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Post by Optimistic Shrew on Aug 25, 2010 10:20:10 GMT 1
It was a shame for me that 3 Town fans were ejected last night in a game we were all supposed to enjoy and wasn't all about the result. 2 thrown out in the second half before we scored and one straight after we scored, I presume that one tried to get on the pitch?
Anybody know why they were thrown out and it all kicked off down the front there? Was near the back of block 40 so don't know.
A real shame.
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Post by theriverside on Aug 25, 2010 10:24:01 GMT 1
The first one jumped on the track in front of the seats possibly ranting at the ref who had just ignored a dreadful challenge on a Town player. That was enough to get him carted off, I guess he thought it funny to struggle so much. His mate then started having a go about this and while another steward tried to hold him back from getting on the track he pushed the steward so that was the end of him................pointless behaviour.
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Aug 25, 2010 10:51:14 GMT 1
Was down the front and put this on another thread
it was actually 4
1st half someone from the right front of the stand was taken out... protesting his innocence... looked to be nothing in that but he could have done or said anything... never saw it
Second half another lad got thrown out for nothing, there was a point where the ref missed a clear free kick for hus and he was shouting at the ref, and the stewards went in and picked him out off the front row...
This annoyed a lot of normal town fans around him and it got quite heated.. not helped by all the causals then getting nekcy and having a go at the stewards
After that we scored and one bloke jumped on the pitch and was fairly thrown out, followed by his mate (a trouble making sort) who jumped over to Rescue him and was also thown out/
there followed a nasty 10 minutes when the stewards recived lots of abuse from town fans at the front (well the trouble makers) and some of the stewards (bald hard looking types) actually goaded them... never seen that before...
Thankfully it all passed off peacfully at the end as the players came off... but was not pretty...
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Post by JJShrew on Aug 25, 2010 11:09:33 GMT 1
I guess he thought it funny to struggle so much. Let's see you get carted off extremely unfairly and in an ultra aggressive manner and see how you feel about it then shall we! I must say that I was extremely annoyed by a couple of things that went on last night. No food??? FFS, if they were expecting 12 then one batch of meat and potato pies would have been enough, did no-one mention to the caterers that we were bringing upwards of 2000??? Clowns Then, the 1st eviction of the 2nd half, I know the lad and his mates that were sitting next to him. He slipped over the wall when getting a bit over excited at the ref missing a fairly obvious free kick to the town then, as he was getting back into his seat, two idiots in yellow vests decide to drag him out in a very aggressive manner. There was no need, hence why I got irate and gave the female steward who seemed to be in control (lol) a piece of my mind. Complete bunch of numpties. And yes I also saw some of the security goading the casuals, asking for trouble. These were nothing but security guards, meatheads who think they are important when they are nothing but door security on a friday/saturday night, the worst thing that ever happened in a football stadium was the introduction of these tools!
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Post by samtheshrew on Aug 25, 2010 11:23:46 GMT 1
Just for the record too, due to the nature of the way the second lad was carted off, he had to go to hospital with a suspected broken elbow.
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Post by Fingers on Aug 25, 2010 11:57:06 GMT 1
Was sat behind the first guy who went out, he was sat about two rows from the front, got up put his leg over the wall and started walking - I think he was a little tipsy and was trying to find the toilet. No protest from him and walked out with the steward.
As far as the others go didnt really see much of it but why struggle? You will never get away from the stewards.
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Post by OswestrySalopian on Aug 25, 2010 12:37:50 GMT 1
Just for the record too, due to the nature of the way the second lad was carted off, he had to go to hospital with a suspected broken elbow. If thats the case, then i hope that fines and suspensions will be handed out to the stewards in question, was clearly over the top stewarding for me.
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Post by greeny on Aug 25, 2010 12:38:29 GMT 1
I guess he thought it funny to struggle so much. Let's see you get carted off extremely unfairly and in an ultra aggressive manner and see how you feel about it then shall we! i was sat near the front, he had actually lost his shoe as he fell over the barrier. from what i made of it he started going quietly and then as he realised he didnt have his trainer on turned and said that he needed his shoe, the stewards seemed to think he was trying to run off and then they got abit more forceful and then 2 or 3 more stewards joined in, picked his legs up and carried him away. did seem abit overzelous. his shoe follwed with another steward.
