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Post by ianwhit on Jan 10, 2005 12:40:02 GMT 1
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Post by PorkyShrew on Jan 10, 2005 12:45:38 GMT 1
very interesting set of questions and answers
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Post by SeanBroseley on Jan 10, 2005 12:50:21 GMT 1
Saved me a journey. His not signing a contract isn't a big issue - but clearly it is - the answer shows that.
Quite alarming.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Jan 10, 2005 12:53:46 GMT 1
The man talks sense now it is up to the board to give him what he needs
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Jan 10, 2005 12:58:27 GMT 1
“The Club has been working in a less than professional way on the playing side for a while and people have got into ways of working which are unacceptable”
Well said Gary - this is exactly the sort of thing that no manager at the town in the last 10 years has ever had the balls to say – he sees the problems and looks to be doing something about them!!!
A really interesting set of answers though not sure comparing us to Gypsies is good though (Walsall would have done!!)
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Post by PorkyShrew on Jan 10, 2005 12:59:50 GMT 1
why cant we train at normal place during those monthes?
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Jan 10, 2005 13:01:44 GMT 1
why cant we train at normal place during those monthes? Cos the pitch is an utter state - was up there last Sunday and its a mess - could proabley only take one training session a week - and the facilitys there are poor anyway
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Post by PorkyShrew on Jan 10, 2005 13:05:03 GMT 1
Cos the pitch is an utter state - was up there last Sunday and its a mess - could proabley only take one training session a week - and the facilitys there are poor anyway
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2005 13:13:07 GMT 1
What would be interesting Sean would be take Gary's answers, all of which are perfectly fair and which gives me further good heart, and put them to the board.
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Post by ianwhit on Jan 10, 2005 13:18:14 GMT 1
What would be interesting Sean would be take Gary's answers, all of which are perfectly fair and which gives me further good heart, and put them to the board. Ask The Board anyone
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Post by ianwhit on Jan 10, 2005 13:21:06 GMT 1
Saved me a journey. His not signing a contract isn't a big issue - but clearly it is - the answer shows that. Quite alarming. why is it 'quite alarming'? talking to gary it's obvious he wants to build this club up and take it as far as possible, most things are in place, youth, ground but he's just making sure that the club wants to go the same way as he does.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2005 13:24:13 GMT 1
why is it 'quite alarming'? talking to gary it's obvious he wants to build this club up and take it as far as possible, most things are in place, youth, ground but he's just making sure that the club wants to go the same way as he does. Alarming to me in the fact that if we don't shift our asses, then he could go elsewhere. Keith said at a meeting in October that the plan was to continue using the current training ground for another 2 years......
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Post by warbiesbread on Jan 10, 2005 13:44:18 GMT 1
well said mr peters gone further up in my estimation for what it is worth. No problem about contract and his understanding over the payment for sacking is mind blowing and refreshing. his assessment of the club, not suprising i guess we all had a hunch on these facts. Club need to show there true colours and ambition and not the assumed picture that the club allow and permit
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2005 18:06:24 GMT 1
I don't want him to be our most short lived manager because the Board don't listen to the common sense he speaks. Get the traing ground issue sorted
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Post by shrewforever on Jan 10, 2005 18:45:17 GMT 1
Personally I dont find his comments concerning his contract alarming at all. We have found,IMO,an extremely positive,forward thinking,go getting Manager of our Club who also has mapped out a clear strategic vision for STFC over the short,medium and long term. He is simply asking for the backing of his employers to provide the things he needs to allow him to do the best possible job he can,both for the benefit of his personal pride and CV and also STFC. He is simply,and, rightly so in my view, waiting to see if this commitment and backing is forthcoming from The Board. If it is not I believe he'll be off and I wouldnt blame him. Positive,forward thinking,go getting Manager with a vision. only one question to await the answer to for me, Do we have a positive,forward thinking,go getting Board of Directors who can also look into the future and plan ahead? ? I'm not saying we have'nt, but I'm also not going to say we have. I think we'll find out over the next couple of years. What did alarm me,but not surprise me,were his comments relating to the unprofessional ways some things have been run over the years and the bad habits that have resulted. In the context of what I have written above I wont go on to expand on why I find that EXTREMELY ALARMING INDEED.
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Post by ssshrew on Jan 10, 2005 21:29:38 GMT 1
The only thing about not signing the contract that worries me is: if the absolutely unthinkable happens (and I don't think with him here it will but if it did) and we were relegated - will he stay? ? I really do hope so.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2005 22:42:15 GMT 1
He wouldn't. He said at his first meeting with the fans that he couldn't keep Exeter up and wasn't interested in managing a Conference side.
