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Post by elderstatesman on May 24, 2011 7:20:53 GMT 1
Got this on good authority:Raven,Danny Taylor,Hooman,Disleyand McIntyre released as well as Lomax
I changed the title of the thread as this can the Retained list discussion thread rather than several of them - Cheers, Pricey
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Post by ratcliffesghost on May 24, 2011 7:27:01 GMT 1
According to Radio Shropshire official announcement within the hour
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Post by mrbunny on May 24, 2011 7:30:42 GMT 1
If that is true it is a shame about Raven but i can understand the decision.
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Post by kuliloach on May 24, 2011 8:00:14 GMT 1
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Post by mattmw on May 24, 2011 8:20:36 GMT 1
Slightly surprised about Raven but maybe the fitness side of his game has led to him being released. With two experienced midfielders going I'm assuming that's the area of the team Turner will be looking at to add to most of all
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Post by theyesman on May 24, 2011 8:38:35 GMT 1
Fuming that Raven has been let go, one of the best right backs in the league and we've let him go!! And Leslie offered another contract, dear God why?!? He's been here long enough, he's done bugger all and never shown his potential. It was his time to leave I'm afraid!
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Post by SouthStandShrew on May 24, 2011 8:41:58 GMT 1
Steve Leslie getting offered a contract is almost a crime.
Gutted for Dave Raven however.
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Post by southshropblue on May 24, 2011 8:43:20 GMT 1
Raven is a good player it can only be that he is injury prone that stopped him getting anew contract
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Post by SouthStandShrew on May 24, 2011 8:46:46 GMT 1
Interestingly no word on Jake Robinson?
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Post by shrewinjapan on May 24, 2011 8:58:24 GMT 1
Interestingly no word on Jake Robinson? He's still at Torquay until the play-off final, so not that surprising.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2011 9:03:59 GMT 1
Surprised at Leslie being offered a new deal but hope he can repay the faith shown to him by the manager.
Interesting comments about the impact of his time on loan too.
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Post by shrewblue on May 24, 2011 9:08:54 GMT 1
I think that is a balanced reaction to our season making way for a few changes of personnel
Sad to see Dave Raven go but his lack of availability due to injury has no doubt tipped the decision in favour of release.
So Steve Leslie has been offered yet another opportunity to push on and finally realise his undoubted potential I truly hope this is the season he shows his true worth for him and the club
In the next 10 weeks or so I am hoping we bring in the sort of quality players we need to achieve automatic promotion and of course I sincerely hope Jon Taylor signs a contract with us so that he can continue his impressive development.
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Post by hooverfoxhat on May 24, 2011 9:09:29 GMT 1
Sorry to be negative but if Grandison is going to be touted as our future right back then all I can say is God help us, with Raven gone we surely need a recognised replacement who can actually fill thecrole.
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on May 24, 2011 9:09:40 GMT 1
My thoughts on the list
Craig Disley - Let go - Decent player on his day, but unfortunatly too injury prone for a tilt at starting regually next seson, when we could go out and get another robust player of equal if not better ability - 8/10 for that one
Dave Raven - Let go - Strange one this, other than one injury and a niggle seems like he was by far the best right back at the club and reliable and most importantly good. If were gooming Grandison there next season you have to worry on his recent showings, but we may have someone else lined up - 5/10
Kevin Mac - We know im not a fan, and frankley this is the right time for him to move on. Had his moments, Bury in the playoff springs to mind, but I was in the camp that he was carried through many games, espesially last season under Simpson 8/10
Danny Taylor - let go - Not seen much of him, not had much of a chance, will probabley get fixed up else where in the conference. 7/10
Harry Hooman - Let go - Had c couple of chances, and did not look like the read deal. Again good enough for a pro carrer further down the ladder - 8/10
Jon Taylor - Offered Contract - Well thats a start, but this will all be judged on if he signs it... It should have been on the table in Jan/Feb when we saw the talent the guy had, and if he dones not sign,the club need to rethink there policy on mid season contracts. - Pending!
