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Post by thepottedshrew on Sept 17, 2011 15:50:04 GMT 1
And what a sweet feeling.....
Town were very decent today...thrown a bit losing SCS and a few early jitters from Conner (followed by a very solid second half).
Thought Hazell and Grandison were immense, especially when the latter moved to centre half and the 4 across the midfield caused all sorts of problems.
Morgan seems to be getting better and better..and the fact we can bring players like Richards and Bradshaw on really shows the strength we have.
Great result and encouraging display.
MOM - Hazell
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Post by vanner on Sept 17, 2011 15:59:42 GMT 1
I felt at times last season that if any member of the first 11 were injured then we had major problems. This season I feel we've got a much stronger squad and today was evidence of that. We just won with against a team who will be looking at the playoffs at a minimum with 4 players out of the starting lineup (from 20 mins onwards anyway).
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Post by pughywasfree on Sept 17, 2011 16:02:20 GMT 1
where they as dirty and cheats like was suggested on the radio?
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Post by thepottedshrew on Sept 17, 2011 16:05:37 GMT 1
where they as dirty and cheats like was suggested on the radio? Not sure they were any worse than us at times...Although one of their chaps was very lucky to just receive a yellow card for leading with his elbow on Wroe (I think)...although it was right in front of me and wasn't intentional...they are a strong and tough side, but we mixed it up with them well..dont think I would use the word dirty...just very committed.
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Post by mightyshrew on Sept 17, 2011 16:22:48 GMT 1
I would use the word dirty! They were cynical and new what they were doing, lost count how many time we cleared our lines and the Vale player followed through and all because the Ref let the first one go early in the first half.
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Post by lionshrew on Sept 17, 2011 17:18:16 GMT 1
Great performance today.
We started off superbly, great goal by Morgan, then a well worked goal from Wrighty.
We were on top first 20 minutes, but SCS had to come off it threw us and Vale started to get in the game more. Vales goal was a poor goal to give away Smithy again missed kicked.
Second half, great strike by Ainsworth. We had chances to get a 4th, especially one that Collins should have put away. Passed the ball round well.
Bit nervy last ten minutes though after Vale got their 2nd. But the lads kept their composure.
Morgan was brill today.
Hazell was rock solid at the back. Jacobsen, Grandison did well, Goldson was a bit nervy to start off but got better as the game wore on.
Our midfield Wright, Ainsworth, Wroe, McAllister were brill as usual.
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Post by hooverfoxhat on Sept 17, 2011 18:18:38 GMT 1
Judging from GTs post match comments about the ability, or lack of to keep a clean sheet I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Neale back in goal again soon - What on earth was Smith thinking about when he rushed out and gifted Vale their first? Awful judgement and not for the first time this season.
That said a good second half performance with safe hands etc and also a major player in the setting up of the third goal, a terriffic quick release and throw out to Wright who then raced up the flank, won a free kick which resulted in us gaining some breathing space with Ainsworths' goal.
Man of the match - McAllister
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2011 18:26:40 GMT 1
Disagree Mart but Ben needs to learn when to come and when to stay. Today, I didn't think PV were overly physical and was well placed in the press box. I thought they were totally committed but felt at times that sheer frustration led to over exuberance. The only show of real petulance came from Pope when he was yellowed and then gave JJ some verbals before a touchline spat with GT. We proved we can mix it when necessary.
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Post by telfordSHREWS on Sept 17, 2011 18:30:55 GMT 1
some good posts on this thread.
Pottedshrew exalted for yours , and Hoover agree with you, if i was Chris Neale id be thinking surely this must be my chance.
Smith could have cost us 2 points last week with his poor clearance with the crossbar to the rescue and today more dropped points and i dont need to remind anyone of what happened last season regarding the points situation. we have a very good back 4, hence the GK whoever is picked doesnt have a great amount to do !
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Post by BlueTone on Sept 17, 2011 19:49:16 GMT 1
Spooky but I am agreeing more and more with Hoover. Mcallister also my mom did simple things very well, kept us as tidy as possible.
