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Post by PeterBroadbent on Jul 14, 2010 21:43:05 GMT 1
Boogied over to the Brentford board to see comments on Matt Harrald - who most deluded fans on here think is a good signing. 'Fraid not guys .... www.griffinpark.org/forums/showthread.php?t=80938the one post that he was worse than Elder specifically resonated. God, get fit soon Nath lad. Looks like yet another very very bad acquisition from those comments - and please remember - please don't shot the messenger!
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Post by suttonshrew on Jul 14, 2010 22:00:52 GMT 1
wow you really hate the guy dont you!!
i take from your comments you only read selected posts and the ones like, good league 2 player you somehow missed.
ffs give the lad a chance he hasnt even pulled on a town shirt yet, you may be right but at least give him a shot.
personally cant remember seeing him play to often but he must have had something to play for yeovil, brentford and wycombe.
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Post by jaytee on Jul 14, 2010 22:07:40 GMT 1
I've seen him. Seems a tidy player. Only 25. Strikers don't come to their best until 29/30. Should have Nathan back soon, PB. The Bees fans were very fond of him.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Jul 14, 2010 22:08:04 GMT 1
At the very worst give him a chance, and remember he didn't cost a fee unlike NE
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Post by monkee on Jul 14, 2010 22:08:44 GMT 1
Boogied over to the Brentford board to see comments on Matt Harrald - who most deluded fans on here think is a good signing. 'Fraid not guys .... www.griffinpark.org/forums/showthread.php?t=80938the one post that he was worse than Elder specifically resonated. God, get fit soon Nath lad. Looks like yet another very very bad acquisition from those comments - and please remember - please don't shot the messenger! all you have really proved is that there are negative people with unrealistic expectations on every messageboard.
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Post by Ned on Jul 14, 2010 22:11:20 GMT 1
PB = Ed's brother.
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Post by shrewswolf on Jul 14, 2010 22:14:41 GMT 1
Oh come on, give the lad a chance. He's been here a day and a bit and he's a dud? See him play a few games (at least) and then decide what you think of him. The lads been in the football league for a long time and not too long ago played a part in a promotion from the league we currently find ourselves. He can't be too bad a player. We also had competition from other league clubs, seems managers see something in him.
Not everyone we sign will turn out like Elder, we all understand (and agree!) with you on him but harrold could be the opposite. Lets see, Turner has been in this game a long time, and he see's it a gamble worth taking.
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Post by monkee on Jul 14, 2010 22:21:01 GMT 1
Oh come on, give the lad a chance. He's been here a day and a bit and he's a dud? See him play a few games (at least) and then decide what you think of him. The lads been in the football league for a long time and not too long ago played a part in a promotion from the league we currently find ourself. He can't be too bad a player. We also had competition from other league clubs, seems managers see something in him. Not everyone we sign will turn out like Elder, we all understand (and agree!) with you on him but harrold could be the opposite. Lets see, Turner has been in this game a long time, and he see's it a gamble worth taking. please dont speak for everyone. i still harbour a desire to see Nathan succeed. i still dont see why its not possible, he has scored goals at other clubs and got a couple for us, despite dogs abuse.
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Post by jaytee on Jul 14, 2010 22:28:46 GMT 1
Still prepared to give Nathan a chance, tbh.
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Post by shrewswolf on Jul 14, 2010 22:33:09 GMT 1
Oh come on, give the lad a chance. He's been here a day and a bit and he's a dud? See him play a few games (at least) and then decide what you think of him. The lads been in the football league for a long time and not too long ago played a part in a promotion from the league we currently find ourself. He can't be too bad a player. We also had competition from other league clubs, seems managers see something in him. Not everyone we sign will turn out like Elder, we all understand (and agree!) with you on him but harrold could be the opposite. Lets see, Turner has been in this game a long time, and he see's it a gamble worth taking. please dont speak for everyone. i still harbour a desire to see Nathan succeed. i still dont see why its not possible, he has scored goals at other clubs and got a couple for us, despite dogs abuse. Don't get me wrong, I too wish him luck and hope things turn around. His success could mean our success. I was meaning we all more or less agree Elder hasn't worked out so far. Hopefully this can change.
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Post by Stavvy on Jul 14, 2010 22:34:29 GMT 1
Me too. I still think nathan has a part to play and will get my support. New manager, new start. If we actually support him and get off his back then i think he can do a decent job for us. He did a really good job at brenford before his facial injury. Perhaps with a run of games his confidence will improve and so will he. I bet hes chomping at the bit to get back playing, just a shame he has a long term injury.
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Post by monkee on Jul 14, 2010 22:34:29 GMT 1
please dont speak for everyone. i still harbour a desire to see Nathan succeed. i still dont see why its not possible, he has scored goals at other clubs and got a couple for us, despite dogs abuse. Don't get me wrong, I too wish him luck and hope things turn around. His success could mean our success. I was meaning we all more or less agree Elder hasn't worked out so far. Hopefully this can change. cant disagree with that, I read it the wrong way
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Post by PeterBroadbent on Jul 14, 2010 22:43:39 GMT 1
An interesting perspective I felt from fans of club who have seen him play.
