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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2015 19:14:15 GMT 1
Just catching up with this thread and I have to say that some comments such as those from Downie and Billynomates are more than a little rude. AJ (to be fair) can be a little annoying at times, but lets get things into perspective here; he is 70 odd years old and living in deepest Devon looking after his 100 year old mother, maybe you two would be happy to just dump your parents into the nearest residential home as soon as you can, but obviously Jack doesn't see life like that. His choice is family first, STFC somewhere further down and I for one agree with him. This board is no doubt his main connection with the club and if he has spare time during his care considerations and wants to comment on here I applaud him for wanting to be involved. At least he isn't repeating pretty much the same bloody sentence over and over again (In my opinion ..................) (Good luck ...............). Ring any bells? In my opinion that is a great post. Well done neilsalop.
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Feb 16, 2015 19:30:39 GMT 1
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Post by bobbytheblock19er on Feb 16, 2015 19:30:39 GMT 1
There is no point slating other fans for not turning up . Last season left a lot of scars for some people. Fair play to the club they've tried to put it right , but fans who are staying away are just something the club will have to live with . All the team can keep doing is winning . Away attendances must be well down on the last few seasons . For me it's not a massive concern .
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2015 19:38:41 GMT 1
Figures for Wolves, Sheff United and Coventry alone cannot be far off the total away attendance expected for a whole L2 season. With these boosting average total attendances significantly is it possible that there isn't a drop at all in the home end?
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Feb 16, 2015 20:09:49 GMT 1
Post by Matster on Feb 16, 2015 20:09:49 GMT 1
People have suggested an incentive to get people in to the club for the last few games, how could that be achieved? They can't reduce prices without upsetting those with flexi tickets. So perhaps it could be buy two game tickets and get a 50% discount on someone else coming with them. What other incentives could be possible?
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Feb 16, 2015 20:17:54 GMT 1
Post by vanner on Feb 16, 2015 20:17:54 GMT 1
People have suggested an incentive to get people in to the club for the last few games, how could that be achieved? They can't reduce prices without upsetting those with flexi tickets. So perhaps it could be buy two game tickets and get a 50% discount on someone else coming with them. What other incentives could be possible? There's 7 games left so £10 a ticket or £5 a ticket would be fine. No one with flexi tickets is going to any worse off, if anything they might be able to make 1 more game.
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Feb 16, 2015 20:26:40 GMT 1
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Post by ipswichshrews on Feb 16, 2015 20:26:40 GMT 1
Last season's offer for ST holders to buy extra tickets for £5 boosted the attendances. Try it again?
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Feb 16, 2015 20:39:56 GMT 1
Post by callum on Feb 16, 2015 20:39:56 GMT 1
Foxie's idea of print at home tickets is a good one. An added 'pain in the backside' of attending the Meadow is having to pick up a pre-ordered ticket (as not wanting to pay extra for postage or for only deciding on going at last minute) and the fact it has taken up to 25/30 mins to pick up that ticket once at the ground. I cannot understand why you have to wait so long to pick up a pre-ordered ticket. I have ALWAYS managed it almost instantaneously. I've also had to queue to pick up tickets for over 20 mins, the one time we had to line up to the players entrance, which was a total shambles. If it wasn't for my son i could easily have walked away. I also didn't re new my season ticket this season, and probably won't again, just pick the games i go to.
