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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2024 17:03:50 GMT 1
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Post by staffordshrew on Sept 14, 2024 17:08:39 GMT 1
The current longest serving member of L1 won't be going down without a bit more fight than this!
The Great Escape starts here....
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Post by armchairfan on Sept 14, 2024 17:09:08 GMT 1
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Post by northwestman on Sept 14, 2024 17:12:21 GMT 1
At least Cambridge seem worse than us.
Bad results at Reading and Rotherham though.
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Post by chameleon on Sept 14, 2024 17:14:56 GMT 1
We matched Charlton, had a couple of chances but couldn’t put them away. Gave away another sloppy goal. Can’t be to despondent. We’ve had a tough start to the campaign, no doubt about it. We’ve just got to keep going and give everything every game.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2024 17:19:10 GMT 1
Have to stick together this season. Feel for Perry and OReilly though and concerned that Marquis doesn't start.
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Post by belfastshrew on Sept 14, 2024 17:26:05 GMT 1
That was the most boring 2nd half ever...near fell asleep...
Lots of huff and puff but little else today. The signs don't look good. Thought our subs came too late. Marquis did zero in that short time he got. We are very wasteful of set pieces still...
Savin - 6
Hoole - 5.5
M. Feeney - 6.5
J. Feeney - 7
Benning - 6
Sageo - 6
Ojo - 6
Winchester - 6
Gilliead - 6
Castledine - 7.5
Lloyd - 6
Bloxham - 6
Shipley - 5.5
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Post by kl8-2 on Sept 14, 2024 17:27:27 GMT 1
We matched Charlton, had a couple of chances but couldn’t put them away. Gave away another sloppy goal. Can’t be to despondent. We’ve had a tough start to the campaign, no doubt about it. We’ve just got to keep going and give everything every game. Yes, we need to dust ourselves down, work hard in training and be ready to go again next week. |
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Post by darkshrew on Sept 14, 2024 17:34:56 GMT 1
We had enough chances to get something there. Very disappointed.
Savin 5 - didn't see the goal well and so probably unfair, but it looked like he could have come for it; none of the quick throw outs but there was some of the suicidal passing at the back - thank the Lord it was Josh Feeney and not Nsiala
Hoole 6 played ok, some neat interplay going forward and some reasonable positioning defending; could see even he is frustrated by the lack of options from throw ins
Feeney M 6 some important challenges, glad to be back on the right side of the back two I imagine
Feeney J 6 not a bad start at all; much happier with the Feeneys as the back two, he will get better and be a real force (I hope)
Benning 6 picked up from previous performances; he got angry with Sagoe a few times which looked a bit OTT and wasted a couple of corners
Ojo 6 pretty solid game, a couple of mistakes early on, but otherwise looked solid and came into it more later in the game
Winchester 6 let down a bit by that shameful dive in the second half but generally ran around well; doesn't look to have the speed of interplay as the others and I wonder if he isn't down the pecking order a bit
Gillead 6 did well tracking back but a bit anonymous going forward, particularly in the first half
Castledine 7 if only he could finish with his head, some really neat touches as usual
Sagoe 7 he looks so dangerous when he gets the ball and runs at players, he takes a bit of time to get into the game, but he has to be a starter
Lloyd 7 MoM for me (after the chap who took the second dizzy penalty); ran all game and got us possession when all was lost, really impressed by him
Bloxham 6 a couple of runs and opportunities but wasn't clicking for him in the limited time he had; some absolute belting finishes in pre-match warm up
Shipley 5 no real time to do anything
Marquis 5 no real time to do anything which is a shame because I thought him and Lloyd would be a good pairing
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Post by markglasgow on Sept 14, 2024 17:38:15 GMT 1
Played well at times but the lack of a threat up top means we are really going to struggle this season. Ojo had a good game and defence looked better Under PH we are now logged a desperately poor 4 clean sheets in the 33 matches he's presided over. If we think we have issues at the top end then these problems are well and truly eclipsed by our defensive woes. If we lose a goal, which as almost guaranteed, then getting back into the match is frankly an impossibility. Another goal conceded from a set piece which is alarmingly common under the current regime. As it stands we are resigned to our fate. The bookies now have us clear favorites for relegation at 4/11. Change is required now to give us any chance of actually being in a relegation battle. Otherwise, we will be cut adrift before Xmas. Ho Ho Ho..... |
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Post by Pilch on Sept 14, 2024 17:41:05 GMT 1
Disappointing 2nd half after such a decent first half , their plan b worked right from the off , they also cancelled out Benning and we didn't have a plan b and yet hoole spent most of the half free and calling for the ball , subs should have been earlier , orielly a
Mystery as to why not involved , seems like we got our heads down after their goal with no one to motivate them , that's the manager and coaches job and we have a bench full of them , 3 points for the taking today and we took none , oh well off to Mansfield we go
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2024 17:42:32 GMT 1
Question : Why can't Lloyd and Marquis play in the same XI ?