Just doing a bit of research guys - it's your entertainment at stake for the next two years.
Also we have all seen him play too.
Imagine what other fans reading our board would say had they just acquired L Neal. Don't think our views on him would misrepresent him would they?
This is history repeating itself in front of our very eyes.
Be very afraid folks.
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Post by mattmw on Jul 14, 2010 22:45:05 GMT 1
While it would be nice to see us sign some of the £100,000 players quoted such as Benson or Flyyn, I've got confidence that Turner is building a team, rather than focusing on 1-2 wow signings to get us promoted. To me Harrold seems a reasonable replacemnet for Hibbert - no more or less than that.
If you look at the Hereford side that got promoted in 07/08 out of this league their top scorer got just 13 goals, so having a striker who gets 20 goals a season isn't always needed to get promoted, and I think sometimes having a one player who you rely on too much can cause trouble, and possibly rifts in the side as the wage differences between players can be an issue.
From what I can see Turner is basing the side on much as he did in the first spell at the club - an experienced, solid defence, workman like midfield and solid if unspectacular forward line.
If you don't conceed too many and can nick games by the odd goal that's the basis of a decent side. If we can get a bit of creativity into the midfield its not too much of a leap of faith to see Harrold, Bradshaw and Robinson getting 10-12 goals each this season. I don't think the season is going to be a spectacular one, but am pleased we seem to have a strategy for developing a side which has maybe been lacking for a few seasons.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2010 22:47:43 GMT 1
Harrald was only 19 when he signed for Brentford and played for them for two seasons. This is going back 5 /6 years. He's now 26 with experience gained by playing for other clubs who have all been of a higher standard than Shrewsbury. At 6'2" able to hold the ball and with a reputation as some one who gives 100% ...... welcome to Shrewsbury Matt Harrald. If the situation had been reversed and Brentford had asked our opinion of Dave Hunt most of us would have said have him back, apart from his long throws, he's crap. Last season Hunt was one of their best players.!!! Lets welcome him to the club, support him, watch him play and then make up our OWN MINDS about the lad. The seasons not even started and already we're reacting to new signings with negativity and pessimism. Nothings changed.
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Post by poolieshrew on Jul 14, 2010 22:47:48 GMT 1
Boogied over to the Brentford board to see comments on Matt Harrald - who most deluded fans on here think is a good signing. 'Fraid not guys .... www.griffinpark.org/forums/showthread.php?t=80938the one post that he was worse than Elder specifically resonated. God, get fit soon Nath lad. Looks like yet another very very bad acquisition from those comments - and please remember - please don't shot the messenger! Not that i give a flying monkies what Brentford Fans think of our players but thought the spread of opinion was quite positive but i know that doesnt make for a speculative negative thread Solid lg 2 forward who will be a good option for GT. If he wins the starting nod in front of Bright and gets the right service i dont think 20 goals is out of the question. For what its worth ive seen the lad play about half a dozen times and ive been impressed on each occasion. Talking to a couple of lg 1 centre halves this week also they both describe him as a decent player who could be a bit of a handfull albeit not a flyer. Good luck with the Town Matt, fingers crossed you notch early on to keep the vultures from circling
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Post by siabod on Jul 14, 2010 22:53:59 GMT 1
Boogied over to the Brentford board to see comments on Matt Harrald - who most deluded fans on here think is a good signing. 'Fraid not guys .... www.griffinpark.org/forums/showthread.php?t=80938the one post that he was worse than Elder specifically resonated. God, get fit soon Nath lad. Looks like yet another very very bad acquisition from those comments - and please remember - please don't shot the messenger! I notice that some of them seem to dislike him just for the colour of his hair which shows just how much their opinions should be considered. Andy Cole was sold by Arsenal because he was considered to be not up to scratch in the goalscoring stakes but managed to do OK in his later career, (No I am not comparing the 2 as players just saying everyone deserves a fair chance) You say " don't shoot the messenger" but the messenger in this case decides that people are deluded if they think he is a decent signing. People on this board had mentioned him as someone they would like to see at the club several times previously but it does make me wonder just who you would like to see at the club as a striker that is affordable and available. Every player in Town colours deserves a chance, they used to get a run of a few games to settle in and prove their worth (or otherwise) but now you seem to have a policy of not only deciding they are rubbish before they play for the club and without even having seen this man play. I say this because had you seen him play you would have formed your own opinion not taken the opinions of strangers who may or may not have an axe to grind with their comments. You could have at least done him the courtesy of getting his name correct.
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Post by Ned on Jul 14, 2010 22:54:41 GMT 1
Cheer up Broadbent.