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Feb 16, 2015 20:58:46 GMT 1
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Post by buryshrew on Feb 16, 2015 20:58:46 GMT 1
I cannot understand why you have to wait so long to pick up a pre-ordered ticket. I have ALWAYS managed it almost instantaneously. I've also had to queue to pick up tickets for over 20 mins, the one time we had to line up to the players entrance, which was a total shambles. If it wasn't for my son i could easily have walked away. I also didn't re new my season ticket this season, and probably won't again, just pick the games i go to. I'm another one - long queue to collect tickets on a couple of occasions, doubly irritating when also collecting parking ticket for the garden centre, so quite convoluted way to get parked up and in to the match. This only happens when I decide to go later in the week, when it's too late to get tickets posted, but as others say it doesn't encourage you to make a last minute decision to go if you are wavering. Looking forward to Tranmere at the weekend, I'll roll up, straight into the car park right next to the ground, tickets for me and the lads for £27 and a chippy two minutes walk away for pre-match nosh. Generally enjoy a better atmosphere in the midst of the away support as well, hence I pick and choose which home matches according to the appeal of the opposition, and go to as many away matches as I can reasonably drive to as well as fitting in a variety of Saturday morning activities. If many ex season ticket holders adopt a similar outlook with home matches you don't have to look far to understand the difference in crowd numbers between Southend and Wimbledon.
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Post by Shrewsfan1985 on Feb 16, 2015 21:56:52 GMT 1
Just catching up with this thread and I have to say that some comments such as those from Downie and Billynomates are more than a little rude. AJ (to be fair) can be a little annoying at times, but lets get things into perspective here; he is 70 odd years old and living in deepest Devon looking after his 100 year old mother, maybe you two would be happy to just dump your parents into the nearest residential home as soon as you can, but obviously Jack doesn't see life like that. His choice is family first, STFC somewhere further down and I for one agree with him. This board is no doubt his main connection with the club and if he has spare time during his care considerations and wants to comment on here I applaud him for wanting to be involved. At least he isn't repeating pretty much the same bloody sentence over and over again (In my opinion ..................) (Good luck ...............). Ring any bells? That is a Cracking post by NeilSalop.
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Feb 16, 2015 22:51:43 GMT 1
Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Feb 16, 2015 22:51:43 GMT 1
The whole "It is only a 10-15 minute walk" line is a little tedious.
A lot of people are put off by the "no parking" signs everywhere.
Plus it's not a nice walk from most directions, especially in the dark.
You're either splashing your way through mud under a railway then battling nettles alongside a metal fence, or you are dicing with death trying to crossthe road by meol eroundabout with epople and cars coming and going in every direction, or you're bobbing along down Oteley Road, previously in the absolute pitch black on a slippy verge.
So yeah - it's not a long walk, but it is if it's dark, or wet, or if you're young, old, or have any sort of health issues it's a pain. I missed several games last season because I had an injury and simply could not get there - despite having a season ticket.
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Post by mattmw on Feb 16, 2015 23:31:08 GMT 1
The whole "It is only a 10-15 minute walk" line is a little tedious. A lot of people are put off by the "no parking" signs everywhere. Plus it's not a nice walk from most directions, especially in the dark. You're either splashing your way through mud under a railway then battling nettles alongside a metal fence, or you are dicing with death trying to crossthe road by meol eroundabout with epople and cars coming and going in every direction, or you're bobbing along down Oteley Road, previously in the absolute pitch black on a slippy verge. So yeah - it's not a long walk, but it is if it's dark, or wet, or if you're young, old, or have any sort of health issues it's a pain. I missed several games last season because I had an injury and simply could not get there - despite having a season ticket. Had a relative who had an op a few seasons ago and was bit unsteady on their feet for a few weeks. Rang club and they let me drop them off at the ground, and let them sit inside until I'd gone and parked the car and rejoin them before taking a seat in the stand Well worth asking if your in a similar position and something the club should promote more as they were really helpful As a few others have said if there was more happening pre, and possibly post game a pick up and drop off system at the ground could work well. The no parking signs don't help the club much to be honest. Arranged conferences at the ground and people attending (not Salop fans) have genuinely contacted me worried there is no car park at the ground
