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Post by Scarecrow on Nov 23, 2019 20:04:47 GMT 1
Not a great day and a poor result but today was one of those freak days at the office I think, no need to massively overreact. It proved what we all know anyway, that we aren’t good enough to beyond midtable this season. It shows something though from 3-1 down to get it back to 3-3.
Roll on Mansfield.
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Post by tvor on Nov 23, 2019 20:20:05 GMT 1
Highlights. www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/11868462/shrewsbury-3-4-bristol-roversGraham Coughlan post-match. www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/we-won-dignity-bristol-rovers-3571500" When referee Graham Salisbury failed to point to the spot, a huge bust-up between both sets of players occurred, and set the tone for a bad-tempered, all-action game."
"Coughlan accused one of the Shrewsbury players of cowardice, claiming they raised their hands to a Rovers player.
He said: "I wanted to go on the pitch, one of their players lifted his hands.
"The referee, whether he chose to dismiss it or didn't see it, I wanted to go on the pitch.
"I don't like cowardly acts."
On the hotly-debated non-penalty, Coughlan backed the referee, but said he felt Rovers were harshly done by themselves when Victor Adeboyejo had a goal ruled out.""He said: "I thought the referee called it spot on, to be honest with you. "It was simulation, the referee is an experienced lad, he's not going to fall for things like that. "On the other hand, we should have been 3-0 up because there was nothing wrong with the goal we scored. "So, 3-0, although this is us we're talking about, the game might have been done. "On a day like today, the game was never going to be done until the referee blew the final whistle. "We were disappointed the third goal didn't stand, it's an error from the linesman."
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Post by South Stand Salopian on Nov 23, 2019 20:31:04 GMT 1
Well today is the final straw for me with this such negative football. 3-1 down, do well to get back to 3-3 but when we should have the momentum behind us all we do is sit back and yes... right on cue Rovers score and win the game. I don’t want Ricketts to go but I’m just fed up and angry with his mindset today and generally since he came in, it seems like we have to be 2 goals down to start giving it a go. Yes we are Shrewsbury I don’t expect free flowing attacking football for 90 mins. Not sitting back at home to the likes of Rochdale, Burton, Gillingham and Bristol Rovers would be a start. Does Ricketts believe in his attacking players? The defence isn’t good as people think it is... they’ve been shocking against Rotherham, Ipswich, Southend, Fleetwood and now Bristol Rovers. O’Leary, Okenabirhie, Giles and Ebanks-Landell in for the next game with Murphy, Thompson, Golbourne and Beckles making way. Negative football? You must have been watching a different game to me. I’m specifically on about when we went to 3-3 and sat back, first 35 mins we were so poor and the no penalty decision helped sparked the game up a little. I did say we only seem to start playing when 2 goals down and we did well to get back to 3-3. Look at what is capable when we go 2 goals down and start playing - Stoke, Accrington and today but we ****ed it up today due to Ricketts negative defensive tactics. He honestly missed a trick today, a win today and there could’ve been a feel good factor around the club and would’ve helped prove the doubters wrong as we climb to 9th also above Sunderland.
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Post by wayahead on Nov 23, 2019 20:57:53 GMT 1
Negative football? You must have been watching a different game to me. I’m specifically on about when we went to 3-3 and sat back, first 35 mins we were so poor and the no penalty decision helped sparked the game up a little. I did say we only seem to start playing when 2 goals down and we did well to get back to 3-3. Look at what is capable when we go 2 goals down and start playing - Stoke, Accrington and today but we ****ed it up today due to Ricketts negative defensive tactics. He honestly missed a trick today, a win today and there could’ve been a feel good factor around the club and would’ve helped prove the doubters wrong as we climb to 9th also above Sunderland. I don’t get the negative football, mid-table team and the rest. The defence wasn’t great today, but have been amazing in so many other games this season. Personally I would stick with Murphy, his mistake for the 3rd, but his kicking is good so is his distribution, shot stopping and handling. We complain when we win 1-0 saying lack of excitement and goals. Plenty of positives to take from today, yeah we were sloppy at times, but we also scored 3 decent goals. Work in progress and we are capable of getting both ends of the pitch right and if we do, we will be a good side able to challenge for the playoffs.
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Post by electrum on Nov 23, 2019 21:08:47 GMT 1
Highlights. www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/11868462/shrewsbury-3-4-bristol-roversGraham Coughlan post-match. www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/we-won-dignity-bristol-rovers-3571500" When referee Graham Salisbury failed to point to the spot, a huge bust-up between both sets of players occurred, and set the tone for a bad-tempered, all-action game."
"Coughlan accused one of the Shrewsbury players of cowardice, claiming they raised their hands to a Rovers player.
He said: "I wanted to go on the pitch, one of their players lifted his hands.
"The referee, whether he chose to dismiss it or didn't see it, I wanted to go on the pitch.