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Post by africanshrew on Jul 14, 2010 22:54:50 GMT 1
Boogied over to the Brentford board to see comments on Matt Harrald - who most deluded fans on here think is a good signing. quote] Deluded is more fun than being pointlessly negative - try it, you might enjoy it!
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Post by mightyshrew on Jul 14, 2010 23:00:17 GMT 1
Am I right in saying two seasons ago when Wycombe went up they beat us 1-0 at the NM? I'm 99% sure Harrald scored the winner that day and I never forgot his performance, I gave him man of the match that day, looked a tidy player, I'm excited by this signing
(The Brentford fans aren't overly critical of him anyway... a few say he'll do a job for us)
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Post by mightyshrew on Jul 14, 2010 23:02:01 GMT 1
Out of interest PeterBroadbent.... were you at the above game?
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Post by jaytee on Jul 14, 2010 23:13:24 GMT 1
We'll be O.K. Let's see who the next signings are. Good news all being well.
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Post by theyesman on Jul 14, 2010 23:16:43 GMT 1
Gingers for justice!!! You've not seen the guy play yet, so get off his case! Players perform differently under different managers. Perhaps you could try forging your own opinion on MH. Get a grip PB you muppet!
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Post by PeterBroadbent on Jul 14, 2010 23:18:24 GMT 1
These are not my vews they are the Brentford's fans views,
I dread going to the Wycombe board - anyone brave enough to give a link to their thread on his departure. I bet there are no tears shed - but happy to be proved wrong.
I told you about NE - and am giving you sources about MH..
This is another journeyman dud.
Have you all forgotten how many of these we similarly acquired last transfer windows - oh, hang on yes I do - Elder, Bright, Neal, Robinson, Simpson Jnr, Cureton.
Guess you all enjoyed watching them in Town shirt - I didn't tbh. Wise up guys?
On the evidence presented MH unlikley to scintillate, score much, keep his elbows down, entertain, win us games, be a good investment, be better than the other injured monstrosity of a striker - we have learnt nothing from last season's transfer window.
Swallow the pill guys - more dross and more League 2 mid-table if this misguided business goes on.
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Post by PeterBroadbent on Jul 14, 2010 23:24:28 GMT 1
Out of interest PeterBroadbent.... were you at the above game? I was, a dire affair, and a very cold day in Jan as I recall. Also went to our last two away games at theirs - apart from the 7-0 - if he played he was anoynmous.
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Post by monkee on Jul 14, 2010 23:39:45 GMT 1
These are not my vews they are the Brentford's fans views, I dread going to the Wycombe board - anyone brave enough to give a link to their thread on his departure. I bet there are no tears shed - but happy to be proved wrong. I told you about NE - and am giving you sources about MH.. This is another journeyman dud. Have you all forgotten how many of these we similarly acquired last transfer windows - oh, hang on yes I do - Elder, Bright, Neal, Robinson, Simpson Jnr, Cureton. Guess you all enjoyed watching them in Town shirt - I didn't tbh. Wise up guys? On the evidence presented MH unlikley to scintillate, score much, keep his elbows down, entertain, win us games, be a good investment, be better than the other injured monstrosity of a striker - we have learnt nothing from last season's transfer window. Swallow the pill guys - more dross and more League 2 mid-table if this misguided business goes on. it was the fact that you focussed on the negative comments, not the comments themselves. before our new players have even kicked a ball, you are actively looking for reasons to slate them, the bloke hasnt been here a week yet but off you go, spouting the same old tosh. if its about wising up, why dont you wise up, and try a team that matches your ambition, this one can do no right for you.
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Post by PeterBroadbent on Jul 14, 2010 23:40:00 GMT 1
Me too. I still think nathan has a part to play and will get my support. New manager, new start. If we actually support him and get off his back then i think he can do a decent job for us. He did a really good job at brenford before his facial injury. Perhaps with a run of games his confidence will improve and so will he. I bet hes chomping at the bit to get back playing, just a shame he has a long term injury. ...erm misguided, wish I was drinking what you are, overly optimistic, give the lad a chance, he needs a run, ... ... face up to it for goodness sake he is absolutely damn useless and was a total total waste of money, space, energy, our afternoons, hopes, dreams. Even the Dons' fans were glad he went. Think you will find they are in the League below us :-) MH = a repeat of this nightmare - you heard it hear first!!
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Post by shrew4life on Jul 14, 2010 23:42:12 GMT 1
He's your brother?
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Post by PeterBroadbent on Jul 14, 2010 23:44:57 GMT 1
Nope ... Sharps was a good signing, as have been the defenders - this one stinks!!
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Post by venceremos on Jul 14, 2010 23:48:14 GMT 1
Is it possible to sign some new fans? We could send PB on trial somewhere else. Mind you, if their fans checked this board, they'd send him back.
Just a thought .....
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