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Feb 14, 2015 21:35:51 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2015 21:35:51 GMT 1
Another poor attendance this afternoon.
The quality of football on display today was top drawer and fans who have elected to stay away are missing some of the best football I have seen at the meadows for many years.
Come on folks lets get behind them
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Feb 14, 2015 21:41:13 GMT 1
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Post by Valerioch on Feb 14, 2015 21:41:13 GMT 1
Was rather bored for large parts today
Goes to show what a routine win it was
Top professionalism and so confident we will get promoted
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Feb 14, 2015 21:49:47 GMT 1
Post by pheasant on Feb 14, 2015 21:49:47 GMT 1
I know the contributers will have lots of views from cost of living to last seasons disaster, and I for one did not renew my season ticket although I have not missed a home game yet. We should be nearer 6k and the Chelsea game showed the hanger on's will turn up and demand a ticket. So what can the club do to get bums on seats again? They can do no more on the football side, so now its all about the commercial side coming up with more attractive offers to encourage more....
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Post by Catalyst Cartel on Feb 14, 2015 21:53:03 GMT 1
Time for them to do a decent promotional offer.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Feb 14, 2015 21:56:01 GMT 1
We rather fluffed our lines with a dire draw against Wycombe with a huge amount of floating fans there.
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Feb 14, 2015 22:04:36 GMT 1
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Post by shrewder on Feb 14, 2015 22:04:36 GMT 1
Unlikely to see much of an upturn this season but promotion well may lead to a return of many lapsed season ticket holders.
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Feb 14, 2015 22:43:53 GMT 1
Post by atcham jack on Feb 14, 2015 22:43:53 GMT 1
What is the point of promo if no bugger turns up to watch. Do hope gates improve soon. Just hope rw, MW and mm are not wasting their time.
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Feb 14, 2015 23:31:16 GMT 1
Post by Slackbladder on Feb 14, 2015 23:31:16 GMT 1
I would imagine that the poor attendances are a cause for concern for the powers that be at GM. From a football point of view there is little more they can do to get bums on seats, it is so much more enjoyable to watch a team full of confidence with a squad of players as good as any Town squad I can remember in the last 25 years. With the investment made and the quality on show we should be getting at least 5,500 home fans each week IMO.
I personally have no problem with the club offering incentives in the shape of cheaper tickets to try and get more people at the matches. Looking at the remaining 7 home matches there are very few that would be attractive to the casual fan. I would advocate dropping the prices as low as commercially viable in order to get people back behind the team in the hope that some of them may be encouraged enough to consider buying season tickets for next season. This may not please some fellow season ticket holders but I feel that we need to attract people back by using a combination of decent football AND lower prices.
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Post by mattmw on Feb 14, 2015 23:38:01 GMT 1
Attendances must be a bit of a concern for next season to.
Hopefully on the back of a promotion season tickets will pick up, but its reasonably likely that should we go up we might not be as successful as this year. Mid table football might not bring the casual fan in if being top of the league doesn't
Ideally other income streams can be improved and incentives to get more through the gate can be looked at, or we might be back in the same problem of not being able to recruit the type of player we need to compete in league one we had in the last two seasons
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Feb 14, 2015 23:57:01 GMT 1
Post by champagneprince on Feb 14, 2015 23:57:01 GMT 1
I keep saying this but if people want to watch football in this town then the club need to work more closely with the council to make sure they can do so easily.
Park and ride isn't the answer. Neither is a 15 minute walk from the pub. Those people sat in their armchairs want it to be easy to get to and for it not to cost a fortune.
Take a family of 4, pay £30 for the lot, park right outside the ground, then the stadium will fill up. That family at moment have to pay a small fortune and have all the hassles of transport arrangements. People just don't want it enough and have 'better' things to spend their money on.
The club need to convince them otherwise.
A survey perhaps to the Shrewsbury population would tell us more and let's not forget that we're only looking for around 10%. More than 90% stay away for a reason and it would be interesting to know why that is?
Too old, unfit, no interest in the game, support someone else, can't afford it even if it's cheap will account for a fair amount but there's still a hefty chunk who might like to come but just don't.
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Feb 15, 2015 0:34:36 GMT 1
Post by vanner on Feb 15, 2015 0:34:36 GMT 1
I don't think reducing every single home game until the end of the season will happen. If anything a good shout might be to put the next home game at reduced prices (Northampton) and then look to build from there. The last 2/3 games will all have 6000 plus crowds anyway. I guess our average will end on about 5300 for the year. I think it's around 5000 atm.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Feb 15, 2015 0:56:56 GMT 1
I think there's a link with fewer and fewer park and ride buses.
