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Post by AFCBally on Jan 22, 2005 23:39:45 GMT 1
Moss on the radio after todays game said the defence were doing there job they just need someone to score some goals??? err so who conceded 3 goals today? its a pity your players wern't donating money for charity for every point they lose.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2005 23:43:01 GMT 1
4 clean sheets in 6 games, I'd suggest the defence have been doing their job pretty well recently.
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Post by AFCBally on Jan 22, 2005 23:46:02 GMT 1
hmm maybe but considering Peters hasn't done anything wrong yet how come he';s signed a forward Langmead who doesn't score????Although i must admit i have seen him 3 times and he;s looked a decent player, the trouble is a forward is suppsed to put the ball in the net?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2005 23:51:47 GMT 1
Langmead doesn't need to be scoring as long as he's playing for the team, bringing other players into the game and creating opportunities for others. Today he twice produced excellent opportunities for Ryan Lowe and Duane Darby. The real problem to date has been finding a partner for him who will score goals. Hopefully Luke Rodgers will be that man, but we will have to wait and see on that front. With any luck Rodgers' return will mean a lack of threads from you next weekend, because a goal or two from Luke will mean you have no need to try and stir things on here
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Post by AFCBally on Jan 22, 2005 23:57:07 GMT 1
Lol Ant Rodgers hasn't scored regularly for you for a while now, imo he needs to move on to kick start his career and to say you don't need one of your forwards to be scoring is rubbish, i thought thats why you buy forwards to Score? and midfield players to create? as for posting on here this is the first time for a while so be thankful
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2005 23:59:39 GMT 1
I'm a great believer that a striker's primary role need not to be scoring goals. On a Saturday morning our 4 midfielders have 35 goals between them - the strikers have 10 - but we're winning games - so what does it matter who scores the goals? As long as the strikers are creating and playing their part in the victory it doesn't matter a hoot who scores. Luke has hardly played since GP over. If GP can make Jon Grant look like a football league player then I'm confident he can help Luke find his shooting boots
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2005 0:00:03 GMT 1
Langmead has played consistently well for the past few weeks without scoring. A striker doesn't have to score to show he's played well
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Post by AFCBally on Jan 23, 2005 0:04:37 GMT 1
Loyalshrew i agree Langmead does look good from what little i have seen but surely you can't be pleased he's playing well without scoring and the team isn't winning? At the end of the day a forward is judged on how many goals he's scored. Who wants a striker who doesn't score?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2005 0:09:03 GMT 1
Loyalshrew i agree Langmead does look good from what little i have seen but surely you can't be pleased he's playing well without scoring and the team isn't winning? At the end of the day a forward is judged on how many goals he's scored. Who wants a striker who doesn't score? I've justified why I don't think a striker needs to score. He is an essential part of the team that brings other players into the game - there has been an increase in goals from midfielders since he has joined the club Peters has only been here a short time and it will be awhile until he ahs his completed squad. Btw Bally - you're not Professor Pat Pendings aka floreat salopia aka matt's new alter ego are you?
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Post by timgallon on Jan 23, 2005 0:12:49 GMT 1
I'm a great believer that a striker's primary role need not to be scoring goals. On a Saturday morning our 4 midfielders have 35 goals between them - the strikers have 10 - but we're winning games - so what does it matter who scores the goals? As long as the strikers are creating and playing their part in the victory it doesn't matter a hoot who scores. Luke has hardly played since GP over. If GP can make Jon Grant look like a football league player then I'm confident he can help Luke find his shooting boots Thats a shocking statisitc from the ASFC strikers . How many have the defenders got?, i can recall at least 6.
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Post by AFCBally on Jan 23, 2005 0:14:49 GMT 1
Btw Bally - you're not Professor Pat Pendings aka floreat salopia aka matt's new alter ego are you? [/quote] You lost me with that LoyalShrew? Ok LoyalShrew or Ant name a decent side that has played with only one forward who scores? Then i will be convinced
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Post by john on Jan 23, 2005 0:15:55 GMT 1
Bally, you have a knack of trying to solve our clubs problems, pity you couldnt help Andy Shaw solve his last year With the right man alongside him Im sure kelvin will complete his performances with goals. As for Luke, your right there he does need to move on.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2005 0:21:22 GMT 1
Btw Bally - you're not Professor Pat Pendings aka floreat salopia aka matt's new alter ego are you? You lost me with that LoyalShrew? Ok LoyalShrew or Ant name a decent side that has played with only one forward who scores? Then i will be convinced[/quote] Man Utd
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Post by AFCBally on Jan 23, 2005 0:30:54 GMT 1
Van Nistleroy 4 goals in 9 games Smith 5 in 16 Rooney 5 in 13 Langmead 1 in 10
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2005 0:36:38 GMT 1
Why doI need to quote an example? As I've said, as a direct result of Langmead playing our midfield has started scoring more goals - that'll do me. The manager is happy with his performances and so are the fans(you included )
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Post by AFCBally on Jan 23, 2005 0:42:32 GMT 1
you will all only be happy as long as the midfield are scoring when that drys up like the last two games, who will the finger be pointed at the forwards or the midfield?
