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Post by eclipsechaser on Apr 4, 2011 20:09:46 GMT 1
If you stopped Rooney from swearing he would be struck dumb !
Not a bad idea then !
He has a common as muck look by the attitude shown on his face and Yes he confirms it when he opens his mouth .
For some its not what he said but the attitude and motivation behind it . It was the fact it was said with venom and a hint of threatening violence just like someone would pick a fight with you ie. down a pub or club when drunk .
What a despicable human he is but unfortunately not the only one .
It was a deliberate slap in the face to the media who report all his bad , disgusting habits .
Long may they continue to disgrace this foul mouthed fool !
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Apr 4, 2011 20:11:28 GMT 1
If anyone else can help me with the relevance of that comment then I'd appreciate it. Completely lost on me that. had a feeling that would fly over your head i'll put it in laymans again just for you rooney had just scored his hat-trick after his side had been 2-0 down i can't even imagine how that must feel next thing there is a camera shoved in his face and you expect the player to halt his emotions and suddenly change character as i said, it was hardly a planned interview it was heat of the moment in mid emotion thats the character of the game, the character of rooney players swear every week its only different when its rooney Anyone else? From what I gather he started to swear only when the camera was turned on him. So it wasn't as if he was mid flow. For some reason he made the decision to let loose once he saw the camera was turned on him. And he pretty made sure he directed his outburst at the camera. That's about right isn't it looking at that clip above. I doubt we'll agree on this, might as well just agree to disagree...
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Post by stfcfan87 on Apr 4, 2011 20:33:27 GMT 1
Quite agree with the FA on this
It's not down to raw emotion if you score, start celebrating with your team mates and then a few more seconds after notice the camera, look straight into it and then start with a foul mouthed rant directly down it.
I mean why on earth do it??
How many others players have done it??
Just utterly moronic.
The fact that Man U even apologised within hours and even the PFA have come out having a go at Rooney's behaviour - can anyone remember the last time they did that about one of their own members??? - demostrates it was totally out of order
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Post by Pilch on Apr 4, 2011 20:35:33 GMT 1
i'll turn up and point my camera in your face one day when you are working i'll fully expect you to be polite
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Post by differentcoco on Apr 4, 2011 20:36:09 GMT 1
Anyone else? From what I gather he started to swear only when the camera was turned on him. So it wasn't as if he was mid flow. For some reason he made the decision to let loose once he saw the camera was turned on him. And he pretty made sure he directed his outburst at the camera. That's about right isn't it looking at that clip above. I doubt we'll agree on this, might as well just agree to disagree... Spot on.
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Post by ShrewsburySTFC on Apr 4, 2011 20:38:44 GMT 1
Foul mouthed rant? Really?
If the whole country had been calling me s**t after the world cup, people have been on my back for months picking at every move I make, even score a world class goal and people say I shinned it, then 40,000 people had been calling me Shrek, an ugly and singing 'you fat barsteward' at me for an hour whilst I was playing football, then I score a hat-trick to basically win the game from being 2-0 down, give my side a chance at winnning the league, I'd probably say more than he did. And the majority of people would.
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Post by familystand on Apr 4, 2011 21:12:24 GMT 1
Ainsworth got a yellow for removing his shirt as is the norm all the players know this will happen but still do it.But who does this upset/annoy .If leaving the field of play to celebrate also became a yellow or even red it would reduce the incidences of "inciting the crowd" and also swearing directly into the camera.Perhaps players would still do it but they know the consequences they make their own choice.But like all things these days the rules/laws are changed to take account of the idiots instead of the normal citizen
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Apr 4, 2011 21:18:11 GMT 1
you will hear the same word on TV and the audience roaring with laughter, thousands buy DVDs using this word and other ripe language but this is different The TV show would be on after 9pm and the DVD would be a 15. It is not the first time Rooney has seen a TV camera and had a rant into it. Maybe he sees a reflection? A bit like when my cat goes past the mirror.
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Post by jamo on Apr 4, 2011 21:44:20 GMT 1
Stone the poorly educated, working class kid from inner city Liverpool, because if he can't articulate himself he needs to die.
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Post by shrewsace on Apr 4, 2011 21:54:55 GMT 1
i'll turn up and point my camera in your face one day when you are working i'll fully expect you to be polite Yes, what on earth were TV cameras doing at a Premier League game? Bloody cheek! Jamo, I'm sure plenty of your Man United heroes over the years have been poorly educated working class boys. While few, if any, have probably been as repellent as Rooney. OK, it's a bit of a storm in a tea cup, but he's hardly hard-done-to. Or a martyr.
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Post by Pilch on Apr 4, 2011 22:21:47 GMT 1
maybe it will teach rooney to celebrate a goal in a more civilised manner
like this maybe ?
