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Post by SeanBroseley on Jul 30, 2019 15:09:48 GMT 1
An interesting thread on twitter about the EU's view of the Withdrawal Agreement: |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2019 11:57:59 GMT 1
An extra £2.1 billion is suddenly found for no deal planning, the Tories raiding the magic money tree once again.  |
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Post by staffordshrew on Aug 1, 2019 12:04:56 GMT 1
An extra £2.1 billion is suddenly found for no deal planning, the Tories raiding the magic money tree once again. Paying out 2.1 billion to cut your own throat? Time to think again if Brexit really is the right thing for Great Britain? But with Barmy Boris & co we will continue because we voted for it three years ago, no checks, no caution, just onward into the unknown. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2019 12:07:02 GMT 1
Can’t for the life of me see why it needs so much money? Surely a healthy dose of common sense and optimism would suffice?
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Post by staffordshrew on Aug 1, 2019 12:22:36 GMT 1
The problem is that going ahead with a new business relationship without any sort of due diligence check is nothing to do with common sense. Just sheer stupidity.
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Post by shrewsace on Aug 1, 2019 12:41:40 GMT 1
Typical Tories, just want to throw money at problems rather than making efficiencies.
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Post by martinshrew on Aug 1, 2019 12:43:47 GMT 1
More doom and gloom from the usual suspects, and the "experts" who continue to get predictions wrong.
It's refreshing to have a government with a positive outlook.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2019 12:55:08 GMT 1
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Post by highlandshrew on Aug 1, 2019 12:59:40 GMT 1
An extra £2.1 billion is suddenly found for no deal planning, the Tories raiding the magic money tree once again. But . . I thought the last leader had explained to the nurses (in a rather patronising manner) that there was no magic money tree?  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2019 13:02:06 GMT 1
An extra £2.1 billion is suddenly found for no deal planning, the Tories raiding the magic money tree once again. But . . I thought the last leader had explained to the nurses (in a rather patronising manner) that there was no magic money tree? Tory hypocrisy, some things never change. |
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Post by staffordshrew on Aug 1, 2019 13:22:36 GMT 1
More doom and gloom from the usual suspects, and the "experts" who continue to get predictions wrong. It's refreshing to have a government with a positive outlook. Experts are "experts", magic money trees don't exist unless you are Conservative. A positive outlook will always succeed, if I don't listen to anyone and plough on all will be ok. Donald Trump will look after us with a great trade deal. Do they put something in the drinks at the Conservative club these days? Do they drink it in "I'm a Conservative, Keep Calm and Carry On Regardless" mugs? |
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Post by staffordshrew on Aug 1, 2019 13:27:18 GMT 1
Aha, some of the due diligence I was after: A no deal Brexit means a good chance of recession next year. Still want to go ahead? |
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Post by martinshrew on Aug 1, 2019 13:38:29 GMT 1
Aha, some of the due diligence I was after: A no deal Brexit means a good chance of recession next year. Still want to go ahead? Same as the immediate recession just on the result of the referendum? Forgive me for taking it with a pinch of salt. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2019 13:40:02 GMT 1
But . . I thought the last leader had explained to the nurses (in a rather patronising manner) that there was no magic money tree? Tory hypocrisy, some things never change. Yes i agree... how nasty doing things they have promised and were voted in to do... |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2019 13:41:33 GMT 1
Aha, some of the due diligence I was after: A no deal Brexit means a good chance of recession next year. Still want to go ahead? Well i wonder if this next recession will be as bad as the last one the Bank of England predicted |
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Post by staffordshrew on Aug 1, 2019 13:48:05 GMT 1
Aha, some of the due diligence I was after: A no deal Brexit means a good chance of recession next year. Still want to go ahead? Same as the immediate recession just on the result of the referendum? Forgive me for taking it with a pinch of salt. Whoever forecast an immediate recession on the result of the referendum should have been sacked. You only get a recession when you work under the new rules, you get a dip in the value of the pound and shares as a result of the referendum, that did happen. |
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Post by staffordshrew on Aug 1, 2019 14:04:41 GMT 1
Aha, some of the due diligence I was after: A no deal Brexit means a good chance of recession next year. Still want to go ahead? Same as the immediate recession just on the result of the referendum? Forgive me for taking it with a pinch of salt. How long before Boris decides we don't need the "experts" and saves some money by removing the Governor of the Bank of England and the rest of the "experts". Who needs 'em? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2019 14:18:24 GMT 1
Tory hypocrisy, some things never change. Yes i agree... how nasty doing things they have promised and were voted in to do... Agree on this Mr D. Cutting nurses pay by nearly 15% since 2010 and then giving us a 3% pay rise. Really does show the soft and fluffy side of modern conservatism 👍 |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2019 14:23:45 GMT 1
Tory hypocrisy, some things never change. Yes i agree... how nasty doing things they have promised and were voted in to do... Well done on completely missing the point. The hypocrisy is in denying that money is available for vital public services when challenged over this but then magically finding billions of pounds as as when it suits their purposes to do so. At the same time criticising the opposition for their funding plans and referencing 'magic money trees'. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2019 14:27:08 GMT 1
Same as the immediate recession just on the result of the referendum? Forgive me for taking it with a pinch of salt. Whoever forecast an immediate recession on the result of the referendum should have been sacked. You only get a recession when you work under the new rules, you get a dip in the value of the pound and shares as a result of the referendum, that did happen. That will be the same person who is forcasting the next one... |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2019 14:32:53 GMT 1
