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Post by welshdan on Jul 8, 2014 8:42:41 GMT 1
I was a regular for many years then a season ticket holder for about 7-8 years but gave it up a few years a go due to having ankle biters that take most of my time and money!!
I always planned to change to just going to the odd game but with an hours drive, trying to find somewhere to park and the the cost of individual games i have quickly got out of the habit of going since i gave up the season ticket.
Personally i really miss going and was only saying a few days ago thati might make the effort to pop back for a couple of games but cant justify the cost against other expenditure.
It may be market rates and thats fine but as a once diehard but now casual fan i feel its just not value for money.
Will be continue to watch from a distance... thats life i suppose!
Season ticket holders dont just come out of nowhere, i started going casually, then regularly until i was hooked and became a season ticket holder, if theres no incentive to go to the odd game people are unlikely to leap straight to season ticket holders.
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Post by atcham jack on Jul 8, 2014 8:42:47 GMT 1
MATT WILLIAMS CEO. IF YOU ARE READING THIS YOU HAVE COCKED UP BIG TIME. RATHER SEE 6K GATES THAN 4K. SORT IT CEO AND QUICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2014 9:00:10 GMT 1
I was a regular for many years then a season ticket holder for about 7-8 years but gave it up a few years a go due to having ankle biters that take most of my time and money!! I always planned to change to just going to the odd game but with an hours drive, trying to find somewhere to park and the the cost of individual games i have quickly got out of the habit of going since i gave up the season ticket. Personally i really miss going and was only saying a few days ago thati might make the effort to pop back for a couple of games but cant justify the cost against other expenditure. It may be market rates and thats fine but as a once diehard but now casual fan i feel its just not value for money. Will be continue to watch from a distance... thats life i suppose! Season ticket holders dont just come out of nowhere, i started going casually, then regularly until i was hooked and became a season ticket holder, if theres no incentive to go to the odd game people are unlikely to leap straight to season ticket holders. And the worrying thing about this is that your kids may never become fans. Where’s the long term strategy to attract future fans? And I don’t mean kids for a quid.
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Post by shrewinjapan on Jul 8, 2014 9:06:36 GMT 1
Can't see many people deciding to go on impulse at £23. That's a movie and a takeaway, or it's a night out for a good few pints, or a couple of books. For 90 minutes of fairly low level football it's a lot to ask. Think there's quite a psychological effect once it goes north of £20. Even for me, a life-long fan who hasn't been able to go for a few years, if I were visiting back home I'd think twice about going if I had to cough up £23 to do so.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2014 9:18:51 GMT 1
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Post by davycrockett on Jul 8, 2014 9:22:15 GMT 1
MATT WILLIAMS CEO. IF YOU ARE READING THIS YOU HAVE COCKED UP BIG TIME. RATHER SEE 6K GATES THAN 4K. SORT IT CEO AND QUICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11 YOU REBEL
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Post by bertymax on Jul 8, 2014 9:22:20 GMT 1
Can't see many people deciding to go on impulse at £23. That's a movie and a takeaway, or it's a night out for a good few pints, or a couple of books. For 90 minutes of fairly low level football it's a lot to ask. Think there's quite a psychological effect once it goes north of £20. Even for me, a life-long fan who hasn't been able to go for a few years, if I were visiting back home I'd think twice about going if I had to cough up £23 to do so. Spot on guys, your comments mirror my own situation, have been a pretty casual fan over the past few seasons due to work/ family commitments and when I've gone to a game it's usually been a last minute decision. Our recent splurge in transfer activity had wetted my appetite but sorry, not at £23 for 4th tier football, especially when you factor all the other essentials for out of county fans such just getting into Shrewsbury.
