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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2019 22:31:42 GMT 1
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Nov 26, 2019 23:17:17 GMT 1
Wish them all the best but financing a complete new stadium is one hell of an outlay for clubs at our level. (Another reason we should be very thankful of what RW has done for us over the years).
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Post by Dale on Nov 27, 2019 7:10:01 GMT 1
I’m sure they’ve already sold their current ground to Chelsea... I thought that would have covered the building of the new stadium along with any grants or loans?
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Post by lenny on Nov 27, 2019 7:26:38 GMT 1
I’m sure they’ve already sold their current ground to Chelsea... I thought that would have covered the building of the new stadium along with any grants or loans? Isn't part of the problem that they don't own Kingsmeadow?
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Post by wakemanender on Nov 27, 2019 8:51:56 GMT 1
Maybe the couple who have just won the euro millions jackpot can help if they are football fans. Wimbledon are one of a handful of lower league clubs I would consider a deserving cause.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Nov 27, 2019 9:02:15 GMT 1
I’m sure they’ve already sold their current ground to Chelsea... I thought that would have covered the building of the new stadium along with any grants or loans? Isn't part of the problem that they don't own Kingsmeadow? I suspect the vast majority of clubs at our level have managed the move through the sale of their old ground. Without that it'll be one hell of a task. Has to ring alarm bells for any fan when a club no longer has ownership of their stadium. Wish them well anyhow.
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Post by Mortgagehound on Nov 27, 2019 9:55:00 GMT 1
Why are they £11 million short to finish the project? - surely this was all budgeted for at the outset . The article doesn't explain
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Post by LetchworthShrew on Nov 27, 2019 11:00:51 GMT 1
I’m sure they’ve already sold their current ground to Chelsea... I thought that would have covered the building of the new stadium along with any grants or loans? Isn't part of the problem that they don't own Kingsmeadow? They don't own it now. They sold it to Chelsea a while ago.
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Post by LetchworthShrew on Nov 27, 2019 11:20:36 GMT 1
Why are they £11 million short to finish the project? - surely this was all budgeted for at the outset . The article doesn't explain They raised the money through crowdfunding and the american author and fan (he sponsors the stand with the away seats in it), John Green, pledged a significant amount so that they hit their target and were able to start the building work. I assume this was phase 1 which was 10,000 seats. It would appear that the cost of that work has increased by £11m.
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Nov 27, 2019 11:25:15 GMT 1
Why are they £11 million short to finish the project? - surely this was all budgeted for at the outset . The article doesn't explain Hugely common with big infrastructure projects (HS2, cross rail) even for house builders on estates costs spiral. Steel, materials, unknown issues discovered in surveys and during the planning process and much much more... Recently been working in Kent on projects and there is always tak of a parkway station being built. Originally it was 11 million, then up to neary 20 million. Now its at £35 and essentially unfundable.... theisleofthanetnews.com/2019/11/16/thanet-parkway-station-costs-expected-to-spiral-to-345million/An interesting costs when people bring up a park way station by the ground. Even 11 minion is prohibitively expensive.
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Post by northwestman on Nov 27, 2019 12:27:40 GMT 1
Why are they £11 million short to finish the project? - surely this was all budgeted for at the outset . The article doesn't explain They raised the money through crowdfunding and the american author and fan (he sponsors the stand with the away seats in it), John Green, pledged a significant amount so that they hit their target and were able to start the building work. I assume this was phase 1 which was 10,000 seats. It would appear that the cost of that work has increased by £11m.
I'd say option 3 is the best choice.
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Post by ssshrew on Nov 27, 2019 13:28:59 GMT 1
It does look as if option 3 is their best hope. Perhaps that nice man In Milton Keynes would like to make an anonymous, no strings attached, sorry for what I did to you donation. No I thought not!
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Post by Pilch on Nov 27, 2019 16:40:25 GMT 1
It does look as if option 3 is their best hope. Perhaps that nice man In Milton Keynes would like to make an anonymous, no strings attached, sorry for what I did to you donation. No I thought not! im curious to whether a real original Wimbledon fan would prefer Winkleman never came along or whether they actually had more fun going the route they did, only they could answer this if they could travel back in time and choose, I wonder which option they would choose lets face it, they were a club punching well above their weight and £ would have caught up with them at some point
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Post by ssshrew on Nov 27, 2019 17:13:25 GMT 1
True the trouble is that hindsight is a wonderful thing so they would probably have gone with Winkkeman.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Nov 28, 2019 9:53:31 GMT 1
I know projects overrun but £11 million seems a bit excessive.
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Post by Mortgagehound on Nov 28, 2019 10:17:52 GMT 1
This story highlights the shortcomings of ‘fan owned’ clubs.
Much as we might dislike it, when there are financial problems rarely can fans alone plug the shortage of cash
I wish them well and hope they can finish what looks like a fab stadium
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Post by welshshrew on Nov 28, 2019 12:52:50 GMT 1
This story highlights the shortcomings of ‘fan owned’ clubs. Much as we might dislike it, when there are financial problems rarely can fans alone plug the shortage of cash I wish them well and hope they can finish what looks like a fab stadium No it doesn’t. it highlights the issues with construction projects when the contract for build hasn’t been completed and risk lies with organisation commissioning the build. I can provide you with a bunch of similar examples of budget overruns prior to and during build, some of which - in the case of the non fan owned Chesterfield - have proved disastrous.
