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Post by monkee on Jul 14, 2010 23:56:00 GMT 1
Is it possible to sign some new fans? We could send PB on trial somewhere else. Mind you, if their fans checked this board, they'd send him back. Just a thought ..... just thinking a similar thing! he would have to drop a level or 3, no way is he league 2 standard. he cant even spell players names ffs, schoolboy error! who would have him after making mistakes like that? i think we are stuck with him unless we could pay him off
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2010 23:56:51 GMT 1
Crikey, hasn't played for Brentford for 5 years, give us some current evidence PB.
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Post by monkee on Jul 14, 2010 23:58:34 GMT 1
Crikey, hasn't played for Brentford for 5 years, give us some current evidence PB. disgraceful! he should never be allowed to wear the shirt again!
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Post by markglasgow on Jul 15, 2010 0:36:09 GMT 1
Certainly quick off the mark with this witch-hunt PB. That male menopause sure is bugger!
Forget his time as a raw 18-20yr old at Brentford. He more recently played a large part in Wycombe's promotion just a few years back and notched a few in Lge 1 the season after.
He isn't Grant Holt PB. He's a decent, honest targetman. The type all teams need to get out of here (ask Peter Taylor). I do however have a sneaky feeling that GT will quench your desire for true striking quality over the next month or so hang on in there and stop being so miserable!!
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Post by saladsaladsalad on Jul 15, 2010 1:46:12 GMT 1
Only 25. Strikers don't come to their best until 29/30. Wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2010 6:29:49 GMT 1
awful thread, he has been here for a matter of days and has been labelled a dud
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2010 6:41:07 GMT 1
Out of interest PeterBroadbent.... were you at the above game? I was, a dire affair, and a very cold day in Jan as I recall. Also went to our last two away games at theirs - apart from the 7-0 - if he played he was anoynmous. He would have been anonymous in that first game as he probably had not signed for Wycombe. The second game was the televised one when Town played particularly well and most Wycombe players were anonymous. He also did not play in the 7-0. On another matter, has it never occured to the whingers like you that players like Elder and Simpson Jnr had their confidence knocked back by the over negative reception they received. I was sorry to see the latter go because, despite the crowd, he had improved and don't forget he was a first year pro. Elder almost certainly would have got us more goals than some of the other lame ducks who played after he was driven out on loan.
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Post by PeterBroadbent on Jul 15, 2010 8:03:00 GMT 1
I do however have a sneaky feeling that GT will quench your desire for true striking quality over the next month or so hang on in there and stop being so miserable!! That thought has elevated my mood somewhat - will try and cheer up. But .... if we are to see two more strikers signed this summer, and let's hope we do, MH is one of those berths gone.
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Post by alchemist on Jul 15, 2010 8:52:43 GMT 1
Okay PB, not a fan of the negativity towards a guy who hasn't even pulled on the shirt yet, but if you want to criticise this as a poor signing then why don't you enlighten us all and tell us all who YOU would sign to play up front? Don't just give us the standard "wow signings" or guys that are non-starters, give us some names so that we can revisit this in six months time. As always, its more facile to criticise than to be constructive!
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Post by ambergambler on Jul 15, 2010 8:55:54 GMT 1
I do however have a sneaky feeling that GT will quench your desire for true striking quality over the next month or so hang on in there and stop being so miserable!! That thought has elevated my mood somewhat - will try and cheer up. But .... if we are to see two more strikers signed this summer, and let's hope we do, MH is one of those berths gone. Nice to see your brave enough to play Devils Advocate Peter,folks this would be a boring board without some honest views.True he is not in the Holt mold but along side GTs next loan/signing will prove a good signing.
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Post by Jonah on Jul 15, 2010 9:46:47 GMT 1
If I was a player thinking over a move to STFC and happened to read some of the utter negative tripe both Peter and his brother ShrewEd then it would certainly make my mind up Nothing like making a player feel welcome and settle in is there? Good luck MH and enjoy proving the idiot wrong
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Post by stainesr on Jul 15, 2010 11:19:18 GMT 1
PB, just smited you for being such a ridiculous neg. Give the lad a chance!
