|
Post by mattmw on Mar 31, 2021 9:36:13 GMT 1
If anyone is having trouble with the paperwork required for importing and exporting the Shropshire Chamber of Trade have recruited new staff to help businesses to work through the processes. From experience they give really helpful advice.
Currently importing into the UK is much easier than exporting, as the UK has yet to impose a lot of import checks, but currently plan to do this in July (although may push it back) so any businesses who import from the EU need to be prepared for additional paperwork in the future.
|
|
|
Post by staffordshrew on Mar 31, 2021 10:03:49 GMT 1
If anyone is having trouble with the paperwork required for importing and exporting the Shropshire Chamber of Trade have recruited new staff to help businesses to work through the processes. From experience they give really helpful advice. Currently importing into the UK is much easier than exporting, as the UK has yet to impose a lot of import checks, but currently plan to do this in July (although may push it back) so any businesses who import from the EU need to be prepared for additional paperwork in the future. That hints at why Pilch's parcel from France came in easily yet exporters seem to be having trouble.
"Recruited new staff" - a cost of Brexit, but only short term?
|
|
|
Post by darkshrew on Mar 31, 2021 10:17:36 GMT 1
Regardless of Pilch claiming everything is as it was Brexit is making changes to how companies work and how people will be able to conduct their lives.
Whether the changes are big or small, positive or negative depends on the circumstances of the firms or individuals.
The real bone of contention for most of the remainers seems to be that those voters who see little or no impact on them seem to be the most fervent supporters of Brexit.
The referendum was never a vote based on facts.
Aside from the chuckles about the chap in Spain and his wife who have to leave I wonder how many will also regret the choice further down the line.
[Cue Pilch comment that at least they are alive because they got the vaccine].
|
|
|
Post by Pilch on Mar 31, 2021 10:19:01 GMT 1
If anyone is having trouble with the paperwork required for importing and exporting the Shropshire Chamber of Trade have recruited new staff to help businesses to work through the processes. From experience they give really helpful advice. Currently importing into the UK is much easier than exporting, as the UK has yet to impose a lot of import checks, but currently plan to do this in July (although may push it back) so any businesses who import from the EU need to be prepared for additional paperwork in the future. That hints at why Pilch's parcel from France came in easily yet exporters seem to be having trouble.
"Recruited new staff" - a cost of Brexit, but only short term?
Having trouble ? Yeah Putting their name and address on a piece of paper it seems Maybe the french are more intelligent
|
|
|
Post by staffordshrew on Mar 31, 2021 10:29:00 GMT 1
That hints at why Pilch's parcel from France came in easily yet exporters seem to be having trouble.
"Recruited new staff" - a cost of Brexit, but only short term?
Having trouble ? Yeah Putting their name and address on a piece of paper it seems Maybe the french are more intelligent Sacrebleu Pilch, did you not read mattmw's post? "Currently importing into the UK is much easier than exporting, as the UK has yet to impose a lot of import checks, but currently plan to do this in July (although may push it back) so any businesses who import from the EU need to be prepared for additional paperwork in the future"
So it is seemingly harder than writing a name and address as staff are being recruited to help.
|
|
|
Post by mattmw on Mar 31, 2021 11:21:23 GMT 1
If anyone is having trouble with the paperwork required for importing and exporting the Shropshire Chamber of Trade have recruited new staff to help businesses to work through the processes. From experience they give really helpful advice. Currently importing into the UK is much easier than exporting, as the UK has yet to impose a lot of import checks, but currently plan to do this in July (although may push it back) so any businesses who import from the EU need to be prepared for additional paperwork in the future. That hints at why Pilch's parcel from France came in easily yet exporters seem to be having trouble.
"Recruited new staff" - a cost of Brexit, but only short term?
