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Post by BelleVueShrew on Aug 13, 2010 14:07:12 GMT 1
Does anyone on here actually believe that Blackpool will survive in the Premiership this season?
I noted that when the league predictions were done a couple of weeks back, every single person who posted had them down for relegation.
In Ian Holloway they have a truly inspirational manager. A great motivator who gets players playing like never before. They have also not being given anything like the credit they deserve for the brand of exciting free flowing football they play.
They will shock many sides this season and I believe they will survive and that should make Ian Holloway a strong contender for manager of the season.
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Post by SheffieldShrew on Aug 13, 2010 14:10:59 GMT 1
Have to agree, they have been written off too early, as you say Holloway is a great motivator and there could be trouble for Wigan, West Brom, Wolves, Blackburn and even Birmingham this season.
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Post by blum on Aug 13, 2010 14:11:03 GMT 1
Chris, I'd like to think you're right but I have them a 100% gonners come May, I hope the Wolves go with them other than that not really bothered.. Actually, I am.. Man Utd to win the league!!!
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Post by SouthStandShrew on Aug 13, 2010 14:14:55 GMT 1
Down and out I'm afraid with WBA and Wigan.
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Post by Optimistic Shrew on Aug 13, 2010 14:59:42 GMT 1
Would be the best relegation escape if they were to stay up, no chance.
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Post by SouthStandShrew on Aug 13, 2010 15:02:45 GMT 1
I fancy them to match or better Derbys record a few years back, Jason Euell is the captain, says it all.....
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Post by scooter on Aug 13, 2010 16:39:46 GMT 1
can't see it - already rumours that Holloway is frustrated at lack of money for new signings.
If they are bottom at xmas he could be gone
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Post by Ned on Aug 13, 2010 16:43:19 GMT 1
No chance. They'll go down, and become a mid table Championship side. Just like Derby.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2010 17:09:28 GMT 1
I hope they surprise us all but don't really give them a hope.
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Post by venceremos on Aug 13, 2010 17:37:19 GMT 1
No chance. They'll go down, and become a mid table Championship side. Just like Derby. Still bitter from the play offs eh? Easy to say they'll go straight down but plenty of teams have survived without making huge changes to their Championship squad - Reading, Stoke, Wolves for example. Of course they can stay up and I really hope they do. Just think what a role model they would be for smaller league clubs (including us). Reaching the Premier League with gates of 8,000 was a truly great achievement. The stadium will hold more this season but it will take a lot to survive. But it's not a foregone conclusion and about half the league are potential relegation candidates.
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Post by Dale on Aug 13, 2010 17:55:03 GMT 1
No one gave Wigan a cat in hell's chance of staying up before their first Premier League season, but the difference is that Wigan had a reasonable budget at their disposal.
I really, really would like to see Blackpool stay up, but I'd be amazed if they did, but I can see them pulling off the odd shock result at Bloomfield Road, the key to their survival will be their away form.
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Post by BelleVueShrew on Aug 13, 2010 17:56:55 GMT 1
can't see it - already rumours that Holloway is frustrated at lack of money for new signings. If they are bottom at xmas he could be gone Mostly National papers trying to stir it and create stories where there isn't. Holloway and Oyston are certainly showing a united front and seem defiant in their approach that they won't pay over the odds for players and jeopardise the long term future of the club. That said I'm sure IH has found the many knockbacks from potential targets frustrating. But he is a man of honour who won't sacrifice his principles and who doesn't give up easily. Add to that the fact that Oyston is not a sacking chairman and I think you will see IH at Bloomfield Road for a long time yet. He has turned a bunch of Championship strugglers into a team of Premiership players. He did not give up on signing Charlie Adam last year and got his man at the price he wanted at the very eve of the season. He has a way of selling his ideals and once players see past the pound signs then they see a manager who has cajouled a team who are united and play great attacking football and they see a manager who can progress their career as he has with others under his guidance. He will be loving that everyone is writing them off and will be using that as a tool every week to prove all the doubters wrong. He has made some astute signings in the last couple of days and once they have had a little time to gel and get used to the Holloway principles of playing the game and workrate they will bag the points required to ensure safety.