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Feb 15, 2015 1:39:56 GMT 1
Post by napoleon4th on Feb 15, 2015 1:39:56 GMT 1
Also it looks like we are losing the Sutton nursery parking next year, that will be a problem as fans who travel a good distance to watch town use this site.
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Feb 15, 2015 2:33:37 GMT 1
Post by eggyshrew on Feb 15, 2015 2:33:37 GMT 1
Sod them leave them do what they want which is moan moan moan. I have spoken to a few old fans and they come up with the same bulls**t with no proof as usual.
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Feb 15, 2015 8:38:19 GMT 1
Post by atcham jack on Feb 15, 2015 8:38:19 GMT 1
The next parliament should consider low gates, park and ride, enticements etc, ave attendance Of 5300 is better, but there is still a fair bit that can be raised from greater use of stadium
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Feb 15, 2015 8:51:53 GMT 1
Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2015 8:51:53 GMT 1
I seem to remember that the club have submitted new planning applications for more concerts and increased parking. I cannot see that all the nimbys can object to this seeing as they now have a new supermarket on their doorstep with all the encumbent traffic. I didn't see many objectoions to that.
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Feb 15, 2015 8:56:32 GMT 1
Post by stuttgartershrew on Feb 15, 2015 8:56:32 GMT 1
I think looking to when we were last promoted, at this time of the season we're perhaps a couple of hundred down? So it's not that bad. And I suspect things will pick up towards the end of the season when (hopefully) we're closing in on promotion.
It's certainly not the football that's keeping people away. And I don't believe that this is some sort of hangover from last season, people just want to watch a winning side and that's what we have. And last was what? Just another disappointing season to go along the many that we've had to endure in the last 20 years or so (it comes with the territory being a Town fan and I don't think it keeps too many people away). So for any reason why people aren't turning up I think we need look to things off the field.
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Feb 15, 2015 8:59:06 GMT 1
Post by stuttgartershrew on Feb 15, 2015 8:59:06 GMT 1
Sod them leave them do what they want which is moan moan moan. I have spoken to a few old fans and they come up with the same bulls**t with no proof as usual. What are they saying?
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Feb 15, 2015 9:17:32 GMT 1
Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2015 9:17:32 GMT 1
Do we know how many season tickets we sold in the end? Im sure at one stage we were 700 down but later on (post Mellon's appointment and the signings) the club said sales were closer to last seasons but that could mean anything. If we were say 400 down then yesterdays crowd becomes 5,400 which seems more respectable although still not great.
Another factor is for the casual fan they have seen the price rise to £20 when it was potentially £16 last season in L1. I know a lot of people think £20 is too much for L2
I have mixed views on winning back some of the stayaways, on the one hand a one off offer may get some back and hopefully a good performance will keep them coming back. However the club shouldnt have to do anything really considering being top of the league and unbeaten at home. Im not convinced it would also keep the fans coming back anyway, if they didnt return after the performance against Chelsea then why should beating Wimbledon do it?
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Post by davycrockett on Feb 15, 2015 9:38:10 GMT 1
Dont think the club or supporters groups do enough to promote Towns 'success' on the field, with ' Fortress Meadow' not seeing a league 2 defeat for approx 40 games and things looking as positive as they possibly could for the run in we should shouting this from the roof tops,,,,,
The club need to build on this to hype up the support with help from radio Shropshire and the SS an fans groups..... Posters around town, interviews on the radio there should be real excitement around the town but apart from the loyal 4500 that turn up whatever the rest have hardly noticed the transformation thats happened this season.....
By the way how do 2 aways supporters get to park their Range Rovers at the ground when home supporters can't?
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Feb 15, 2015 9:39:24 GMT 1
I think it's interesting we're wondering why attendances are down while there's a whole thread on thanking the club for making one of only three entrances to the ground more accessible.
Sure, that's not the only reason people don't go, but stuff like that makes it difficult.
I went to the game with a 4 year old and his dad. By the time we'd got back to the car I was acutely aware it had been quite a trek for a 4 year old.
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Feb 15, 2015 9:39:55 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2015 9:39:55 GMT 1
The cost of football generally is way too high now and coupled with last season's debacle, people have not renewed season tickets and can't be bothered. They quickly find something else to do on a Saturday and then don't return.