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Post by froggy on Aug 25, 2010 12:53:59 GMT 1
I guess he thought it funny to struggle so much. Let's see you get carted off extremely unfairly and in an ultra aggressive manner and see how you feel about it then shall we! I must say that I was extremely annoyed by a couple of things that went on last night. No food??? FFS, if they were expecting 12 then one batch of meat and potato pies would have been enough, did no-one mention to the caterers that we were bringing upwards of 2000??? Clowns Then, the 1st eviction of the 2nd half, I know the lad and his mates that were sitting next to him. He slipped over the wall when getting a bit over excited at the ref missing a fairly obvious free kick to the town then, as he was getting back into his seat, two idiots in yellow vests decide to drag him out in a very aggressive manner. There was no need, hence why I got irate and gave the female steward who seemed to be in control (lol) a piece of my mind. Complete bunch of numpties. And yes I also saw some of the security goading the casuals, asking for trouble. These were nothing but security guards, meatheads who think they are important when they are nothing but door security on a friday/saturday night, the worst thing that ever happened in a football stadium was the introduction of these tools! extreme bias opinion from yourself. I'm sorry, but EVERY single fan knows that you're NOT ALLOWED on the pitch. Even if he fell onto the pitch, he shouldn't have had his body leaning over the barrier. Its not so crammed at that stadium that you're hanging over the barrier is it? As for the unfairness, they're doing their jobs, think about it, 2000 fans going mental and obviously annoyed and one pops over the barrier, they have to remover him instantly. No hesitation. As for the manner in which they escorted him, it was completely fair, if anything the t****r deserved to be smacked round the face. Poor bloke, a suspected broken elbow, i'm sure he doesn't give a crap about the steward who he kicked in the face. His friend was sensible and was escorted easily. I feel ashamed that we have fans that act in this way, what made it worse was that the fans infront of me applauded him as he was getting carried away. Finally, i'm sure you feel so big and feel you achieved something by splashing abuse at a female steward. Well done
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Post by DaveG on Aug 25, 2010 12:55:50 GMT 1
The first lad to go seemed very unlucky to me - the rest of them deserved everything they got. The worst kind of "fans" who are only concerned about looking hard to the rest of us. The abuse, quite a bit of it racist, that they were giving the stewards was ridiculous, and I really don't blame the stewards for treating them with contempt.
A stain on the club, albeit one which will never go away. The only consolation to me is that our "element" now seems alot smaller than it was and a fraction of the size of clubs like Stoke.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2010 13:38:41 GMT 1
Let's see you get carted off extremely unfairly and in an ultra aggressive manner and see how you feel about it then shall we! I must say that I was extremely annoyed by a couple of things that went on last night. No food??? FFS, if they were expecting 12 then one batch of meat and potato pies would have been enough, did no-one mention to the caterers that we were bringing upwards of 2000??? Clowns Then, the 1st eviction of the 2nd half, I know the lad and his mates that were sitting next to him. He slipped over the wall when getting a bit over excited at the ref missing a fairly obvious free kick to the town then, as he was getting back into his seat, two idiots in yellow vests decide to drag him out in a very aggressive manner. There was no need, hence why I got irate and gave the female steward who seemed to be in control (lol) a piece of my mind. Complete bunch of numpties. And yes I also saw some of the security goading the casuals, asking for trouble. These were nothing but security guards, meatheads who think they are important when they are nothing but door security on a friday/saturday night, the worst thing that ever happened in a football stadium was the introduction of these tools! As for the manner in which they escorted him, it was completely fair, if anything the t****r deserved to be smacked round the face. Poor bloke, a suspected broken elbow, i'm sure he doesn't give a cr@p about the steward who he kicked in the face. His friend was sensible and was escorted easily. I feel ashamed that we have fans that act in this way, what made it worse was that the fans infront of me applauded him as he was getting carried away. Totally agree with that last bit - some of our fans are an absolute disgrace and an embarassment to the club. I don't know what makes them think that they have the right to abuse people and break the law and get away with it - this is from the set of fans who were singing "loyal supporters" at a couple of points during the game - " disgusting Supporters" more like............The game was my Dad's first away game for many years and I don't think he could believe the way some of the 'supporters' were carrying on - and he commented on the choice of language several times. I don't think he will be coming to an away game again for a long time. As he said if he was the parent of a of a young child he would have to think very hard about taking them to games these days!
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Aug 25, 2010 14:04:22 GMT 1
I also herd morons sining EEEDL last night at the asian lads stewardning..... pathetic really...
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Post by Myddleshrew on Aug 25, 2010 14:06:38 GMT 1
I bet these who got thrown out were 16-18 yr olds who thought lets go to stoke and play football factory
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Post by monkee on Aug 25, 2010 14:08:44 GMT 1
did the lad who fell over the barrier have a few beers before the incident?
