chrisj
Midland League Division Two
Just get on with it.
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Post by chrisj on Mar 22, 2005 18:04:52 GMT 1
Get out of bed the wrong side did we Chrisj?? Lost your sense of humour have we?? Just because I happen not to agree with your view its bollo* is it?? Fine if thats your opinion but at least have the decency to reply without the insults. Have you by any chance driven down the A10 lately? Never forget my 11 year old coming out with 'Why are there no white people Dad' last time I did it. Secondly give me your expert insight into race relation between Blacks and Pakistanis in Walsall please. Be interested to see if you understand the full implication of todays multi racial youth and how they see the future. 1. Get out of bed same side every day. 2. Great sense of humour - known for it; just don't find racism that funny really. 3.Don't have to agree with me, but to say Aryan Chimp is talking sense is, in fact, bollox. See the reasons I gave. 4. Don't know where the A10 is, but as I live in a multi-racial city, don't lecture me on what it's like. What did you reply to your kid? Why does it matter so very much that in that location he couldn't see a white face? Would he ask "Why are there no black faces?" if you drove through Cirencester? Do you actually understand why minority groups prefer to live together in tight communities - all over the world? They can't win can they? You don't want them living near you, but you also object to them living togther. Better when you've sent them back where they came from, eh? 5. What a stupid question. If you mean that not all black people like or get along with each other, well gee-****in'-whizz Einstein. And your point is? Surely not that racism is justified 'cause "they" don't all get along? That would really be talking sh!te, wouldn't it? Be honest with yourself, if not with the rest of us. You clearly have an problem with race, otherwise you wouldn't have jumped into a thread to take issue with MeoleShrew's point that he enjoys being part of a racially and culturally diverse society. You've also chosen to defend a racist prick and I find you can often judge people by the company they keep.
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Post by Jonah on Mar 22, 2005 18:17:42 GMT 1
Blood8 hell bundle of fun you are
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Post by islay malt on Mar 22, 2005 19:05:00 GMT 1
I really love this site Nowhere else quite like it that I've found. Just a small point, as none of you seem to need much help, but does anyone realy believe that Brits, from the days of the 'Empire' to the retired folk now living on the Costa Del Sol, actually set up their homes in 'local' areas and mix with the local poulation. Or that Ex-Pats in Australia, don't support the 'Poms' in the ashes? Think about it.
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Post by harmerhillshrew on Mar 22, 2005 19:08:11 GMT 1
I really love this site Nowhere else quite like it that I've found. You should see it when we get out for a few beers
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Post by Aryanimp on Mar 22, 2005 19:54:33 GMT 1
Jonah's back, and still spouting bollox. The Gimp hasn't made any good points because he's telling lies - lies about immigration, lies about asylum, lies about race and lies about the true nature of the BNP. They have this tactic of trying to appear reasonable but the mask slips from time to time. www.searchlightmagazine.com/stopthebnp/uncovered/pg06.htmHaven't you noticed that neither Cynical or the Gimp will answer any of my questions? Don't believe everything you read. I'm not 'protected from race issues' where I live, and I'm fine with it. Where have I lied Chris? Please point out where in this thread and I'll re-address this question. Talking of questions you've only just joined this thread and havn't asked me anything? All you have spouted so far is Anti-Nazi League propoganda with needless insults.