Steve Leslie - Offered Contract - Jesus, really, has this actually happened... I predict another season going backwards for Leslie, and just pray its a one year extension! Really though he had his last game for the club - 3/10
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Post by Scarecrow on May 24, 2011 9:10:51 GMT 1
No word on Lomax? Does that mean he's been released too?
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Post by Scarecrow on May 24, 2011 9:14:59 GMT 1
This is also a lack of ambition by the club by keeping Leslie. He is simply not good enough and if they've released Raven then I am bemused they kept Leslie! If our club is serious about promotion then Leslie should have gone
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on May 24, 2011 9:16:53 GMT 1
Lomax was only on Short term contract was he not?
Likely that that contract does not expire untill end of the playoffs (as we would have wanted cover untill the final). I assume the news will be up then when the contract has exprired?
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2011 9:17:44 GMT 1
happy with all of them. i think leslie has the talent and is just in need of someone to bring it to the fore on a more consistant basis. scored a couple of our best goals this season (if my memory serves, could have been last season ). and lets face it, we are shockingly short of midfielders who can run at players (in a forward direction) and doesnt mind having a pop. agree with El H about the contracts issue. A talent like JT should have been signed up months ago and i would be interested to know why that never happened.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on May 24, 2011 9:23:12 GMT 1
Raven and Leslie will be the two that polarise opinion. A few might have seen reason to keep a coupe of others, but it was expected they'd go and on the whole accepted.
As others say, the only possible reason for Raven is his injury situation. No matter how good a right back is you really need them playing in more than half your games, especially when you haven't got the biggest squad. I would advise Hoover not to worry too much, as with Raven, Taylor and Lomax all being let go I imagine a right back would be very high on Turner's agenda, I wouldn't be surprised if he's already identified someone.
As for Leslie, it's a bit of a surprise, but I think Turner's always rated him. Recall his comments when he loaned him out to Hereford, how it should help his development and everything. Sounded like a manager who genuinelly did want to get the best out of the player. Leslie has certainly got talent and surprised that GT seems to allude that he suffers from confidence issues, so I'll be getting behind him everytime we see him. If we can get the best out of Leslie on a regular basis we've got a very good assest for this level on our hands. Also, with Wright and Ainsworth signed up, and hopefully Taylor and now Leslie, we may already have next seasons wide-men in place.
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Post by lionshrew on May 24, 2011 9:28:13 GMT 1
Feel gutted about David Raven being let go, felt he was a good defender.
I would have kept Raven personally.
Happy about Leslie and Jon Taylor getting new deals.
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Post by saloplad93 on May 24, 2011 9:30:14 GMT 1
Every single manager who has been at the club since Leslie came through the ranks has always said hes a good player, has a decent left foot and all have given him a chance. Surely 3 managers and a number of coaching staff cant be wrong. I honestly believe next season is the time to get behind him and I'm confident he can show what he must undoubtedly show in training. As for the others; I am surprised and upset that David Raven has gone but it must be because he believes he can get someone better and less injury prone. Of the others i think that they are all the correct decisions because there are better players out there.
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Post by heavenlyshrew on May 24, 2011 9:36:27 GMT 1
Has Leslie been signed on as a benchwarmer,that is the only reason he has been kept on. If he has been signed on as someone who will be in the starting 11 then it is a waste of money, GT you are in a no win with this. He aint good enough
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Post by Jonah on May 24, 2011 9:37:42 GMT 1
Good on you Steve lad Now get yourself down to Telepost BC and sign on for the Friday side
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Post by heavenlyshrew on May 24, 2011 9:40:48 GMT 1
Good on you Steve lad Now get yourself down to Telepost BC and sign on for the Friday side Jonah i think that is a typo i think you mean telepost FC
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Post by Jonah on May 24, 2011 9:43:41 GMT 1
Good on you Steve lad Now get yourself down to Telepost BC and sign on for the Friday side Jonah i think that is a typo i think you mean telepost FC Very good Heavenly No I have got it right. Anyway according to the experts on here he cant play football
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2011 9:43:44 GMT 1
. He aint good enough based upon your opinion of Chris Hump is nothing more than a pub team player, i would suggest that Steve Leslie is going to be a star player for us next year.