Personally, I didn't renew for 1st time in 15 yrs, but said that I will still attend some games and see how it goes. Well, it's been brilliant and I have attended 90% of games, and it's probably been my most enjoyable season since 1994.
On the flip side, my neighbour had season ticket last year, but also didn't renew. Was chatting to him earlier this week and he said he hasn't been to a single game, has found other things to do, like watching Telford Tigers in the Ice Hockey, which is £10 a game cheaper and hasn't missed it one bit. Those are the people who need attracting back somehow, but unless we are challenging near top end of league 1 then they won't return.
I don't even think promotion will win all of them back, because there is the "seen it all before, we will come straight back down" brigade as well.
People need to remember that only 10 to 15 yrs ago, we were averaging 3500 and so the nucleus of fans is higher than that.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Feb 15, 2015 9:43:03 GMT 1
I'm not sure we've lost hardcore 40 year fans but rather those who decided to get involved around the time of the new stadium.
I had a couple of friends like that. Local business people, sovereign club members. Ended up being home and away fans for a couple of seasons.
They tried a season ticket in the west stand for a season but were amazed at how poor the experience was over there, especially after they'd lost their parking.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Feb 15, 2015 9:43:41 GMT 1
Another factor is for the casual fan they have seen the price rise to £20 when it was potentially £16 last season in L1. I know a lot of people think £20 is too much for L2 Only gut instinct but I do think this will certainly have had an impact on attendances. Football isn't cheap. Whilst plenty have the disposable income to attend football, plenty don't. And that increase won't have helped. I suspect most fans are still turning up to watch Town. Just not each and every game. Still thinks its mad mind that we're looking at attendances at around the 5000 mark and we're disappointed. Those of us who were around watching in the 80s and 90s will know what I mean...
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Feb 15, 2015 9:46:52 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2015 9:46:52 GMT 1
Another factor is for the casual fan they have seen the price rise to £20 when it was potentially £16 last season in L1. I know a lot of people think £20 is too much for L2 Only gut instinct but I do think this will certainly have had an impact on attendances. Football isn't cheap. Whilst plenty have the disposable income to attend football, plenty don't. And that increase won't have helped. I suspect most fans are still turning up to watch Town. Just not each and every game. Still thinks its mad mind that we're looking at attendances at around the 5000 mark and we're disappointed. Those of us who were around watching in the 80s and 90s will know what I mean... I remember a home game vs Peterborough once that attracted approx 1800.!
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Post by townfanincrewe on Feb 15, 2015 9:50:45 GMT 1
There is a few reasons,
Being called part time glory hunters when they do go does not help. You could sit in the pub and turn to your mate on a sat afternoon and say lets pop up the meda and watch the town. But now it takes longer, involves a bus trip and costs more so a lot just wont bother. If your not in town its not a cheep day. £20 travel £20 to get in £5.00 to park or get bus if you go on train. food drink ets. A few things could be done but think it may well just be something the club have to get used to.
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Feb 15, 2015 9:54:28 GMT 1
Post by shrewd67 on Feb 15, 2015 9:54:28 GMT 1
Nothings been won yet and we're not on the brink of promotion, mid-March, if we're still up there is the point when attendance's should start to rise quite significantly.
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Feb 15, 2015 9:57:21 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2015 9:57:21 GMT 1
There is a few reasons, Being called part time glory hunters when they do go does not help. You could sit in the pub and turn to your mate on a sat afternoon and say lets pop up the meda and watch the town. But now it takes longer, involves a bus trip and costs more so a lot just wont bother. If your not in town its not a cheep day. £20 travel £20 to get in £5.00 to park or get bus if you go on train. food drink ets. A few things could be done but think it may well just be something the club have to get used to. But attendances were lower at the Gay Meadow and so I'm not sure those are the type of supporter we have lost. I would bet most regulars from Gay Meadow are still attending and it's the new fans attracted to the Greenhous Meadow that have started to disappear again
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Feb 15, 2015 10:01:29 GMT 1
Post by shrewsace on Feb 15, 2015 10:01:29 GMT 1
The low attendances are probably due to two main factors - people who became disenchanted over the last couple of seasons still staying away, and the utter ball-ache of parking/getting to the game.
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Feb 15, 2015 10:05:49 GMT 1
Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2015 10:05:49 GMT 1
In my opinion the main reason for the current attendance figures is the loss of support following last season's shambles.
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