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Post by stfcfan87 on Jul 15, 2010 11:42:55 GMT 1
These are not my vews they are the Brentford's fans views, I dread going to the Wycombe board - anyone brave enough to give a link to their thread on his departure. I bet there are no tears shed - but happy to be proved wrong. I told you about NE - and am giving you sources about MH.. This is another journeyman dud. Have you all forgotten how many of these we similarly acquired last transfer windows - oh, hang on yes I do - Elder, Bright, Neal, Robinson, Simpson Jnr, Cureton. Guess you all enjoyed watching them in Town shirt - I didn't tbh. Wise up guys? On the evidence presented MH unlikley to scintillate, score much, keep his elbows down, entertain, win us games, be a good investment, be better than the other injured monstrosity of a striker - we have learnt nothing from last season's transfer window. Swallow the pill guys - more dross and more League 2 mid-table if this misguided business goes on. Wait there, according to your definition and need for a wow signing - Cureton fits that bill. He was a big name player, proven goalscoring history and bought in at high cost. Yes he was utterly crap but you just want a big name don't you! As pointed out, how can you go on a club's fan website and ask about a player who played for them more than 5 years ago when they were making their way into football? Why have you not done this with Wycombe which is relevant? 5 years ago or so we had a player on loan who wasn't particularly memorable or impressive and if we on this message board were bizarrely asked our opinions on him by a club rumoured to be signing him we'd not give anything too optimistic - it doesn't matter that he's now a premiership player and has been up against Ryan Giggs, Malouda and Nasri last season. In the time since he played for us he's completely changed as a player- I speak of Andy Wilkinson at Stoke.
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Post by Worthingshrew on Jul 15, 2010 12:37:21 GMT 1
PB, I gues that you'd rather be proved right than see MH score 20 goals next season, wouldn't you? Are you really a Town fan at all??
I think he's a good signing, and at least as good as Hibbert.
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Post by PeterBroadbent on Jul 15, 2010 13:28:40 GMT 1
Crikey, hasn't played for Brentford for 5 years, give us some current evidence PB. How about this Ant from Throbbing Gristle's mate on the SMS thread? ------------------ From my Wycombe season ticket holder mate..... I think our expectations were too high, potential is there but never really shone at Wycombe, I must admit there used to be a huge collective sigh of relief when he wasnt on the team sheet , solid penalty taker and pretty good finisher...if he gets the ball rather than standing around with a gallic style shrug to the linesman or ref..., if he gets good service could have a good season, _______________ Sigh of relief when not on the team sheet seems not so good to me - but then of course I appear to be in a minority of one!
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Post by Minto on Jul 15, 2010 13:45:35 GMT 1
......if only that were true! PB, you are a moron, you encapsulate everything that depresses me at times about being a Town fan. I would like to recommend that you are given your own specific area of the messageboard that true supporters can simply view, smile and shake our heads ... like we would the ramblings of an unruly toddler.
As has already been pointed out on other posts, it is difficult to criticise any of our strikers over recent times given the lack of creativity that they have had to endure in the side. I think that MH will prove to be a good signing given time and support from true fans.
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Post by Shrewed on Jul 15, 2010 13:46:33 GMT 1
PB, I gues that you'd rather be proved right than see MH score 20 goals next season, wouldn't you? Are you really a Town fan at all?? I think he's a good signing, and at least as good as Hibbert. Why is it that everytime anyone suggests that everything isn't perfect that other posters come on suggesting they are not real fans. Football is about opinion it would be a real boring world if everyone agreed. Out of interest nottshrew how many times have you seen MH play. If the role of a striker is to score goals Hibbert is ahead of Harrold. DH 100 starts 52 sub 33 goals MH 131 starts 83 sub 34 goals Personally unlike those who seem to think that everyone we sign is the best player ever, I don't see MH as a WOW signing, currently I think the front line is weaker than it was last season when we struggled to pass 50 goals.
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Jul 15, 2010 13:52:37 GMT 1
I don't mind getting on a players back... But think it's only fair to wait untill they actually play bad!! Mental to assume anyone will rubbish before they don out shirt and link up with team mates... I still stick with 10 games to judge approach, crap after that and theu are fair game, and manager culpable.