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Post by northwestman on May 24, 2011 9:44:23 GMT 1
As another has already posted on here..hope we can come to some deal with Neal and Elder to terminate their contracts.
Surely Neal won't cost that much to pay off? Not so sure about Elder though..season long loan somewhere seems the best option.
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Post by ssshrew on May 24, 2011 9:47:57 GMT 1
It may be that GT wants to give Elder a run in the team at some time to see how he goes though. After all, I assume the club have invested quite a bit in him both in finance (?insurance) and time this season. They may wish to see if they can gain anything from their investment.
Also, in fairness to him, he has had a positive attitude when interviewed, GT obviously admires the way he is fighting back from injury, and perhaps we should give him a chance.
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Post by Slackbladder on May 24, 2011 9:51:36 GMT 1
Every single manager who has been at the club since Leslie came through the ranks has always said hes a good player, has a decent left foot and all have given him a chance. Surely 3 managers and a number of coaching staff cant be wrong. I honestly believe next season is the time to get behind him and I'm confident he can show what he must undoubtedly show in training. As for the others; I am surprised and upset that David Raven has gone but it must be because he believes he can get someone better and less injury prone. Of the others i think that they are all the correct decisions because there are better players out there. I couldn't have said it better myself. I trust GT and his staff over and above the views of the terrace (grandstand) critics. I believe that if Steve Leslie was given support by all of us he could well blossom into a good player at this level. The fact that too many people want to get on his back doesn't help the lad who clearly thrives on confidence. A case in point happened against Bury this season. We were already 3-0 down when SL was brought on. Within a couple of minutes there was a misunderstanding between him and another player - think it was Wrighty - which was a 50/50 error. The majority of people around me chose to loudly berate SL. The bloke next to me only shut up when I pointed out that plenty of others had spent 80 minutes making mistakes. For me this just highlighted why I think it will be hard for him to succeed here. He will have to play like Messi every week to get people on his side, as soon as he makes the slightest error people will be on his back and he won't thrive under those conditions. As for Raven I would have given him another 12 month contract - quality right back in my view who made the team stronger when he played. I hope we find someone equally as good if not better during the summer.
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Post by shrewsTRUST on May 24, 2011 9:57:30 GMT 1
Every single manager who has been at the club since Leslie came through the ranks has always said hes a good player, has a decent left foot and all have given him a chance. Surely 3 managers and a number of coaching staff cant be wrong. I honestly believe next season is the time to get behind him and I'm confident he can show what he must undoubtedly show in training. As for the others; I am surprised and upset that David Raven has gone but it must be because he believes he can get someone better and less injury prone. Of the others i think that they are all the correct decisions because there are better players out there. I couldn't have said it better myself. I trust GT and his staff over and above the views of the terrace (grandstand) critics. I believe that if Steve Leslie was given support by all of us he could well blossom into a good player at this level. The fact that too many people want to get on his back doesn't help the lad who clearly thrives on confidence. A case in point happened against Bury this season. We were already 3-0 down when SL was brought on. Within a couple of minutes there was a misunderstanding between him and another player - think it was Wrighty - which was a 50/50 error. The majority of people around me chose to loudly berate SL. The bloke next to me only shut up when I pointed out that plenty of others had spent 80 minutes making mistakes. For me this just highlighted why I think it will be hard for him to succeed here. He will have to play like Messi every week to get people on his side, as soon as he makes the slightest error people will be on his back and he won't thrive under those conditions. As for Raven I would have given him another 12 month contract - quality right back in my view who made the team stronger when he played. I hope we find someone equally as good if not better during the summer. Link------> TEXT TO DISPLAY
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