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Post by davycrockett on Sept 17, 2024 10:46:10 GMT 1
Well here we go taking on the second promoted club from last seasons league 2. Interestingly or worryingly all 3 appear in the top 8 which is an indication just how strong League 2 is 😩 Many relegated clubs queuing up to bounce straight back after relegation out of the league. Another club that’s bounced back after a few years in no league with increased crowds and optimism averaging 7500 last season and surprisingly already sold out for our game!
We last played them in the FA Cup in 2019 with a 2-0 home win and before that did the double in 2014/5.
Another away game that will see good numbers travel with hope that our team will gel and give us something to relieve the depression. Head says best we can hope is it will kick on our season with a 1-1 draw but heart says 1-2🤞
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Post by wakemanender on Sept 17, 2024 11:07:27 GMT 1
They have a very quick and in form striker in Gregory so we need the Feeney combo in the centre of our defence rather than the very slow defensive partnership we started the season with. A goal for the hard working Lloyd and a clean sheet will do nicely.
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Post by gtismygod on Sept 17, 2024 11:22:18 GMT 1
They have a very quick and in form striker in Gregory so we need the Feeney combo in the centre of our defence rather than the very slow defensive partnership we started the season with. A goal for the hard working Lloyd and a clean sheet will do nicely. I think “quick” is a bit generous. He’s a 36 year old target man. Even Pierre and Nsiala should be able to deal with his pace.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Sept 17, 2024 11:24:37 GMT 1
Dont have too much hope of getting much here going by the stats over the years.
Yes we won the last time there in the league in 14/15 but before that we played 14 games there which were mainly a loss with a few draws (plus 1 win in the FA Cup in 78).
Total record in P28 W6 D6 L16
Wins up at their place were in 14/15, 78/9, 75/6 then a run of 3 consecutive seasons 68/9, 67/8, 66/7.
But as ever with Town hope is eternal.....
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Post by Minormorris64 on Sept 17, 2024 12:17:15 GMT 1
Dont have too much hope of getting much here going by the stats over the years. Yes we won the last time there in the league in 14/15 but before that we played 14 games there which were mainly a loss with a few draws (plus 1 win in the FA Cup in 78). Total record in P28 W6 D6 L16 Wins up at their place were in 14/15, 78/8, 75/6 then a run of 3 consecutive seasons 68/9, 67/8, 66/7. But as ever with Town hope is eternal..... Remember well 1974/75, January 11th lost 1-0 at home, Ken Mulhearn had their striker Terry Eccles by the throat in the back of the net at the Wakeman End ,and they of course pipped Town to the Title
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2024 12:22:06 GMT 1
In a rare bout of optimism I’m semi-confident we’ll get something here for no real reason at all.
2-1 win.
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Post by hectord0g137 on Sept 17, 2024 12:39:05 GMT 1
I had a feeling we will win this one. Its gone now.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Sept 17, 2024 13:55:18 GMT 1
They have a very quick and in form striker in Gregory so we need the Feeney combo in the centre of our defence rather than the very slow defensive partnership we started the season with. A goal for the hard working Lloyd and a clean sheet will do nicely. I think “quick” is a bit generous. He’s a 36 year old target man. Even Pierre and Nsiala should be able to deal with his pace. Pierre and Nisala would struggle with the pace of someone using a Zimmer frame. I really hope both stay on the bench.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Sept 17, 2024 13:59:32 GMT 1
They have 8 points from a possible 15, with a goal difference of minus one. Whilst they are doing a lot better than us, they are not pulling up any trees I hope Perry starts but I doubt it will happen. It is vital we scored first and dont concede any soft goals. The crucial question is can we build on our better performance against Charlton but this time find a way of been more composed and clinical in front of goal
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Post by Bob Rickerton on Sept 17, 2024 15:52:25 GMT 1
Feels like a relatively important game in trying to keep some sort of momentum going and keeping some sort of positivity around the place after an admittedly tricky start. A reasonable performance/result from this would see our last five league games suggesting we've got some of plan and blueprint to try and get survival, and maybe a points total to accompany it. A defeat, especially if it's combined with a s**te performance, and it's 6 defeats from 7 in the league and it's not looking great.
