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Post by staffordshrew on Jun 21, 2019 12:11:05 GMT 1
Hopefully there will be a lot of Tory chumps looking for a job sometime in the next couple of years. Of course, to get a cushy directorship in finance they will probably have to move to the EU. Move to the EU? But how? Are you saying that movement between the EU and UK will continue if and when the UK actually leaves the EU? That it won't come to a sudden and grinding halt? That people will still be able to move between the two in order to live, work, study or whatever? That Brits, just like all the other foreign nationals from non-EU counties now living and enjoying their time here in the EU, will still have that option available to them? Steady now. What I am saying is that many large city finance firms will need to move their headquarters to Europe to remain big players in the world London City workers will loose their jobs, but those displaced Tory ministers and grandees after the next election will still be able to get on the gravy train of directorships, etc. because they are paid huge sums for a couple of days work a month and will be able to claim back the travel expenses, First Class of course, old boy. Glad you asked.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jun 21, 2019 12:27:47 GMT 1
Move to the EU? But how? Are you saying that movement between the EU and UK will continue if and when the UK actually leaves the EU? That it won't come to a sudden and grinding halt? That people will still be able to move between the two in order to live, work, study or whatever? That Brits, just like all the other foreign nationals from non-EU counties now living and enjoying their time here in the EU, will still have that option available to them? Steady now. ...because they are paid huge sums for a couple of days work a month and will be able to claim back the travel expenses, First Class of course, old boy. Glad you asked. Sounds very much like yer MEP, sounds an excellent do that. But even so, how will these Tories make it over the wall? As I can only assume the tunnel will be filled in? And with flights coming to a stop. Etc etc etc... For sure I know what you are saying but it does rather fly in the face of the talk we hear that the UK will suddenly become a closed shop with no bugger going one way or the other if and when Brexit comes about. Which when I look about the place and see so, so many people here in this part of Germany from all over the world doesn't really make a whole lot of sense. Its been done to death on here for sure but its something that came to mind when I read your post...👍
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Post by venceremos on Jun 21, 2019 12:32:59 GMT 1
Nice try but you ignored the Tory chumps qualification. Right back at you. They'll not be the most popular folk over this way either, if they can pull it off then... Quite right too - they don't add any value!
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Post by northwestman on Jun 21, 2019 12:34:19 GMT 1
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Post by staffordshrew on Jun 21, 2019 12:36:04 GMT 1
...because they are paid huge sums for a couple of days work a month and will be able to claim back the travel expenses, First Class of course, old boy. Glad you asked. Sounds very much like yer MEP, sounds an excellent do that. But even so, how will these Tories make it over the wall? As I can only assume the tunnel will be filled in? And with flights coming to a stop. Etc etc etc... For sure I know what you are saying but it does rather fly in the face of the talk we hear that the UK will suddenly become a closed shop with no bugger going one way or the other if and when Brexit comes about. Which when I look about the place and see so, so many people here in this part of Germany from all over the world doesn't really make a whole lot of sense. Its been done to death on here for sure but its something that came to mind when I read your post...👍 For ordinary people who want to work for a better life it will become a closed shop. The crooks and toffs of this world will always find a way round.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jun 21, 2019 12:39:57 GMT 1
Sounds very much like yer MEP, sounds an excellent do that. But even so, how will these Tories make it over the wall? As I can only assume the tunnel will be filled in? And with flights coming to a stop. Etc etc etc... For sure I know what you are saying but it does rather fly in the face of the talk we hear that the UK will suddenly become a closed shop with no bugger going one way or the other if and when Brexit comes about. Which when I look about the place and see so, so many people here in this part of Germany from all over the world doesn't really make a whole lot of sense. Its been done to death on here for sure but its something that came to mind when I read your post...👍 To ordinary people who want to work for a better life it will become a closed shop. The crooks and toffs of this world will always find a way round. Can you provide any proof for that please? As like I say, I'm surrounded here by ordinary people from all about the globe who are here working for a better life.
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Post by salop27 on Jun 21, 2019 12:46:54 GMT 1
She was an mp for 5 years, of course she's going to get job offers. There's nothing here which is suggesting McVey only got offers because she was a Conservative mp so I don't see the point.
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Post by staffordshrew on Jun 21, 2019 12:50:40 GMT 1
To ordinary people who want to work for a better life it will become a closed shop. The crooks and toffs of this world will always find a way round. Can you provide any proof for that please? As like I say, I'm surrounded here by ordinary people from all about the globe who are here working for a better life. I bow to your knowledge of how people from around the world are treated by Europe, which is how Brits will be treated after Brexit. But how Britain will treat British people who want to accumulate and receive their British pension and benefits over there, or Europeans who want to work over here could be a bit more problematic?