The Shropshire Chamber of trade tends to deal with Small to Medium Enterprises who employ 5 or less people, and generally those companies don’t have the in house skills to navigate their way through the forms needed. So the chamber employing staff and charging a small fee to access this advice is a good short term option Long term you would anticipate that businesses that do a lot of trade with EU businesses will train up their own staff, but as regulations on what’s needed will constantly change and alter there will definitely be additional resources needed for businesses to work through the red tape A lot also depends on the composition of goods and their origin. So exporting one single item - such as uk grown wheat, is relatively simple; but where companies source products from different countries, produce a new product, and then export it back to the EU the forms are much more complex. So for example exporting bakery products has become more costly, whilst single item exports are reasonably simple
|
|
|
Post by Pilch on Mar 31, 2021 11:24:14 GMT 1
Having trouble ? Yeah Putting their name and address on a piece of paper it seems Maybe the french are more intelligent Sacrebleu Pilch, did you not read mattmw's post? "Currently importing into the UK is much easier than exporting, as the UK has yet to impose a lot of import checks, but currently plan to do this in July (although may push it back) so any businesses who import from the EU need to be prepared for additional paperwork in the future"
So it is seemingly harder than writing a name and address as staff are being recruited to help.
oh you mean like they have been doing for years but we haven't been bothered too here's the parcel I got, complete with CN23 customs declaration and 5 others forms bit like the ones I see every day Attachments:
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2021 12:10:14 GMT 1
From Belgium or to Belgium, it doesn't really matter. They were forms that were not required up to the end of last year. As I said, the much vaunted less bureaucracy!!!
|
|
|
Post by Pilch on Mar 31, 2021 23:34:59 GMT 1
From Belgium or to Belgium, it doesn't really matter. They were forms that were not required up to the end of last year. As I said, the much vaunted less bureaucracy!!! So now in line with the rest of Europe 😜 Some people want their cake and eat it
|
|
|
Post by neilsalop on Apr 1, 2021 6:50:18 GMT 1
I wonder if we will have seen any tangible benefits in the intervening years and if Brexit voters are worse off, will they admit they may have made a mistake or will they still be blaming everything on Covid
If things are terrible and Brexit has been a mistake, 10 years time it will be evident, and i will apologise for getting it wrong, Will you if the opposite is the case. I will be very surprised if the EU is still in its current form in 10 years if i am honest. I have said before that if Brexit is the success that it was advertised as I will happily munch away on as much humble pie as you can bake.
How much pain to the country our economy is acceptable to you Downie? Currently there around 1.7m 16-64 year olds unemployed in the UK or just over 5%. There are also just shy of 4m on furlough and I would guess that not all of those people will keep their jobs. Now I will concede that many job losses have occurred due to Covid and I would be a fool to deny that, but obviously if we can't get the vast majority of those people back into their jobs or other jobs the unemployment rate will rise. How many coffee shops for example are going to be viable when huge swathes of the office based workers are told they can continue to work from home or work flexibly? How much tax is the government missing out on by people not filling their cars up every 3 days to travel to work? How many bus and train companies are going to go back to full timetables when there aren't the commuters to use them and keep them viable?
The government is already setting out plans to move away from the EU working time directive and Boris Johnson has urged industry to get behind plans for future regulatory liberalisation after Brexit. Now for the free market fetishists out there this would be great news, but for workers rights, not so much. How many more EU laws and directives that have become a staple of UK life are in the firing line now that we aren't bound by them?
Will it stop at workers rights? Are consumer rights next? Are environmental protections in danger? With Priti Patel in a position of power are human rights still set in stone or are they being rewritten in sand? I understand that some of these things are not important to you and that some you may even think will work to your own advantage, but sooner or later they'll take something from you or yours that will be important and may have a detrimental impact on the lives of people you care about.
Hopefully I'm wrong on all counts and the government will come up with some cunning plans to get us through any hardships and the next ten years will be all sunlit uplands and the UK will be the best place on earth to live, Brexit will be a resounding success and we'll all live happily ever after. Apart from me of course because all that humble pie is going to give me a bloody great coronary.
|
|
|
Post by Pilch on Apr 1, 2021 14:50:05 GMT 1
If things are terrible and Brexit has been a mistake, 10 years time it will be evident, and i will apologise for getting it wrong, Will you if the opposite is the case. I will be very surprised if the EU is still in its current form in 10 years if i am honest. I have said before that if Brexit is the success that it was advertised as I will happily munch away on as much humble pie as you can bake.