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Post by timgallon on Jan 10, 2005 22:51:32 GMT 1
Not worried in the slightest about his contract position, i can understand what he is saying.
Good to see him questioning the Club's ambition. maybe the Directors will pull thier fingers out and get some decent facilites like were intially envisaged at the New Meadow rather than the two grass pitches currently planned.
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Post by ssshrew on Jan 10, 2005 22:56:40 GMT 1
No two ways about it - the Directors must sort this sooner rather than later.
Mystics Dad - oh heck I feared as much
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Post by townfanincrewe on Jan 10, 2005 23:40:45 GMT 1
shorly if the bord realy want to keep g/p they will lisen and change their mineds about the astro turf. what ever its going to cost its got to be better money spent than one player. if there is any way to do it id put the astro and two training pitches down now they can build the new ground round them.
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Post by MartinB on Jan 11, 2005 8:50:00 GMT 1
JUST SENT Gary Peters has made a fantastic difference in a short time at the club. Gary Peters man-management skills are clearly showing through in the improvement in performances and has given me tremendous hope for the first time in over 15 years. Gary Peters has stated he will leave the club if the training facilities are not of the required standard at the New Meadow. 1) What assurances can you give the fans that the facilities required by Mr Peters will be part of the new ground? 2) By what date will details of these facilities by announced so the fans can be re-assured that everything is being done to keep Mr Peters at the club? Thank you Martin Berry
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Post by ianwhit on Jan 11, 2005 8:55:18 GMT 1
Gary Peters has stated he will leave the club if the training facilities are not of the required standard at the New Meadow. you after a job with the sun martin? where's he actually said those words?
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Post by MartinB on Jan 11, 2005 9:03:17 GMT 1
Second paragraph of "Ask Gary" looks pretty much like that to me?
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Post by MartinB on Jan 11, 2005 9:05:46 GMT 1
And the bit about "I don't want to do another season of having to travel round to find training facilities"
Looks pretty much like it as well.
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Post by ianwhit on Jan 11, 2005 9:17:47 GMT 1
Second paragraph of "Ask Gary" looks pretty much like that to me? not at all, he doesn't say what you have stated in the email, it's the way you have interprited it. you can also interprit as being we will be moving training full-time to lilleshall/shawbury from next season unless the training ground is up to scratch.. to put that gary has stated he will leave in a question to the board is totally wrong and smacks of tabloid sensationalism.
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Post by MartinB on Jan 11, 2005 9:29:51 GMT 1
You want a bet that Gary Peters will walk away if the facilities aren't right at the new ground?
I have one of my finest English Pounds that says he will quit if facilities aren't what he wants.
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Post by MartinB on Jan 11, 2005 9:38:33 GMT 1
OK then how about
Gary Peters has made a fantastic difference in a short time at the club. Gary Peters man-management skills are clearly showing through in the improvement in performances and has given me tremendous hope for the first time in over 15 years.
From Gary Peters answers to "Ask Gary" posted on Shrewsweb I firmly believe he will walk away from the club if the facilities at the New Meadow at not up to the standards he requires.
1) What assurances can you give the fans that the facilities required by Mr Peters will be part of the new ground?
2) By what date will details of these facilities by announced so the fans can be re-assured that everything is being done to keep Mr Peters at the club?
Thank you
Martin Berry
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Post by SeanBroseley on Jan 11, 2005 10:40:20 GMT 1
Its a matter of balancing the evidence. He links the facilities he has available to signing the contract and he links the facilities he has available to the practical way in which the club can demonstrate it has the ambition that matches his own.
Try to pick a switch to Shawbury/Lilleshall full-time out of that.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jan 11, 2005 11:00:21 GMT 1
In this day and age a contract isn't worth the paper its written on anyhows. If the club want to get shot of him they will, if Peters wishes to move on at some point he will. What's the concern, that we get some sort of compensation if he was to move to another club?
But I have to say, from reading that I agree with Martin...is that an ultimatum to the club? If the training facilities are not in place once we move to the new ground then I gather he will not see the clubs ambitions matching his own. Therefore, what Martin asks is an important question...if the training facilities at the new ground are apart of some criteria set by Peters (with regards to signing a contract and in doing so pledging his future to the club) then we need to know what is to be included at the new ground...
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