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Post by davycrockett on Jul 8, 2014 9:23:48 GMT 1
And we're yet to see Jenny's price increases yet
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Post by BurbageShrew on Jul 8, 2014 10:12:07 GMT 1
I was a regular for many years then a season ticket holder for about 7-8 years but gave it up a few years a go due to having ankle biters that take most of my time and money!! I always planned to change to just going to the odd game but with an hours drive, trying to find somewhere to park and the the cost of individual games i have quickly got out of the habit of going since i gave up the season ticket. Personally i really miss going and was only saying a few days ago thati might make the effort to pop back for a couple of games but cant justify the cost against other expenditure. It may be market rates and thats fine but as a once diehard but now casual fan i feel its just not value for money. Will be continue to watch from a distance... thats life i suppose! Season ticket holders dont just come out of nowhere, i started going casually, then regularly until i was hooked and became a season ticket holder, if theres no incentive to go to the odd game people are unlikely to leap straight to season ticket holders. Exactly the situation I am in Dan, ST gone for 3 years, my 3 yr old to 4 matches last season (2 home, 2 away) and he loved it. Was planning to take in more this season when back in Shrops visiting the folks but think that price hike is daft. Away trips are easier most of the time and now they are also cheaper I think that is where I will be heading. Deals for kids are good but if the parents are put off paying the higher prices for themselves, as others have said, the future fans are going to be harder to find
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Post by mrbunny on Jul 8, 2014 10:19:41 GMT 1
I was a regular for many years then a season ticket holder for about 7-8 years but gave it up a few years a go due to having ankle biters that take most of my time and money!! I always planned to change to just going to the odd game but with an hours drive, trying to find somewhere to park and the the cost of individual games i have quickly got out of the habit of going since i gave up the season ticket. Personally i really miss going and was only saying a few days ago thati might make the effort to pop back for a couple of games but cant justify the cost against other expenditure. It may be market rates and thats fine but as a once diehard but now casual fan i feel its just not value for money. Will be continue to watch from a distance... thats life i suppose! Season ticket holders dont just come out of nowhere, i started going casually, then regularly until i was hooked and became a season ticket holder, if theres no incentive to go to the odd game people are unlikely to leap straight to season ticket holders. Same boat. Factor in that you can go on your computer and watch any Premier League game for free and listen to Town on radio at the same time and it is a no brainer as far as the other half is concerned. Justifying spending that amount of money to watch Town even on a one off basis when you have other far more important outgoings is impossible.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Jul 8, 2014 10:33:27 GMT 1
You only have to go to 2 games for the membership to pay off, bite the bullet and buy one!
As long as the club are proactive and try and get as many non-STH as possible to be members then yes it's £20 which is a bit steep but unfortunately not out of keeping with the rest of football.
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Post by stfcfan87 on Jul 8, 2014 10:52:21 GMT 1
Another point to bare in mind is that while prices may be in line with other clubs, the thing is supporters wages have not been going up - my wages certainly haven't increased by a similar % that these prices have increased by.
While we're questioning things that we were told before had to be the case but now seemingly aren't eg having to have a higher cost for on the day purchases - why on earth are blocks 1 and 2 more expensive than most of the ground? There is no difference in view or facilities in those than corresponding blocks. Why are they more expensive to sit in?!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2014 10:53:02 GMT 1
It looks like you can get Tickets for Villa at £20-£25 and £10 for a Kid. I always take mine to Salop but for someone else looking to treat their Kid's to a first game which looks more tempting? www.avfc.co.uk/page/SeatingPlanStill cheaper at Shrewsbury though if you are taking your kids though! Non member adult + u11 = £25 (£23 + £2) so assume + £2 each additional child …........member = £22 Non Member adult + j12-16 = £27 (£23 + £4) so assume + £4 each J 12-16 …....................member + £24 So compared to Villa an adult + 2 u11 + £40 compared to £27 at Shrewsbury So compared to Villa an adult + 2 j12-16 + £40 compared to £31 at Shrewsbury However in my opinion proffesional football is still expensive to watch in this country anyway!
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Jul 8, 2014 10:58:56 GMT 1
I was a regular for many years then a season ticket holder for about 7-8 years but gave it up a few years a go due to having ankle biters that take most of my time and money!! I always planned to change to just going to the odd game but with an hours drive, trying to find somewhere to park and the the cost of individual games i have quickly got out of the habit of going since i gave up the season ticket. Personally i really miss going and was only saying a few days ago thati might make the effort to pop back for a couple of games but cant justify the cost against other expenditure. It may be market rates and thats fine but as a once diehard but now casual fan i feel its just not value for money. Will be continue to watch from a distance... thats life i suppose! Season ticket holders dont just come out of nowhere, i started going casually, then regularly until i was hooked and became a season ticket holder, if theres no incentive to go to the odd game people are unlikely to leap straight to season ticket holders. I have been through this circle once and maybe about to start again. The lad I had an ST with for the last 3 seasons has not renewed so I didn't, partly because I work several Saturdays and partly because I have a knee injury that means I am not sure I'll miss some of the early games. If I now want to go to a game it's very difficult to sit with my ST holding mates. £23 a pop feels like a luxury with a young family etc. I have already been offered STs for when people are missing two games and that might be a key way of getting to games - if you're an ST holder and are missing a game please bear me in mind. we were told membership cards were dead, how they managed to come back to haunt us is a mystery.
