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Apr 18, 2018 7:57:51 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2018 7:57:51 GMT 1
Ridiculous to drop our best goalkeeper in years who has been ever present as part of one of the best defensive records in the league.
Several times last night Henderson's throws to Rodman or quick thinking set us on our way. Our problems are at the other end of the pitch . Certainly not deano.
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Post by Minormorris64 on Apr 18, 2018 8:26:54 GMT 1
Oh dear oh dear, we've still got people going for promotion. Read the person above you talking about resting players for the next 3 or 4 games. They know what they are talking about. We just need to all accept reality and go for the playoffs. C'mon Salop! Why the **** not? It’s still mathematically possible regardless of how unlikely it may be. Belt up and cheer up son. It’s not over yet. Blackburn can get Automatic Promotion with 2 wins, 1 draw & 1 Loss , its called goal difference.
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Post by ssshrew on Apr 18, 2018 8:37:46 GMT 1
Why is Henderson above criticism? He's human like the rest of them and can make mistakes. The punch out instead of a catch just before the first goal would have been slaughtered on here if he'd been Leitweiler.
I agree he's been outstanding but he won't become even better if he doesn't receive and take criticism.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2018 9:08:56 GMT 1
haha bet your mum is well proud of you She is actually. Enjoy another season of league 1 next year, minus ur cup finals against us. On the plus side you can always pop in on ur way to Accrington Stanley. Fantastic achievement by Accy don't you think?
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Post by zenfootball2 on Apr 18, 2018 9:10:05 GMT 1
in a short space of time towns form stats has dropped from third to currently twelfth in the league we have had a dip in form ,injury's and suspensions is the stress getting to them has the fast pace high tempo game led to a dip in form and injury,whatever may be going on we have had two chances to close the gap and we only managed one point out of a much needed six ,we have had eight points out of a possible fifteen.
non of the above comments take anything from the most enjoyable season i have had since i started supporting towns .
can town rediscover some consistency, form and regroup thinking outside the box i thought in the first half lowe was proving a handful going forward( less convinced of his defensive ability)) i know he is young but he has pace to burn with beckles coming back from suspension do think he could play as a winger if needed?
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Post by Fingers on Apr 18, 2018 9:43:20 GMT 1
Last three games have not been brilliant.
Chances created and not scored.
Injuries really taking the toll along with suspensions.
Would also add the state of refereeing has left a lot to be desired as well.
What I wouldn't give to rewind the clock to half time in the Northampton game.
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Charlton
Apr 18, 2018 9:59:08 GMT 1
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Post by davethegreat on Apr 18, 2018 9:59:08 GMT 1
I don't think Henderson was helped out by the poor ball from Saddler. Inna game at home when we needed to win to not have a shot on target was woeful
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Post by blueboy62 on Apr 18, 2018 10:09:59 GMT 1
Charlton are just the latest of a number of teams who have worked us out. They know we are a momentum team who like to play good football, work hard for each other and never give up. So, they frustrate us, they break up play, they fall over constantly, sustain life threatening injuries only to make miraculous recoveries, take it in turn to commit fouls and waste time. Charlton killed the game as a spectacle in the 2nd half but put us under a lot of pressure and it was obvious the first goal was coming for 15minutes. They knew after the 1st half that we carried no goal threat so they were almost guaranteed one point. What must have surprised them though was how poor we were defensively. I thought our players looked visibly frustrated last night, not just with all the gamesmanship but the realisation that our inability to score goals has finally caught up with us in what has been a magnificent season. We are now running on empty; we lack goals, we lack confidence, energy and inspiration. Several players look in desperate need of a rest but will PH really risk conceding the last four games and go into the play offs on a complete downer. I hope not. We need some goals and we need some wins to boost confidence and suddenly the energy may return for the play-offs. Still all to play for, the season 'aint done yet'.
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Post by northwestman on Apr 18, 2018 10:39:32 GMT 1
Why is Henderson above criticism? He's human like the rest of them and can make mistakes. The punch out instead of a catch just before the first goal would have been slaughtered on here if he'd been Leitweiler. I agree he's been outstanding but he won't become even better if he doesn't receive and take criticism. Not to mention the time he tried to catch the ball and dropped it, resulting in chaos in the box. Just as you can trace back Leutwiler's drop in form to the injury he sustained at Grimsby, Henderson has never been the same after his throwing of an object into the crowd at Blackburn and the goal he conceded against Doncaster. Since then, despite some excellent shot stopping still being in evidence, his all round game seems to have deteriorated.