Yes i agree... how nasty doing things they have promised and were voted in to do... Well done on completely missing the point. The hypocrisy is in denying that money is available for vital public services when challenged over this but then magically finding billions of pounds as as when it suits their purposes to do so. At the same time criticising the opposition for their funding plans and referencing 'magic money trees'. Hmmm different administration.... but suppose your not capable of realising difference.... just sit there and be bitter eh.... |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2019 14:36:38 GMT 1
Well done on completely missing the point. The hypocrisy is in denying that money is available for vital public services when challenged over this but then magically finding billions of pounds as as when it suits their purposes to do so. At the same time criticising the opposition for their funding plans and referencing 'magic money trees'. Hmmm different administration.... but suppose your not capable of realising difference.... just sit there and be bitter eh.... The last time the Tories were voted in was in 2017. That manifesto didn't say anything about spending £6billion on Brexit no deal planning. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2019 14:57:17 GMT 1
Hmmm different administration.... but suppose your not capable of realising difference.... just sit there and be bitter eh.... The last time the Tories were voted in was in 2017. That manifesto didn't say anything about spending £6billion on Brexit no deal planning. Well thats a consequence of the rest of the political class and the minority attempting to thwart brexit at every opportunity... I am actually feeling quite positive about this new administration after the disaster that was overseen by a weak leader is Mrs May in trying to keep everyone happy... which is not possible. |
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Post by staffordshrew on Aug 1, 2019 14:57:23 GMT 1
Whoever forecast an immediate recession on the result of the referendum should have been sacked. You only get a recession when you work under the new rules, you get a dip in the value of the pound and shares as a result of the referendum, that did happen. That will be the same person who is forcasting the next one... It was George Osbourne (Conservative, so what would he know) and the Treasury that forecast the last one www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36355564It's the Bank of England now. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2019 14:58:26 GMT 1
Mark Carney said it on May 12th 2016 George Osbourne just repeated it on 23rd May. |
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Post by salop27 on Aug 1, 2019 16:37:04 GMT 1
Yes i agree... how nasty doing things they have promised and were voted in to do... Well done on completely missing the point. The hypocrisy is in denying that money is available for vital public services when challenged over this but then magically finding billions of pounds as as when it suits their purposes to do so. At the same time criticising the opposition for their funding plans and referencing 'magic money trees'. That's the difference between being in government and being the opposition. You can easily argue that if they don't spend the money further down the line a larger gap might be created in the public finances. At some point in time brexit will free up extra money for public services. People did not vote to leave the EU for financial gain. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2019 17:08:46 GMT 1
Same as the immediate recession just on the result of the referendum? Forgive me for taking it with a pinch of salt. How long before Boris decides we don't need the "experts" and saves some money by removing the Governor of the Bank of England and the rest of the "experts". Who needs 'em? How long before Boris gets his little pieces of paper out and decides that he has achieved his personal goal to become PM and returns to his long term support of the EU? How anyone can paint him as a fervent Brexiteer is baffling but there again democracy is about the ability to change your mind. |
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Post by davycrockett on Aug 1, 2019 17:14:31 GMT 1
The last time the Tories were voted in was in 2017. That manifesto didn't say anything about spending £6billion on Brexit no deal planning. Well thats a consequence of the rest of the political class and the minority attempting to thwart brexit at every opportunity... I am actually feeling quite positive about this new administration after the disaster that was overseen by a weak leader is Mrs May in trying to keep everyone happy... which is not possible. Rubbish The rest of the political class and us minority have every right to expect a decent deal to be negotiated by those in power.... this didn’t happen hence the PM having to beg for extensions.... you allude to this in your next statement ‘by the weak leader in Mrs May’ I’ll remind you she was leader of your party! Now your drooling over Boris the Bafoon who’ll do anything for his own benefit.... You can make everyone happy (ish) by negociating a decent deal or us and the EU but that doesn’t look likely after the Torres have ****ed up, wasted 3 years and now voted Boris in to sort it in 3 months |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2019 17:15:56 GMT 1
Well thats a consequence of the rest of the political class and the minority attempting to thwart brexit at every opportunity... I am actually feeling quite positive about this new administration after the disaster that was overseen by a weak leader is Mrs May in trying to keep everyone happy... which is not possible. Rubbish The rest of the political class and us minority have every right to expect a decent deal to be negotiated by those in power.... this didn’t happen hence the PM having to beg for extensions.... you allude to this in your next statement ‘by the weak leader in Mrs May’ I’ll remind you she’s the leader of your party! Now your drooling over Boris the Bafoon who’ll do anything for his own benefit.... You can make everyone happy (ish) by negociating a decent deal or us and the EU but that doesn’t look likely after the Torres have ****ed up, wasted 3 years and now voted Boris in to sort it in 3 months 🤣🤣🤣 |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2019 7:30:53 GMT 1
So a 'leave' area votes a remain party into Parliament, while reducing Johnson's majority to one.
Lots of different whys and wherefores, but good to see the Brexit Party split the Tory vote. Thanks agent Farage.
Interesting times.
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