"I don't like cowardly acts."
On the hotly-debated non-penalty, Coughlan backed the referee, but said he felt Rovers were harshly done by themselves when Victor Adeboyejo had a goal ruled out.""He said: "I thought the referee called it spot on, to be honest with you. "It was simulation, the referee is an experienced lad, he's not going to fall for things like that. "On the other hand, we should have been 3-0 up because there was nothing wrong with the goal we scored. "So, 3-0, although this is us we're talking about, the game might have been done. "On a day like today, the game was never going to be done until the referee blew the final whistle. "We were disappointed the third goal didn't stand, it's an error from the linesman." Always liked Coughlan. Great player for us and always seemed like a top guy. But if that’s his honest assessment then I’ve changed my mind. Seems he’s a bit of a cock after all.
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Post by salop27 on Nov 23, 2019 21:24:42 GMT 1
What a funny old game, can't give goals away like that and expect to win. I'd expect a few changes for next Saturday. I'll have to watch a replay of their 3rd goal but live it seemed a bit of a howler so in the tough world of goalkeeping I'd expect to see O'Leary back. I like Beckles but his mess up for the corner they scored from was poor. Lastly, with Whalley probably out I'd start Giles. Despite losing today I actually really enjoyed the game and despite the result and some poor defending I can't fault the effort.
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Post by SeanBroseley on Nov 23, 2019 21:46:57 GMT 1
Architects of our own downfall. Their first three goals and the disallowed goal were the result of defensive errors either from midfield, defence or the goalkeeper. We scored three good goals and at times in the second half played like we were possessed.
What a player Pierre is though. And Golbourne continues to impress me too. Ricketts' substitutions were good.
Given that Whalley is out we have to play two up front with one behind rather than the other way round.
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Post by cheggersdrinkspop on Nov 23, 2019 21:53:36 GMT 1
From where I was, directly in line, I thought the disallowed goal was very harsh, and set pieces they caused huge problems, good game though.
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Post by tractorshrew on Nov 23, 2019 23:05:28 GMT 1
A disappointing result today with some poor defending. However, some of the best entertainment at a home match for some time.
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Post by Dale on Nov 23, 2019 23:09:19 GMT 1
Think today’s game has proved yet again that Giles needs to play regularly as a out and out left winger.
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Post by lancsman on Nov 23, 2019 23:38:14 GMT 1
Hi all, His big mistake was to drop EWBlake. End of .....
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2019 23:43:57 GMT 1
Hi all, His big mistake was to drop EWBlake. End of ..... Should never of let him go..
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Post by lancsman on Nov 23, 2019 23:51:25 GMT 1
You got that right. Ricketts isn’t god. But what he shouldn’t do is try to put right what is working well. Ffs what’s up with him. Whalley is the best thing for Salop, play him whatever........I don’t give a s**t what he does for 85 mins .....what he can do in 30 secs is invaluable. So Ricketts play your best team........doh ....sometimes he doesn’t see the wood for the trees.
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Post by Chief Inspector Swan on Nov 24, 2019 5:50:37 GMT 1
You got that right. Ricketts isn’t god. But what he shouldn’t do is try to put right what is working well. Ffs what’s up with him. Whalley is the best thing for Salop, play him whatever........I don’t give a s**t what he does for 85 mins .....what he can do in 30 secs is invaluable. So Ricketts play your best team........doh ....sometimes he doesn’t see the wood for the trees. Is your mind touching the void? “EWBlake”
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Post by Valerioch on Nov 24, 2019 7:58:06 GMT 1
You got that right. Ricketts isn’t god. But what he shouldn’t do is try to put right what is working well. Ffs what’s up with him. Whalley is the best thing for Salop, play him whatever........I don’t give a s**t what he does for 85 mins .....what he can do in 30 secs is invaluable. So Ricketts play your best team........doh ....sometimes he doesn’t see the wood for the trees. Do you even know why Whalley wasn’t in the squad? I presumed injured. Perhaps you should check before posting this absolute loserous drivel
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Post by ssshrew on Nov 24, 2019 9:18:40 GMT 1
Based on recent games the defending strategy should be simple. If they’ve got an ex player mark him out of the game!!
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Post by Exkeeper on Nov 24, 2019 10:12:50 GMT 1
You got that right. Ricketts isn’t god. But what he shouldn’t do is try to put right what is working well. Ffs what’s up with him. Whalley is the best thing for Salop, play him whatever........I don’t give a s**t what he does for 85 mins .....what he can do in 30 secs is invaluable. So Ricketts play your best team........doh ....sometimes he doesn’t see the wood for the trees. Do you even know why Whalley wasn’t in the squad? I presumed injured. Perhaps you should check before posting this absolute loserous drivel Whalley could hardly walk when he was subbed late in the game at Bradford - calf muscle injury apparently. Still play him whatever, as long as the ref will allow him to use crutches.