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Post by filmcrewshrew on Sept 17, 2011 19:56:42 GMT 1
Now where's our little friend pvfc61, he could be an annoying little twerp, but I would have a lot of respect for him if he showed up now, if he doesn't then he's proven what a little scrote he is!!!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2011 19:59:32 GMT 1
Let me say first of all how proud i was to be amongst the few hundred who flew the flag for Shrewsbury. The noise and support was continuous throughout the match, and put their so called support to shame. In fact we hardly heard a peep from them all match. When our backs are against the wall, we sing even louder. When Fail are down, their support is pathetic. On the flag theme, before the match their mascot thing was parading around the ground with a huge pole in his hand with the Union Jack and Stars and Stripe flags on it. How naff was that. Looked really cheesy and showed no class whatsoever. Made their club look like the dicks they are. Goldson came on early due to SCS going off injured and looked really nervous, but improved after the break. Did well to play full back when his position is centre-half. Grandison moved into the middle of defence, and both him and Hazell were immense. The MoTM award should go to the whole team. Watch the goals tonight, Marvins was sublime, Wrightys good following a quick break, and Lionel put his chance away to open his account following great work by Morgan and Wroe ( i think) Were they a dirty side, for me, YES. Strange that their card count was high and spread about throughout the team. Got the feeling they were making sure we got a kickin' but escaped red cards. Leave Smithy alone. He made a mistake, came when he might of stayed but he did'nt have much option. Maybe Goldson should have come across quicker and covered, but maybe if Wrighty had not lost the ball by giving away possession needlessly, they would'nt have scored. For me a case of football triumphing over hoofball. And the signing of the season, got to be MMM. Watch it tonight, and ENJOY.
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Post by elmundo on Sept 17, 2011 20:04:31 GMT 1
According to Vale fans they made an average side look like world beaters.
Apparently we are not a patch on the side that played them last season.
And the atmosphere was dead.
I presume they must have been at a different game to me? Or, perhaps, they can't quite handle losing to us?
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Post by vivasalopia on Sept 17, 2011 20:12:07 GMT 1
Let me say first of all how proud i was to be amongst the few hundred who flew the flag for Shrewsbury. The noise and support was continuous throughout the match, and put their so called support to shame. In fact we hardly heard a peep from them all match. When our backs are against the wall, we sing even louder. When Fail are down, their support is pathetic. On the flag theme, before the match their mascot thing was parading around the ground with a huge pole in his hand with the Union Jack and Stars and Stripe flags on it. How naff was that. Looked really cheesy and showed no class whatsoever. Made their club look like the dicks they are. Goldson came on early due to SCS going off injured and looked really nervous, but improved after the break. Did well to play full back when his position is centre-half. Grandison moved into the middle of defence, and both him and Hazell were immense. The MoTM award should go to the whole team. Watch the goals tonight, Marvins was sublime, Wrightys good following a quick break, and Lionel put his chance away to open his account following great work by Morgan and Wroe ( i think) Were they a dirty side, for me, YES. Strange that their card count was high and spread about throughout the team. Got the feeling they were making sure we got a kickin' but escaped red cards. Leave Smithy alone. He made a mistake, came when he might of stayed but he did'nt have much option. Maybe Goldson should have come across quicker and covered, but maybe if Wrighty had not lost the ball by giving away possession needlessly, they would'nt have scored. For me a case of football triumphing over hoofball. And the signing of the season, got to be MMM. Watch it tonight, and ENJOY. (For Ainsworth's goal) Wrighty did well to pull it back to Lionel.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Sept 17, 2011 20:21:26 GMT 1
Great to be part of the 595 who gave the team tremendous backing and got to another template away performance to go with the Gillingham one, and three points somewhere we never usually get them.
Vale didn't really impress me at all and in every individual battle we won, our centre mids ran the game.
Was a bit nervy after Shane went off and they scored, but thankfully the experienced heads saw us through to half time where the defence came out a much more organzed unit, Grandison adapting to his new position, and Hazell looking much sharper than against Walsall.
Both goals were soft to concede and I can't remember them having a chance of note other than them, just some rubbish long shots.
The bookings stat tells it all, Vale were very cynical and very rash, tugging shirts, leaving their foot in, seriously they could have had twice as many yellows and a couple of reds for good measure too.
