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Post by Pilch on Aug 10, 2019 16:57:36 GMT 1
b******s, same as last week but the other way around, maybe even more so
the only positive is we maybe should only have 2 points now but have 3
but could have 6
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oh well
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Post by criftins on Aug 10, 2019 16:57:41 GMT 1
Very good travelling numbers. Sounds like we’ve had the best chances so expecting this will finish 1-0 to the home side. You’re so right on all three points
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2019 16:57:49 GMT 1
Back down to earth with a bump 😕
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Post by electrum on Aug 10, 2019 16:59:27 GMT 1
“Bump”
That familiar back to earth sound.
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Post by northwestman on Aug 10, 2019 16:59:49 GMT 1
only a point lost...look on the bright side.
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Post by shrewsace on Aug 10, 2019 17:01:13 GMT 1
🤦♂️
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2019 17:01:33 GMT 1
Very good travelling numbers. Sounds like we’ve had the best chances so expecting this will finish 1-0 to the home side. You’re so right on all three points Used to it the last couple of season. Don’t do as many away games as I used to so listen at home. Quite often Radio Shropshire talk us up as he better side but then we concede, just seems inevitable. Oh and I know it’s their job, but I was physically cringing every time the lads on Radio Shropshire said ‘dons’. I refuse to call them that personally and I’m amazed they still haven’t dropped the dons from their name.
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Post by TheFoz on Aug 10, 2019 17:06:22 GMT 1
Thought we stepped up our game in the second half. We were the better side and got very unlucky with that late goal.
My player ratings:
O Leary - 6 didn’t have much to do and was unlucky with the goal.Distribution was good too.
Love - 7 solid performance, found himself in some good positions. I think he needs more confidence to take on a player though. Williams - N/A Injured early on. Pierre - 7 Reads the game well and looks good with the ball at his feet EEL - 6 solid but will be disappointed with their goal Giles - 8 MOTM - a constant threat and delivered some great crosses into the box
Edwards - 5 runs around a lot, but he needs to offer more than just that. McCormick - 3 anonymous and wasteful when he had the ball. Really poor and needs to step up his game. Vincelot - 7 Played a few nice balls and good challenges. Composed on the ball.
Whalley - 8 Typical Whalley performance, always looking to run at defenders and make something happen. Morison- 5 not in the game at all and missed a good chance from 6 yards out.
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Beckles 6 - did everything he had to, slotted in well. Walker 6 - only on for a short while and did ok. Okenabirhie 6 - didn’t affect the game, in the limited time that he came in for.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2019 17:13:10 GMT 1
Swings and roundabouts.
It's all very well putting in great crosses, but our players need to be on the end of them.
Hope RSW is ok.
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Post by tvor on Aug 10, 2019 17:14:32 GMT 1
Indeed, the boot is on the other foot from last Saturday. We probably should have started the season with two 0-0 draws on balance but one win and one defeat is better in terms of points.
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Post by shrewswolf on Aug 10, 2019 18:10:27 GMT 1
It us 35 minutes but we utilised the wing backs at last, which was good to see. Giles & Love were both good, as were the centre halves (namely Pierre) and Whalley.
We’re 2 or 3 central midfielders short of a quality 3 5 2. None of the current three are good enough to consistently control games & that’s with Vincelot being the ‘best’ of them but it’s just too passive, ineffective and overran in there a lot of the time. They’re working incredibly hard which combined with our solid defence is giving us a chance in games for now... it won’t be enough over 46.
Midfield additions required as much as another body up top.
Funnily enough, though, our limitations still managed to be comfortably the best team today by the end. I think MK Dons will struggle massively based on that. We robbed some points last week and found ourselves unfortunate today. Up to Roland which way this season goes I think..
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Post by pughywasfree on Aug 10, 2019 18:53:58 GMT 1
They’re working incredibly hard which combined with our solid defence is giving us a chance in games for now... it won’t be enough over 46. Worked well enough two seasons ago
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Post by harboroughshrew on Aug 10, 2019 19:15:22 GMT 1
Cannot agree that we were the better side - they pushed us right back for most of the second half. Whalley's strengths are largely negated playing in a front two. We are competent in midfield but not creative and need to improve upfront if we are to be a force in this league.
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Post by tvor on Aug 10, 2019 19:24:57 GMT 1
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Post by Stowmarket Shrew on Aug 10, 2019 19:37:58 GMT 1
Just home, and not sure really what to make of that. We were 2nd best for much of the game and found chances hard to come by, we also lacked quality in the final third and far too often our final ball let us down. Giles looked very good going forward which is promising and Whalley offered us something Fej didn't last week. I also thought Pierre was outstanding and Beckles strong when he came on.
But, we didn't really do enough to win, albeit to lose was slightly cruel, not least that we limited their chances generally quite effectively. I think we need Laurent and Norburn back until we can really judge this team. Those two and, sadly, Grant would completely change the way this team play as, again, we offered too little in the middle.
I think if you'd have offered me three points from two games at the outset I'd have been quite happy with that, and with a home game next week things could be a lot worse.
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Post by percy on Aug 10, 2019 19:46:53 GMT 1
Only watching on iFollow, but it looked like Love had a much better game today. Thought all were good - McCormick and Morrison were the obvious subs as they were the weakest links - Morrison more so in the second half.
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Post by Exkeeper on Aug 10, 2019 20:09:22 GMT 1
Annoying that we kept playing the ball in the air, particularly the midfield which is nigh on criminal in windy conditions. Get the ball down and play it on the deck. As Mr Clough once said, “ if God had wanted football played in the sky, he would have put grass up there”.
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Post by shrewblue on Aug 10, 2019 20:09:50 GMT 1
Need at least one more midfielder plus Laurent and Norburn to come back and crying out for a pacey striker...also concerned about the lack of cover at right back.