How much pain to the country our economy is acceptable to you Downie? Currently there around 1.7m 16-64 year olds unemployed in the UK or just over 5%. There are also just shy of 4m on furlough and I would guess that not all of those people will keep their jobs. Now I will concede that many job losses have occurred due to Covid and I would be a fool to deny that, but obviously if we can't get the vast majority of those people back into their jobs or other jobs the unemployment rate will rise. How many coffee shops for example are going to be viable when huge swathes of the office based workers are told they can continue to work from home or work flexibly? How much tax is the government missing out on by people not filling their cars up every 3 days to travel to work? How many bus and train companies are going to go back to full timetables when there aren't the commuters to use them and keep them viable?
The government is already setting out plans to move away from the EU working time directive and Boris Johnson has urged industry to get behind plans for future regulatory liberalisation after Brexit. Now for the free market fetishists out there this would be great news, but for workers rights, not so much. How many more EU laws and directives that have become a staple of UK life are in the firing line now that we aren't bound by them?
Will it stop at workers rights? Are consumer rights next? Are environmental protections in danger? With Priti Patel in a position of power are human rights still set in stone or are they being rewritten in sand? I understand that some of these things are not important to you and that some you may even think will work to your own advantage, but sooner or later they'll take something from you or yours that will be important and may have a detrimental impact on the lives of people you care about.
Hopefully I'm wrong on all counts and the government will come up with some cunning plans to get us through any hardships and the next ten years will be all sunlit uplands and the UK will be the best place on earth to live, Brexit will be a resounding success and we'll all live happily ever after. Apart from me of course because all that humble pie is going to give me a bloody great coronary.
You’ve spent the last 5 years telling us how we should have remained and the 6 years before that telling how we should leave , I say give it another 12 months and we’ll start cooking that humble pie You clearly don’t have a clue what you want 😜
|
|
|
Post by mattmw on Apr 1, 2021 15:05:08 GMT 1
There a good “on the ground” report on the BBC website about the difficulties of importing into and out of Northern Ireland on the BBC website today (know its 1st April but think it’s accurate) www.bbc.com/news/amp/uk-northern-ireland-56597642?__twitter_impression=trueIt backs up cases I’ve had from Shropshire businesses who send items to Northern Ireland. Individually the issues are not that significant, but the cumulative impact is significant for businesses, and only exist as a result of the new trade agreement
|
|
|
Post by davycrockett on Apr 1, 2021 15:41:52 GMT 1
|
|
|
Post by Pilch on Apr 1, 2021 18:26:44 GMT 1
Regardless of Pilch claiming everything is as it was Brexit is making changes to how companies work and how people will be able to conduct their lives. Whether the changes are big or small, positive or negative depends on the circumstances of the firms or individuals. The real bone of contention for most of the remainers seems to be that those voters who see little or no impact on them seem to be the most fervent supporters of Brexit. The referendum was never a vote based on facts. Aside from the chuckles about the chap in Spain and his wife who have to leave I wonder how many will also regret the choice further down the line. [Cue Pilch comment that at least they are alive because they got the vaccine]. I can speak for myself thanks but I can see that you are worried someone might actually point out that Brexit has potentially saved 10's of thousands of lives ALREADY
|
|
|
Post by neilsalop on Apr 1, 2021 21:07:50 GMT 1
I have said before that if Brexit is the success that it was advertised as I will happily munch away on as much humble pie as you can bake.