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Post by grinfish on Apr 4, 2011 23:02:26 GMT 1
Foul mouthed rant? Really? If the whole country had been calling me s**t after the world cup... Hey now, don't tar everyone with the same brush. I was calling Rooney s**t well before the end of the World Cup
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Post by shrew4life on Apr 4, 2011 23:33:43 GMT 1
Foul mouthed rant? Really? If the whole country had been calling me s**t after the world cup, people have been on my back for months picking at every move I make, even score a world class goal and people say I shinned it, then 40,000 people had been calling me Shrek, an ugly and singing 'you fat barsteward' at me for an hour whilst I was playing football, then I score a hat-trick to basically win the game from being 2-0 down, give my side a chance at winnning the league, I'd probably say more than he did. And the majority of people would. If I was being paid that amount of money just to play football I'd happily stand in a packed out stadium taking abuse.
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Post by venceremos on Apr 5, 2011 0:51:17 GMT 1
Nothing like the sound of hypocrisy in full cry.
Of course Rooney was wrong but, before we get too misty eyed about the well behaved working class lads of bygone days, we might also remember there was a time when football crowds didn't have so many bug eyed, foul mouthed losers spouting vitriolic personal abuse at players and, worst of all, their families. No doubt, being complete f***wits, they think it's all "banter" but I don't see why any player should have to tolerate that, regardless of how much they earn.
Besides which, I remember seeing a future England midfielder tell a linesman to f*** off at one of the first games I went to, over 30 years ago.
As usual, we get what we deserve. Move the cameras and it won't happen. Better still, start throwing out some of the culprits in the crowd. Cantona had it about right.
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Post by ratcliffesghost on Apr 5, 2011 5:35:53 GMT 1
Stone the poorly educated, working class kid from inner city Liverpool Oh the Irony!
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Post by WindsorShrew on Apr 5, 2011 6:53:22 GMT 1
Stone the poorly educated, working class kid from inner city Liverpool, because if he can't articulate himself he needs to die. Hmmmm I notice you have refrained from calling this man a "bin dipper" Jamo. And lets be honest he is (we agree) a yob who is merely good at football. And as with many things associated with the game people with an ability to kick a bag of air will be defended by those perpetrating to "support" the team the plays for. So lets not treat this matter as frivolous and say "stone him" - lets instead look for ways to improve his (and others like him) behaviour. Another reason why this call sign doesn't bother following In-gur-lund.
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Post by poirot on Apr 5, 2011 7:33:39 GMT 1
From a man who doesn't even know what the word sport means,,,what fairplay means....from a man who held his Club to ransom. From a man who cheated on his wife with Whores... from a man who elbowed a fellow proffesional in the face. From such a man we should expect nothing less. Only the deluded would show such a man support... From a woman who denied the existence of ‘Society’. From a woman who destroyed Britain’s manufacturing industry. From a woman who glorified in helping the ‘haves’ at the expense of the have ‘nots’. From a woman who deliberately and unnecessarily started a war, costing hundreds of lives, to save her own political neck….. From such a woman we should expect nothing less. Only the deluded would show such a woman support...
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Post by jamo on Apr 5, 2011 8:05:04 GMT 1
Hmmmm I notice you have refrained from calling this man a "bin dipper" Jamo. And lets be honest he is (we agree) a yob who is merely good at football. And as with many things associated with the game people with an ability to kick a bag of air will be defended by those perpetrating to "support" the team the plays for. So lets not treat this matter as frivolous and say "stone him" - lets instead look for ways to improve his (and others like him) behaviour. Another reason why this call sign doesn't bother following In-gur-lund. He does not play for Liverpool F C therefore i am at a loss as to why i would associate him with my favourite description of that odious football club ! Anyway, onto Rooney. I have not anywhere defended his actions as you suggest, nor would I on this occasion. What amuses me is the down right hypocrisy of the F A and the people who are calling for his head. What action did the F A take against Rooney when he did exactly the same thing at the World Cup ? in fact it was worse in South Africa because the outburst did not immediatley follow his completion of a hat trick to win the game for his team. Also, slightly arrogant of us to think we can `improve` him don't you think ?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2011 8:27:19 GMT 1
I'm not sure I agree with the ban as a one-off charge. However, I also find it difficult to defend someone shouting that 4-letter expletive on national TV at lunchtime on a Saturday.
What I do agree with is the FA starting to take action on the overall perception of football and footballers alike.
I can't stand Rugby as a sport, but they have got it spot on in regards to respect, in terms of the officials, each team as opponents and fans as a whole. Something football needs to clearly wake up to.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2011 10:28:12 GMT 1
The hypocrisy on here is unbelievable. What exactly are we looking at; the fact that a young man swore at T.V. cameras, thereby putting our women and children in grave moral danger! Do the t.v. companys, who manage to relay images around the world, use their technology to filter the foul language which we hear while watching pundits discuss the game from their glass domes. No. Can we hear foul language at every game we attend, as in, "the refs a w****r", "Whose the barsteward in the Black" or even jolly songs where our favourite player will be allowed to "shag me wife"? Oh yes. Do we go home and watch some fat repulsive ,lying middle class chef cram as many ****S into his programme as possible, and even celebrate the fact by advertising the said programme on the basis of the F-WORD.