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Post by samtheshrew on Aug 25, 2010 14:09:04 GMT 1
I bet these who got thrown out were 16-18 yr olds who thought lets go to stoke and play football factory Well thats one bet you have lost then
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Post by Myddleshrew on Aug 25, 2010 14:13:42 GMT 1
I bet these who got thrown out were 16-18 yr olds who thought lets go to stoke and play football factory Well thats one bet you have lost then Wasnt the one lad the one who was involved in a knife inciddent in the summer
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Post by samtheshrew on Aug 25, 2010 14:15:00 GMT 1
Well thats one bet you have lost then Wasnt the one lad the one who was involved in a knife inciddent in the summer Don't know, the only lad I know who got ejected is over the age you stated, so you lost your bet
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Post by heavenlyshrew on Aug 25, 2010 14:20:17 GMT 1
I also herd morons sining EEEDL last night at the asian lads stewardning..... pathetic really... Freedom of speech nowt wrong with that. Question for you Glyn would you call them pathectic to their faces or would you walk away? P.s your spelling is worse than mine.
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Post by samtheshrew on Aug 25, 2010 14:21:18 GMT 1
I also herd morons sining EEEDL last night at the asian lads stewardning..... pathetic really... Freedom of speech nowt wrong with that. Question for you Glyn would you call them pathectic to their faces or would you walk away? P.s your spelling is worse than mine. Inciting racial hatred. Law breaking.
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Aug 25, 2010 14:26:39 GMT 1
No problem with freedom of speech, but what place does it have in the context of last night???
Really just a nasty agressive chant designed to belittle and upset people who were most likely ENGLISH! Surely in the " defence" of England, that includes all ENGLISH people or did I miss the point?
I have to say the "morons" and yes i would likely never call them at to there face because the moronic people are incapable of reason and would likely just punch me, and frankley I have no need to get punched by a bunch of drunk agressive men, who were more intrested in causeing trouble and not even watching the game I was there to see..
Proof in point, at 2-0 down and while to go in the half, they all just left, all of them??? Town fans? I dont think so?
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Post by stfcfan87 on Aug 25, 2010 14:27:07 GMT 1
just wished the morons in question were named and shamed so they could be kicked out permanently.
And freedom of speech? oh jesus.
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Post by monkee on Aug 25, 2010 14:27:43 GMT 1
I also herd morons sining EEEDL last night at the asian lads stewardning..... pathetic really... Freedom of speech nowt wrong with that. Question for you Glyn would you call them pathectic to their faces or would you walk away? P.s your spelling is worse than mine. so is what you are saying is that we should tolerate it because they are likely to hit someone if they complain to their faces? freedom of speech is a wonderful thing, it means that i can say that i think the edl and its members are moronic racists who are using the edl as a flag of convenience to cause trouble. i hope they all die
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Aug 25, 2010 14:29:24 GMT 1
Ps singing EEEDL was not the worst thing I saw people shouting down the front last night... rasist all along to be honest...
And for pretty much no reason.. with no justification other than predudice of some kind...
Note that the same people were quick to turn on the aisian lads but pretty quite when the hard looking skinhead looking white blokes came along!
Im view no place for it all in football... Be intrested to see what Wrighty, Ainsworth and Hakan Dyan would have made of it....