How much pain to the country our economy is acceptable to you Downie? Currently there around 1.7m 16-64 year olds unemployed in the UK or just over 5%. There are also just shy of 4m on furlough and I would guess that not all of those people will keep their jobs. Now I will concede that many job losses have occurred due to Covid and I would be a fool to deny that, but obviously if we can't get the vast majority of those people back into their jobs or other jobs the unemployment rate will rise. How many coffee shops for example are going to be viable when huge swathes of the office based workers are told they can continue to work from home or work flexibly? How much tax is the government missing out on by people not filling their cars up every 3 days to travel to work? How many bus and train companies are going to go back to full timetables when there aren't the commuters to use them and keep them viable?
The government is already setting out plans to move away from the EU working time directive and Boris Johnson has urged industry to get behind plans for future regulatory liberalisation after Brexit. Now for the free market fetishists out there this would be great news, but for workers rights, not so much. How many more EU laws and directives that have become a staple of UK life are in the firing line now that we aren't bound by them?
Will it stop at workers rights? Are consumer rights next? Are environmental protections in danger? With Priti Patel in a position of power are human rights still set in stone or are they being rewritten in sand? I understand that some of these things are not important to you and that some you may even think will work to your own advantage, but sooner or later they'll take something from you or yours that will be important and may have a detrimental impact on the lives of people you care about.
Hopefully I'm wrong on all counts and the government will come up with some cunning plans to get us through any hardships and the next ten years will be all sunlit uplands and the UK will be the best place on earth to live, Brexit will be a resounding success and we'll all live happily ever after. Apart from me of course because all that humble pie is going to give me a bloody great coronary.
You’ve spent the last 5 years telling us how we should have remained and the 6 years before that telling how we should leave , I say give it another 12 months and we’ll start cooking that humble pie You clearly don’t have a clue what you want 😜 As I have said many times and I'll repeat again for those in the cheap seats, I used to believe all the bulls**t in right wing rags like the Mail and the S*n and like a fool I fell for their spin hook, line and sinker. I then looked a bit deeper and further and educated myself. Perhaps you should try it.
I know that some people are too f***ing thick to look any further that the narrative that the MSM feeds them. Only this week we have had the press telling us that there is nothing untoward about a government report declaring that the government is in no way racist and there is not even a hint of any racism in any of the governments institutions or departments, while at the same time it takes a leaked report to bring to court a case of an actual Nazi in the Met. I wonder how many more there could be.
For someone who keeps telling anyone that is daft enough to listen that he is a traditional Labour voter you don't half spend a lot of time sucking up to the Tories. Benedict Arnold would be proud of you Pilch.
|
|
|
Post by neilsalop on Apr 1, 2021 21:11:07 GMT 1
Regardless of Pilch claiming everything is as it was Brexit is making changes to how companies work and how people will be able to conduct their lives. Whether the changes are big or small, positive or negative depends on the circumstances of the firms or individuals. The real bone of contention for most of the remainers seems to be that those voters who see little or no impact on them seem to be the most fervent supporters of Brexit. The referendum was never a vote based on facts. Aside from the chuckles about the chap in Spain and his wife who have to leave I wonder how many will also regret the choice further down the line. [Cue Pilch comment that at least they are alive because they got the vaccine]. I can speak for myself thanks but I can see that you are worried someone might actually point out that Brexit has potentially saved 10's of thousands of lives ALREADY You claim Brexit has saved lives. I say the inept response in the last 12 months has cost just as many if not more. 149,168 people weren't available for comment.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2021 21:23:30 GMT 1
I can speak for myself thanks but I can see that you are worried someone might actually point out that Brexit has potentially saved 10's of thousands of lives ALREADY You claim Brexit has saved lives. I say the inept response in the last 12 months has cost just as many if not more. 149,168 people weren't available for comment. What does the 149k figure represent?
|
|
|
Post by Pilch on Apr 1, 2021 21:27:06 GMT 1
You’ve spent the last 5 years telling us how we should have remained and the 6 years before that telling how we should leave , I say give it another 12 months and we’ll start cooking that humble pie You clearly don’t have a clue what you want 😜 As I have said many times and I'll repeat again for those in the cheap seats, I used to believe all the bulls**t in right wing rags like the Mail and the S*n and like a fool I fell for their spin hook, line and sinker. I then looked a bit deeper and further and educated myself. Perhaps you should try it.
