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Post by AFCBally on Apr 11, 2005 11:58:46 GMT 1
Just curious but since Peters has been in charge of you whats has his record been? i.e played ,won,drawn,lost etc?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2005 12:04:53 GMT 1
He has 8 wins to his name along with about 6 draws I think?
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Post by Chaz nli on Apr 11, 2005 12:05:51 GMT 1
Ok Bally- so where are you leading us with this? From some of your references in the past it seems you dont think Peters is the manager most of us think he is?
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Post by x emz x on Apr 11, 2005 12:10:45 GMT 1
won drawn lost 8 7 10 out of the 8 wins 7 have been at home, 1 away out of the draws 2 have been at home and 5 away out of the loses 4 have been at home 6 away. during all of this town have scored 30 and have conceeded 24
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Apr 11, 2005 12:11:14 GMT 1
we're a bit higher int he table than we started and so will remain Shropshire's only league club
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2005 12:11:15 GMT 1
Played 25, Won 8, Lost 10, Drawn 7 He's doing a superb job How many points do you now think we'll get until the end of the season considering we already have 2 more than your last prediction?
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Post by AFCBally on Apr 11, 2005 12:14:16 GMT 1
Ok Bally- so where are you leading us with this? From some of your references in the past it seems you dont think Peters is the manager most of us think he is? Chaz you are a bit sceptical i must say I am just curious to why some of you seem to think he can do no wrong?as its not a brilliant record he has at Shrews so far? When Quinn left what position were you then?
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Post by x emz x on Apr 11, 2005 12:15:35 GMT 1
bottom of the league at some point werent we!!
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Post by AFCBally on Apr 11, 2005 12:17:01 GMT 1
bottom of the league at some point werent we!! But when Quinn left?
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Post by Chaz nli on Apr 11, 2005 12:18:11 GMT 1
Your second statement shows why I questioned you motives Martin B did a comparison a couple of weeks back between Quinn and Peter's record- you have seen most of our home games havent you- you are not telling me you have not noticed a difference
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Post by Abbey Views on Apr 11, 2005 12:19:54 GMT 1
All hail Gary Peters.
how dare you question his management,
you know thats not allowed on here
hail hail GP
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Post by rob on Apr 11, 2005 12:20:21 GMT 1
Bryan Robson would kill for Gary Peters record...
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Post by x emz x on Apr 11, 2005 12:20:25 GMT 1
we we had 13 points and had only scored 16 times and conceeded 22. im sure we were bottom when he left.
**we WERE bottom when he left infact.
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Post by AFCBally on Apr 11, 2005 12:22:01 GMT 1
Your second statement shows why I questioned you motives Martin B did a comparison a couple of weeks back between Quinn and Peter's record- you have seen most of our home games havent you- you are not telling me you have not noticed a difference Lol Chaz i have seen 2 of your home games under Peters one you looked a good side against a poor looking Darlington, and the other you looked as bad as when Quinn was manager against Cambridge,
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Post by lazyshrew on Apr 11, 2005 12:40:31 GMT 1
Considering what Peters has to work with, it must be said the job he has done here is pretty impresive and wether he does leave us in the summer or not we should be grateful to him. He has set us up pretty well for the future even if he does go.
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Post by Steven Vaughan on Apr 11, 2005 13:08:14 GMT 1
Played 25, Won 8, Lost 10, Drawn 7 He's doing a superb job How many points do you now think we'll get until the end of the season considering we already have 2 more than your last prediction? Considering Ian Rush has been sacked by Chester he had a better record than that. Played 41 won 14 drew 13 lost 14 in all competions, if you used the league system of 3pts for a win and 1 for a draw the total points amassed would be 55pts an average of 1.34 pts per game. Compared to Peters record of played 25 won 8 drew 7 lost 10 the total points amassed would be 31 pts an average of 1.24 pts per game. Is Peters doing a good job, do you think Chester would even consider him with that record. At best Peters is an average manager.
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Post by lazyshrew on Apr 11, 2005 13:15:03 GMT 1
Considering Ian Rush has been sacked by Chester he had a better record than that. Played 41 won 14 drew 13 lost 14 in all competions, if you used the league system of 3pts for a win and 1 for a draw the total points amassed would be 55pts an average of 1.34 pts per game. Compared to Peters record of played 25 won 8 drew 7 lost 10 the total points amassed would be 31 pts an average of 1.24 pts per game. Is Peters doing a good job, do you think Chester would even consider him with that record. At best Peters is an average manager. The difference between Peters and Rush is that Rush had a decent squad to work with who should be much higher up in the diviusion. Peters IMO picked up a pretty dire squad and managed them very well. Chester - good players managed poorly Shrewsbury - poor players managed brilliantly. Hopefully changes will take place in the summer and we will have some decent players in and a good manager in peters.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2005 14:13:04 GMT 1
Peters has done a good job since he arrived. Virtually safe with several games of the season to go is a good return and I'm very happy with what he's doing on, and off the field - and don't forget that last bit. The big test for him will be the summer and then next season, and whether he can improve us considerably again and achieve mid-table or even higher. I'm very hopeful he can achieve that
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Post by timgallon on Apr 11, 2005 14:18:45 GMT 1
p**s off Bally we all know what you're up to.