Like Feedo, I'm cautiously optimistic for some reason. Would like to see Perry and O'Reilly start, although not expecting either, and more proactive use of the subs.
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Post by Rusholme Ruffian on Sept 17, 2024 15:58:25 GMT 1
Well into September now. Squad isn't going to change for next few months so there needs to be more progress in what this team identity is. Only scored in 2 out of 6 games so far. Some positive signs but needs to get more from this squad and this is an excellent opportunity for that with some tough games coming up.
Hard to tell team as squad is of a fairly decent size and Hurst have had some chopping and changing.
Presume back 5 will stay the same. Winchester and Ojo I reckon will stay. Front 4 though is hard to predict. My guess would be Shipley and Bloxham in for Gilliead and Sagoe Jnr. O'Reilly needs to play for me if fit. And I'd like Perry back in. But we shall see as don't think either will
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Post by Rusholme Ruffian on Sept 17, 2024 16:12:28 GMT 1
They have a very quick and in form striker in Gregory so we need the Feeney combo in the centre of our defence rather than the very slow defensive partnership we started the season with. A goal for the hard working Lloyd and a clean sheet will do nicely. I think “quick” is a bit generous. He’s a 36 year old target man. Even Pierre and Nsiala should be able to deal with his pace. Old school striker with good movement and can hold a ball up. But yeah don't think he will be chasing many balls in behind. Will keep the defenders busy though, especially as they operate as a genuine front 2
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Post by chameleon on Sept 17, 2024 18:40:12 GMT 1
I’ve got a feeling we’re going to put on a scintillating attacking display and win 4-1. Maybe the sun affected me today.
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Post by Pilch on Sept 17, 2024 18:57:17 GMT 1
Well here we go taking on the second promoted club from last seasons league 2. Interestingly or worryingly all 3 appear in the top 8 which is an indication just how strong League 2 is 😩 Many relegated clubs queuing up to bounce straight back after relegation out of the league. Another club that’s bounced back after a few years in no league with increased crowds and optimism averaging 7500 last season and surprisingly already sold out for our game! We last played them in the FA Cup in 2019 with a 2-0 home win and before that did the double in 2014/5. Another away game that will see good numbers travel with hope that our team will gel and give us something to relieve the depression. Head says best we can hope is it will kick on our season with a 1-1 draw but heart says 1-2🤞 along the same lines take a look at league 2 to see how weak league 1 is, scary
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Post by belfastshrew on Sept 19, 2024 10:18:35 GMT 1
Dreading the next 5 matches...until we play Crawley I don't think we'll pick up a single point.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Sept 19, 2024 11:32:02 GMT 1
Dreading the next 5 matches...until we play Crawley I don't think we'll pick up a single point. I'm dreading them too, but we were better against Charlton. Unfortunately we have the same issue as last season,were are the goals coming from.
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Post by blamber on Sept 19, 2024 13:27:13 GMT 1
Dreading the next 5 matches...until we play Crawley I don't think we'll pick up a single point. Mansfield have a few injuries so this should be a game that we may well be able to get something from. A lot depends on whether Hurst gets the balance of his starting XI right. For me, that he needs to include TOR if we are to create chances. A win or even a draw would give us that bit of confidence going into the Rotherham game. I'm going for 1-1.
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Post by hectord0g137 on Sept 19, 2024 14:06:53 GMT 1
I must confess my scotch intake is increasing post result show....it does ease the pain of disappointment. At this rate I may make a claim on the club for liver damage
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Post by zenfootball2 on Sept 19, 2024 15:21:37 GMT 1
I must confess my scotch intake is increasing post result show....it does ease the pain of disappointment. At this rate I may make a claim on the club for liver damage I would think there will be a long list, that an increased demand for blood pressure medication.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Sept 19, 2024 15:23:47 GMT 1
Dreading the next 5 matches...until we play Crawley I don't think we'll pick up a single point. Mansfield have a few injuries so this should be a game that we may well be able to get something from. A lot depends on whether Hurst gets the balance of his starting XI right. For me, that he needs to include TOR if we are to create chances. A win or even a draw would give us that bit of confidence going into the Rotherham game. I'm going for 1-1. We need all the help we can get. I actually feel we have a chance for a draw as long as town score first.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Sept 19, 2024 17:24:19 GMT 1
I see Hurst has said in the star the other day,he won't tolerate players sulking! I think this is an error of judgment and divisive.