I know that some people are too f***ing thick to look any further that the narrative that the MSM feeds them. Only this week we have had the press telling us that there is nothing untoward about a government report declaring that the government is in no way racist and there is not even a hint of any racism in any of the governments institutions or departments, while at the same time it takes a leaked report to bring to court a case of an actual Nazi in the Met. I wonder how many more there could be.
For someone who keeps telling anyone that is daft enough to listen that he is a traditional Labour voter you don't half spend a lot of time sucking up to the Tories. Benedict Arnold would be proud of you Pilch.
how am I sucking up to the tories ? Ive criticised them more in the last 12 months than ive praised them if you check you on the other hand have been brainwashed Boris speaks =.you say rubbish Starmer speaks = you say "what he said" msm ? never seen it sorry and I dont read newspapers I usually watch the tv or if I want to use the net I look at the bbc if fact I think almost all my posts are from my own 'mouth' I'll usually only go hunting for a link if someone questions what I've said
|
|
|
Post by Pilch on Apr 1, 2021 21:28:18 GMT 1
I can speak for myself thanks but I can see that you are worried someone might actually point out that Brexit has potentially saved 10's of thousands of lives ALREADY You claim Brexit has saved lives. I say the inept response in the last 12 months has cost just as many if not more. 149,168 people weren't available for comment. how many would have been unable to comment have we remained in the EU ?
|
|
|
Post by neilsalop on Apr 1, 2021 21:39:28 GMT 1
As I have said many times and I'll repeat again for those in the cheap seats, I used to believe all the bulls**t in right wing rags like the Mail and the S*n and like a fool I fell for their spin hook, line and sinker. I then looked a bit deeper and further and educated myself. Perhaps you should try it.
I know that some people are too f***ing thick to look any further that the narrative that the MSM feeds them. Only this week we have had the press telling us that there is nothing untoward about a government report declaring that the government is in no way racist and there is not even a hint of any racism in any of the governments institutions or departments, while at the same time it takes a leaked report to bring to court a case of an actual Nazi in the Met. I wonder how many more there could be.
For someone who keeps telling anyone that is daft enough to listen that he is a traditional Labour voter you don't half spend a lot of time sucking up to the Tories. Benedict Arnold would be proud of you Pilch.
how am I sucking up to the tories ? Ive criticised them more in the last 12 months than ive praised them if you check you on the other hand have been brainwashed Boris speaks =.you say rubbish Starmer speaks = you say "what he said" msm ? never seen it sorry and I dont read newspapers I usually watch the tv or if I want to use the net I look at the bbc if fact I think almost all my posts are from my own 'mouth' I'll usually only go hunting for a link if someone questions what I've said Starmer? Are you having a f***ing laugh. The guy is a f***ing idiot. I am a member of the Labour party and am seriously considering whether I can vote for them again with that muppet in charge.
''if fact I think almost all my posts are from my own 'mouth' ''. If ever there was a case of garbage in, garbage out we have it here.
|
|
|
Post by Feedo Gnasher on Apr 1, 2021 21:39:53 GMT 1
There a good “on the ground” report on the BBC website about the difficulties of importing into and out of Northern Ireland on the BBC website today (know its 1st April but think it’s accurate) www.bbc.com/news/amp/uk-northern-ireland-56597642?__twitter_impression=trueIt backs up cases I’ve had from Shropshire businesses who send items to Northern Ireland. Individually the issues are not that significant, but the cumulative impact is significant for businesses, and only exist as a result of the new trade agreement These sort of articles are wasted on here I’m afraid.
|
|
|
Post by neilsalop on Apr 1, 2021 21:40:58 GMT 1
You claim Brexit has saved lives. I say the inept response in the last 12 months has cost just as many if not more. 149,168 people weren't available for comment. What does the 149k figure represent? coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths
|
|
|
Post by Pilch on Apr 1, 2021 21:55:21 GMT 1
how many would have been unable to comment have we remained in the EU ?
|
|
|
Post by neilsalop on Apr 1, 2021 22:03:20 GMT 1
how many would have been unable to comment have we remained in the EU ? I have no idea Pilch, can you prove it would have been a higher number or are you just speculating?