Fantastic support, fantastic win.
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Post by mightyshrew on Sept 17, 2011 20:38:26 GMT 1
Judging from GTs post match comments about the ability, or lack of to keep a clean sheet I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Neale back in goal again soon - What on earth was Smith thinking about when he rushed out and gifted Vale their first? Awful judgement and not for the first time this season. That said a good second half performance with safe hands etc and also a major player in the setting up of the third goal, a terriffic quick release and throw out to Wright who then raced up the flank, won a free kick which resulted in us gaining some breathing space with Ainsworths' goal. Man of the match - McAllister Neil would be back in cause he's cost one goal in a game we won where as other than that he's probably in the top 3 for players of season to date... Just for the record if you drop Smith we need a loan keeper in... Neil is awful
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Post by mightyshrew on Sept 17, 2011 20:43:37 GMT 1
Judging from GTs post match comments about the ability, or lack of to keep a clean sheet I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Neale back in goal again soon - What on earth was Smith thinking about when he rushed out and gifted Vale their first? Awful judgement and not for the first time this season. That said a good second half performance with safe hands etc and also a major player in the setting up of the third goal, a terriffic quick release and throw out to Wright who then raced up the flank, won a free kick which resulted in us gaining some breathing space with Ainsworths' goal. Man of the match - McAllister Oh right Neil would be back in cause he's cost us one goal in a game we won where as other than that he's probably in the top 3 for players of season to date? You fickle lot annoy me. Always looking for a scapegoat when there is no need. Its league 2 for gods sake, if he was more consistent he wouldn't be in League 2 like 99% of league 2 players. Get off his back! Just for the record if you drop Smith we need a loan keeper in... Neil is awful
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Post by elmundo on Sept 17, 2011 20:50:52 GMT 1
It really does annoy me how people can criticise players, yet not be able to even spell their name correctly.
It is Chris NEAL!!
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Post by hooverfoxhat on Sept 17, 2011 20:51:16 GMT 1
Judging from GTs post match comments about the ability, or lack of to keep a clean sheet I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Neale back in goal again soon - What on earth was Smith thinking about when he rushed out and gifted Vale their first? Awful judgement and not for the first time this season. That said a good second half performance with safe hands etc and also a major player in the setting up of the third goal, a terriffic quick release and throw out to Wright who then raced up the flank, won a free kick which resulted in us gaining some breathing space with Ainsworths' goal. Man of the match - McAllister Oh right Neil would be back in cause he's cost us one goal in a game we won where as other than that he's probably in the top 3 for players of season to date? You fickle lot annoy me. Always looking for a scapegoat when there is no need. Its league 2 for gods sake, if he was more consistent he wouldn't be in League 2 like 99% of league 2 players. Get off his back! Just for the record if you drop Smith we need a loan keeper in... Neil is awful Read what I wrote and it's not being fickle at all - Listen to GTs comments post match and he draws attention to the inability to keep a clean sheet, I merely state that I wouldn't be surprised to see a change, if you read a little further on you'll also notice that I praised Smith for his second half performance, where did I say drop him? Just for the record though - Smiths error at Burton that cost us a goal against, way off his line at Oxford for their 1st, basic mistake with his kicking vs Hereford that almost cost us, poor distribution via a throw direct to a Bristol Rovers player on Tuesday that could've cost us, falling arse over tit when totally unchallenged when he ran up for the corner in the final minute of the same game (witness Turners reaction at the time) and todays mistake too. Undoubtedly the better of the 2 but not what I'd call a number 1 keeper. Fickle no, realistic yes, looking for a scapegoat and on his back, no - it was me who shouted at him during the first half to keep his head up to which he acknowledged with a thumbs up and which was rewarded with a round of applause from the fans.
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Post by mightyshrew on Sept 17, 2011 20:58:20 GMT 1
I personally blamed Sharp for the Burton goal
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Post by venceremos on Sept 17, 2011 21:01:46 GMT 1
Outplayed Vale, simple as that. I thought we were much better than them in the 2-2 last season and at last we made it count today. They were flattered by 2-3; we had far more quality on the ball.