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Post by Aryanimp on Mar 22, 2005 19:55:47 GMT 1
It seems I owe you an apology Aryanimp. I thought you were our resident BNP member Cynical Shrew who doesnt register with us, just posts as a guest and has been known to post under different names from time to time. Sorry Apology accepted
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Post by Aryanimp on Mar 22, 2005 20:08:12 GMT 1
Im not saying for a moment that people cant celebrate St Goerges Day, go ahead, fine by me. But you cant force people can you. Can you give me a reason why i should. Like i said, im not a patriot, im not that way inclined. I'm not forcing people to do anything, I just feel that we English are made through the Establishment to feel ashamed for being 'white & English' in our own country, whereas Red Ken positively encourages The Irish to celebrate St Patricks Day in our Capital City. How do you celebrate St Georges day. How do you define British/English? As for celebrating the day, usually with a traditional meal with family & friends. The kids dress up and have their faces painted etc........... with lots of real ale and cider flowing! Let me ask you a question. If you were celebrating St Georges Day and you organised a parade through Lincoln. You have a group of Old Soldiers who fought for us in the War but just happened to be black, would you invite them to join your parade? As for organising a parade, we tend to keep it a private affair but who knows one day, April 23rd will become a public holiday and this will change hopefully. www.bombardier.co.uk/verify.php?id=6400525
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Post by Aryanimp on Mar 22, 2005 20:22:28 GMT 1
Apologies for hogging this thread, but just clearing up a few points raised. I hate to shatter those who are quick to insult on here, but I am in fact a 45 y.o Primary School teacher. I'll be honest that I trained/have grown up with the 'left wing' agenda forced through the education system so understand where Sister pab is coming from. Ideally a lot of what he/she says has some substance, but in reality it has failed generations of children (in my opinion). Several years ago I decided to look at the opposite viewpoint and was amazed at how this information is suppressed, (thank heavens for the Internet eh?). I found it sits far more comfortably with me and how I bring my children up. They don't 'hate' but are confident and proud of who they are. I will not give any further personal details out as 'searchlight' will be on a mission and I'll be thrown out of the Union......... some democracy eh? Having said that I would never bring my politics into the classroom, despite the opposite side being indoctrined all around kids. Hopefully oneday the roles will be reversed
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Post by Cynical Shrew on Mar 22, 2005 20:31:23 GMT 1
usual tripe removed
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Post by pawlo on Mar 22, 2005 20:45:09 GMT 1
Im not saying for a moment that people cant celebrate St Goerges Day, go ahead, fine by me. But you cant force people can you. Can you give me a reason why i should. Like i said, im not a patriot, im not that way inclined. I'm not forcing people to do anything, I just feel that we English are made through the Establishment to feel ashamed for being 'white & English' in our own country, whereas Red Ken positively encourages The Irish to celebrate St Patricks Day in our Capital City. How do you celebrate St Georges day. How do you define British/English? As for celebrating the day, usually with a traditional meal with family & friends. The kids dress up and have their faces painted etc........... with lots of real ale and cider flowing! Let me ask you a question. If you were celebrating St Georges Day and you organised a parade through Lincoln. You have a group of Old Soldiers who fought for us in the War but just happened to be black, would you invite them to join your parade? As for organising a parade, we tend to keep it a private affair but who knows one day, April 23rd will become a public holiday and this will change hopefully. www.bombardier.co.uk/verify.php?id=6400525Although i despice your politics for at least having the guts and honesty to give your age and occupation, which is more than can be said for Genital shrew Perhaps we are not ashamed, just feel that our history and dignity speaks for itself. We are not a nation of self obsessed morons like the yanks, i dont get up in the morning and salute the flag. I cant help thinking you are trying to turn us into something that by nature we are not. I dont drink and generally eat traditional foods anyway, although been known to eat the odd indian,chinese and greek feast How do you define english? Would you invite the black ex soldiers on your march, be hypothetical if you like.
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Post by pawlo on Mar 22, 2005 20:47:34 GMT 1
One, it gets an easy Pavlovian response from lefties. Two, black players are typically massively over-rated - . Its stunningly childish! So are white players. Was Pele overated?
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Post by jamo on Mar 22, 2005 20:48:58 GMT 1
Putting aside your rather obvious attempts at provoking a certain response to your political ramblings Enoch your ingorance of football in this country is truely shocking.
To state in any public forum that Ince and Walker are the only two black players worthy of merit is hold your views up to ridicule. The list is long and rich from the early pioneers such as Johannson, Charles and Best right through to todays contenders such as Wright-Phillips and Defoe. I welcome and value all their contributions to our game and hope that it continues for ever.