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Post by dee on Aug 25, 2010 14:34:25 GMT 1
Let's see you get carted off extremely unfairly and in an ultra aggressive manner and see how you feel about it then shall we! I must say that I was extremely annoyed by a couple of things that went on last night. No food??? FFS, if they were expecting 12 then one batch of meat and potato pies would have been enough, did no-one mention to the caterers that we were bringing upwards of 2000??? Clowns Then, the 1st eviction of the 2nd half, I know the lad and his mates that were sitting next to him. He slipped over the wall when getting a bit over excited at the ref missing a fairly obvious free kick to the town then, as he was getting back into his seat, two idiots in yellow vests decide to drag him out in a very aggressive manner. There was no need, hence why I got irate and gave the female steward who seemed to be in control (lol) a piece of my mind. Complete bunch of numpties. And yes I also saw some of the security goading the casuals, asking for trouble. These were nothing but security guards, meatheads who think they are important when they are nothing but door security on a friday/saturday night, the worst thing that ever happened in a football stadium was the introduction of these tools! extreme bias opinion from yourself. I'm sorry, but EVERY single fan knows that you're NOT ALLOWED on the pitch. Even if he fell onto the pitch, he shouldn't have had his body leaning over the barrier. Its not so crammed at that stadium that you're hanging over the barrier is it? As for the unfairness, they're doing their jobs, think about it, 2000 fans going mental and obviously annoyed and one pops over the barrier, they have to remover him instantly. No hesitation. As for the manner in which they escorted him, it was completely fair, if anything the t****r deserved to be smacked round the face. Poor bloke, a suspected broken elbow, i'm sure he doesn't give a cr@p about the steward who he kicked in the face. His friend was sensible and was escorted easily. I feel ashamed that we have fans that act in this way, what made it worse was that the fans infront of me applauded him as he was getting carried away. Finally, i'm sure you feel so big and feel you achieved something by splashing abuse at a female steward. Well done One he didn’t run on the pitch so if you want to throw your opinion around get your facts right first! He fell over the wall and yes maybe shouldn’t have leaned forward, maybe he had, had too much to drink and maybe they were right to throw him out but I saw how the woman steward handled the situation and she was out of order. Two I am female and heard how the woman steward spoke to allot of people which caused allot of Fans to get annoyed and angry, her attitude was nothing more of a joke but I don’t sit on message boards all day complaining and b***hing about things, I wrote to Stoke Football club this morning putting in a formal complaint against the 'female Steward' in question as when asked calmly by a young town support a question she told me to ‘Shut up and Sit down’. Later on when I asked her for name cause I wanted to make a complaint and she told them ‘I am not giving you my name, now go away’. This isn’t the sort of attitude I expect to get from a steward let alone a lady steward but at the end of the day she is there to do a job and supporters asking questions as far as I was aware was part of her job. Hopefully the club will take some action about her attitude and the way she handles situations.
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Post by monkee on Aug 25, 2010 14:45:32 GMT 1
extreme bias opinion from yourself. I'm sorry, but EVERY single fan knows that you're NOT ALLOWED on the pitch. Even if he fell onto the pitch, he shouldn't have had his body leaning over the barrier. Its not so crammed at that stadium that you're hanging over the barrier is it? As for the unfairness, they're doing their jobs, think about it, 2000 fans going mental and obviously annoyed and one pops over the barrier, they have to remover him instantly. No hesitation. As for the manner in which they escorted him, it was completely fair, if anything the t****r deserved to be smacked round the face. Poor bloke, a suspected broken elbow, i'm sure he doesn't give a cr@p about the steward who he kicked in the face. His friend was sensible and was escorted easily. I feel ashamed that we have fans that act in this way, what made it worse was that the fans infront of me applauded him as he was getting carried away. Finally, i'm sure you feel so big and feel you achieved something by splashing abuse at a female steward. Well done One he didn’t run on the pitch so if you want to throw your opinion around get your facts right first! He fell over the wall and yes maybe shouldn’t have leaned forward, maybe he had, had too much to drink and maybe they were right to throw him out but I saw how the woman steward handled the situation and she was out of order. Two I am female and heard how the woman steward spoke to allot of people which caused allot of Fans to get annoyed and angry, her attitude was nothing more of a joke but I don’t sit on message boards all day complaining and b***hing about things, I wrote to Stoke football club this morning putting in a formal complaint against the 'female Steward' in question as when asked calmly by a young town support a question she told me to ‘Shut up and Sit down’. Later on when I asked her for name cause I wanted to make a complaint and she told them ‘I am not giving you my name, now go away’. This isn’t the sort of attitude I expect to get from a steward let alone a lady steward but at the end of the day she is there to do a job and supporters asking questions as far as I was aware was part of her job. Hopefully the club will take some action about her attitude and the way she handles situations. 1. for my money they were right to throw somebody out for being out of control. i dont understand what she did that was out of order, could you elaborate. 2. how do you know that the others who are complaining havent written to Stoke? 3.sounds like you had grounds to complain, but is it not a separate issue?