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Post by jockeyshrew on Jul 8, 2014 11:08:53 GMT 1
Pain in the ass that prices have gone up by a few quid..but at the end of the day I'm still going to go when I can anyway. I'd have preffered the prices to have gone up whilst signing some quality players to mount a serious promotion challenge as opposed to freezing them but not signing many players of real quality!!
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Post by yorkshrew on Jul 8, 2014 11:08:56 GMT 1
As a casual supporter due to my location, I am also extremely p***ed off with this pricing strategy. I used the dynamic system 6 or 7 times last season for 2 tickets at the £16 price because I was able to plan ahead. This I felt absorbed the expensive parking options (sutton grange) my choice I know, but not a lot of options to park elsewhere without a long walk.
Chief exec - an own goal here. £20 without the gimmicks of membership or early booking would probably have been reasonable (cat b adult )
A few less games at home for me this season. Will probably attend more away games, travel less distance and not be fleeced for parking.
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Post by northwestman on Jul 8, 2014 11:32:04 GMT 1
And we're yet to see Jenny's price increases yet If I were our CEO I'd be looking elsewhere if Jenny's franchise contract is coming up for renewal.
I didn't think the standards were as good last season and I definitely feel that the food is overpriced.
Have usually been more impressed with the food on offer at the away grounds.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2014 11:41:25 GMT 1
Chief exec - an own goal here. £20 without the gimmicks of membership or early booking would probably have been reasonable (cat b adult ) Well if you stump up the £5 membership and it is £20 and you can buy at that cost on the day so no booking fee, and also decide if you are going on the day! so you will probably be no worse off if you make more than one visit!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2014 11:41:51 GMT 1
It looks like you can get Tickets for Villa at £20-£25 and £10 for a Kid. I always take mine to Salop but for someone else looking to treat their Kid's to a first game which looks more tempting? www.avfc.co.uk/page/SeatingPlanStill cheaper at Shrewsbury though if you are taking your kids though! Non member adult + u11 = £25 (£23 + £2) so assume + £2 each additional child …........member = £22 Non Member adult + j12-16 = £27 (£23 + £4) so assume + £4 each J 12-16 …....................member + £24 So compared to Villa an adult + 2 u11 + £40 compared to £27 at Shrewsbury So compared to Villa an adult + 2 j12-16 + £40 compared to £31 at Shrewsbury However in my opinion proffesional football is still expensive to watch in this country anyway! £25 is category A IE Liverpool,Chelsea,Man City which are often easily more obtainable than watching these at their home grounds .If Going to Football is a treat for the Kid's some will see it as Premiership Football for an extra £13-£17 rather than Town V Cheltenham.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2014 11:46:43 GMT 1
Chief exec - an own goal here. £20 without the gimmicks of membership or early booking would probably have been reasonable (cat b adult ) Well if you stump up the £5 membership and it is £20 and you can buy at that cost on the day so no booking fee, and also decide if you are going on the day! so you will probably be no worse off if you make more than one visit! So if you buy in Advance to save the hassle of queuing you will not pay a Booking Fee?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2014 12:22:49 GMT 1
For those arguing about its only a fiver and you can then get in for £20 or for the five game ticket where your a member it is only £18, its just another hassle/complication of attending a Shrewsbury Town match. The matchday experience at Greenhous Meadow is generally a hell of a lot more hassle than the old place and part of that has always been the ticketing (plus many other factors),
We are not Man United, our ground is half full and people should be able to turn up on the day of the game and not have to pay £23 for the privilage. There are many people out there who have never been die hard fans but at the old ground they might come along every now and again because they could decide on the day, take a stroll to the ground and pay on the gate, now its a lot more hassle and expense so its no wonder those people are staying away. Ive made this point repeatedly since the ground move, plenty of people have said we have gained more than we have lost so its no great loss, to me it was always very short sighted considering we are nowhere close to filling our stadium but we are now in a position where our fanbase is dropping. To me this will just make matters worse.