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Feb 16, 2015 23:43:46 GMT 1
Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2015 23:43:46 GMT 1
Still mystified that people are having to queue for so long for tickets all ready paid for. Other persons with me last Saturday just walked up to the kiosk and obtained them immediately. The prepaid kiosk for tickets is always by the main entrance. When on the occasion quoted was it by the players entrance? (Chelsea maybe). I have never seen it anywhere near there.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2015 8:19:53 GMT 1
The football club have a very professional company called Radio Shropshire permanently promoting the club the length and breadth of the county and further afield. No one is ever left in any doubt as to the goings on at GM. On that basis there is no reason why the good footballing folk of Shropshire should sit at home oblivious to the successes of watching our team. What doesn't help the club, are the difficulties in getting to the ground. Every obstacle is put in the path of any prospective supporter, the main one being parking. With a huge car park rarely full, why cant the club make a larger number of spaces free, then having done this offer a concession for four/five adult/child tickets? Hey presto more bums on seats. Until very recently one of the major paths to the ground was largely overgrown making access difficult. Yesterday I am pleased to say, access was hugely improved. Is the new housing estate opposite the garden centre going to have the same parking restrictions as elsewhere on match days? Yes. It was part of the planning application.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2015 8:24:07 GMT 1
Judging by the amount of time that you spend on here talking about teddy bears, the club shop, Roland Wycherley, I'm surprised you have any time to care for your Mother AJ. You have far more posts on here than most of the other contributors, who write on here and, quite frankly, I find your incessant and mundane contributions a pain. No doubt other people feel the same. Perhaps Exeter, Plymouth or Torquay are looking for writers? And people wonder why fans don't want to attend, when posts like this make them feel really welcome
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2015 8:39:32 GMT 1
The 5 game flexi ticket came into effect from the home game vs Southend. Based on the attendance Saturday I would say that the take up for this initiative has been poor to average at best? It's been in effect all season. I find it useful and have taken it up twice. Bit annoying that you have to physically go down to get tickets with the voucher though and would be better if they have a code on them that allows online purchase.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2015 9:56:21 GMT 1
The whole "It is only a 10-15 minute walk" line is a little tedious. A lot of people are put off by the "no parking" signs everywhere. Plus it's not a nice walk from most directions, especially in the dark. You're either splashing your way through mud under a railway then battling nettles alongside a metal fence, or you are dicing with death trying to crossthe road by meol eroundabout with epople and cars coming and going in every direction, or you're bobbing along down Oteley Road, previously in the absolute pitch black on a slippy verge. So yeah - it's not a long walk, but it is if it's dark, or wet, or if you're young, old, or have any sort of health issues it's a pain. I missed several games last season because I had an injury and simply could not get there - despite having a season ticket. It’s hardly tedious and reflects how we as a society like to drive our car to the entrance of ASDA, the cinema, or the Ice rink. Of course not all people are able to walk 10 – 15 minutes, but arrangements appear to be place to help facilitate that. The well used drop off point that many a family with young children uses and I’ve used myself. The point is I know fit and healthy people who can’t be bothered with the minor inconvenience of walking to the ground. Still that’s their choice and they are the ones who are missing a good season. The next time we play Chelsea I’m sure they’ll manage is though.