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Post by dee on Aug 25, 2010 14:56:38 GMT 1
One he didn’t run on the pitch so if you want to throw your opinion around get your facts right first! He fell over the wall and yes maybe shouldn’t have leaned forward, maybe he had, had too much to drink and maybe they were right to throw him out but I saw how the woman steward handled the situation and she was out of order. Two I am female and heard how the woman steward spoke to allot of people which caused allot of Fans to get annoyed and angry, her attitude was nothing more of a joke but I don’t sit on message boards all day complaining and b***hing about things, I wrote to Stoke football club this morning putting in a formal complaint against the 'female Steward' in question as when asked calmly by a young town support a question she told me to ‘Shut up and Sit down’. Later on when I asked her for name cause I wanted to make a complaint and she told them ‘I am not giving you my name, now go away’. This isn’t the sort of attitude I expect to get from a steward let alone a lady steward but at the end of the day she is there to do a job and supporters asking questions as far as I was aware was part of her job. Hopefully the club will take some action about her attitude and the way she handles situations. 1. for my money they were right to throw somebody out for being out of control. i dont understand what she did that was out of order, could you elaborate. 2. how do you know that the others who are complaining havent written to Stoke? 3.sounds like you had grounds to complain, but is it not a separate issue? 1. Did I say he shouldn’t haven be thrown out, I will elaborate she was out of order by the way she spoke to the fans, one lady wanted to speak with her and she totally ignored, she spoke to that young girl in that matter and the stewards were not even going to throw him out until she called them over. Plus I had the decency to talk to quite a few Stoke Stewards and they actually give me her name and one two different stewards on separate occasions actually said she handled the situation incorrectly and I have put that in my letter of complaint. 2.Whow has wrote and complained? Sorry I apologise if you have, had you? 3. The comment of the female steward I felt was reason for me to think that this is the same subject
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Post by monkee on Aug 25, 2010 15:05:49 GMT 1
1. for my money they were right to throw somebody out for being out of control. i dont understand what she did that was out of order, could you elaborate. 2. how do you know that the others who are complaining havent written to Stoke? 3.sounds like you had grounds to complain, but is it not a separate issue? 1. Did I say he shouldn’t haven be thrown out, I will elaborate she was out of order by the way she spoke to the fans, one lady wanted to speak with her and she totally ignored, she spoke to that young girl in that matter and the stewards were not even going to throw him out until she called them over. Plus I had the decency to talk to quite a few Stoke Stewards and they actually give me her name and one two different stewards on separate occasions actually said she handled the situation incorrectly and I have put that in my letter of complaint. 2.Whow has wrote and complained? Sorry I apologise if you have, had you? 3. The comment of the female steward I felt was reason for me to think that this is the same subject i didnt say you thought that he shouldnt have been thrown out, you made that clear, i just dont understand what it has to do with the chap getting thrown out. i dont know if anyone has complained, i just thought it was a bit of an assumption. i certainly havent comlained as i was well treated by the stewards i came into contact with, and was too far away to see or hear what happened. maybe i have misunderstood what you said, i thought you were connecting the chap being thrown out with the attitude of the particular steward as some sort of mitigation for his actions.
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Post by jaytee on Aug 25, 2010 15:12:25 GMT 1
I don't know whether the lad who was carried out deserved to go or not. But just because you are going to eject someone, doesn't mean you don't have a duty for their safety.
I've carried a few people over the years, but I've never carried anyone in that manner. I thought it made them look a bit ignorant, to be honest.
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Post by dee on Aug 25, 2010 15:19:05 GMT 1
1. Did I say he shouldn’t haven be thrown out, I will elaborate she was out of order by the way she spoke to the fans, one lady wanted to speak with her and she totally ignored, she spoke to that young girl in that matter and the stewards were not even going to throw him out until she called them over. Plus I had the decency to talk to quite a few Stoke Stewards and they actually give me her name and one two different stewards on separate occasions actually said she handled the situation incorrectly and I have put that in my letter of complaint. 2.Whow has wrote and complained? Sorry I apologise if you have, had you? 3. The comment of the female steward I felt was reason for me to think that this is the same subject i didnt say you thought that he shouldnt have been thrown out, you made that clear, i just dont understand what it has to do with the chap getting thrown out. i dont know if anyone has complained, i just thought it was a bit of an assumption. i certainly havent comlained as i was well treated by the stewards i came into contact with, and was too far away to see or hear what happened. maybe i have misunderstood what you said, i thought you were connecting the chap being thrown out with the attitude of the particular steward as some sort of mitigation for his actions. I agree I didnt have much to complain about last night, overall great ground, great stewards and some great support from both Stoke and Town fans, just ashame one stewards attitude ruined parts of it but I didnt want to kick up a fuss, so just logged my complaint this morning and hoping that would be the end of it. I think last night should be remembered for how fantastic our boys did. Glad to hear you enjoyed your experience also
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Post by africanshrew on Aug 25, 2010 15:19:54 GMT 1
I also herd morons sining EEEDL last night at the asian lads stewardning..... pathetic really... Freedom of speech nowt wrong with that. Question for you Glyn would you call them pathectic to their faces or would you walk away? P.s your spelling is worse than mine. Pathetic. Your message seems to be that its okay to insight racial hatred and if your soft enough not to like racism then at least have the decency to get yourself in a fight about it. Absolutely pathetic.
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