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Post by talkingoftheshrews on Oct 5, 2017 11:25:46 GMT 1
Of course, sadly there is one big, irreversible change - there is no longer Chris Smith at the helm. I'm not even sure who is to be honest. Since Chris Smith sadly passed away, hasn't Brian Caldwell been involved in the running of the Super Blues as some sort of advisor/mentor? Not 100% whether he still is though
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Post by ssshrew on Oct 5, 2017 12:04:02 GMT 1
Of course, sadly there is one big, irreversible change - there is no longer Chris Smith at the helm. I'm not even sure who is to be honest. Since Chris Smith sadly passed away, hasn't Brian Caldwell been involved in the running of the Super Blues as some sort of advisor/mentor? Not 100% whether he still is though Yes I think so and that is probably still the case as we've heard nothing different.
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Post by thesensationaljt on Oct 5, 2017 12:12:31 GMT 1
Since Chris Smith sadly passed away, hasn't Brian Caldwell been involved in the running of the Super Blues as some sort of advisor/mentor? Not 100% whether he still is though Yes I think so and that is probably still the case as we've heard nothing different. Cancelled my subscription this morning. That'll give them £52.00 per year less to worry about.
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Post by ssshrew on Oct 5, 2017 12:16:20 GMT 1
I've got until next June to do it and will do so. I am just not happy with this at all. It's the principle as far as I am concerned.
I see in the Shropshire Star that the Hospice will be fund raising for a new building soon. That'll be the place for my money.
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Post by wiseone on Oct 5, 2017 12:26:45 GMT 1
Considering we have received fairly substantial donations from supporters' groups at other clubs, this is very embarrassing for the Super Blues. Who is on their committee, and what on earth are they playing at? And the club as well
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Post by ssshrew on Oct 5, 2017 13:27:22 GMT 1
I'm told this has just hit Facebook - a statement from the SBs would be good.
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Post by MartinB on Oct 5, 2017 13:33:44 GMT 1
If we keep going how we are we won't be able to use the safe standing next season anyway Not true. Know your facts.
So what makes you think we will be able to use Safe Standing in the Championship?
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Post by northwestman on Oct 5, 2017 13:35:46 GMT 1
Not true. Know your facts.
So what makes you think we will be able to use Safe Standing in the Championship? They'd probably amend the rules. But hey, even if the rules aren't changed, the seats are still serviceable.
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Post by Bob Rickerton on Oct 5, 2017 14:09:37 GMT 1
Very disappointed by this stance from the Super Blues.
Strongly considering following Jaytee's lead and withdrawing my subs to send the way of the safe standing fund instead.
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Post by thesensationaljt on Oct 5, 2017 14:59:52 GMT 1
Congratulations thesensationaljt, your latest donation to the safe standing campaign has been accepted. (P.S., nice nose).
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Oct 5, 2017 15:10:29 GMT 1
I think we need to know the story before we jump into it too much.
There might be a very good reason we don't yet know about. This initiative is not everyone's cup of tea and some people are quite upset about it.
My Dad sits in the West Stand so is unaffected but was very angry at me that the fanzine had donated to what he sees as a backwards step, for example.
That is not to say the Super Blues might be on the wrong side of history on this one, but it would be worth not generating too much heat until they shed some light.
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Post by thesensationaljt on Oct 5, 2017 15:16:28 GMT 1
That is not to say the Super Blues might be on the wrong side of history on this one, but it would be worth not generating too much heat until they shed some light.
They've had since the fust of August.
