Jenrick from the Daily Telegraph:-
A Cabinet minister accused of breaking coronavirus lockdown rules was under pressure to resign on Friday night after his "family home" defence was thrown into serious doubt.
Robert Jenrick, the Communities Secretary, insisted he had not defied a ban on travelling to second homes when he drove 150 miles to his mansion in Herefordshire because he considered it to be his family's main residence.
However, The Telegraph can disclose that Mr Jenrick's primary home is in fact a townhouse in central London, where his wife works and his three children go to school.
A neighbour who lives close to the manor house described his "family home" claim as "total codswallop".
Senior MPs called for the 38-year-old to consider his position, given his high-profile role in Downing Street's campaign to keep the British public inside during the outbreak, including the ban on travelling to second homes.
He is facing growing questions over a journey to the £1.1m 16th-century mansion near Leominster on March 29. Six days after the Government announced a ban on travelling to second homes, he drove across the country to join his wife and three daughters, who had moved there from London a week earlier.
When challenged over the journey, he insisted he had not broken the rules because the house was "the place I, my wife and my young children consider to be our family home". He added: "Once I was able to work from home, it was right that I went home to do so."
However, The Telegraph has learned that his primary residence is a £2.5 million townhouse in Westminster, less than a mile from the House of Commons.
His wife, a partner in a City law firm, works full time in Canary Wharf, while his three young daughters attend school in the capital.
Mr Jenrick has also listed the Herefordshire mansion on the official register of MPs' interests, which excludes properties "used only for the personal residential purposes of the MP or their close family".
Neither does the house appear on his official website, on which he claims to divide his time between London and his constituency home in Newark, another element of his extensive property portfolio.
Sources close to the Cabinet minister would not reveal whether his Westminster house had been designated as his primary residence for tax purposes.
Mr Jenrick has also faced questions over a trip to deliver medicine to his elderly parents.
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Post by northwestman on Apr 11, 2020 11:06:55 GMT 1
At present, Jenrick is bullet proof, as Raab hasn't got the power to hire and fire.
In the meantime, if anyone wishes to view a car crash interview from Jenrick, the You Tube video of the altercation between Jenrick and Morgan and Reid on April 1st on Good Morning Britain is worth a look.
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Post by northwestman on Apr 11, 2020 12:04:42 GMT 1
www.worcesternews.co.uk/news/regional/18374199.housing-secretary-robert-jenrick-face-no-police-action/'The Housing Secretary will face no police action after travelling from Herefordshire to deliver medicines to his elderly parents during the lockdown. Robert Jenrick was reported to have travelled 40 miles to visit his parents in Shropshire from his Herefordshire home. Chief Constable Anthony Bangham of West Mercia Police, which covers Herefordshire said: “I am aware of the article in the media this morning regarding Robert Jenrick Secretary of State from the ministry of housing, communities and local Government. From the information I have, I do not believe this requires police involvement and West Mercia Police will not be taking any action at this time'. "From the information I have". That suggests to me that he's just taken Jenrick's explanation at face value without further investigation. I trust that the media will now be pressing him on what exactly was this information. "At this time" does at least suggest that West Mercia Police's position might change if further information comes to light. Incidentally, Bangham isn't so forgiving if you are 1 m.p.h over the speed limit. www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/fine-speeding-drivers-doing-1mph-14228728
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Post by northwestman on Apr 11, 2020 12:51:33 GMT 1
It is not the first time Mr Jenrick, a former director of Christie's, has faced difficult questions over his property portfolio. In 2014, he rejected claims that he had covered up his £5 million empire in an attempt to win the Newark seat.
In his election leaflets, he claimed to be "a father, local man, son of a secretary and small businessman and state primary school-educated" candidate. But the literature failed to mention that he and his wife Michal Berkner, a partner at law firm Cooley LLP, had bought the manor house in Herefordshire in 2009. The couple already owned a flat in Marylebone, Central London, bought in 2004 for £850,000 and now worth an estimated £2.3 million.
Asked at the time if he would sell the mansion and be moving to the constituency, Mr Jenrick replied that he was "almost sure" he would.
To prove his commitment to Newark, he rented a £2,000-a-month taxpayer funded third home in the area. However the amount of time he spends there is unclear, and a spokesman would not comment on the matter on Friday. Asked in 2014 how many nights the family spent in the house, Mr Jenrick replied: "Er, it has grown over time."
In 2013, shortly before he became an MP, the couple spent £2.5 million on the Westminster townhouse and set up home with their young daughters.
Instead of selling the Herefordshire mansion they embarked on an extensive renovation programme, with plans for a new "service wing", ensuite bathrooms and a cupola. Planning documents show the couple wished to "secure its future" as a viable family home.
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Post by Pilch on Apr 11, 2020 12:55:44 GMT 1
what did he have for breakfast though
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