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Post by Mortgagehound on Nov 28, 2019 17:26:33 GMT 1
This story highlights the shortcomings of ‘fan owned’ clubs. Much as we might dislike it, when there are financial problems rarely can fans alone plug the shortage of cash I wish them well and hope they can finish what looks like a fab stadium No it doesn’t. it highlights the issues with construction projects when the contract for build hasn’t been completed risk lies with organisation commissioning the build. I can provide you with a bunch of similar examples of budget overruns prior to and during build, some of which - in the case of the non fan owned Chesterfield - have proved disastrous. Yes it does. If the club had an owner with deep pockets the problem may well have been solved. As it is the normal fans do not have the cash
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Post by Namur on Nov 28, 2019 18:13:30 GMT 1
It does look as if option 3 is their best hope. Perhaps that nice man In Milton Keynes would like to make an anonymous, no strings attached, sorry for what I did to you donation. No I thought not! im curious to whether a real original Wimbledon fan would prefer Winkleman never came along or whether they actually had more fun going the route they did, only they could answer this if they could travel back in time and choose, I wonder which option they would choose lets face it, they were a club punching well above their weight and £ would have caught up with them at some point Interesting point. For all of the ‘Franchise FC’ remarks, it’s fair to say Wimbledon were on borrowed time. I think meant of the sensible fans have drawn a line under the whole MK Dons thing, the new club has risen to a level where they’ve rivalled MK. AFC were happy to turf out the stock car racing at Wimbledon Stadium for this to happen, as someone involved in motorsport, frankly I’m not too sad to hear this news.
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Post by gainsparkshrew on Nov 28, 2019 18:52:40 GMT 1
AFC were happy to turf out the stock car racing at Wimbledon Stadium for this to happen, as someone involved in motorsport, frankly I’m not too sad to hear this news. Didn't they also turf Kingstonian FC, once a decent Conference level team,out of Kings meadow as well?
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Post by Namur on Nov 28, 2019 20:13:51 GMT 1
AFC were happy to turf out the stock car racing at Wimbledon Stadium for this to happen, as someone involved in motorsport, frankly I’m not too sad to hear this news. Didn't they also turf Kingstonian FC, once a decent Conference level team,out of Kings meadow as well? Seems quite a complicated mess with Kingstonian, but yes they certainly helped. AFC fans certainly get salty when challenged about it on social media etc. It’s all starting to get a little too self-righteous now. Things like refusing to print the MK name on the match programmes.
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Post by welshshrew on Nov 28, 2019 23:18:13 GMT 1
No it doesn’t. it highlights the issues with construction projects when the contract for build hasn’t been completed risk lies with organisation commissioning the build. I can provide you with a bunch of similar examples of budget overruns prior to and during build, some of which - in the case of the non fan owned Chesterfield - have proved disastrous. Yes it does. If the club had an owner with deep pockets the problem may well have been solved. As it is the normal fans do not have the cash The Chesterfield owner had deep pockets. You on the other hand simply talk deep b******s.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Nov 29, 2019 11:01:28 GMT 1
AFC were happy to turf out the stock car racing at Wimbledon Stadium for this to happen, as someone involved in motorsport, frankly I’m not too sad to hear this news. Didn't they also turf Kingstonian FC, once a decent Conference level team,out of Kings meadow as well?
My understanding is that Kingstonian were losing the ground already when AFC bought it.
They let them play there at peppercorn rent etc.
Then when they sold the ground to Chelsea it was Chelsea who evicted Kingstonian.
Kingstonian got screwed by a dodgy owner, and it was AFC being involved in the stadium that helped them continue for a while longer.
That is why AFC fans get salty on social media when challenged about it, because it is basically a smear regurgitated by MK Dons fans.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2020 13:11:16 GMT 1
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Post by aghabullogueshrew on Jan 20, 2020 11:21:27 GMT 1
I really hope that Wimbledon do get back to Plough Lane. I also hope they then arrange a pre-season friendly against MK Franchise, but I can't see that happening!
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Post by Pilch on Jan 20, 2020 11:24:28 GMT 1
probably been up by now had they opted for a lego stadium without corners filled in ;-)
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Post by ssshrew on Jan 20, 2020 12:15:34 GMT 1
I really hope that Wimbledon do get back to Plough Lane. I also hope they then arrange a pre-season friendly against MK Franchise, but I can't see that happening! Whatever else it might be - I doubt friendly would be the word to describe it!!!
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Post by accordingtome on Jan 20, 2020 14:37:48 GMT 1
probably been up by now had they opted for a lego stadium without corners filled in ;-) would be windy and soul-less then.Foresight to build a proper stadium. So it's gone over budget? Should have had Pilch managing budget, could have done HS2 at same time
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Post by Pilch on Jan 20, 2020 15:13:53 GMT 1
probably been up by now had they opted for a lego stadium without corners filled in ;-) would be windy and soul-less then.Foresight to build a proper stadium. So it's gone over budget? Should have had Pilch managing budget, could have done HS2 at same time did you ever go to bolton when we played them on Boxing Day ? it was the most windiest stadium I'd ever been in, it was quite painful in fact, never wanted a final whistle more than that day far windier inside the ground than outside it and yet, best looking ground I've been to in recent seasons too ps I used to work for the railway and saved them over 100K the last year I was there with software I wrote that they continue to use
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Post by Dale on Jan 20, 2020 16:11:49 GMT 1
would be windy and soul-less then.Foresight to build a proper stadium. So it's gone over budget? Should have had Pilch managing budget, could have done HS2 at same time did you ever go to bolton when we played them on Boxing Day ? it was the most windiest stadium I'd ever been in, it was quite painful in fact, never wanted a final whistle more than that day far windier inside the ground than outside it and yet, best looking ground I've been to in recent seasons too ps I used to work for the railway and saved them over 100K the last year I was there with software I wrote that they continue to use I remember that Boxing Day at Bolton, definitely one of the coldest days I’ve ever felt at a game, remember sheltering for cover at half time in the concourse with my dad.
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