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Post by pughywasfree on Sept 14, 2024 17:45:42 GMT 1
Daylight robbery.
As a town fan all I ask is the team shows fight and effort. I can accept not having as much quality. Today we got exactly that. We had 5/6 great chances to score but could not get our finishes on target. We are lacking someone who can get on the end of crosses and get it on target because I lost could of how many quality balls were pumped into their box.
I understand why Hurst chose to put Gillied on the wing. He is experienced and is better defensively but I don't think we needed to be that cautious. We are a good team. It's another game against a team expected to be around the play offs that we have been more than competitive in. Strange Subs and made far too late in the game.
I really like Lloyd and he does a great job at running the line but its all in vain when he is incapable of being a goal threat. Marquis starts for me.
2 great shouts for a penalty first half that I had a great view of. The 2nd on Sagoe in particular was a stone wall penalty and the ref bottled it. It's a different game if we get that pen.
We have finally found out defence, Feeney and Feeney complimented each other well. Hoole looked a look more comfortable having Feeney beside him covering. J.Feeney did well in particular.
That Charlton team is now 2nd in the division. We dominated the game and I can not recall Savin having anything to do after a 10 minute flurry at the start of the game.
Play that well for the rest of the season and we will be well clear of the bottom 4.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2024 17:49:03 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2024 17:49:55 GMT 1
Feels like we're finding our feet. I'm hoping that with the two Feeny lads we won't be needing two CDM's for much longer. Let's get bodies up the pitch.
It's going to be a long season, with every point so valuable but that's the way it's got to be.
Hurst in. Can't afford to pay him off anyhow.
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Post by lancsman on Sept 14, 2024 17:50:29 GMT 1
Well ,the usual we Iwillget the knives out brigadebr]The Feebey Feebey combination were solid and we shut them down so that they produced nothing in the first half. We had chances and we should have had a penalty when Sagoe was buddled in the box.
Their goal was a hopeful header that if I’m being picky Savin should have come for and at least punched.
Our set up was good and it’s a real shame no one got onto Bennings free kicks.
I agree that we have to dust ourselves down and keep playing like that. Charlton are up the league for a reason, they are no mugs.
Young was brilliant so to was Castledene. The ball ran for them end of.
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Post by staffordshrew on Sept 14, 2024 17:50:35 GMT 1
What is the point of late substitutions? Hurst is an experienced manager, we were a goal down, try something different with fresh legs?
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Post by shrewswolf on Sept 14, 2024 17:52:35 GMT 1
The only criticism I’d have about the first half is not creating proper chances with our control. We were much the better team.
Unfortunately another terribly soft goal killed us early in the second half and somehow Charlton have gone home winners, I don’t think did enough to warrant it but looking only at the second half I’m not sure they were ever truly troubled by our respond to being behind.
It’s a real shame something has gone on between Hurst and O’Reilly because he’s seriously talented and it seems a waste to have him on the bench while we bring on Marquis who is way past his best. Way past.
We keep saying it’s a hard start to the season, and it is, but you could argue it’s true of the next two as well. They can’t ALL be great teams, but they’re all going to have too much quality for us sadly.
The long old season continues but at least half of today was much better.