As for black players behaving in a way that is somehow different to the "master race". Can i point you in the direction of messers Bowya, Woodgate, Terry, Morris, Adams et al.
Stick to marching and leave the football to those of us that appreciate skill and artistry in a competitive setting.
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Post by meoleshrew2 on Mar 22, 2005 20:51:02 GMT 1
Whats your blog address Cynic? if you havent got one you must, although I have already read most of your musings on other blogging sites, nearly word for word i'm sure you could add alot to the blogging world. You need to update some bits though, the Englishmen bit, would now be English family, unless to be a football supporter you are required to be a man rather than female?
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Post by The Shropshire Tenor on Mar 22, 2005 21:06:25 GMT 1
I so meant to keep out of this, but I'm confused... CS equates immigration to genocide, but when I asked on an earlier thread why he refused to answer a question about the holocaust he said it was because it bored him. As for black players being over rated Next he is going to tell us that they have no bottle and can't play in the cold. That's what his ilk told us in the '70's when black players were actively discrimated against. Football is a meritocracy, if you can't perform you're not in and if you can you are - regardless of your behaviour. That's how people like Pennant, Bowyer, Lee Hughes etc have made a handsome living despite being the sort of people you'd cross the road to avoid.
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Post by Aryanimp on Mar 22, 2005 22:31:16 GMT 1
I cant help thinking you are trying to turn us into something that by nature we are not. So you are a conservative after all albeit in nature (joke ) Got to admit I'm no tubthumping Yank myself, so bloody egotistical and overbearing. I dont drink and generally eat traditional foods anyway, although been known to eat the odd indian,chinese and greek feast Very good, I cook myself albeit with fresh ingredients and wouldn't touch or let my kids (when they were young) eat junk food from fast food outlets. Hence they are in excellent physical shape unlike many of their obese/slovenly peers! How do you define english? Thats a rhetorical question. Would you invite the black ex soldiers on your march, be hypothetical if you like. The only war where our shores were threatened was WW2 and even then due to my readings of Revisionist History, I have my doubts as to whether we were led into it on another false premise. Michael Walsh's 'The Thinking man's Hitler' and 'Witness to History' provide startling facts. Did/were there any black soldiers from the UK taking part is debatable. The chap awarded the VC the other day, was indeed a brave and courageous chap who has my respect. The fact it was the first awarded since 1982 and not posthumously could be regarded as an insult to many others who have died since The Falklands conflict. A war I agreed with as our territory was threatened incidently. Call me a cynic but a degree of Political Correctness could be attributed to this award, discuss?
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Post by Cynical Shrew on Mar 22, 2005 22:38:33 GMT 1
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Post by aleix on Mar 22, 2005 22:43:27 GMT 1
heil hitler!
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Post by Cynical Shrew on Mar 22, 2005 22:49:15 GMT 1
Apologies for hogging this thread, but just clearing up a few points raised. I hate to shatter those who are quick to insult on here, but I am in fact a 45 y.o Primary School teacher. I'll be honest that I trained/have grown up with the 'left wing' agenda forced through the education system so understand where Sister pab is coming from. Ideally a lot of what he/she says has some substance, but in reality it has failed generations of children (in my opinion). Several years ago I decided to look at the opposite viewpoint and was amazed at how this information is suppressed, (thank heavens for the Internet eh?). I found it sits far more comfortably with me and how I bring my children up. They don't 'hate' but are confident and proud of who they are. I will not give any further personal details out as 'searchlight' will be on a mission and I'll be thrown out of the Union......... some democracy eh? Having said that I would never bring my politics into the classroom, despite the opposite side being indoctrined all around kids. Hopefully oneday the roles will be reversed Some interesting posts <ahem!> 'Aryanimp', but why fall into the trap of self-justification? We are the sane and rational ones (kind of) in a western society where the conservative gut-feeling of the majority has been hijacked by those at his head. If you can articulate why you want your children to have some sort of future does it matter if you are a taxi-driver, dustman or brain-surgeon? Why go on the defensive.?