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Post by venceremos on Jun 21, 2019 12:51:55 GMT 1
To ordinary people who want to work for a better life it will become a closed shop. The crooks and toffs of this world will always find a way round. Can you provide any proof for that please? As like I say, I'm surrounded here by ordinary people from all about the globe who are here working for a better life. So there'll be free movement post-brexit after all? That'll come as a shock to some.
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Post by frankwellshrews on Jun 21, 2019 13:27:41 GMT 1
To ordinary people who want to work for a better life it will become a closed shop. The crooks and toffs of this world will always find a way round. Can you provide any proof for that please? As like I say, I'm surrounded here by ordinary people from all about the globe who are here working for a better life. You might want to read that back to yourself, Stutty, it's not entirely (or remotely, to be honest) consistent with your position. Been trolling these threads so long you've even started trolling yourself, owd lad.
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Post by shrewsace on Jun 21, 2019 13:50:52 GMT 1
Can you provide any proof for that please? As like I say, I'm surrounded here by ordinary people from all about the globe who are here working for a better life. You might want to read that back to yourself, Stutty, it's not entirely (or remotely, to be honest) consistent with your position. Been trolling these threads so long you've even started trolling yourself, owd lad. The guy who posts "The Guardian " when trying to rubbish a post he disagrees with but links to, er, The Guardian, when trying to back up one his typically half-baked contributions? Surely not!
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jun 21, 2019 14:15:18 GMT 1
Can you provide any proof for that please? As like I say, I'm surrounded here by ordinary people from all about the globe who are here working for a better life. You might want to read that back to yourself, Stutty, it's not entirely (or remotely, to be honest) consistent with your position. Been trolling these threads so long you've even started trolling yourself, owd lad. You've lost me there. My point is that you don't have to be a EU citizen to live and work in the EU. Certainly here in Germany anyhow. What your point is however, I have no idea. What are you getting at?
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jun 21, 2019 14:41:16 GMT 1
You might want to read that back to yourself, Stutty, it's not entirely (or remotely, to be honest) consistent with your position. Been trolling these threads so long you've even started trolling yourself, owd lad. The guy who posts "The Guardian " when trying to rubbish a post he disagrees with but links to, er, The Guardian, when trying to back up one his typically half-baked contributions? Surely not! Half baked is it? Ouch!!
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jun 21, 2019 15:11:13 GMT 1
Can you provide any proof for that please? As like I say, I'm surrounded here by ordinary people from all about the globe who are here working for a better life. I bow to your knowledge of how people from around the world are treated by Europe, which is how Brits will be treated after Brexit. But how Britain will treat British people who want to accumulate and receive their British pension and benefits over there, or Europeans who want to work over here could be a bit more problematic? It is problematic but as far as I am aware its all very much up in the air and up for discussion. Nothing as yet has been decided or? How and when it will be all very much depends on how we leave the EU (if it does happen). I mean for all the disruption about the withdrawal agreement it is just that, it is the agreement on how things will work during the interim period during which such things will be discussed and agreed. The political declaration points to a close relationship and one that should benefit the EU and the UK. It talks about the obvious close ties that have now been woven between the two considering the UK's membership. As I understand it, no one has any issue with this document, it is agreed on both sides. Just hope that with all the distraction with the withdrawal agreement, things don't go sour between the two and the content of this declaration is thrown to the wind. I know some people don't like what i post on here but I just see it as I see it, what i read and what I understand. And with that said there is an awful lot yet to be discussed and agreed upon. So yes, freedom of movement will come to an end. And for all those who have designs to move and live in the EU it makes things more complicated. But to say that it will no longer an option...based on what? We have to wait an see. And I most certainly hope that it will remain an option for those who want to make the move. As I have said, I think the UK should leave the the EU because that is exactly what the politicians said they would do. However, I have always said that I didn't think an awful lot would change as a result and as yet I haven't seen anything to suggest otherwise. Whether that will be the case we have to wait and see. But I hope that it works (as best as it can) for all involved. I want a successful UK along side a successful EU. Still working very closely together, just on a different footing. There is still more discussions to be had and much to be decided before we can say an awful lot for definite...👍 And just to add going back to non-EU citizens here in Germany, Germany is currently looking to change its immigration laws so that it is easier for companies to recruit and bring in skilled workers from outside the EU. I think they are in the process of doing so now.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jun 22, 2019 8:47:55 GMT 1
Whoever is knocking these things together... Another top tune...
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