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Apr 18, 2018 11:29:52 GMT 1
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Post by Ambergambler on Apr 18, 2018 11:29:52 GMT 1
Utter shambles of a 2nd half. Been a great season but fear we will not be having a second Wembley trip and all that promise will just be a memory. We are so close.
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Post by wakemanender on Apr 18, 2018 11:36:33 GMT 1
Henderson will be gone at the end of the season. Time to give our reserve keeper some game time. Hes been very patient and never let us down when needed. At the moment I feel that our promotion destiny will be decided by a Henderson or referee mistake. That's been our luck recently.
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Post by wibbin on Apr 18, 2018 12:22:08 GMT 1
I don’t think Charlton dictated anything. They weren’t cynical and besides their keeper on occasions, they only started to time waste near the end. They were just better footballers in the 2nd half and Town were completely bereft of ideas & belief. There was a period where every single one of them missed the ball or scuffed it & that summed the night up nicely. Extremely poor. Interesting that I thought the keeper started timewasting from minute 8 and their no. 16 certainly tried to con the ref on numerous occasions, one of them resulting in Toto being booked.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Apr 18, 2018 12:27:34 GMT 1
I think Henderson is doing OK and see no reason to change things. He's made some mistakes, sure. However, he has also made some decent saves and for the most part is more than capable of coming out and claiming anything sent across. Henderson isn't our biggest problem by a country mile.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Apr 18, 2018 12:47:00 GMT 1
Charlton are just the latest of a number of teams who have worked us out. They know we are a momentum team who like to play good football, work hard for each other and never give up. So, they frustrate us, they break up play, they fall over constantly, sustain life threatening injuries only to make miraculous recoveries, take it in turn to commit fouls and waste time. Charlton killed the game as a spectacle in the 2nd half but put us under a lot of pressure and it was obvious the first goal was coming for 15minutes. They knew after the 1st half that we carried no goal threat so they were almost guaranteed one point. What must have surprised them though was how poor we were defensively. I thought our players looked visibly frustrated last night, not just with all the gamesmanship but the realisation that our inability to score goals has finally caught up with us in what has been a magnificent season. We are now running on empty; we lack goals, we lack confidence, energy and inspiration. Several players look in desperate need of a rest but will PH really risk conceding the last four games and go into the play offs on a complete downer. I hope not. We need some goals and we need some wins to boost confidence and suddenly the energy may return for the play-offs. Still all to play for, the season 'aint done yet'. you have a good point about disrupting the flow and stifling momentum, they certainly used every opportunity to slow the game down . a better ref would have been more up on it he knew it was going on as he indicated to there keeper a number of times to speed it up and escorted players who were doing there best to slow down substitutions a number of simulated injury's did not help ,one of there players was rolling around and when he realised the ref was ignoring him got up and joined the game such blatant behaviour should have been punished.