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Post by masshrop on Aug 10, 2019 20:46:00 GMT 1
easier to head it away than do that poor goal but always in danger of losing a goal when cant score , need a striker & 2 midfielders quickly as we create next to nothing
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Post by thesalmon on Aug 10, 2019 21:19:32 GMT 1
Horrible goal to concede. Shame Edwards hit the bar from 3 yards out otherwise would have been a tremendous first couple of games
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Post by staffordshrew on Aug 10, 2019 21:30:23 GMT 1
Morison a bit of a worry, expected more, but somehow had an off day.
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Post by salop999 on Aug 10, 2019 21:34:44 GMT 1
Annoying that we kept playing the ball in the air, particularly the midfield which is nigh on criminal in windy conditions. Get the ball down and play it on the deck. As Mr Clough once said, “ if God had wanted football played in the sky, he would have put grass up there”. You don't sign players like Morison, or play like we did at Accrington last season, if you're planning on playing it on the floor. We're borderline hoofball. There is going to be some unhappy fans this season.
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Post by Exkeeper on Aug 10, 2019 23:03:36 GMT 1
Annoying that we kept playing the ball in the air, particularly the midfield which is nigh on criminal in windy conditions. Get the ball down and play it on the deck. As Mr Clough once said, “ if God had wanted football played in the sky, he would have put grass up there”. You don't sign players like Morison, or play like we did at Accrington last season, if you're planning on playing it on the floor. We're borderline hoofball. There is going to be some unhappy fans this season. Can’t agree with that. The balls in the air were not long aimless punts, they were 20 or 30 yards to team mates, made by players who had not taken a first touch to control the ball, before laying it off. Morison was actually starved of any kind of decent service, because most of the crosses were either too low or over hit, with not much in between. Once the midfield is back to strength and an additional pay No 9 is brought in, we will see the best of Morrison. The wind ruined the game asa spectacle - walking across the car park after the game, it really was two steps forward and one step back..
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Post by shrewswolf on Aug 10, 2019 23:52:39 GMT 1
They’re working incredibly hard which combined with our solid defence is giving us a chance in games for now... it won’t be enough over 46. Worked well enough two seasons ago I’m quite aware that we had tremendous success by being hard to beat, ridiculously good with the pressing game and effective on the counter attack, but McCormick, Vincelot and Edwards are not Ogogo Nolan & Godfrey, are they? Hence my point above. We don’t keep possession long enough & the only harrying is Vincelot on the edge of his own box or chasing someone that’s already past him. Midfield is weak & it won’t survive 44 more like the 2 that have just been and gone, imo.
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Post by shrewswolf on Aug 10, 2019 23:53:48 GMT 1
Just home, and not sure really what to make of that. We were 2nd best for much of the game and found chances hard to come by, we also lacked quality in the final third and far too often our final ball let us down. Giles looked very good going forward which is promising and Whalley offered us something Fej didn't last week. I also thought Pierre was outstanding and Beckles strong when he came on. But, we didn't really do enough to win, albeit to lose was slightly cruel, not least that we limited their chances generally quite effectively. I think we need Laurent and Norburn back until we can really judge this team. Those two and, sadly, Grant would completely change the way this team play as, again, we offered too little in the middle. I think if you'd have offered me three points from two games at the outset I'd have been quite happy with that, and with a home game next week things could be a lot worse. Not just me that wants Askey’s midfield back then? Funny old game.
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Post by claphamshrew on Aug 11, 2019 1:34:37 GMT 1
Worked well enough two seasons ago I’m quite aware that we had tremendous success by being hard to beat, ridiculously good with the pressing game and effective on the counter attack, but McCormick, Vincelot and Edwards are not Ogogo Nolan & Godfrey, are they? Hence my point above. We don’t keep possession long enough & the only harrying is Vincelot on the edge of his own box or chasing someone that’s already past him. Midfield is weak & it won’t survive 44 more like the 2 that have just been and gone, imo. But you’re comparing our second string midfield now with our first choice midfield of two years ago. I wouldn’t be surprised to see a midfield three of Laurent, Norburn and Whalley when everyone is fit.
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Post by wayahead on Aug 11, 2019 3:14:06 GMT 1
I’m quite aware that we had tremendous success by being hard to beat, ridiculously good with the pressing game and effective on the counter attack, but McCormick, Vincelot and Edwards are not Ogogo Nolan & Godfrey, are they? Hence my point above. We don’t keep possession long enough & the only harrying is Vincelot on the edge of his own box or chasing someone that’s already past him. Midfield is weak & it won’t survive 44 more like the 2 that have just been and gone, imo. But you’re comparing our second string midfield now with our first choice midfield of two years ago. I wouldn’t be surprised to see a midfield three of Laurent, Norburn and Whalley when everyone is fit. Absolute agree! Our keeper and defence look solid. Like last week MK Dons never broke us down trying to pass through us. Portsmouth couldn’t either going long. We are lacking another striker. A midfield 3 of Laurent, Whalley and a deeper Norburn would be good as they are different and give you a bit of everything.
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Post by Ambergambler on Aug 11, 2019 6:32:29 GMT 1
Even watching those brief highlights we miss Norburn terribly.
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Post by Stowmarket Shrew on Aug 11, 2019 7:24:47 GMT 1
Anyone know how far off a return Norburn is?
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Post by BlueAndAmber50 on Aug 11, 2019 7:43:31 GMT 1
With Williams our for the foreseeable future I’d like to see a 4-4-2 although imagine it would be unlikely . Until Norburn returns and with Laurent possibly out too.
O’leary
Love Ebanks landell Pierre Golbourne
Whalley Vincelot Edwards Giles
Morrison Okenbirhie
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