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Post by SouthStandShrew on Nov 24, 2019 10:19:44 GMT 1
Anyone think the long haul flights could be catching up? Possibly?
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Post by ssshrew on Nov 24, 2019 10:21:42 GMT 1
Anyone think the long haul flights could be catching up? Possibly? Was my first thought. If only we’d been Bolton we could have called it off citing exhaustion!
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Post by Exkeeper on Nov 24, 2019 10:38:58 GMT 1
Anyone think the long haul flights could be catching up? Possibly? Could be. The mistakes were down to the brain switching off, so quite possibly fatigue.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Nov 24, 2019 11:16:07 GMT 1
...can't give goals away like that and expect to win. I think that just about sums it up...👍
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Nov 24, 2019 11:22:00 GMT 1
Have absolutely no idea what Coughlan is on about when it comes to the peno. It's clear their lad pulled Thompson back. Thompson had done him like a kipper, he couldn't keep up and the only thing left for him was to pull him back. You shouldn't be allowed to get away with that. Daft decision be the referee.
As for their disallowed goal, touch and go I guess. But one of their lads was very much in an offside position pretty much in the centre of goal and close to Murphy.
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Post by Mortgagehound on Nov 24, 2019 11:31:03 GMT 1
A thoroughly entertaining afternoon and well worth the ticket price.
This game reminded me of the Southend game, whereby our defence constantly switched off. We managed to beat Southend but yesterday we gave ourselves a mountain to climb.
Awful decision making by Murphy at the start of the second half, but credit to the lads for getting back on level terms
Clearly we should have had at least two penalties and putting Giles on as an out and out winger changed the game for us.
Unfortunately we have an incompetent referee being the main talking point.
My conclusions
I prefer Max in net
Cummings playing upfront on his own isn’t working
Edwards is failing to make an impression in most games in my view
We should play Giles and Whalley as wingers because that is how we are going to score goals in greater numbers.
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Post by quinnster on Nov 24, 2019 11:35:17 GMT 1
For a mid table game a month before Christmas at times it felt like a local derby or play off controversy. Def an off day for defensive unit. We missed Shaun today, with his high possession stats digging away at their defence and setting up trouble for them etc. At least we came back a few times and scored more than 1 goal after going behind too. Almost as weird as that early season Rotherham game.
Think the players were tired at start, and maybe a bit complacent thinking they wouldn't concede hence half a pace behind Rovers at times....plenty for Sam and the lads to work through this week.....turn it to a positive..........
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Post by camdenshrew on Nov 24, 2019 11:53:14 GMT 1
I feel sorry for Cummings. He needs more support and isn't cut out to be a lone striker. January can't come soon enough.
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Post by Exkeeper on Nov 24, 2019 12:14:34 GMT 1
I feel sorry for Cummings. He needs more support and isn't cut out to be a lone striker. January can't come soon enough. Ahhh, so that’s why Mo Salah didn’t come off the Liverpool bench today - he is heading for SY2 in January.
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Post by shropshirelad42 on Nov 24, 2019 13:13:26 GMT 1
Laurent superb again yesterday, and Giles looks a much better winger than fullback.
Thought Fejiri looked a lot sharper than of late and could start against Mansfield.
Sometimes feel for Cummings as he is a 'play off somebody' striker, not a lone striker.
Enjoyed the game if not the result. We usually seem to be missing something if Whalley is absent though.
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Post by northwestman on Nov 24, 2019 13:48:51 GMT 1
Yes. With Whalley missing, I'd play Giles instead of Thompson to support Cummings together with Edwards.
That said, I'm still not 100% convinced about Edwards. Starting Fejiri with Cummings is an alternative with Laurent playing just behind them.
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Post by davycrockett on Nov 24, 2019 14:12:13 GMT 1
Have absolutely no idea what Coughlan is on about when it comes to the peno. It's clear their lad pulled Thompson back. Thompson had done him like a kipper, he couldn't keep up and the only thing left for him was to pull him back. You shouldn't be allowed to get away with that. Daft decision be the referee. As for their disallowed goal, touch and go I guess. But one of their lads was very much in an offside position pretty much in the centre of goal and close to Murphy. Respect your view as you may have been able to watch replays? But haven’t heard ‘pull back’ as a reason for the penalty shout or off side for their goal. Difficult at game but mostbehindthe goal were confused stating we had a man on each post..... Any replay about? Just watch it (above) and your right about the pull back but we had a player on or beyond the goal line for their disallowed goal, maybe the referee was correcting his previous harsh decision?
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Post by Exkeeper on Nov 24, 2019 14:17:24 GMT 1
Hi all, His big mistake was to drop EWBlake. End of ..... Is that ex-Wolves player Sylvain Ebanks-Blake? Last heard of playing for Walsall Wood in the Midland Premier League - Tier 9 of the English Pyramid.
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