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Feb 17, 2015 11:14:03 GMT 1
Post by Liam on Feb 17, 2015 11:14:03 GMT 1
Still mystified that people are having to queue for so long for tickets all ready paid for. Other persons with me last Saturday just walked up to the kiosk and obtained them immediately. The prepaid kiosk for tickets is always by the main entrance. When on the occasion quoted was it by the players entrance? (Chelsea maybe). I have never seen it anywhere near there. It's normally no problem at all, but there did seem to be some breakdown in the system around about Christmas time. There was certainly a game (possibly Burton) where the queue got moved to the players' entrance and moved very slowly, and a second one where the kiosk queue was a good 20 minutes long and seemed to be being manned by a rather stressed out looking Matt Williams. In both cases, a lot of people must have missed the kick off. Generally though, I have to say that the pick up queue is pretty efficient and rarely requires more than 1 minute queueing tops.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Feb 17, 2015 13:47:04 GMT 1
It’s hardly tedious and reflects how we as a society like to drive our car to the entrance of ASDA, the cinema, or the Ice rink. Of course not all people are able to walk 10 – 15 minutes, but arrangements appear to be place to help facilitate that. The well used drop off point that many a family with young children uses and I’ve used myself. The point is I know fit and healthy people who can’t be bothered with the minor inconvenience of walking to the ground. Still that’s their choice and they are the ones who are missing a good season. The next time we play Chelsea I’m sure they’ll manage is though. Good discussion. Makes up for you ignoring me in the pub on Friday night ;-) The drop off point only works if you have someone with the time and inclination to drop you off. It is still about a 500m walk to the west stand from there. I had no idea you could ask and be dropped off closer to the stadium. And if I didn't - you can be sure occasional fans don't. You mention Asda - the cinema - the ice rink. It might be that society has become lazy or it might be that commercial operators have become savvy to the fact that if you remove barriers to people coming then they are more likely to come. I know a couple from Oswestry who were new season ticket holders when the stadium opened but did not renew their season tickets when they stopped the Oxon park and ride bus because they could not see a way of getting to the ground. People say "Yeah but the loyal fans make it" and that's not really what we are discussing. We are discussing those who don't currently go as often. Of course those who pick and choose will pick and choose Chelsea. The question is how can we get them to pick Wimbledon in February as well.
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Post by vanner on Feb 17, 2015 14:12:29 GMT 1
Paying someone to walk from town centre to the ground stopping at every pub selling tickets would guarantee to at least to pay for itself. It might even get a few people who weren't sure about going and decide not to because they're worried about the queues at the ticket office, to buy a ticket and attend. Cash tickets delivered to the pub, happy days!
Matt Williams or the ticket office manager should read this thread. Although I'm sure they have plans in place, there are perhaps some good stories of alienated fans.
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Feb 17, 2015 14:51:21 GMT 1
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Post by shrewder on Feb 17, 2015 14:51:21 GMT 1
Shouldn't underestimate the wide range of other pastimes, sports and distractions plus live TV football have on reducing the interest in attending matches.
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Feb 17, 2015 15:06:38 GMT 1
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Post by ipswichshrews on Feb 17, 2015 15:06:38 GMT 1
Matt Williams or the ticket office manager should read this thread. Although I'm sure they have plans in place, there are perhaps some good stories of alienated fans. Someone is reading something about attendances - as there's reference to it in today's shropshire Star interview with Micky Mellon. (MM) He said: “The fans have been brilliant, home and away, since I joined and it’s important they continue to get behind us. There is a real appetite for us to do well and we want the fans here in number because it inspires us. It’s vital we get fans through the turnstiles and we will continue to work our socks off to put a team on the pitch that people want to come and watch." www.shropshirestar.com/sport/shrewsbury-town-fc/2015/02/17/its-a-squad-game-for-town-boss-micky-mellon/
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Post by ssshrew on Feb 17, 2015 15:19:07 GMT 1
AJ is a legend on this board and deserves some respect Totally agree. Haven't been on for a couple days and to be honest I find it hard to believe that fans of the same team can be so, so rude, to one of their number. Excellent response from Neil Salop and yourself. It's not easy looking after an elderly relative all the time - I found B&A quite a break when my mother needed care. To have someone criticised like this is worse than plain rude. No wonder posters have left. I think the clue to Billy.......'s post is in his user name.
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Post by billynomates on Feb 17, 2015 16:06:50 GMT 1
No its not easy looking after an elderly relative and I have done so myself so I know what it is all about. I too looked after an elderly Mother and did so for many years. AJ is welcome to make his comments but when he is making judgment as frequently as he does about a football club that he so rarely watches in the flesh, I find is taking the *.
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Post by atcham jack on Feb 17, 2015 17:11:32 GMT 1
Would never take the p**s out of such a great club which is so close to my heart, we will agree to disagree billy I have no wish to fall out with anyone let alone a town supporter, it is pleasing to read that MM wants the something as I do, increased gates, the alternative is staring RW and MM in theface.. selling players in the summer.