I would prefer he do it one to one and not air the dirty laundry in public
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2024 18:06:09 GMT 1
I see Hurst has said in the star the other day,he won't tolerate players sulking! I think this is an error of judgment and divisive. I would prefer he do it one to one and not air the dirty laundry in public Yes, do it behind closed doors not in public.
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Post by harboroughshrew on Sept 19, 2024 18:36:15 GMT 1
I see Hurst has said in the star the other day,he won't tolerate players sulking! I think this is an error of judgment and divisive. I would prefer he do it one to one and not air the dirty laundry in public I agree. Given our poor start to the season you would not expect the mood in the squad to be great but I dont really see the players pulling together as a unit on the pitch at the moment. With our small squad we will need every single player to contribute at some point and a manager generally does not get the best out of his players by criticising them in public.
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Post by gtismygod on Sept 19, 2024 19:56:27 GMT 1
I’d be interested in reading the article about sulking if somebody could post it up here? It’s behind the bizarre paywall sadly. Not sure who the Shropshire Star think they are.
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Post by pughywasfree on Sept 19, 2024 20:09:55 GMT 1
Never trust the Star. They have a long history of twisting comments without any context and putting a sensationalised headline for clickbait.
It will most probably be a generalised comment to a leading question levelled out with some positivity. Most like as part of his pre-match interview.
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Post by chameleon on Sept 19, 2024 20:23:22 GMT 1
I admire his honesty. It would drive me nuts if anyone was sulking. When he talks about the match afterwards at least I know he’s on the right track trying to fix things. ie getting players forward and closer to Lloyd.
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Post by Pilch on Sept 19, 2024 20:50:20 GMT 1
sounds like the naughty boy step is being used again heres my contenders
so Nsiala dropped, did he speak out ? I doubt it, he was due for the drop anyway Perry seemingly won a place and didnt even get a run out Orielly got a ,I didnt think he was good enough type comment
there's trouble at mill for sure
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Post by dibblydobbly on Sept 19, 2024 20:57:49 GMT 1
sounds like the naughty boy step is being used again heres my contenders so Nsiala dropped, did he speak out ? I doubt it, he was due for the drop anyway Perry seemingly won a place and didnt even get a run out Orielly got a ,I didnt think he was good enough type comment there's trouble at mill for sure Oh dear, and after a long week at work I was hoping for a trip to sunny Mansfield, decent singing, bit of grub, and a good positive game. Am I asking for too much?
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Post by Pilch on Sept 19, 2024 21:14:09 GMT 1
sounds like the naughty boy step is being used again heres my contenders so Nsiala dropped, did he speak out ? I doubt it, he was due for the drop anyway Perry seemingly won a place and didnt even get a run out Orielly got a ,I didnt think he was good enough type comment there's trouble at mill for sure Oh dear, and after a long week at work I was hoping for a trip to sunny Mansfield, decent singing, bit of grub, and a good positive game. Am I asking for too much? no, its going to be a fantastic day with a 2-0 town win
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2024 9:14:48 GMT 1
I always say that for comments like that from a manager, the reaction from fans will be different depending on how the team is doing. If we are doing well then it's strong management, no player is bigger than the team. If we are struggling then it's a sign that players are unhappy and the manager is losing the dressing room
Unless the full question and answer is stated in the Star (I can't tell behind a paywall), we don't know the context. It could have been the Star asking something like "you've got players coming back injury and may have to leave some out of the squad, how will you manage that?" and Hurst replies with "it's a nice problem to have and if players are left out, I don't want any sulking". It's a bit different from a headline of "Paul Hurst issues warning to 'sulking' Shrewsbury stars"
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