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Post by davycrockett on Jul 8, 2014 12:23:13 GMT 1
Well if you stump up the £5 membership and it is £20 and you can buy at that cost on the day so no booking fee, and also decide if you are going on the day! so you will probably be no worse off if you make more than one visit! So if you buy in Advance to save the hassle of queuing you will not pay a Booking Fee? I can just imaging the queues on match day with fans not only having to choose where to sit and pay for they ticket but potentially having to choose which 4 other matches to attend and which seat to sit in at each match! is this the work of Matt Williams or perhaps the new guy in charge of the ticket office? Either err way lots of unanswered questions
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Post by scooter on Jul 8, 2014 12:42:32 GMT 1
Well if you stump up the £5 membership and it is £20 and you can buy at that cost on the day so no booking fee, and also decide if you are going on the day! so you will probably be no worse off if you make more than one visit! So if you buy in Advance to save the hassle of queuing you will not pay a Booking Fee? As there is no discount for buying early you can buy on the day for £20, so no need for a booking fee. Agreed you still need to get the membership but that is a one off, which as Throb says, is something we all thought was a thing of the past. For people going to 5 or 10 games a season it is not too bad, as with the flexi ticket you will average out at under £20 per game. For anyone going to only one or two games you will be stung heavily, as will the away fans
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Post by supermac11 on Jul 8, 2014 12:46:40 GMT 1
If you want people to get involved or participate in things (business, charities, political parties, football clubs) you don't create extra barriers no matter how small. This is not providing an with an incentive it's providing another reason not to go for non STHs.
It's best not to try and justify spending £20+ plus to yourself just to see div 4 football.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2014 12:46:54 GMT 1
Just heard that a Walsall fan is to complain about our away ticket prices...........
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Post by andy65 on Jul 8, 2014 13:16:14 GMT 1
Membership idea is a good one to save couple of pounds but really is bad idea putting prices up this much and to penalise anyone who comes spur of the moment.gates will be down which is wasted money over the season. Hope this is changed soon for the best!!! NOT HAPPY
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2014 13:17:37 GMT 1
If you want people to get involved or participate in things (business, charities, political parties, football clubs) you don't create extra barriers no matter how small. This is not providing an with an incentive it's providing another reason not to go for non STHs. It's best not to try and justify spending £20+ plus to yourself just to see div 4 football. I may buy membership but when I then buy a Ticket will I pay a Booking fee? I usually don't have time to pay on the day and hate queuing anyway But If paying on the day deducts the booking fee it will work out cheaper than buying Online/Phone in advance?Why have they decided to remove the incentive of paying in advance? What will happen if the Club sells 3,000 tickets prior to match day then miscalculates the expected Pay on the Day fan's by 1500 ?Delay game,postpone due to inadequate steward numbers? Away supporters will also have no incentive those that may not be able to buy from their Club for reasons such as a ban can just come by Train and pay on the day possibly for any part of the ground
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Post by timgallon on Jul 8, 2014 13:26:30 GMT 1
Do the 5 games in the Flexi ticket have to be used on 5 consecutive games or can they be used for any 5 games during the season? If the former I wont be buying any as I plan to pick and choose my games this year.
Expecting causal fans to pitch up on the day and pay £23 is just going to put off a lot of people.
Shocking that none of this was discussed with the SP before it went public.
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Post by buryshrew on Jul 8, 2014 13:29:27 GMT 1
Of the dozen or so away matches I went to last season, there were barely any that I definitely decided to go to more than 24 hours prior to kick off. Virtually all of them involved jumping in the car with the kids, driving to the ground, easy parking for free or a couple of quid with no hassle within a couple of minutes walk to the ground, and purchasing tickets after a pointer in the right direction by a steward. Never missed a kick off. I'm sure I'm not alone in this.
It would be a good exercise for Matt Williams to have a drive to GM on a match day, arriving at 2.15 to 2.30pm or so, and going through the motions of finding parking (assume never having been there before), getting a ticket and making it to a seat by 3pm. Or maybe I'm just one of a dying breed who doesn't plan every Saturday a week or a month in advance, as family and work matters often change my course even if i do!
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Post by scooter on Jul 8, 2014 13:32:28 GMT 1
Do the 5 games in the Flexi ticket have to be used on 5 consecutive games or can they be used for any 5 games during the season? If the former I wont be buying any as I plan to pick and choose my games this year.
Expecting causal fans to pitch up on the day and pay £23 is just going to put off a lot of people.
Shocking that none of this was discussed with the SP before it went public. someone on facebook said they rang the club and it is 5 vouchers which can be used for any game - not sure how you know which seat
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