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Post by shrewswolf on Sept 14, 2024 17:53:38 GMT 1
Daylight robbery. As a town fan all I ask is the team shows fight and effort. I can accept not having as much quality. Today we got exactly that. We had 5/6 great chances to score but could not get our finishes on target. We are lacking someone who can get on the end of crosses and get it on target because I lost could of how many quality balls were pumped into their box. I understand why Hurst chose to put Gillied on the wing. He is experienced and is better defensively but I don't think we needed to be that cautious. We are a good team. It's another game against a team expected to be around the play offs that we have been more than competitive in. Strange Subs and made far too late in the game. I really like Lloyd and he does a great job at running the line but its all in vain when he is incapable of being a goal threat. Marquis starts for me. 2 great shouts for a penalty first half that I had a great view of. The 2nd on Sagoe in particular was a stone wall penalty and the ref bottled it. It's a different game if we get that pen. We have finally found out defence, Feeney and Feeney complimented each other well. Hoole looked a look more comfortable having Feeney beside him covering. J.Feeney did well in particular. That Charlton team is now 2nd in the division. We dominated the game and I can not recall Savin having anything to do after a 10 minute flurry at the start of the game. Play that well for the rest of the season and we will be well clear of the bottom 4. Marquis started the season and did absolutely **** all compared to Lloyd. How are you watching Lloyd’s performances and wanting to replace him with that guy? |
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Post by pughywasfree on Sept 14, 2024 17:54:54 GMT 1
We had enough chances to get something there. Very disappointed. Savin 5 - didn't see the goal well and so probably unfair, but it looked like he could have come for it; none of the quick throw outs but there was some of the suicidal passing at the back - thank the Lord it was Josh Feeney and not Nsiala Hoole 6 played ok, some neat interplay going forward and some reasonable positioning defending; could see even he is frustrated by the lack of options from throw ins Feeney M 6 some important challenges, glad to be back on the right side of the back two I imagine Feeney J 6 not a bad start at all; much happier with the Feeneys as the back two, he will get better and be a real force (I hope) Benning 6 picked up from previous performances; he got angry with Sagoe a few times which looked a bit OTT and wasted a couple of corners Ojo 6 pretty solid game, a couple of mistakes early on, but otherwise looked solid and came into it more later in the game Winchester 6 let down a bit by that shameful dive in the second half but generally ran around well; doesn't look to have the speed of interplay as the others and I wonder if he isn't down the pecking order a bit Gillead 6 did well tracking back but a bit anonymous going forward, particularly in the first half Castledine 7 if only he could finish with his head, some really neat touches as usual Sagoe 7 he looks so dangerous when he gets the ball and runs at players, he takes a bit of time to get into the game, but he has to be a starter Lloyd 7 MoM for me (after the chap who took the second dizzy penalty); ran all game and got us possession when all was lost, really impressed by him Bloxham 6 a couple of runs and opportunities but wasn't clicking for him in the limited time he had; some absolute belting finishes in pre-match warm up Shipley 5 no real time to do anything Marquis 5 no real time to do anything which is a shame because I thought him and Lloyd would be a good pairing Savin should not be getting the intial cross, it was a deep cross outside the 6 yard box but he should have been a lot stronger as it dropped in the middle of the goalline. I think you have been generous to Sagoe, showed glimpses of what he is capable of but struggled to get into the game for large periods and was on the pitch for 15 minutes longer than he should have been. Hoole and Benning had much better games that a 6, both bombing forward on the overlap and was central to our good play in the first half. (I agree about the wasted set pieces though) |
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Post by pughywasfree on Sept 14, 2024 17:57:43 GMT 1
He should be keeping thoughts like that to himself. The lad was pivotal in our only positive result in 6 games. He see's him in training and its his choice who he plays etc but that comment (of course its only a snippet without context) will not do the lads confidence any good. |
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Post by Pilch on Sept 14, 2024 17:59:29 GMT 1
We had enough chances to get something there. Very disappointed. Savin 5 - didn't see the goal well and so probably unfair, but it looked like he could have come for it; none of the quick throw outs but there was some of the suicidal passing at the back - thank the Lord it was Josh Feeney and not Nsiala Hoole 6 played ok, some neat interplay going forward and some reasonable positioning defending; could see even he is frustrated by the lack of options from throw ins Feeney M 6 some important challenges, glad to be back on the right side of the back two I imagine Feeney J 6 not a bad start at all; much happier with the Feeneys as the back two, he will get better and be a real force (I hope) Benning 6 picked up from previous performances; he got angry with Sagoe a few times which looked a bit OTT and wasted a couple of corners Ojo 6 pretty solid game, a couple of mistakes early on, but otherwise looked solid and came into it more later in the game Winchester 6 let down a bit by that shameful dive in the second half but generally ran around well; doesn't look to have the speed of interplay as the others and I wonder if he isn't down the pecking order a bit Gillead 6 did well tracking back but a bit anonymous going forward, particularly in the first half Castledine 7 if only he could finish with his head, some really neat touches as usual Sagoe 7 he looks so dangerous when he gets the ball and runs at players, he takes a bit of time to get into the game, but he has to be a starter Lloyd 7 MoM for me (after the chap who took the second dizzy penalty); ran all game and got us possession when all was lost, really impressed by him Bloxham 6 a couple of runs and opportunities but wasn't clicking for him in the limited time he had; some absolute belting finishes in pre-match warm up Shipley 5 no real time to do anything Marquis 5 no real time to do anything which is a shame because I thought him and Lloyd would be a good pairing I think you've been a bit harsh on a few , Benning had a pretty good game 8 , Josh feeney worth a 7 , castledine I'd say slightly better than sagoe , lloyd needs a man with him , tom looked lively when he came on but I hope we keep utilising him as a sub and not a starter |