Assuming we go up, hopefully we may average 5500 gate, until then, all hands on deck.
Yes AJ will be up in April and October hopefully to watch town in league 2 and league 1. Yes billy I do post a lot on here' it may be a more boring place without AJ's ramblings from deepest Devon, er billy. Floreat salopia
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Post by shrewder on Feb 17, 2015 17:32:48 GMT 1
I do wonder where these fans to boost attendances are going to come from. Once a fan gets out of the habit of going to a match and find they have money in their pocket to do other things, it is extremely difficult to win them back. Yes they will come back for big one off games but more than that is difficult. Believe it will be a slow process to get fans back and obviously will depend on a continued success on the field.
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Feb 17, 2015 17:46:21 GMT 1
Post by atcham jack on Feb 17, 2015 17:46:21 GMT 1
Hopefully the Northampton game may give us a clue'.
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Post by TheFoz on Feb 17, 2015 17:50:10 GMT 1
One off pricing promotions will get fans through once but it won't mean they will carry on coming back.
Get them to enjoy the match day experience and that will get fans coming back.
Having activities for kids to do in concourses pre-match and at half time will make them enjoy the experience , even if the performance on the field is poor.
Other clubs have taken ideas with fan experience on board and I can see the club making some initial steps to try and do this.
5,000 is a good base to build on for team that's just suffered relegation to League 2.
IF we get promoted and have a good start in League 1 next season, then the attendance will start rising.
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Post by venceremos on Feb 17, 2015 17:56:56 GMT 1
Believe it will be a slow process to get fans back and obviously will depend on a continued success on the field. - which can never happen. Nobody's yet mastered the art of continued success on the field, which is probably a good thing. If we go up, I expect next season will be very tough and we'll lose a lot more games, and more heavily, than we have this season. But are there really that many missing fans to win back? We averaged what, about 5,500 home fans in L1, and it's probably about 4,700 or so this season. I'd concentrate the effort on winning new supporters throughout the county - a much bigger pool than the few hundred who've stopped coming. It's mystifying to me why there isn't more interest in watching a good team during a successful season. Maybe some like to see so-called bigger clubs turning up at the Meadow but (a) they ain't so big really and (b) the novelty wears off very quickly when your team struggles not to lose to them. Of course Mellon might work the magic again and we challenge at the top end. That would be a very pleasant surprise but I wouldn't want to pass on this season and wait to see whether that happened!
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Post by thesensationaljt on Feb 17, 2015 17:59:10 GMT 1
Judging by the amount of time that you spend on here talking about teddy bears, the club shop, Roland Wycherley, I'm surprised you have any time to care for your Mother AJ. You have far more posts on here than most of the other contributors, who write on here and, quite frankly, I find your incessant and mundane contributions a pain. No doubt other people feel the same. Perhaps Exeter, Plymouth or Torquay are looking for writers? And people wonder why fans don't want to attend, when posts like this make them feel really welcome I have to agree with you Gav. All views welcome as far as I'm concerned. You don't have to read any post if you don't want to. There are posters on here who don't attend matches at all now for various reasons, but still take an interest in the club. I only manage about 5/6 away fixtures now. Does that mean I can't have an opinion about away games? AJ is just as welcome to talk utter b******s as the rest of us. It's our RIGHT.
I'm a member of a messageboard for another sport. For some reason, every time some Juan new joined and offered an opinion, a couple of the old guard chewed their yeds off, so the new posters disappeared. The forum is now all but deserted.
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Post by callum on Feb 17, 2015 21:57:17 GMT 1
Paying someone to walk from town centre to the ground stopping at every pub selling tickets would guarantee to at least to pay for itself. It might even get a few people who weren't sure about going and decide not to because they're worried about the queues at the ticket office, to buy a ticket and attend. Cash tickets delivered to the pub, happy days! Matt Williams or the ticket office manager should read this thread. Although I'm sure they have plans in place, there are perhaps some good stories of alienated fans. And have a half in every one!!!
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