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Post by pughywasfree on Aug 27, 2024 21:47:58 GMT 1
Deluded. Nsiala is shocking. That was Pierre's first mistake of the night. Nsiala has been poor in every game so far. In all honesty they're both poor, and Pierre has been shocking tonight, but Nsiala has been the most consistently poor in my opinion so far this season. Neither are league one standard and neither, frankly, are even league two standard. With these two there's absolutely no way we'll survive, it's inconceivable that we'll score enough goals to balance out the ones we concede through their mistakes. Both have been honest pros in the past so I'm loathed to be too critical but the simple fact is neither are good enough and both together is utter calamity. On a positive Sagoe Junior looks a very lively player. I agree they are both nowhere near league 1 level. The fact we have nothing left in the kitty to even get a loan defender in is unacceptable. We now have Winchester, Biggins, Shipley, Rossiter and Perry fighting for the 2 midfield spots (can't see Shipley starting at CAM ahead of Castledine) yet we have no quality at CB. That is on Hurst. |
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Post by northwestman on Aug 27, 2024 21:48:55 GMT 1
I've just watched the video of Wrexham demolishing Reading.
Anyone looking forward to the Wrexham game? Mullin is back too - came on as sub on Sat.
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Post by footballfan on Aug 27, 2024 21:50:54 GMT 1
That wasn't great. We had good play for some of it but the second goal we let in was shocking
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Post by pughywasfree on Aug 27, 2024 21:51:26 GMT 1
Positives Great to see Nurse back on the pitch Sagoe Jr with another impressive display Perry continued to prove the doubters wrong. Castledine looks every bit of the player we were hoping. Actually had options from the bench Negatives I'll leave to the ones having a meltdown.
Is it surprising theres a meltdown? yet again out of their depth to a team in the same division
Surprising? No Pointless? Yes. We are a s**t league 1 team trying to beat the odds. Games like tonight are going to happen more often than not. Luckily our league games have been a bit more even. I thought Bolton were one of the best teams we have seen down here for a long time. How much of that is down to us its hard to say but their passing was quick, one touch and on point. They also have 2 monster CB's. That Santos has been ridiculously good every time we have played Bolton, nothing gets past him. |
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Post by Stowmarket Shrew on Aug 27, 2024 21:52:08 GMT 1
In all honesty they're both poor, and Pierre has been shocking tonight, but Nsiala has been the most consistently poor in my opinion so far this season. Neither are league one standard and neither, frankly, are even league two standard. With these two there's absolutely no way we'll survive, it's inconceivable that we'll score enough goals to balance out the ones we concede through their mistakes. Both have been honest pros in the past so I'm loathed to be too critical but the simple fact is neither are good enough and both together is utter calamity. On a positive Sagoe Junior looks a very lively player. I agree they are both nowhere near league 1 level. The fact we have nothing left in the kitty to even get a loan defender in is unacceptable. We now have Winchester, Biggins, Shipley, Rossiter and Perry fighting for the 2 midfield spots (can see Shipley starting at CAM ahead of Castledine) yet we have no quality at CB. That is on Hurst. Yup, whatever the case with the budget and the limited choice he's got, you've got to seriously question his judgement over those two, when they're so obviously not up to standard. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2024 21:53:03 GMT 1
No wonder Pierre was pleased to sign over the summer, Benning too.
Can Tom Bloxham be transfer listed please, maybe that idiot at Forest Green would like him. He started blowing the sunshine up his proverbial.
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Post by sheltonsalopian on Aug 27, 2024 21:54:38 GMT 1
Savin
Hoole, Feeney, Feeney, Nurse
Winchester, Rossiter
O’Reilly, Castledine, Shipley
Marquis
That 11 will keep us up - but if we’re going to persist with either Pierre or Nsiala we are on the fast road to league 2.
Hoole could be improved on as well to be honest, at least Savin has won me over.
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Post by Valerioch on Aug 27, 2024 21:56:40 GMT 1
Can’t be arsed to dissect that
Truly abysmal. Lucky to not be 0-3 down at Half time, repeated incredible last minute defending off the line.