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Post by manys a twist on Jan 23, 2005 0:52:21 GMT 1
Bally i agree you are the only one talking sense, a forward is there to do a job,, SCORE GOALS... Rodgers 2 this season 12 last with some coing in 3's and 2's hardly a great return,
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jan 23, 2005 1:18:31 GMT 1
What a load of bolloxs...the manager puts a team together to do the best we can, whether its the three or the one point. Langmead has made a big difference and played his part in the wins against Darlo and Bristol...even though he didnt score. He'd done well and I'm happy he's with the Town...who gives a s**t ifs he's scoring or not, as long as he's doing the job he's told to do and we're above the relegation zone he's doing fine by me...
...and anyone whos numpty enough to look at nothing more than the goals he scores is a plum. Langmead is quality, no doubt about it...
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Post by manys a twist on Jan 23, 2005 1:27:49 GMT 1
but surely the job he is being told to do is to score goals?
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jan 23, 2005 1:45:17 GMT 1
I rather fancy most of the players today didnt do what they were supposed to do...
Langmeads a quality player, top signing...simple as...
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Post by rob on Jan 23, 2005 2:13:22 GMT 1
chelsea???
Crystal Palace???
Everton???
Liverpool???
Dont all of these teams either have one "striker" who scores their goals or rely on the midfield to score them
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Post by RG on Jan 23, 2005 9:30:12 GMT 1
Loyalshrew i agree Langmead does look good from what little i have seen but surely you can't be pleased he's playing well without scoring and the team isn't winning? At the end of the day a forward is judged on how many goals he's scored. Who wants a striker who doesn't score? If he played in that Northern Glue league he'd have got 50 this season
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Post by OldGit on Jan 23, 2005 10:48:19 GMT 1
Don't want to give Bally any support, but with 0 goals in our last 3 games, it is a bit worrying and putsa lot of pressure on Luke when he comes back.
I agree that we'll take the 3 pts whoever puts the ball in the net, but with Luke, Ryan, Kelvin, Granty and Darbs all off target lately I'm hoping our new coaching set-up will reap rewards sooner, rather than later. It must certainly be worrying GP.
Here's hoping that Stitch and Luke are both fit for next weekend so we can see Luke tear at their defence and Stitch bring some quality back to our set pieces.
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Post by Salop_Ian on Jan 23, 2005 11:26:05 GMT 1
We actually created more real chances at Darlington than in the last two matches. On another day and with another goal keeper we might have scored a couple of goals. The time you start really worrying is if you're not creating chances as then you are never going to score. Reliable goal scoring strikers are at a premium at any level of football. Bally, have a chat with your chairman on the subject and you will realise how this is true. By the way, contratulations on reaching the semi-finals of the losers' cup. It's only in the Unibond that you can get to a cup semi-final by winning only one cup game in a season. PS - let us know how close you think the Shropshire Gap is now?
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Post by harmerhillshrew on Jan 23, 2005 12:26:18 GMT 1
At the end of the day a forward is judged on how many goals he's scored. Who wants a striker who doesn't score? Yeah quite right Is Carl Tranter still at AFCTU
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Post by Totally Totally Unimpressed on Jan 23, 2005 12:49:42 GMT 1
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Post by Ratcliffesghost on Jan 23, 2005 12:53:05 GMT 1
Why does McNally have Telford listed as a previous club Shouldn't you have a board meeting first ;D
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2005 12:55:44 GMT 1
you will all only be happy as long as the midfield are scoring when that drys up like the last two games, who will the finger be pointed at the forwards or the midfield? If we lose 2 in a row I'll blame Bernard McNally
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Post by scooter on Jan 23, 2005 13:07:29 GMT 1
I have to say that Langmead's lack of goals is a worry. In the last few games he has not had a decent chance, and when he got one yesterday he fluffed it.
He obviously can't do it on his own, and until he finds a partner who scores regularly, we are going to be under a lot of pressure.
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Post by jamo on Jan 23, 2005 13:12:53 GMT 1
Although i must admit i have seen him 3 times and he;s looked a decent player, the trouble is a forward is suppsed to put the ball in the net? How can you claim to have seen him 3 times if you're a KFC fan? don't you go and support the team you claim allegiance to or are you yet another sad little man who lacks the confidence to show their true colours.
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