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Post by bexplorer on Apr 18, 2018 12:52:10 GMT 1
That second half was possibly the worst half of football we've played all season. Collectively and individually we were shambolic. We seemed unable to complete even the simplest pass. Charlton's first showed the benefit of having someone who can take a decent set piece.I am beginning to despair of the amount of opportunities we waste because of poor deliveries from corners and free kicks. Not sure why Rodman stayed on the right for most of the second half because he hardly contributed a thing. It was crying out for him to be shifted back to the left as the game wore on. I'd also give Craig M. another chance. Henderson is now making far too many mistakes. It's been a fabulous season but, as others have said, I'm now beginning to fear for our play-off prospects. The absence of Ogogo looms larger with every game that goes by. Just hope we can restore some confidence and belief with a good win over the bucket shakers on Saturday and that Hurst can sort out his differences with Thomas. We need every man fully on board and committed to the cause. We usually tend to search for superficial quick fixes and try to find an easy answer. There are no easy answers. Our problems started in mid March with injuries and red cards and they will go on untill we do the homework. After the record start to the season PH said he was surpriced which means he didnt plan or hoped it would happen I'm sure we have God opposing our promotion and creating obstacles so that we could find a true reason behind them and start building club on the more solid basis
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Post by bexplorer on Apr 18, 2018 13:20:46 GMT 1
Henderson will be gone at the end of the season. Time to give our reserve keeper some game time. Hes been very patient and never let us down when needed. At the moment I feel that our promotion destiny will be decided by a Henderson or referee mistake. That's been our luck recently. I'm afraid loan and favorite players are first in priority list for PH and situation around Thomas reminds me that of Dodds, not as much game time as he deserves as such players need it to boost their confidence
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Charlton
Apr 18, 2018 13:29:32 GMT 1
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Post by shrewder on Apr 18, 2018 13:29:32 GMT 1
That second half was possibly the worst half of football we've played all season. Collectively and individually we were shambolic. We seemed unable to complete even the simplest pass. Charlton's first showed the benefit of having someone who can take a decent set piece.I am beginning to despair of the amount of opportunities we waste because of poor deliveries from corners and free kicks. Not sure why Rodman stayed on the right for most of the second half because he hardly contributed a thing. It was crying out for him to be shifted back to the left as the game wore on. I'd also give Craig M. another chance. Henderson is now making far too many mistakes. It's been a fabulous season but, as others have said, I'm now beginning to fear for our play-off prospects. The absence of Ogogo looms larger with every game that goes by. Just hope we can restore some confidence and belief with a good win over the bucket shakers on Saturday and that Hurst can sort out his differences with Thomas. We need every man fully on board and committed to the cause. We usually tend to search for superficial quick fixes and try to find an easy answer. There are no easy answers. Our problems started in mid March with injuries and red cards and they will go on untill we do the homework. After the record start to the season PH said he was surpriced which means he didnt plan. I'm sure we have God opposing our promotion and creating obstacles so that we could find a true reason behind it and start building club on the more solid basis What a load of b******ks. Being an atheist, there is no such thing as a god in football. You only bother to post when the chips are down and obviously are not a Town supporter but WUM who knows as much about football Donald Trump knows about running a government.
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Charlton
Apr 18, 2018 13:36:35 GMT 1
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Post by shrewder on Apr 18, 2018 13:36:35 GMT 1
That second half was possibly the worst half of football we've played all season. Collectively and individually we were shambolic. We seemed unable to complete even the simplest pass. Charlton's first showed the benefit of having someone who can take a decent set piece.I am beginning to despair of the amount of opportunities we waste because of poor deliveries from corners and free kicks. Not sure why Rodman stayed on the right for most of the second half because he hardly contributed a thing. It was crying out for him to be shifted back to the left as the game wore on. I'd also give Craig M. another chance. Henderson is now making far too many mistakes. It's been a fabulous season but, as others have said, I'm now beginning to fear for our play-off prospects. The absence of Ogogo looms larger with every game that goes by. Just hope we can restore some confidence and belief with a good win over the bucket shakers on Saturday and that Hurst can sort out his differences with Thomas. We need every man fully on board and committed to the cause. We usually tend to search for superficial quick fixes and try to find an easy answer. There are no easy answers. Our problems started in mid March with injuries and red cards and they will go on untill we do the homework. After the record start to the season PH said he was surpriced which means he didnt plan or hoped it would happen I'm sure we have God opposing our promotion and creating obstacles so that we could find a true reason behind them and start building club on the more solid basis I would further add you have never posted to offer any praise when the team have performed well.
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Post by bexplorer on Apr 18, 2018 14:04:30 GMT 1
We usually tend to search for superficial quick fixes and try to find an easy answer. There are no easy answers. Our problems started in mid March with injuries and red cards and they will go on untill we do the homework. After the record start to the season PH said he was surpriced which means he didnt plan. I'm sure we have God opposing our promotion and creating obstacles so that we could find a true reason behind it and start building club on the more solid basis What a load of b******ks. Being an atheist, there is no such thing as a god in football. You only bother to post when the chips are down and obviously are not a Town supporter but WUM who knows as much about football Donald Trump knows about running a government. Thanks God i know a few things about predicting performance and i dont think you can deny the fact that they are pretty acurate
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Charlton
Apr 18, 2018 14:11:06 GMT 1
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Post by shrewder on Apr 18, 2018 14:11:06 GMT 1
What a load of b******ks. Being an atheist, there is no such thing as a god in football. You only bother to post when the chips are down and obviously are not a Town supporter but WUM who knows as much about football Donald Trump knows about running a government. Thanks God i know a few things about predicting performance and i dont think you can deny the fact that they are pretty acurate Rubbish. Not a supporter if you can't praise the team when they do well.