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Post by shrewblue on Jul 15, 2010 14:06:24 GMT 1
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Post by monkee on Jul 15, 2010 14:09:44 GMT 1
Crikey, hasn't played for Brentford for 5 years, give us some current evidence PB. How about this Ant from Throbbing Gristle's mate on the SMS thread? ------------------ From my Wycombe season ticket holder mate..... I think our expectations were too high, potential is there but never really shone at Wycombe, I must admit there used to be a huge collective sigh of relief when he wasnt on the team sheet , solid penalty taker and pretty good finisher...if he gets the ball rather than standing around with a gallic style shrug to the linesman or ref..., if he gets good service could have a good season, _______________ Sigh of relief when not on the team sheet seems not so good to me - but then of course I appear to be in a minority of one! you had 5 cast iron statements in that post(not sure about the galic shrug): 1 potential is there 2 solid penalty taker 3 pretty good finisher 4 huge collective sigh of relief when he wasnt on the team sheet 5 if he gets good service could have a good season why did you cherry pick the worst one?
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Post by venceremos on Jul 15, 2010 14:14:36 GMT 1
Is it possible to sign some new fans? We could send PB on trial somewhere else. Mind you, if their fans checked this board, they'd send him back. Just a thought ..... just thinking a similar thing! he would have to drop a level or 3, no way is he league 2 standard. he cant even spell players names ffs, schoolboy error! who would have him after making mistakes like that? i think we are stuck with him unless we could pay him off Worth a whip round and send him to Stockport? Only kidding hope2010, before you turn on me! Are you contemplating another name change by the way? Your new manager optimism seems to have withered away before we've started. Anyone would think you still had Simpson to moan about. No problem with criticism but it's just a bit silly to be so negative when Harrold hasn't played a game yet. I don't agree with a lot of opinions on here, so I'm certainly not going to assume agreement with fans on other clubs' boards. If they'd asked me, I'd have told Hereford fans not to expect too much from Pugh, ditto Accrington and Symes and no doubt lots of others. They seem happy with the deal they got though and the same could happen for us. Cheer up, it hasn't happened yet.
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Post by Shrewed on Jul 15, 2010 14:50:48 GMT 1
Only kidding hope2010, before you turn on me! Are you contemplating another name change by the way? Your new manager optimism seems to have withered away before we've started. Anyone would think you still had Simpson to moan about. Venceremos you are confusing Faith and Hope, I really hope Turner will do something about the lack of creativity, pace and goal scoring in the squad, however I do not have blind faith that will happen. I hope that MH will score 20 but his history to date suggests thats very unlikely. Some posters seem to want to bestow papal powers on Turner unfotunately I don't believe anyone is omnipotent. Last season we finished 12 is the team currently stronger in my opinion no. But I have hope it will be in in 3 weeks time.
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Post by mysticmurray on Jul 15, 2010 14:57:09 GMT 1
Diego Forlan. Man United.
Has watching ITV's coverage of the World Cup taught you nothing?
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Post by blum on Jul 15, 2010 14:58:02 GMT 1
If I was a player thinking over a move to STFC and happened to read some of the utter negative tripe both Peter and his brother ShrewEd then it would certainly make my mind up [img src="http://www.shropshire.btinternet.co.uk/smiley/ www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/mad/mad0223.gif"].gif [/img] Nothing like making a player feel welcome and settle in is there? Good luck MH and enjoy proving the idiot wrong [/quote] Absolutely BANG ON Rob, I have said it on here loads of times, god help a Salop player who has a bad couple of games, if he does then he's burgered.. Stop the bleedin witch hunts, support the team otherwise they may succumb to the pressure like Simmo jr etc. These are OUR players FGS.