So, lets not get too precious with ourselves just yet. ROONEY or RAMSEY, whose it gonna be. One is a lecherous, ugly, multi millionaire with no class,no style and a habit of swearing into the lens of a camera. The other is a footballer. Oh, forgot, one is working class, the other deemed to be respectably middle class.
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Post by stfcfan87 on Apr 5, 2011 10:29:20 GMT 1
The point on the world cup - that was a fifa competition and as such the FA had no authority to discipline him.
I also don't remember him swearing in that particular outburst - yes he had a go at the fans but i don't remember the swearing.
The camera wasn't shoved in his face as he was midway through swearing to team mates or to himself - he noticed it and then went over to it and started swearing down it.
The defence of, 'oh well if i was getting abuse from the fans at the ground i might be tempted to swear', that's ridiculous - he wasn't swearing at the west ham fans who were giving him the abuse he was swearing at the tv audience.
And yes it might be hard being followed about by the media etc, but this is a person who has signed up to be the main face in a number of advertising campaigns e.g. nike, coke, fifa soccer etc. if he doesn't want this attention then he could stop doing these campaigns and getting the paychecks that go with them.
I'm sorry but even the PFA have had a go at him over this. Like I say I can't recall another time that the PFA came out and criticised one of their members.
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Post by Pilch on Apr 5, 2011 10:38:31 GMT 1
The camera wasn't shoved in his face as he was midway through swearing to team mates or to himself - he noticed it and then went over to it and started swearing down it. . watch it again rooney runs to the fans the camera IS shoved in his face yes he asks the camerman what he wants but NEVER takes a step towards the camera ran to the fans
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Apr 5, 2011 10:39:29 GMT 1
I think the assumption is
Good Footballer (not world class on the evidence of this season and the world cup) Horrible Person (for the mryiad of awful things hes done in his private life, and at times on the field)
I found the Robbie Savage/Mike Parry Phone in on Radio Five Saturday Night very intresting.. So many Man U fans would be happy to see him go, with all this ontop of the contract thing when he frankley stung the club... United would do well do cash in while hes till you and go out and get a couple of world class forwards (which would unfortunatly mean they stay top of the game in Engalnd for another 10 years more than likely)
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Post by stfcfan87 on Apr 5, 2011 10:58:03 GMT 1
The camera wasn't shoved in his face as he was midway through swearing to team mates or to himself - he noticed it and then went over to it and started swearing down it. . watch it again rooney runs to the fans the camera IS shoved in his face yes he asks the camerman what he wants but NEVER takes a step towards the camera ran to the fans Sorry I meant, that it wasn't like he was midway through swearing just to his teammates when the camera came in on him mid sentence and the rest of the conversation was happened to be heard - he noticed the camera, went over to it as in stared straight down it and then started swearing. In fact if you look at that clip, by the time he starts swearing half his teammates who were celebrating have actually left him to start running back. that's how in the moment it was.
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Post by Pilch on Apr 5, 2011 11:15:54 GMT 1
and dont forget this
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Post by stfcfan87 on Apr 5, 2011 11:26:08 GMT 1
Of course the other stupid thing was that just days before hand the chief of the premier league said he was going to ensure that there needed to be a lot more respect given and discipline shown by players on the pitch and that the premier league were going to come down hard on offenders.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2011 11:35:53 GMT 1
I've got no issue with swearing, but I cannot believe how moronic Rooney looks. What on earth goes through his head?
An ugly, balding waste of space.
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Post by camdenshrew on Apr 5, 2011 11:40:01 GMT 1
I just wish people would stop making excuses for him all the time - including Ferguson. Perhaps if his manager had stopped indulging him so much he would be less of a liability on the pitch.
Whether he likes it or not, he is a role model for kids and he's got a responsibility to them if nobody else.
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Post by ssshrew on Apr 5, 2011 11:44:54 GMT 1
Absolutely Camden Shrew - it's time everyone around him, manager, family, agent, whoever started telling him that he and his behaviour are not acceptable. For sure he is a role model for younger people (goodness knows why). The number of youngsters at the England game at the Prostar recently with Rooney shirts on was unbelievable.
He is just not worthy of such adulation - there are far better role models in the world.
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Post by Hippo on Apr 5, 2011 12:11:38 GMT 1
Didn't Drogba get banned for 4 matches when he said/ranted something like "it's a f*****g disgrace" to a camera after a European game a couple of years ago? Be (vaguely) interested to see whether views posted on that were consistent with some being posted on this..
I'm not really bothered about Rooney doing this personally, but he obviously shouldn't, and it is deserving of discipline.
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