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Post by pughywasfree on Sept 14, 2024 18:00:21 GMT 1
Daylight robbery. As a town fan all I ask is the team shows fight and effort. I can accept not having as much quality. Today we got exactly that. We had 5/6 great chances to score but could not get our finishes on target. We are lacking someone who can get on the end of crosses and get it on target because I lost could of how many quality balls were pumped into their box. I understand why Hurst chose to put Gillied on the wing. He is experienced and is better defensively but I don't think we needed to be that cautious. We are a good team. It's another game against a team expected to be around the play offs that we have been more than competitive in. Strange Subs and made far too late in the game. I really like Lloyd and he does a great job at running the line but its all in vain when he is incapable of being a goal threat. Marquis starts for me. 2 great shouts for a penalty first half that I had a great view of. The 2nd on Sagoe in particular was a stone wall penalty and the ref bottled it. It's a different game if we get that pen. We have finally found out defence, Feeney and Feeney complimented each other well. Hoole looked a look more comfortable having Feeney beside him covering. J.Feeney did well in particular. That Charlton team is now 2nd in the division. We dominated the game and I can not recall Savin having anything to do after a 10 minute flurry at the start of the game. Play that well for the rest of the season and we will be well clear of the bottom 4. Marquis started the season and did absolutely **** all compared to Lloyd. How are you watching Lloyd’s performances and wanting to replace him with that guy? Because I have seen Lloyd waste too many great chances already. He could play till the end of the season and wont get near double figures. I like him a lot but he has no strikers instinct and his finishing is woeful. I'd like someone better than them both but for me Marquis starts. |
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Post by zenfootball2 on Sept 14, 2024 18:02:42 GMT 1
That was a much.
more encouraging performance, town were the best team in the first half but if you don't score you are going to be punished.
Sageo, castledine and Lloyd caused Charlton some headaches.
The two feeneys did a good job, thought Savin dithered a lot today, he knew he was going to be playing with the sun in his eyes but did not come on with a cap!! Disappointing to concede such a sift goal, it took the wind out of towns sails, they took too long to get back in the game.
i thought the ref overall had a good game, I thought we might have had a penalty and some more of the Charlton players should have been booked.
I'm not convinced by ojo I would prefer to see Perry but after been dropped for two games, Hurst seems to favour ojo.
Feeney and I think it was Lloyd for ed two good saves,
If we are to get anything out of games we need to play like the first half for 90 minutes, put our chances away and not get bullied by physical teams.
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Post by ssshrew on Sept 14, 2024 18:07:54 GMT 1
We surely can’t afford for the coach to have his favourites and falling out. If he’s in any way professional he will put the team first and his feelings second. We need points and we need them sooner rather than later.
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Post by chameleon on Sept 14, 2024 18:11:17 GMT 1
He should be keeping thoughts like that to himself. The lad was pivotal in our only positive result in 6 games. He see's him in training and its his choice who he plays etc but that comment (of course its only a snippet without context) will not do the lads confidence any good. Tommi obviously needs to start impressing the management in training. Hopefully he does because he’s got talent. |
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Post by vladimir on Sept 14, 2024 18:15:30 GMT 1
This is a shocker for me. Can see Hurst losing the dressing room at this rate. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2024 18:24:16 GMT 1
Ollies not doing Hurst any favours with that quote.
Hursts answer is regarding impact from the bench and he sees Bloxham as better and the 2 goals shows it in Hursts eyes. Developing our own in front of loan players?
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Post by hectord0g137 on Sept 14, 2024 18:24:29 GMT 1
Ahhhh bless mustn't upset the players
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Post by zenfootball2 on Sept 14, 2024 18:24:43 GMT 1
Marquis started the season and did absolutely **** all compared to Lloyd. How are you watching Lloyd’s performances and wanting to replace him with that guy? Because I have seen Lloyd waste too many great chances already. He could play till the end of the season and wont get near double figures. I like him a lot but he has no strikers instinct and his finishing is woeful. I'd like someone better than them both but for me Marquis starts. It's a pity we don't have a system were Lloyd and marquis could pkay Lloyd does an incredible job against much bigger players. . I thought it was Lloyd who forced a good save by there keeper after Feeney forced a good save in the second half ? |
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