Then gift them 2 of the worst goals you’ll ever see
Some of those players are so far out of their depth it’s painful to watch
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Post by Scarecrow on Aug 27, 2024 21:57:15 GMT 1
I think people need to stop excusing dog s*** performances by saying there are positive moments. I'll accept last week against Huddersfield away as we were hardly going to get anything from the game but didn't get spanked.
So far we've played 6 games so far, won 1 (even in that game we were 2-0 down at halftime), lost 5, scored only once in the league (which was a screamer from long range) and conceded 13 goals (over 2 a game on average!)
Scrapping around looking for excuses and the two moments in a game where a half decent ball is played into a box or we string four positive passes together shows how dog s*** we've been all year and also how some of us are willing to accept performances like tonight on the pitch. One or two flashes in a game is the bare minimum I'd expect in a game we are expected to lose. I'd also expect us to have a defence capable of looking like gaining a clean sheet instead of running at a snails pace, hoofing the ball and making mistake after mistake.
Hurst was right a few interviews back when he said we had tolerant and nice fans, other clubs would be toxic as anything right now.
Toto needs dropping. Pierre needs dropping. Bloxham needs dropping.
We aren't even in September and I want the season over already.
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Post by northwestman on Aug 27, 2024 21:57:26 GMT 1
No wonder Pierre was pleased to sign over the summer, Benning too. Can Tom Bloxham be transfer listed please, maybe that idiot at Forest Green would like him. He started blowing the sunshine up his proverbial. I don't rate Hoole either. Both Hoole and Benning can be beaten far too easily by the opposition's wide men. They fail to cut out crosses. |
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Post by vladimir on Aug 27, 2024 21:57:40 GMT 1
In all honesty they're both poor, and Pierre has been shocking tonight, but Nsiala has been the most consistently poor in my opinion so far this season. Neither are league one standard and neither, frankly, are even league two standard. With these two there's absolutely no way we'll survive, it's inconceivable that we'll score enough goals to balance out the ones we concede through their mistakes. Both have been honest pros in the past so I'm loathed to be too critical but the simple fact is neither are good enough and both together is utter calamity. On a positive Sagoe Junior looks a very lively player. I agree they are both nowhere near league 1 level. The fact we have nothing left in the kitty to even get a loan defender in is unacceptable. We now have Winchester, Biggins, Shipley, Rossiter and Perry fighting for the 2 midfield spots (can't see Shipley starting at CAM ahead of Castledine) yet we have no quality at CB. That is on Hurst. Hurst and Moore. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2024 21:59:35 GMT 1
Whilst we have some talented attacking players (mostly the loan ones not our own ones) we have no clear attacking game plan.
We also have the worst defence I’ve seen in a Shrewsbury team since the last time we were relegated from this league.
However, we can’t just shrug our shoulders and say they’re s**t, it’s on Hurst now, he has to get more out of this squad, it shouldn’t be a lost cause in August.
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Post by dachshund on Aug 27, 2024 21:59:49 GMT 1
Micky Moore has stolen a living at this football club
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Post by pughywasfree on Aug 27, 2024 22:00:26 GMT 1
I think people need to stop excusing dog s*** performances by saying there are positive moments. I'll accept last week against Huddersfield away as we were hardly going to get anything from the game but didn't get spanked. So far we've played 6 games so far, won 1 (even in that game we were 2-0 down at halftime), lost 5, scored only once in the league (which was a screamer from long range) and conceded 13 goals (over 2 a game on average!) Scrapping around looking for excuses and the two moments in a game where a half decent ball is played into a box or we string four positive passes together shows how dog s*** we've been all year and also how some of us are willing to accept performances like tonight on the pitch. Hurst was right a few interviews back when he said we had tolerant and nice fans, other clubs would be toxic as anything right now. What would being Toxic achieve? |
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Post by johnno on Aug 27, 2024 22:01:51 GMT 1
I think people need to stop excusing dog s*** performances by saying there are positive moments. I'll accept last week against Huddersfield away as we were hardly going to get anything from the game but didn't get spanked. So far we've played 6 games so far, won 1 (even in that game we were 2-0 down at halftime), lost 5, scored only once in the league (which was a screamer from long range) and conceded 13 goals (over 2 a game on average!) Scrapping around looking for excuses and the two moments in a game where a half decent ball is played into a box or we string four positive passes together shows how dog s*** we've been all year and also how some of us are willing to accept performances like tonight on the pitch. One or two flashes in a game is the bare minimum I'd expect in a game we are expected to lose. I'd also expect us to have a defence capable of looking like gaining a clean sheet instead of running at a snails pace, hoofing the ball and making mistake after mistake. Hurst was right a few interviews back when he said we had tolerant and nice fans, other clubs would be toxic as anything right now. Toto needs dropping. Pierre needs dropping. Bloxham needs dropping. We aren't even in September and I want the season over already. Exactly. The Shrewsbury way does seem to be do bugger all until its too late
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Post by ar**chairfan on Aug 27, 2024 22:03:49 GMT 1
From what I heard on the radio, "out of their depth" sounds a reasonable summation.