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Post by Dale on Oct 5, 2017 15:27:34 GMT 1
Some still have a gripe with the OSC who preferred to stick with clippy, the SB are entitled to their opinions but could be a huge own goal for their own future fundraising efforts if this is true. The OSC didn't just 'prefer' the irrelevant clip art logo, but they actually fought tooth and nail against the successful campaign to restore the Loggerheads over a period of several years. It is a little known fact that, after the landslide badge vote, the OSC even resorted to sending a "poison pen" letter to STFC urging the club to defy the will of the people, and retain the clip art lion forever more. To see the aforementioned OSC now proudly using the Loggerheads on their social media accounts, website and merchandise is extremely galling for all involved. It would be fair to say that the OSC's behaviour regarding the clip art badge and the Loggerheads was a disgrace, and has irreperably damaged their reputation amongst many Town fans. Rather than childishly using 'troll' accounts on B&A created solely to insult me (e.g. blocktenner), its leading members should issue a formal apology to supporters everywhere for obstructing efforts to restore the club's history, heritage and identity. This would go a long way to healing the wounds caused by their cowardice. The Super Blues should be very wary of history repeating itself. I will be extremely disappointed if they have ridden roughshod over an initiative for which some Town fans have worked tirelessly. Don't forget that the Super Blues have spunked large quantities of their funds on several pointless things since the move to the soulless New Meadow. Need I mention the infamous retractable tunnel (!) which cost thousands, and has barely been used? What about the physio bench which made absolutely no impact on the match-day experience of the hoipolloi, and should have been funded by the club in any case? To not support the safestanding campaign wholeheartedly, in both mind and deed, strikes me as mean and grasping behaviour from our largest and best known supporters' group. Those involved should reconsider their stance as a matter of urgency, or may live to face the consequences. WATP I was very dissapointed with the OSC's stance on clippy don't get me wrong, now it seems it's the Super Blues turn to play 'pantomime villain' and I'm very dissapointed with them if this is the case having been a former SB member myself. This is the problem with having a fragmented fan base with different supporters groups, not everyone is going to agree on everything...
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Post by bictonshrew on Oct 5, 2017 15:52:34 GMT 1
Not true. Know your facts.
So what makes you think we will be able to use Safe Standing in the Championship? The fact that they have allowed other clubs to use "(un)safe" standing in the form of terracing.
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Oct 5, 2017 15:57:57 GMT 1
And because the campaign looked in to it. If we go up we have three years to change back to seating (if we stay up).
Its hoped ij that time with so many clubs looking at this that the rules will have been changed within a year or two
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Post by roberto02afcct on Oct 5, 2017 20:11:37 GMT 1
Some still have a gripe with the OSC who preferred to stick with clippy, the SB are entitled to their opinions but could be a huge own goal for their own future fundraising efforts if this is true. The OSC didn't just 'prefer' the irrelevant clip art logo, but they actually fought tooth and nail against the successful campaign to restore the Loggerheads over a period of several years. It is a little known fact that, after the landslide badge vote, the OSC even resorted to sending a "poison pen" letter to STFC urging the club to defy the will of the people, and retain the clip art lion forever more. To see the aforementioned OSC now proudly using the Loggerheads on their social media accounts, website and merchandise is extremely galling for all involved. It would be fair to say that the OSC's behaviour regarding the clip art badge and the Loggerheads was a disgrace, and has irreperably damaged their reputation amongst many Town fans. Rather than childishly using 'troll' accounts on B&A created solely to insult me (e.g. blocktenner), its leading members should issue a formal apology to supporters everywhere for obstructing efforts to restore the club's history, heritage and identity. This would go a long way to healing the wounds caused by their cowardice. The Super Blues should be very wary of history repeating itself. I will be extremely disappointed if they have ridden roughshod over an initiative for which some Town fans have worked tirelessly. Don't forget that the Super Blues have spunked large quantities of their funds on several pointless things since the move to the soulless New Meadow. Need I mention the infamous retractable tunnel (!) which cost thousands, and has barely been used? What about the physio bench which made absolutely no impact on the match-day experience of the hoipolloi, and should have been funded by the club in any case? To not support the safestanding campaign wholeheartedly, in both mind and deed, strikes me as mean and grasping behaviour from our largest and best known supporters' group. Those involved should reconsider their stance as a matter of urgency, or may live to face the consequences. WATP As Star Trek Discovery is in air I shall reply in the style of for you today..... Kl8? Kl8, you're still alive, my old friend? Your complete hatred for the OSC is known far and wide as you have a passion & love for taking everything to a different level as you type away to everyone rather than actually talking face to face. Your use of "quotes" out of context to serve your own small needs are legendary to all as I am sure you must use Hugo Weaving voice in your head when you type away. Where to start with this beauty you have typed........ “fought tooth and nail against the successful campaign” is pure fiction from yourself as guess what I was there at both SP & OSC meetings on the issue so please guess again. “poison pen letter to STFC urging the club to defy the will of the people, and retain the clip art lion forever more.” What dribble….. this is just to serve your ranting on and on…. “aforementioned OSC now proudly using the Loggerheads” OSC have always used Shrewsbury Town current badge and I am sure if it changes or it is tweaked that will be the case again. As too I am sure the other supporter’s groups will too. “It would be fair to say that the OSC's behaviour regarding the clip art badge and the Loggerheads was a disgrace, and has irreperably damaged their reputation amongst many Town fans. Rather than childishly using 'troll' accounts on B&A created solely to insult me (e.g. blocktenner), its leading members should issue a formal apology to supporters everywhere for obstructing efforts to restore the club's history, heritage and identity. This would go a long way to healing the wounds caused by their cowardice.” What the hell is this rubbish all about and PLEASE come and tell me to my face at the next home game against Bristol Rovers on Tuesday 17th October or at the Supporters Parliament meeting on Tuesday 10th October. I do agree with your comment about “I will be extremely disappointed” if they give nothing BUT I will not judge them out of context. I will wait and see what they say about why they are not donating FIRST. Otherwise I agree with very little of what you have said and again I personally welcome you to come and talk to me personally about everything from OSC, SP, Safe standing, whatever you like……. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
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Post by WATR on Oct 5, 2017 23:15:09 GMT 1
The OSC didn't just 'prefer' the irrelevant clip art logo, but they actually fought tooth and nail against the successful campaign to restore the Loggerheads over a period of several years. It is a little known fact that, after the landslide badge vote, the OSC even resorted to sending a "poison pen" letter to STFC urging the club to defy the will of the people, and retain the clip art lion forever more. To see the aforementioned OSC now proudly using the Loggerheads on their social media accounts, website and merchandise is extremely galling for all involved. It would be fair to say that the OSC's behaviour regarding the clip art badge and the Loggerheads was a disgrace, and has irreperably damaged their reputation amongst many Town fans. Rather than childishly using 'troll' accounts on B&A created solely to insult me (e.g. blocktenner), its leading members should issue a formal apology to supporters everywhere for obstructing efforts to restore the club's history, heritage and identity. This would go a long way to healing the wounds caused by their cowardice. The Super Blues should be very wary of history repeating itself. I will be extremely disappointed if they have ridden roughshod over an initiative for which some Town fans have worked tirelessly. Don't forget that the Super Blues have spunked large quantities of their funds on several pointless things since the move to the soulless New Meadow. Need I mention the infamous retractable tunnel (!) which cost thousands, and has barely been used? What about the physio bench which made absolutely no impact on the match-day experience of the hoipolloi, and should have been funded by the club in any case? To not support the safestanding campaign wholeheartedly, in both mind and deed, strikes me as mean and grasping behaviour from our largest and best known supporters' group. Those involved should reconsider their stance as a matter of urgency, or may live to face the consequences. WATP As Star Trek Discovery is in air I shall reply in the style of for you today..... Kl8? Kl8, you're still alive, my old friend? Your complete hatred for the OSC is known far and wide as you have a passion & love for taking everything to a different level as you type away to everyone rather than actually talking face to face. Your use of "quotes" out of context to serve your own small needs are legendary to all as I am sure you must use Hugo Weaving voice in your head when you type away. Where to start with this beauty you have typed........ “fought tooth and nail against the successful campaign” is pure fiction from yourself as guess what I was there at both SP & OSC meetings on the issue so please guess again. “poison pen letter to STFC urging the club to defy the will of the people, and retain the clip art lion forever more.” What dribble….. this is just to serve your ranting on and on…. “aforementioned OSC now proudly using the Loggerheads” OSC have always used Shrewsbury Town current badge and I am sure if it changes or it is tweaked that will be the case again. As too I am sure the other supporter’s groups will too. “It would be fair to say that the OSC's behaviour regarding the clip art badge and the Loggerheads was a disgrace, and has irreperably damaged their reputation amongst many Town fans. Rather than childishly using 'troll' accounts on B&A created solely to insult me (e.g. blocktenner), its leading members should issue a formal apology to supporters everywhere for obstructing efforts to restore the club's history, heritage and identity. This would go a long way to healing the wounds caused by their cowardice.” What the hell is this rubbish all about and PLEASE come and tell me to my face at the next home game against Bristol Rovers on Tuesday 17th October or at the Supporters Parliament meeting on Tuesday 10th October. I do agree with your comment about “I will be extremely disappointed” if they give nothing BUT I will not judge them out of context. I will wait and see what they say about why they are not donating FIRST. Otherwise I agree with very little of what you have said and again I personally welcome you to come and talk to me personally about everything from OSC, SP, Safe standing, whatever you like……. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! One day you'll make a post on here that doesn't look like it's been written immediately after 5 lines of charlie.
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Post by theshrews81 on Oct 6, 2017 6:03:35 GMT 1
I've recently cancelled my dd to super blues. Haven't had an correspondence in years unless I have sent them a question. They had the wrong address stored despite sending it 4 years ago.
The club don't support them by offering discount or loyalty points anymore so will donate my money elsewhere
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Post by ssshrew on Oct 6, 2017 8:22:15 GMT 1
I've recently cancelled my dd to super blues. Haven't had an correspondence in years unless I have sent them a question. They had the wrong address stored despite sending it 4 years ago. The club don't support them by offering discount or loyalty points anymore so will donate my money elsewhere I'm afraid that's how I feel. Any bonuses of membership seem to have been eroded recently, there appears to be no named leader or leadership at the moment. For me, this is the last straw. I am so disappointed with this decision by a group I have supported and helped over the years.
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Post by ssshrew on Oct 6, 2017 9:48:52 GMT 1
Is there no one from the SBs prepared to make a statement?
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Post by davycrockett on Oct 6, 2017 10:00:19 GMT 1
Will be a shame if SB doesn't continue to flourish so soon after the sad loss of Chris... If anyone is on the committee or knows someone on the committee you need to get together, have a chat and make a clear statement one way or the other.... We don't know what their stance is, just a few rumours on here which have suddenly become fact in JT and ssshrew and others minds...
I want to know the facts before cancelling anything if only in the memory of Chris and his hard work making Super Blues what so successful in recent years
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Post by ssshrew on Oct 6, 2017 10:03:19 GMT 1
I am waiting until I see someone at Walsall but let's just say I am not optimistic.
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Post by davycrockett on Oct 6, 2017 10:06:44 GMT 1
I am waiting until I see someone at Walsall but let's just say I am not optimistic. Hopefully you'll give us a full report
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Post by ssshrew on Oct 6, 2017 10:07:57 GMT 1
If I see them and they answer me I will.
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Post by Dancin on Oct 6, 2017 10:21:54 GMT 1
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Post by ssshrew on Oct 6, 2017 10:23:54 GMT 1
I suspect so but it's well out of date now.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Oct 6, 2017 10:47:07 GMT 1
Hi guys we have always said this is an emotive issue. Some support, some don’t understand what it is we are trying to achieve and some don’t agree with a return to standing. We have never pushed for a donation and I understand that the Superblues can’t donate as they have some committee who are against..... which is understandable. That doesn’t mean we should stop supporting the superblues they do a massive amount of good for the club. What's understandable? Can you give us more information on that? When you say "against" you mean they are against the area of the ground being converted? Not that they're not arsed either way but they are actually against this happening? What reasons have they given? I've just checked the website for past projects and the like but there doesn't seem to be anything listed. What has the SB's done in the past? And I gather what the SB's has contributed towards previously has had an impact and benefited all Town fans? Is that the case?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2017 11:37:49 GMT 1
We need to calm down a bit . What we don't want is for the SP,OSC,SB's and any other supporters organisation kicking boot holes out of one another for supposed failure , or otherwise , in supporting the safe standing initiative . Let's see what the SB's come up with first of all as to why they have made a decision not to support safe standing .Lets consider the reasons when they eventually come to light.
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Post by ssshrew on Oct 6, 2017 12:26:35 GMT 1
To be fair I don’t think this is other organisations commenting on what has happened. It is more members of the SBs voicing their concerns. Certainly I am speaking as an individual on this matter.
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Post by Dancin on Oct 6, 2017 12:56:02 GMT 1
We need to calm down a bit . What we don't want is for the SP,OSC,SB's and any other supporters organisation kicking boot holes out of one another for supposed failure , or otherwise , in supporting the safe standing initiative . Let's see what the SB's come up with first of all as to why they have made a decision not to support safe standing .Lets consider the reasons when they eventually come to light. I agree with you but it's been over 24 hours since this issue/rumour broke and as I understand it there has been no official response from the SB? I assume there's a nominated spokesperson for them like there is for other town supporters organisations?
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