Full credit to the defence today - fantastic performances all round. Grandison and Hazell of course, Jacobson - who a battering at times but was consistent as ever, Goldson was great considering he wasn't even down to be on the bench - some great tackles and a wicked cross that Marvin nearly put away. As for Smith, yes he messed up for the first goal but he dealt with the aerial bombardment superbly after that. Drop him? Don't be so daft - he's been one of our most consistent performers all season.
Wasn't sure I'd go to this and must have bought the last tickets at the Meadow yesterday -how glad am I now? At long last the Vale thing is put to bed.
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Post by mightyshrew on Sept 17, 2011 21:03:52 GMT 1
I personally blamed Sharp for the Burton goal Fair enough and I respect your opinion but I think Smith is the best keeper we've had here since Daniels/Phillips/Button and I really don't rate Neil. We could look every goal we have conceded this season and find someone to blame and if we drop them everytime we'll have no team. Yes he has made a couple of mistakes but lets not be too rash. I noted a pass back under pressure today from Sharriff and I at the time I said to my mate with Neil in goal Sharriff would never have made that pass back, he knew he couldn't cause Neil can't kick for a start. Lets just remember how many times Smith has saved us this season and last and focus and numerous positives and not the few negatives. I felt when Turner mentioned not keeping clean sheets he was talking collectively not just about Smith. Lets remember our captain cost us 2 goals conceded this season
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Post by venceremos on Sept 17, 2011 21:06:00 GMT 1
Undoubtedly the better of the 2 but not what I'd call a number 1 keeper. - it was me who shouted at him during the first half to keep his head up to which he acknowledged with a thumbs up and which was rewarded with a round of applause from the fans. Probably won't be a thumb next time - and I wasn't applauding you!
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Post by poolieshrew on Sept 17, 2011 21:12:08 GMT 1
Good point about Goldson i for one didnt consider when he was looking a little jittery when he came on, he wont have even expected to have been stripped at 12 oclock never mind play so fair play. Once he changed his Nike "standfinders" (as tabbed on twitter banter!)at halftime he had a much better 2nd half. Would still expect an emergency loan coming in in the next 48hrs though with only 4 fit defenders left.
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Post by hooverfoxhat on Sept 17, 2011 21:12:33 GMT 1
Bloody hell - Where have I said Smith should be dropped? Just surmising from GTs comments about him not being pleased about the inability to keep a clean sheet, draw from that what you wish. I like Smith, much the better keeper by a long way but far from an accomplished one for me.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Sept 17, 2011 21:12:44 GMT 1
We defended well today bar the keeper error, also the second goal was eerily reminiscent of the Bristol Rovers goal.
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Post by mightyshrew on Sept 17, 2011 21:22:47 GMT 1
Noted but I don't think your witness much better at this level
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Post by poolieshrew on Sept 17, 2011 21:23:40 GMT 1
Bloody hell - Where have I said Smith should be dropped? Just surmising from GTs comments about him not being pleased about the inability to keep a clean sheet, draw from that what you wish. I like Smith, much the better keeper by a long way but far from an accomplished one for me. Share the same view with all of that but think in general the standard of goalkeeping has dropped throughout the lower leagues so not sure an upgrade over either of our Keepers would be easily aquired even via a loan. Will Continue to back Smith but he doesnt convince me despite a solid 2nd half today.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Sept 17, 2011 21:32:50 GMT 1
According to Vale fans they made an average side look like world beaters. Apparently we are not a patch on the side that played them last season. And the atmosphere was dead. I presume they must have been at a different game to me? Or, perhaps, they can't quite handle losing to us? Just read this beauty: deserved to lose we were awful shrewsbury were not much better but edged the game
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Post by Exkeeper on Sept 17, 2011 21:37:54 GMT 1
Brilliant day out. The last 10 minutes were more scary than they needed to be - but that is how Town always do things. I heard two Vale fans talking outside the ground on the way back to the car, and both were agreeing that the best team won. Nice to meet Hoover and Windsor and to see Downie again. For what it's worth I agree 100% with Hoover's assessment of our keeper. He is a good shot stopper but needs to improve other facets of his game. Fair play to him though, for showing the bottle to put his mistake behind him in the second half.
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