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Post by BelleVueShrew on Aug 13, 2010 18:03:50 GMT 1
No chance. They'll go down, and become a mid table Championship side. Just like Derby. Still not bitter about being played off the park at Wembley then Ed? I take that as an endorsement to stay up as you predicted they had no chance of beating Forest and then no chance of beating Cardiff All the negatives on here are exactly the comments being made everywhere and Holloway and the team will use them to their advantage to gain the mental strength and desire to go out every week and prove otherwise. People have obviously already forgotten the fantastic football played by the team against Forest and Cardiff. If it had been anyone else, comparisons would have been made with Spain and the great Dutch sides. Instead it is just little old unfashionable Blackpool
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2010 18:09:41 GMT 1
I doubt the Special One would struggle to keep Blackpool in with a shout of staying up with ten games to go.
Holloway is a very inspirational manager, certanly showed this last season, however unless he is able to make a spate of signings before the trasnfer window closes I struggle to see how they can stay up, small inexperienced squad pinning their hopes on the performance of the ex rangers midfielder (forgotten his name)
It speaks volumes that they have actively pursued Coleman, the young Everton right back who was on loan last season and is possibly third choice right back at Everton without much sucess.
Good luck to them mind.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2010 18:12:05 GMT 1
No offence Wynnie, but have you been on the silly juice? I can only imagine that Parka Bull from Bullschat has obtained your login details and is having a bit of fun. Best of luck to em mind
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Post by Rusholme Ruffian on Aug 13, 2010 18:16:13 GMT 1
would love them to stay up, but to continue the sentiment...would be the biggest surprise since the prem started. They have virtually no squad, and what they do have wouldn't turn many heads at league1 clubs. To have any chance, they are going to need Adam to perform heroics once again, start well and get Holloway to get an amazing team spirit. Presume most teams will underestimate them (as i'm doing) which will give them some chance, but just can't see it myself.
Still, Good luck!
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Post by BelleVueShrew on Aug 13, 2010 18:19:04 GMT 1
No offence Wynnie, but have you been on the silly juice? I can only imagine that Parka Bull from Bullschat has obtained your login details and is having a bit of fun. Nope, it's me Ant and sober! No one gave Stoke a cat in hells chance of staying up. They would be rock bottom and struggle to get into double figures on points as I recall it. Funny how everyone accepts them now as a Premiership team as they enter their third season there. Tony Pulis, another truly inspirational manager. It won't be easy Ant, but as someone who follows them closely, I have confidence that they can survive. More importantly, Ian Holloway and the team believe they can survive. Carlsberg don't make football managers, but if they did . . . . . . .
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Post by africanshrew on Aug 13, 2010 18:35:58 GMT 1
Agree with many others - it would be great, but surely they can't?! If ever a single player showed the fine line between success and failure its Matt Gilks - he could so easily be playing Macc on Saturday had things turned out differently...
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Post by The Shropshire Tenor on Aug 13, 2010 19:03:56 GMT 1
My pal is a Burnley season ticket holder, he told me last season that he did not realise how big the gulf between the Premiership and the Championship was until he had seen the top teams in the flesh.
He says Burnely were out of their depth and lucky to get 30 points. He also says Blackpool have less ability than Burnley and are nailed on for a new record low points total.
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Post by Ned on Aug 13, 2010 20:58:12 GMT 1
No chance. They'll go down, and become a mid table Championship side. Just like Derby. Still not bitter about being played off the park at Wembley then Ed? I take that as an endorsement to stay up as you predicted they had no chance of beating Forest and then no chance of beating Cardiff Blackpool did not 'play Cardiff off the park'. Cardiff didn't perform on the day, but 'Pool weren't much better.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2010 21:13:16 GMT 1
No offence Wynnie, but have you been on the silly juice? I can only imagine that Parka Bull from Bullschat has obtained your login details and is having a bit of fun. Nope, it's me Ant and sober! No one gave Stoke a cat in hells chance of staying up. They would be rock bottom and struggle to get into double figures on points as I recall it. Funny how everyone accepts them now as a Premiership team as they enter their third season there. Tony Pulis, another truly inspirational manager. It won't be easy Ant, but as someone who follows them closely, I have confidence that they can survive. More importantly, Ian Holloway and the team believe they can survive. Carlsberg don't make football managers, but if they did . . . . . . . The players and manager think they can survive. Ah well, that seals it
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Post by Mediolanum Shrew on Aug 13, 2010 21:13:45 GMT 1
Is that apart from your good self Mr W.