Whilst I respect Paul Hurst, I have my doubts as to whether even the Almighty - were he to actually exist - could get a winning performance out of this bunch of players , who fail collectively in the wake of individual errors.
The quality of players is largely, though not entirely, dictated by the state of the Club finances, and the issue of the allocation of blame has been done to death - we really have little option but to accept our fate, move on and re-set.
I hope I'm wrong, and that come next May, this opinion will be thrown back in my face with derision and disdain , though not, I trust, with glee.
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Post by pughywasfree on Aug 27, 2024 22:07:00 GMT 1
Micky Moore has stolen a living at this football club I doubt Moore had much say in anything this season. Hurst seemed firmly in charge of recruitment. He would just go running to RW if Moore didn't do as he was told. Recruitment hasn't actually been that bad (Nsiala aside). O'Rielly, Castledine, Sageo and Rossiter are all decent players. Most frustrating thing for me is Udoh would have really excelled in this team. Sraha would have probably played every game too! |
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Post by WATR on Aug 27, 2024 22:08:12 GMT 1
Embarrassing to watch. The team we have assembled would struggle in League Two.
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Post by Valerioch on Aug 27, 2024 22:10:41 GMT 1
Micky Moore has stolen a living at this football club I doubt Moore had much say in anything this season. Hurst seemed firmly in charge of recruitment. He would just go running to RW if Moore didn't do as he was told. Recruitment hasn't actually been that bad (Nsiala aside). O'Rielly, Castledine, Sageo and Rossiter are all decent players. Most frustrating thing for me is Udoh would have really excelled in this team. Sraha would have probably played every game too! Then what the **** is Moore employed for then!?!?!? Skint? He should be the first out of the door |
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Post by Valerioch on Aug 27, 2024 22:11:57 GMT 1
Embarrassing to watch. The team we have assembled would struggle in League Two. It feels wrong to “like” this post, but you’re spot on. The back 4 especially are an utter shambles and the worst in many a year |
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Post by pughywasfree on Aug 27, 2024 22:13:06 GMT 1
I doubt Moore had much say in anything this season. Hurst seemed firmly in charge of recruitment. He would just go running to RW if Moore didn't do as he was told. Recruitment hasn't actually been that bad (Nsiala aside). O'Rielly, Castledine, Sageo and Rossiter are all decent players. Most frustrating thing for me is Udoh would have really excelled in this team. Sraha would have probably played every game too! Then what the **** is Moore employed for then!?!?!? Skint? He should be the first out of the door No idea, it does seem like a waste of a wage. I bet his wages could cover 2 CBs! |
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Post by gtismygod on Aug 27, 2024 22:13:52 GMT 1
Man that back four is so so bad. Benning has regressed significantly, Hoole looks below par, and Pierre just isn’t good enough to be playing in League One. He looked like he was towing a caravan tonight.
We need to start playing a three in midfield, with Winchester or Rossiter anchoring in front of the two central defenders. So many times tonight they played through balls between our central midfielders and centre backs. It was so easy. We’re just going to get battered every week if we play a two with a CAM in front.
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Post by staffordshrew on Aug 27, 2024 22:14:08 GMT 1
I am just pleased we have a DofF. Seems to me that the signings almost certainly down to Hurst are the ones not really up to the job.
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Post by chameleon on Aug 27, 2024 22:15:17 GMT 1
Defence all over the place again. Let’s be honest, