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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2017 13:32:46 GMT 1
To be fair I donโt think this is other organisations commenting on what has happened. It is more members of the SBs voicing their concerns. Certainly I am speaking as an individual on this matter. I fully understand your point . I would like to see what the SB's come up with and,as Dancin says , 24 hours to come up with a response and no comment leads me to believe that perhaps they are working on a considered defence of their decision ? Whatever , no doubt truth will out as they say . Lets wait and see .
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Post by trojanskin on Oct 6, 2017 13:41:09 GMT 1
Isnt BC on the committee for the SB?
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Post by ssshrew on Oct 6, 2017 14:09:24 GMT 1
He is certainly advising them on matters.
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Post by bellemoon on Oct 6, 2017 15:16:36 GMT 1
Although I have read this message board for many years I have never posted, but having read some of the things said on here about Super Blues I felt compelled to. Super Blues have a small committee who work very hard raising money for your football club, voluntarily, the majority have full time jobs so its not so easy to just put out statements at the drop of a hat. After the very sad and unexpected passing of Chris Smith who was the driving force they had to re group and make decisions about the future of Super Blues and all decided to carry on in memory of Chris. At the very beginning of Safe Standing several Super Blues members contacted them and said they would withdraw their memberships if they gave money to the safe standing campaign now members are saying they have cancelled or are going to, this makes me believe they are totally damned if they do and damned if they don't. As a Super Blues Member I respect other members choices but I shall carry on supporting them as I know they raise a lot of money for my club, and out of respect for Chris Smith.
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Post by ssshrew on Oct 6, 2017 16:10:54 GMT 1
Thanks for that explanation. Sadly they will be damned if they do and damned if they donโt. However, I feel very sad that some members felt they had to blackmail the committee into not supporting fellow fans in this way.
I can respect their views of course but have to say itโs not the type of group I want to belong to any more if thatโs what goes on. If I had known in advance that this is what was going on I would have contacted them and said I would withdraw my membership if they didnโt contribute!!!! As it is they will lose out either way. Having worked hard for the group in the past and supported events they have held I feel very let down by this.
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Post by thesensationaljt on Oct 6, 2017 17:05:27 GMT 1
9 weeks isn't "the drop of a hat".
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Post by WATR on Oct 6, 2017 17:06:41 GMT 1
Not very good that arguably the most prominent STFC supporters' group will, at the behest of a couple of individuals, refuse to back something supported by the vast majority of fans.
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Post by mattmw on Oct 6, 2017 18:46:40 GMT 1
Although I have read this message board for many years I have never posted, but having read some of the things said on here about Super Blues I felt compelled to. Super Blues have a small committee who work very hard raising money for your football club, voluntarily, the majority have full time jobs so its not so easy to just put out statements at the drop of a hat. After the very sad and unexpected passing of Chris Smith who was the driving force they had to re group and make decisions about the future of Super Blues and all decided to carry on in memory of Chris. At the very beginning of Safe Standing several Super Blues members contacted them and said they would withdraw their memberships if they gave money to the safe standing campaign now members are saying they have cancelled or are going to, this makes me believe they are totally damned if they do and damned if they don't. As a Super Blues Member I respect other members choices but I shall carry on supporting them as I know they raise a lot of money for my club, and out of respect for Chris Smith. Thanks for the explanation really helpful. I certainly feel strongly itโs not right asking fans to make ground improvements, which should fall to the football authorities and club to fund. And as such totally support the Super Blues stance on this Various reports into ground safety - most significantly the original Hillisborough report by Justice Taylor, said that ground improvements around spectator safety shouldnโt be funded by fans. Thatโs a stance I stand by, in part for situations like this that potentially put fan groups who support safe standing up against fans that are less sure or who oppose it. A national policy and funding to support safe standing is whatโs needed. Fan led campaigns are sadly just tinkering at the edges and allowing football authorities to pass the buck on this subject I did rather fear this would happen with the campaign and find it really hard to see really top fans with a long history of supporting the club falling out over this We all want to see a realistic programme of introducing ways in which people can enjoy the match day experience including safe standing, but letโs focus our efforts on the football authorities to make it happen, not blaming those at clubs like ours that do so much to raise funds and keep things ticking over
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Post by theshrews81 on Oct 6, 2017 19:14:10 GMT 1
Although I have read this message board for many years I have never posted, but having read some of the things said on here about Super Blues I felt compelled to. Super Blues have a small committee who work very hard raising money for your football club, voluntarily, the majority have full time jobs so its not so easy to just put out statements at the drop of a hat. After the very sad and unexpected passing of Chris Smith who was the driving force they had to re group and make decisions about the future of Super Blues and all decided to carry on in memory of Chris. At the very beginning of Safe Standing several Super Blues members contacted them and said they would withdraw their memberships if they gave money to the safe standing campaign now members are saying they have cancelled or are going to, this makes me believe they are totally damned if they do and damned if they don't. As a Super Blues Member I respect other members choices but I shall carry on supporting them as I know they raise a lot of money for my club, and out of respect for Chris Smith. Thanks for the explanation really helpful. I certainly feel strongly itโs not right asking fans to make ground improvements, which should fall to the football authorities and club to fund. And as such totally support the Super Blues stance on this Various reports into ground safety - most significantly the original Hillisborough report by Justice Taylor, said that ground improvements around spectator safety shouldnโt be funded by fans. Thatโs a stance I stand by, in part for situations like this that potentially put fan groups who support safe standing up against fans that are less sure or who oppose it. A national policy and funding to support safe standing is whatโs needed. Fan led campaigns are sadly just tinkering at the edges and allowing football authorities to pass the buck on this subject I did rather fear this would happen with the campaign and find it really hard to see really top fans with a long history of supporting the club falling out over this We all want to see a realistic programme of introducing ways in which people can enjoy the match day experience including safe standing, but letโs focus our efforts on the football authorities to make it happen, not blaming those at clubs like ours that do so much to raise funds and keep things ticking over Taking your top point. Do you condone the Super Blues then for funding other ground improvements? Also, I woukd have liked to have seen my SB funding go towards this. For the last 3 years I haven't been informed of where my money has gone. At least the OSC and Supporters Parliament have done something to support me and my family.
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Post by WATR on Oct 6, 2017 20:09:57 GMT 1
I certainly feel strongly itโs not right asking fans to make ground improvements, which should fall to the football authorities and club to fund. And as such totally support the Super Blues stance on this Surely the whole point of the Super Blues is that they pay for certain ground improvements, so it's hardly as if they've taken a principled stand against it. Seems they've just been held to ransom by a couple of moaners who don't want to move 5 seats away from where they are.
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Post by mattmw on Oct 6, 2017 20:17:43 GMT 1
I'm not aware that the Super Blues have previously contributed to any of the essential safety aspects of the ground, but do stand to be corrected.
Items the Taylor report outlined as being essential for fan safety was seating and terracing; walkways and gates; turnstyles CCTV and crowd management technology, and steward training all of which Justice Taylor suggested should be funded by football clubs through things like the Football Foundation (its had various guises since 1990)
I think the closest the Super Blues have come to funding safety measures was the extendable tunnel the players walk out of, rather than anything around core safety which is what safe standing is.
I really want to see safe standing come in not just at our ground, but around the football league but lets not go blaming the Super Blues if it it doesn't want to contribute. The FA earns ยฃ4 million every time a Premier League match gets shown on tv, 10 minutes coverage could pay for the pilot at the ground and have cash left over. Football League, FA, Football Foundation and other official bodies haven't paid a penny towards the project - lets focus our efforts at getting cash out of them not knocking fans who do lots of great work for the club and us supporters
Its looking like some of our fans want to see them held to the fire for this and that ain't the type of thing I like to see happening through the club I love
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Post by ssshrew on Oct 6, 2017 20:52:43 GMT 1
I donโt want them held to fire over this. I am sure they will continue to do a lot of good but it just wonโt be for me personally any more. Iโm just not happy with the way it has been handled. They obviously knew some of their members werenโt happy but they must have known that some others backed the scheme. A difficult position to be in.
The decision is made and for me thatโs the end of it.
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Post by suttonshrew on Oct 6, 2017 22:16:47 GMT 1
Hi guys we have always said this is an emotive issue. Some support, some donโt understand what it is we are trying to achieve and some donโt agree with a return to standing. We have never pushed for a donation and I understand that the Superblues canโt donate as they have some committee who are against..... which is understandable. That doesnโt mean we should stop supporting the superblues they do a massive amount of good for the club. What's understandable? Can you give us more information on that? When you say "against" you mean they are against the area of the ground being converted? Not that they're not arsed either way but they are actually against this happening? What reasons have they given? I've just checked the website for past projects and the like but there doesn't seem to be anything listed. What has the SB's done in the past? And I gather what the SB's has contributed towards previously has had an impact and benefited all Town fans? Is that the case? I think what im trying to say..... badly ...... is that there is a huge swing in opinion from one person to the next, and i don't for one second want to hold that against anyone. Ive been taken back by how passionate people are for this but have also been on the receiving end of people who have been totally against this as TBH has said. There are various opinions, not just yes for safe standing or not, some don't agree with its location, some don't want to move, some dont believe the club should be contributing while others think they should be paying for it all.... others just aren't interested. why they have refused to contribute i dont know, thats for their committee to answer.
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Post by thesensationaljt on Oct 6, 2017 23:15:02 GMT 1
What's understandable? Can you give us more information on that? When you say "against" you mean they are against the area of the ground being converted? Not that they're not arsed either way but they are actually against this happening? What reasons have they given? I've just checked the website for past projects and the like but there doesn't seem to be anything listed. What has the SB's done in the past? And I gather what the SB's has contributed towards previously has had an impact and benefited all Town fans? Is that the case? why they have refused to contribute i dont know, thats for their committee to answer.
Eventually..........My next contribution which would have gone to the SB, will go to safe standing.
The truth is, safe standing in England and Wales is coming, and that's a fact. It's already allowed abroad, it's already allowed in Scotland. Will we be fust in England and Wales? Dunno. If it is us, do we want to be leaders, or play catch up.
P.S. Sorry if it makes me look stubborn, I'm not usually.
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Post by davycrockett on Oct 7, 2017 8:19:41 GMT 1
I'm not aware that the Super Blues have previously contributed to any of the essential safety aspects of the ground, but do stand to be corrected. Items the Taylor report outlined as being essential for fan safety was seating and terracing; walkways and gates; turnstyles CCTV and crowd management technology, and steward training all of which Justice Taylor suggested should be funded by football clubs through things like the Football Foundation (its had various guises since 1990) I think the closest the Super Blues have come to funding safety measures was the extendable tunnel the players walk out of, rather than anything around core safety which is what safe standing is. I really want to see safe standing come in not just at our ground, but around the football league but lets not go blaming the Super Blues if it it doesn't want to contribute. The FA earns ยฃ4 million every time a Premier League match gets shown on tv, 10 minutes coverage could pay for the pilot at the ground and have cash left over. Football League, FA, Football Foundation and other official bodies haven't paid a penny towards the project - lets focus our efforts at getting cash out of them not knocking fans who do lots of great work for the club and us supporters Its looking like some of our fans want to see them held to the fire for this and that ain't the type of thing I like to see happening through the club I love Installing then widening the gates in Superblues Way and providing a safe surface and lighting....(This was originally a footpath round the ground with no access) Your posts always make a lot of sense BUT the reference to football clubs an authorities funding safety measures I would agree in principle but don't agree this project has anything to do with safety (save it has to pass safety criteria...and the name safe standing is used) The safe standing project isn't about improving safety in any way save the tag ' safe standing' that has been used for rail seating. Our project is if you like replacing the safe seating with safe standing to improve the match day experience for those who want to stand and improve the atmosphere by providing an area where singers can congregate.....no benefit to the club financially but a fans led project solely for the improved match day experience they will enjoy.... Its also for the benefit of football fans of other clubs again to replace the existing safe seating with what the fans want safe standing hence the support from other fans groups ( not clubs) This isn't going to make me very popular but some fans are criticising others for holding Super Blues to randsome by threatening to cancel their subscription if they support Safe Standing then doing the same if they don't... Shame, I'm happy to look at the wider picture and let them continue to do what they've always done raising funds and supporting 'our' football club
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Post by ssshrew on Oct 7, 2017 8:51:07 GMT 1
No I'm not holding them to ransom because I didn't tell them which way to go before the event. I have made my decision based on the way they have conducted the decision and it's not my way. Also I really don't think they will miss me to be honest. I'm not that important.
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Post by ssshrew on Oct 7, 2017 9:02:41 GMT 1
I'm not aware that the Super Blues have previously contributed to any of the essential safety aspects of the ground, but do stand to be corrected. Items the Taylor report outlined as being essential for fan safety was seating and terracing; walkways and gates; turnstyles CCTV and crowd management technology, and steward training all of which Justice Taylor suggested should be funded by football clubs through things like the Football Foundation (its had various guises since 1990) I think the closest the Super Blues have come to funding safety measures was the extendable tunnel the players walk out of, rather than anything around core safety which is what safe standing is. I really want to see safe standing come in not just at our ground, but around the football league but lets not go blaming the Super Blues if it it doesn't want to contribute. The FA earns ยฃ4 million every time a Premier League match gets shown on tv, 10 minutes coverage could pay for the pilot at the ground and have cash left over. Football League, FA, Football Foundation and other official bodies haven't paid a penny towards the project - lets focus our efforts at getting cash out of them not knocking fans who do lots of great work for the club and us supporters Its looking like some of our fans want to see them held to the fire for this and that ain't the type of thing I like to see happening through the club I love Installing then widening the gates in Superblues Way and providing a safe surface and lighting....(This was originally a footpath round the ground with no access) Your posts always make a lot of sense BUT the reference to football clubs an authorities funding safety measures I would agree in principle but don't agree this project has anything to do with safety (save it has to pass safety criteria...and the name safe standing is used) The safe standing project isn't about improving safety in any way save the tag ' safe standing' that has been used for rail seating. Our project is if you like replacing the safe seating with safe standing to improve the match day experience for those who want to stand and improve the atmosphere by providing an area where singers can congregate.....no benefit to the club financially but a fans led project solely for the improved match day experience they will enjoy.... Its also for the benefit of football fans of other clubs again to replace the existing safe seating with what the fans want safe standing hence the support from other fans groups ( not clubs) This isn't going to make me very popular but some fans are criticising others for holding Super Blues to randsome by threatening to cancel their subscription if they support Safe Standing then doing the same if they don't... Shame, I'm happy to look at the wider picture and let them continue to do what they've always done raising funds and supporting 'our' football club Forgot to say in my previous post thanks for outlining the projects. I wanted to but you have phrased it all much better than I could.
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Post by davycrockett on Oct 7, 2017 9:06:41 GMT 1
No I'm not holding them to ransom because I didn't tell them which way to go before the event. I have made my decision based on the way they have conducted the decision and it's not my way. Also I really don't think they will miss me to be honest. I'm not that important. But we don't know what they've decided only hearsay.... I'm missing you already (One Town Family) and I'm nothing to do with Super Blues ๐
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Post by ssshrew on Oct 7, 2017 9:18:44 GMT 1
Oh thank you !!!! There is a report earlier in this thread stating what happened at the meeting though.
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Post by davycrockett on Oct 7, 2017 9:33:16 GMT 1
Oh thank you !!!! There is a report earlier in this thread stating what happened at the meeting though. Don't think bellemoon is claiming to be a spokesperson for Superblues just what he's heard and always refers to them as 'they' not we or us....someone who thinks SB do a great job ๐ There should be a statement though and I agree Superblues need to weigh up what the majority of their members feel not just a couple who are affected....A decision based on a couple of angry self important fans shouldn't be made .. a bit like Northwestman and the drum ๐ Its the lack of a statement after 3 days of debate on here that I find a little conceited, is their anything on other social media?
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Post by mattmw on Oct 7, 2017 9:40:28 GMT 1
I'm not aware that the Super Blues have previously contributed to any of the essential safety aspects of the ground, but do stand to be corrected. Items the Taylor report outlined as being essential for fan safety was seating and terracing; walkways and gates; turnstyles CCTV and crowd management technology, and steward training all of which Justice Taylor suggested should be funded by football clubs through things like the Football Foundation (its had various guises since 1990) I think the closest the Super Blues have come to funding safety measures was the extendable tunnel the players walk out of, rather than anything around core safety which is what safe standing is. I really want to see safe standing come in not just at our ground, but around the football league but lets not go blaming the Super Blues if it it doesn't want to contribute. The FA earns ยฃ4 million every time a Premier League match gets shown on tv, 10 minutes coverage could pay for the pilot at the ground and have cash left over. Football League, FA, Football Foundation and other official bodies haven't paid a penny towards the project - lets focus our efforts at getting cash out of them not knocking fans who do lots of great work for the club and us supporters Its looking like some of our fans want to see them held to the fire for this and that ain't the type of thing I like to see happening through the club I love Installing then widening the gates in Superblues Way and providing a safe surface and lighting....(This was originally a footpath round the ground with no access) Your posts always make a lot of sense BUT the reference to football clubs an authorities funding safety measures I would agree in principle but don't agree this project has anything to do with safety (save it has to pass safety criteria...and the name safe standing is used) The safe standing project isn't about improving safety in any way save the tag ' safe standing' that has been used for rail seating. Our project is if you like replacing the safe seating with safe standing to improve the match day experience for those who want to stand and improve the atmosphere by providing an area where singers can congregate.....no benefit to the club financially but a fans led project solely for the improved match day experience they will enjoy.... Its also for the benefit of football fans of other clubs again to replace the existing safe seating with what the fans want safe standing hence the support from other fans groups ( not clubs) This isn't going to make me very popular but some fans are criticising others for holding Super Blues to randsome by threatening to cancel their subscription if they support Safe Standing then doing the same if they don't... Shame, I'm happy to look at the wider picture and let them continue to do what they've always done raising funds and supporting 'our' football club Good point about the Super Blues way. Good on them for helping sort it out but personally I still find the clubs attitude to spending any money on that is still a disgrace. We really should have to self fund getting to the ground safely I certainly take the point safe standing is as much about fan experience as a safety issue, but as you yourself say it will still need the safety advisory group and council to give it a safety certificate, and Iโm just uncomfortable with the football authorities and clubs in general seemingly leaving it up to fans to fund Ultimately if, as we hope, this is rolled out across the leagues especially in away ends it will very much be a crowd safety issue and football authorities are the ones we need to be lobbying to get it done and funded, not relying on crowdfunding to do it
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Post by ssshrew on Oct 7, 2017 9:53:30 GMT 1
Oh thank you !!!! There is a report earlier in this thread stating what happened at the meeting though. Don't think bellemoon is claiming to be a spokesperson for Superblues just what he's heard and always refers to them as 'they' not we or us....someone who thinks SB do a great job ๐ There should be a statement though and I agree Superblues need to weigh up what the majority of their members feel not just a couple who are affected....A decision based on a couple of angry self important fans shouldn't be made .. a bit like Northwestman and the drum ๐ Its the lack of a statement after 3 days of debate on here that I find a little conceited, is their anything on other social media? You could be right about that. I don't know about other social media as I don't belong to any. I used to be able to look at the public Facebook page but not post on it. Now even that blanks out when I try to look. I would have thought that someone on here would have put a link up if there wa anything though. A lot on here do both here and Facebook.
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Post by ssshrew on Oct 7, 2017 9:59:08 GMT 1
Installing then widening the gates in Superblues Way and providing a safe surface and lighting....(This was originally a footpath round the ground with no access) Your posts always make a lot of sense BUT the reference to football clubs an authorities funding safety measures I would agree in principle but don't agree this project has anything to do with safety (save it has to pass safety criteria...and the name safe standing is used) The safe standing project isn't about improving safety in any way save the tag ' safe standing' that has been used for rail seating. Our project is if you like replacing the safe seating with safe standing to improve the match day experience for those who want to stand and improve the atmosphere by providing an area where singers can congregate.....no benefit to the club financially but a fans led project solely for the improved match day experience they will enjoy.... Its also for the benefit of football fans of other clubs again to replace the existing safe seating with what the fans want safe standing hence the support from other fans groups ( not clubs) This isn't going to make me very popular but some fans are criticising others for holding Super Blues to randsome by threatening to cancel their subscription if they support Safe Standing then doing the same if they don't... Shame, I'm happy to look at the wider picture and let them continue to do what they've always done raising funds and supporting 'our' football club Good point about the Super Blues way. Good on them for helping sort it out but personally I still find the clubs attitude to spending any money on that is still a disgrace. We really should have to self fund getting to the ground safely I certainly take the point safe standing is as much about fan experience as a safety issue, but as you yourself say it will still need the safety advisory group and council to give it a safety certificate, and Iโm just uncomfortable with the football authorities and clubs in general seemingly leaving it up to fans to fund Ultimately if, as we hope, this is rolled out across the leagues especially in away ends it will very much be a crowd safety issue and football authorities are the ones we need to be lobbying to get it done and funded, not relying on crowdfunding to do it I totally agree with you about the principles involved. In an ideal world the footballing authorities together with the club would be sorting this out. However, they are not and someone had to take the initiative. I am just so proud it is little old Shrewsbury and its fans instead of someone else. The club is proud too and have made a donation. I hope that we are successful so that other smaller clubs can follow us. I won't use it, far too old!, but I am happy to support our younger fans who will be here long after I am gone. As I say, I totally accept and agree with your points. It's just the way the world is at the moment.
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Post by DulwichShrew on Oct 7, 2017 11:07:38 GMT 1
Sad that Superblues can't support this after all the other good work and fundraising they have done for the club. This, together with erosion of any benefits from SB membership (e.g no longer getting additional loyalty points) means that I too am going to cancel my direct debit after 6-7 yrs membership and will make another donation to safe standing in its place.
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Post by thesensationaljt on Oct 7, 2017 11:25:04 GMT 1
Very strange word DC used earlier, "threaten". I don't think any Juan has been threatened. Without looking it up, I believe it's meaning is cause fizzical harm. I haven't "threatened" anything, I've already done it. I also wrote "regards", in my resignation e-mail. Not something that Ronnie and Reggie did in their letter to Jack "the hat" Mcvitie.
I have no idea what path the SB are taking now. I don't know who's on the committee. I assumed The Scarlet Pimpernel was chairperson. I respect the fact that they have to get organised after the sad passing of Chris, but some sort of statement about their intentions would have been appreciated.
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Post by rylehu on Oct 17, 2017 10:54:32 GMT 1
Target is done! Well done everyone!
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Post by gillscharlie on Oct 17, 2017 10:58:16 GMT 1
A massive well done, and thank you, to the people who worked tirelessly to get this going. In ten years time when most clubs have rail seating - you'll be remembered as pioneers!
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Post by BelleVueShrew on Oct 18, 2017 21:50:46 GMT 1
A massive well done, and thank you, to the people who worked tirelessly to get this going. In ten years time when most clubs have rail seating - you'll be remembered as pioneers! Thanks gillscharlie for your kind words and support from the beginning once we had announced our intentions. Your words were among those I quoted in support of Safe Standing at the Supporters Parliament official launch.
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Post by davycrockett on Oct 19, 2017 9:55:02 GMT 1
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Post by razzledazzle on Oct 24, 2017 23:41:52 GMT 1
Nice Italian article here tinyurl.com/y97nq7crA VERY rough translation [with thanks to Google Translate]: New Meadow: The name of a third-tier English stadium that will not mean much to many but that will remain in the history of English fandom this year. The hosts, long-established Shrewsbury Town FC, will soon have the burden and the honour of being the first club in England to (re)introduce standing seats in their own facility. Fans, in collaboration with the club and helped by some sponsors, but mainly supported by the skills of Tifosy (an Anglo-Italian company offering crowdfunding in football services), have collected 65 thousand pounds to fund what is a real pilot project. In England, in fact, at the beginning of the 1990s the terraces were eliminated in all major championship grounds. The transformation was carried out on the British Government's decision following the Hillsborough tragedy on April 15, 1989, in which 96 people died suffocating at the Sheffield stadium. Following the massacre, English press and politics set their faces against the world of hooligans and in general the tyranny of tyranny. Within a few years, the main body of fans disappeared from the stadiums and the terraces were covered with seats. Only in the decades following the tenacity of so many fans and relatives of the victims was able to shed light on what really happened: a ruling last year made it clear that South Yorkshire police were responsible for the catastrophic management of the game and the subsequent corruption of testimonies in order to self-assert in the public process. The Shrewsbury venture is an eco-novelty, because for the first time since then, an English club will set up a ground to stand after Celtic which has become a bellwether in the United Kingdom making one for the fans of the Green Brigade. However, a Safe Standing Area, as it's easy to guess from the name, is quite different from the terraces of days gone by. While the fans first sat on rough steels of concrete, equipped with scarce or non-existent protection systems, modern standing stands were specially designed to support security standards. The particular model adopted in England is called rail-seat and has a barrier on each row to avoid the avalanche effect. However, it is not the only possible one: in Germany, for example, there are widespread sectors similar to old terraces and areas with retractable seats. Many Premier League clubs, including Chelsea, Tottenham and West Ham, have expressed their wish to create such a sector in order to revitalize the atmosphere within almost silent grounds. However, blocking them is the rules of major championships that the authorities are discussing, but for the time being, they are forbidden to make places to stand. Shrewsbury has a free hand because it is in the third tier (League One) and in recent years it has not been for three seasons in the top two. The 550 rail-seats, to which the donations of more than a thousand local fans and the whole of Britain will contribute, will serve to make the New Meadow feel warmer, as well as to demonstrate to institutions that the return of the seats can only bring benefits to English football.
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