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Post by Shrewed on Jul 15, 2010 15:05:42 GMT 1
If I was a player thinking over a move to STFC and happened to read some of the utter negative tripe both Peter and his brother ShrewEd then it would certainly make my mind up [img src="http://www.shropshire.btinternet.co.uk/smiley/ www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/mad/mad0223.gif"].gif [/img] Nothing like making a player feel welcome and settle in is there? Good luck MH and enjoy proving the idiot wrong [/quote] Absolutely BANG ON Rob, I have said it on here loads of times, god help a Salop player who has a bad couple of games, if he does then he's burgered.. Stop the bleedin witch hunts, support the team otherwise they may succumb to the pressure like Simmo jr etc. These are OUR players FGS. [/quote] Gerry Daly told me that the vast majority of fans make up their mind about a player after his first game and rarely change their opinion that was in 1985. Somethings never change. If you or Jonah really believe that players look at a web site before deciding whether to sign for a club you must live in cloud cockoo land.
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Post by Jonah on Jul 15, 2010 15:23:37 GMT 1
Absolutely BANG ON Rob, I have said it on here loads of times, god help a Salop player who has a bad couple of games, if he does then he's burgered.. Stop the bleedin witch hunts, support the team otherwise they may succumb to the pressure like Simmo jr etc. These are OUR players FGS. Gerry Daly told me that the vast majority of fans make up their mind about a player after his first game and rarely change their opinion that was in 1985. Somethings never change. If you or Jonah really believe that players look at a web site before deciding whether to sign for a club you must live in cloud cockoo land. There is only one brainless bird Ed and thats you Please read my thread again will you and then answer it in the correct context. Yet again you bring nothing but your negative gibberish to the board. As suggested and proved by previous posters that certain players actually improve with a move so lets hope MH is one of them. If you are off on holiday soon please take PB with you
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Post by monkee on Jul 15, 2010 15:39:18 GMT 1
Absolutely BANG ON Rob, I have said it on here loads of times, god help a Salop player who has a bad couple of games, if he does then he's burgered.. Stop the bleedin witch hunts, support the team otherwise they may succumb to the pressure like Simmo jr etc. These are OUR players FGS. Gerry Daly told me that the vast majority of fans make up their mind about a player after his first game and rarely change their opinion that was in 1985. Somethings never change. If you or Jonah really believe that players look at a web site before deciding whether to sign for a club you must live in cloud cockoo land. Gerry daley may know about football , tactics and players but wtf does he know about fans? footballers arent fans like the members on here or the normal chap going to the game. i wouldn't trust a players opinion on fans, over the actual fans themselves. on the second point, they may not look at a messageboard, but they will be well aware of whether a clubs supporters are harsh on their players or not.
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Post by limacharli on Jul 15, 2010 15:42:16 GMT 1
I was one of I suspect many when we saw Hibbo's name on the teamsheet at the beginning of last season and shuddered , but what a revelation how wrong we were and he went on to earn the club a few bob on his transfer to Posh. Dont write the bloke off we could have the next Beckham in Harrold he just has not played for the right side yet! I was hoping we could have got ALan Connell but I see he has signed for the Mariners, but there are other players out there on a free that could well sign and profit from Harrold as he is a good hold up player and V. good at set pieces ( something we missed since Ben Davies went ). Players that are available that have a pedigree are Barry Corr, Francis Jeffers Chris Killen and Keigan Parker any one of those would do for me. PB your beer mug is always half empty mate look at it from the other way it is half full .
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Post by Shrewed on Jul 15, 2010 15:43:11 GMT 1
There is only one brainless bird Ed and thats you Please read my thread again will you and then answer it in the correct context. Yet again you bring nothing but your negative gibberish to the board. As suggested and proved by previous posters that certain players actually improve with a move so lets hope MH is one of them. If you are off on holiday soon please take PB with you Unfortunately Jonah you are unlikely ever to get offered a contract at STFC so you wont have the opportunity to reject it because fans suggest you are useless. Strange how all the professional footballers I've met over the years say that the reason they join a club is money an prospects in that order. I'm afraid you are like the Ostrich constantly burying your head in the sand. Even Turner admits to being frustrated at how things have progressed.
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Post by The Shropshire Tenor on Jul 15, 2010 15:52:20 GMT 1
Am I right in saying two seasons ago when Wycombe went up they beat us 1-0 at the NM? I'm 99% sure Harrald scored the winner that day and I never forgot his performance, I gave him man of the match that day, looked a tidy player, I'm excited by this signing That's the only time I've seen him play, so based on that experience I am confident that he will score the winner every time he plays for us.
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