Back to the glue league please and worry about your own lot.
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Post by The editor on Apr 11, 2005 14:29:12 GMT 1
Chester - good players Shrewsbury - poor players Hopefully changes will take place in the summer and we will have some decent players and a good manager.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2005 14:51:39 GMT 1
Who cares what Bally says? He supports a small, irrelevant club 6,000 leagues under us. He'll never realise what a hard job football league management is. He is obviously here to cause trouble- Ignore him, don't answer. Agree with him, smile, and he'll stop trying. We have a quality manager- Who is making a silk purse from a sours' ear, We know that- The players know that- The directors know that, and I think that even some of them know that. WE ARE FOOTBALL LEAGUE.
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Post by lazyshrew on Apr 11, 2005 15:00:39 GMT 1
Who cares what Bally says? He supports a small, irrelevant club 6,000 leagues under us. He'll never realise what a hard job football league management is. He is obviously here to cause trouble- Ignore him, don't answer. Agree with him, smile, and he'll stop trying. We have a quality manager- Who is making a silk purse from a sours' ear, We know that- The players know that- The directors know that, and I think that even some of them know that. WE ARE FOOTBALL LEAGUE.
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Post by CuyBlue NLI on Apr 11, 2005 16:00:36 GMT 1
Under Quinn, this season, we got 26% of maximum points; time under GP, we're currently at 42% of maximum points. Comparing the time in charge of the full-time managers, GP has done far better.
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Post by The Statatician on Apr 11, 2005 17:05:14 GMT 1
Under Quinn, this season, we got 26% of maximum points; time under GP, we're currently at 42% of maximum points. Comparing the time in charge of the full-time managers, GP has done far better. I love figures !!!!! If Gary Peters record is so good because he acheived 42% of the maximum points how must you feel if Chester sack their manager for acheiving a 45% return. Does this mean Shrewsbury have less ambition? or that you are just happy to be rid of JQ and will accept any thing that acheives a little bit more. Being honest have you done any better than under Ratcliffe ? Realise Peters is a stepping stone and not the Messiah!
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Apr 11, 2005 18:02:43 GMT 1
Rush took a championship winning squad and made it look very ordinary
Peters took a dejected bottom of the table squad and made it look ordinary
Only one of those is an achievement
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Post by CuyBlue on Apr 11, 2005 18:54:27 GMT 1
Assuming that Rush was in charge for the first 42 games this year -
42 games, 48 of 126 total pts, 39% gained.
I'd guess that over the last 3 months, GP has outperformed IR.
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Post by Dicky Knee on Apr 11, 2005 19:08:28 GMT 1
...and we sacked John Bond for just missing the play-offs! Oh! How times have changed
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2005 19:10:18 GMT 1
Why compare us to what is going on at Chester City, a crazy football club with tiny crowds, a nutty chairman and a side that lays down and dies in local derbies.
Quite simply, Gary P has made an incredible impact on our home playing performances. Over the last 10 games, we've amassed 20 points including a 5-0, a 4-2, a 4-1, a 4-0 and a 3-0. Also a 2-0 over Bristol rovers which was probably our most complete performance. Which is pretty remarkable given what we've had to put up with prior to that.
Away, he's had little impact but if he can rectify that, and bring in some more decent players, then I'm sure he can turn us into a mid-table side for next year.
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Post by chrisj on Apr 11, 2005 19:54:13 GMT 1
I love figures !!!!! If Gary Peters record is so good because he acheived 42% of the maximum points how must you feel if Chester sack their manager for acheiving a 45% return. Does this mean Shrewsbury have less ambition? or that you are just happy to be rid of JQ and will accept any thing that acheives a little bit more. Being honest have you done any better than under Ratcliffe ? Realise Peters is a stepping stone and not the Messiah! If you really were a statistician you'd be able to spell it.
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Post by harmerhillshrew on Apr 11, 2005 20:03:27 GMT 1
Dont forget the Histon debarcle also What Bally fails to grasp is the attitude of GP. Which is why I think alot of us are impressed with him. While Ratcliffe would be playing Golf or visiting Chester races, Quinn would be in some nightclub his mate owns, Gary Peters is out watching some reserve team game or visiting the youth at Walford. Anyway time will tell.
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