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Post by meoleshrew2 on Mar 22, 2005 22:53:40 GMT 1
My deleted post contained the following premise. Beware it is so evil that you may not want your young daughters to see it. 1) Black players tend to be over-rated. 2) They are over-rated because the establishment has an agenda to promote multi-racialism. Shocking! Seen these words already, find some new ones, yawn on a site dated november 2004
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Post by Cynical Shrew on Mar 22, 2005 23:04:30 GMT 1
Seen these words already, find some new ones, yawn on a site dated november 2004 Someone on this thread was asking why I don't think Emile Heskey is the best thing since Gary Linekar. They musn'y have seen my earlier reasoning, so I kindly filled them in.
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Post by meoleshrew2 on Mar 22, 2005 23:08:06 GMT 1
Someone on this thread was asking why I don't think Emile Heskey is the best thing since Gary Linekar. They musn'y have seen my earlier reasoning, so I kindly filled them in. what book do you take your musings out of, perhaps to stave of the boredom you could alternate with your fellow racists and swap
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Post by The Shropshire Tenor on Mar 23, 2005 0:10:21 GMT 1
Cynical tells us that there is an Establishment plot to favour black players, he also tells us that he doesn't watch football any more. So, our Swedish manager is part of the English establishment plot And how does Cynical know that Heskey is no good if he doesn't watch football David Moyes must also be a plotter because he starts Bent ahead of Beattie and Fergusson, but Moyes is a Scot. Perhaps he is plotting to undermine English football - devious eh?
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Post by pawlo on Mar 23, 2005 0:49:20 GMT 1
Well Ladies and Gentlemen, 8 pages and 111 replies ago i asked cynical shrew 5 straight forward, non revealing everyday kind of questions in a non threatening, non judgemental way. He has posted 9 times on this thread, and not one of his replies answers the questions i asked of him. So i will thank Aryanimp for joining in the debate and thank him for being man enough to show some courage of his conviction, by sharing something of himself with the rest of us. Do you think a moderator could now "lock" this thread.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Mar 23, 2005 0:54:35 GMT 1
I can only move it or stick it to the top sorry
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Post by aleix on Mar 23, 2005 0:58:22 GMT 1
Stick it in the juicy posts forum
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Post by MartinB on Mar 23, 2005 7:55:09 GMT 1
Sister PAB now you see why I always call him/her Coward Shrew.
Only have the same access as TBH.
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Post by harmerhillshrew on Mar 23, 2005 9:19:16 GMT 1
Do you think a moderator could now "lock" this thread. I could if I wanted to but why As you pointed out Pab, CS has not answered any of your questions. Surely that shows him for the idiot he is. As long as he keeps replying the bigger the hole he digs.
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Post by islay malt on Mar 23, 2005 9:33:12 GMT 1
It's amusing to note that the cynical loser even has to have a go at Aryanimp, a supposed ally. Must be something in his make-up. I bet parties at his house are a real hoot.
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Post by meoleshrew2 on Mar 23, 2005 9:39:08 GMT 1
I could if I wanted to but why As you pointed out Pab, CS has not answered any of your questions. Surely that shows him for the idiot he is. As long as he keeps replying the bigger the hole he digs. Andrew, he can't answer the questions, because the answers are not in the "****witts guide to racism" I have read a stack of sites all containing this garbage over the past few days and i'm not joking when I say that you can pick paragraphs from all of them and they nearly word for word the same as CS posts. I would have no objection if the threads were removed as well as any further posts from CS and his ilk. He has nothing new to say so It could be seen as a wast of board space ;D
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Post by harmerhillshrew on Mar 23, 2005 9:52:11 GMT 1
You must respected 'free speech'
I think you should let him have his say and then point out he is wrong.
As I have said before, the young and the impressionable need to be shown that CS and his ilk are wrong.
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