Could it have been lower if we had stayed in?
You seem to be accepting of the number of deaths in this country, which is quite frankly staggering and that goes for both the number and the fact that you seem OK about it.
|
|
|
Post by Pilch on Apr 1, 2021 22:46:26 GMT 1
how many would have been unable to comment have we remained in the EU ? I have no idea Pilch, can you prove it would have been a higher number or are you just speculating?
Could it have been lower if we had stayed in?
You seem to be accepting of the number of deaths in this country, which is quite frankly staggering and that goes for both the number and the fact that you seem OK about it.
its like having a conversation with a sociopath
|
|
|
Post by neilsalop on Apr 2, 2021 6:42:04 GMT 1
I have no idea Pilch, can you prove it would have been a higher number or are you just speculating?
Could it have been lower if we had stayed in?
You seem to be accepting of the number of deaths in this country, which is quite frankly staggering and that goes for both the number and the fact that you seem OK about it.
its like having a conversation with a sociopath Wow, great comeback. Pure genius. I try to argue using facts and verified figures. You use opinions. I can't make out whether you are being deliberately obtuse or if you actually believe that your opinions are more important than facts. Who is the sociopath in this conversation?
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2021 7:25:45 GMT 1
You claim Brexit has saved lives. I say the inept response in the last 12 months has cost just as many if not more. 149,168 people weren't available for comment. What does the 149k figure represent? They are the governments own figures Mr D. They are not some Jeremy Corbyn conspiracy or some other leftie conspiracy or a figure some layabout woke youth has invented. If the government want to give a revised figure plus evidence and a rationale behind it I will listen. But for now it’s all we have, and it doesn’t reflect well does it?
|
|
|
Post by Pilch on Apr 2, 2021 9:01:08 GMT 1
its like having a conversation with a sociopath Wow, great comeback. Pure genius. I try to argue using facts and verified figures. You use opinions. I can't make out whether you are being deliberately obtuse or if you actually believe that your opinions are more important than facts. Who is the sociopath in this conversation? The one who last week decided covid was a godsend for me Now thinks I’m delighted in 150k deaths Laughed at how bad I said covid had effected me And now preaches about how highly educated he is and we should all do the same
|
|
|
Post by neilsalop on Apr 2, 2021 12:29:25 GMT 1
Wow, great comeback. Pure genius. I try to argue using facts and verified figures. You use opinions. I can't make out whether you are being deliberately obtuse or if you actually believe that your opinions are more important than facts. Who is the sociopath in this conversation? The one who last week decided covid was a godsend for me Now thinks I’m delighted in 150k deaths Laughed at how bad I said covid had effected me And now preaches about how highly educated he is and we should all do the same I'm done. I can't be bothered arguing with you any more. Every comment I make you twist. I said that Covid19 was manna from heaven for Brexiters in relation to any damage done over the next few years having a convenient scapegoat. You took it personally and proceeded to list all of your woes. As if anyone gives a toss. Can you please quote the post where I said you were delighted about 150,000 deaths. I suggested that it appeared that you were accepting of that number. You even had the neck to suggest that if we had stayed in the EU that number would have been higher, but failed to offer any evidence. Therefore I was correct that it was an opinion and not a fact. Most people on here are probably educated to a higher level than me, I have three mid range CSEs and a City & Guilds in catering. Hardly a master's degree. Yes I have tried to learn more about many things in the last few years and I would encourage everyone to try to do the same. If you can't be bothered to read anything beyond B&A that's on you.
|
|
|
Post by Pilch on Apr 2, 2021 13:20:43 GMT 1
It’s all speculation about brexit mate
|
|