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Post by polas1949 on Apr 18, 2018 14:23:01 GMT 1
How great it must be to be so full of praise for oneself. I very rarely post on here but am getting so frustrated by all the negative posters. Think back 12 months when we were fighting for our survival in this division and it 45 games to achieve that. This season has been a revelation, from bookmakers favourites for relegation to confirmed playoff candidates. Injuries and suspensions have not helped the cause but we are still in there fighting for promotion. Whatever the outcome it has been a brilliant season so instead of continually complaining get behind the team for the final push. Rant over.
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Post by bexplorer on Apr 18, 2018 14:25:07 GMT 1
Thanks God i know a few things about predicting performance and i dont think you can deny the fact that they are pretty acurate Rubbish. Not a supporter if you can't praise the team when they do well. When we learn the lesson we will all thank God for choosing Town. I'm sure its the best signing Town have ever made
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Charlton
Apr 18, 2018 14:33:30 GMT 1
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Post by shrewder on Apr 18, 2018 14:33:30 GMT 1
Rubbish. Not a supporter if you can't praise the team when they do well. When we learn the lesson we will all thank God for choosing Town. I'm sure its the best signing Town have ever made I suggest you go back to the Planet Zog
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Post by bexplorer on Apr 18, 2018 14:59:11 GMT 1
When we learn the lesson we will all thank God for choosing Town. I'm sure its the best signing Town have ever made I suggest you go back to the Planet Zog I'm surprised that you dont see God himself backs my predictions
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Charlton
Apr 18, 2018 15:04:47 GMT 1
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Post by shrewder on Apr 18, 2018 15:04:47 GMT 1
I suggest you go back to the Planet Zog I'm surprised that you dont see God himself backs my predictions Like I said I am an atheist.
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Post by ssshrew on Apr 18, 2018 15:24:46 GMT 1
Well all I can say is that given the number of times I've prayed over the years for a free kick, penalty, shot, etc., to go in, whatever else God is, he ain't a Shrewsbury supporter!!!
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Post by Minormorris64 on Apr 18, 2018 15:26:39 GMT 1
Well all I can say is that given the number of times I've prayed over the years for a free kick, penalty, shot, etc., to go in, whatever else God is, he ain't a Shrewsbury supporter!!! You'll be telling us he's a Referee next
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Post by bexplorer on Apr 18, 2018 16:12:05 GMT 1
How great it must be to be so full of praise for oneself. I very rarely post on here but am getting so frustrated by all the negative posters. Think back 12 months when we were fighting for our survival in this division and it 45 games to achieve that. This season has been a revelation, from bookmakers favourites for relegation to confirmed playoff candidates. Injuries and suspensions have not helped the cause but we are still in there fighting for promotion. Whatever the outcome it has been a brilliant season so instead of continually complaining get behind the team for the final push. Rant over. Complaining no, analysing. First of all we've been placed at the top of the league by God to become more ambitious, to expect more from the squad. The kind of start Wigan and Blackburn couldnt even dream about, 4 points ahead of Wigan and 10 points ahead of Blackburn. Gradually we started to believe in promotion, but here comes his hard lesson in the form of injuries, suspentions, bad results to cause frustration so that we could get to the heart of the problem and do the work. Only then God will allow us to succeed
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Post by ssshrew on Apr 18, 2018 16:47:12 GMT 1
Well all I can say is that given the number of times I've prayed over the years for a free kick, penalty, shot, etc., to go in, whatever else God is, he ain't a Shrewsbury supporter!!! You'll be telling us he's a Referee next Don't tempt me!!
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Apr 18, 2018 18:03:48 GMT 1
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Post by blueboy62 on Apr 18, 2018 18:03:48 GMT 1
First politics and now religion all in the same football thread. This can only end badly.
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