I think yes. Just1 Need a good start though.
As long as they send Wolves down, who cares ;-0
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Post by Tux on Aug 13, 2010 21:52:21 GMT 1
Not a chance. There gonna finish on lower points then dearby did a few seasons ago. I'd love to see them survive but its just not going to happen.
I know they have already defied all odds and that holloway is a fantastic manager but come on most of there team are not even championship quality.
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Post by hooverfoxhat on Aug 13, 2010 21:56:56 GMT 1
Home form is absolutely vital to Blackpool, I'd love to see them stay up and heart says yes but mind says not.
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Post by shrewroo on Aug 13, 2010 21:59:33 GMT 1
Good old Ollie, eh
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Post by BelleVueShrew on Aug 13, 2010 23:54:19 GMT 1
Still not bitter about being played off the park at Wembley then Ed? I take that as an endorsement to stay up as you predicted they had no chance of beating Forest and then no chance of beating Cardiff Blackpool did not 'play Cardiff off the park'. Cardiff didn't perform on the day, but 'Pool weren't much better. And I thought you went to the game? Cardiff didn't perform because Blackpool played them off the park. They out thought, out fought and out passed them. If you don't think 'Pool were much better' I suggest you come round and watch it on my DVD and I can remind you otherwise
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Post by Ned on Aug 13, 2010 23:56:00 GMT 1
Blackpool did not 'play Cardiff off the park'. Cardiff didn't perform on the day, but 'Pool weren't much better. And I thought you went to the game? Cardiff didn't perform because Blackpool played them off the park. They out thought, out fought and out passed them. If you don't think 'Pool were much better' I suggest you come round and watch it on my DVD and I can remind you otherwise Cardiff were not at their best, and had themselves to blame, if they played like they did for most of the season then it would be Cardiff in the Premier League.
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Post by BelleVueShrew on Aug 14, 2010 0:02:13 GMT 1
And I thought you went to the game? Cardiff didn't perform because Blackpool played them off the park. They out thought, out fought and out passed them. If you don't think 'Pool were much better' I suggest you come round and watch it on my DVD and I can remind you otherwise Cardiff were not at their best, and had themselves to blame, if they played like they did for most of the season then it would be Cardiff in the Premier League. No Ed, they were just beaten by a far superior team - something you admitted at the time. Blackpool peaked at the right time and were awesome in the final furlong. No one outside the Fylde were giving them a monkeys of making the play-offs. Then no one gave them a chance in the play-offs. Like I say just keep writing them off. The only team talk they need.
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Post by penza on Aug 14, 2010 0:28:58 GMT 1
I would really love for then to stay up! They are a great little club who have overachieved to get to where they are this season. Holloway is a top bloke and one of the best personalities in football. But no matter how much id love them to survive i just cant see it. If they do, Holloway would deserve manager of the season and Sports personality of the year! Will be fully behind them along with most other true football fans i would think this season!
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Post by Liam on Aug 14, 2010 0:44:49 GMT 1
Blackpool as a town is as big as several others that have had football teams survive in the Premiership before. It's the same size as Middlesbrough and Blackburn and bigger than the likes of Ipswich and Wigan.
On that basis, in the long term there's no reason they can't survive for a few years at least if they can establish themselves.
Short term, however, it will be a real struggle. If they can survive this season and establish themselves as a respected Premiership team that can attract decent players though, there's no reason they can't hang around for a bit.
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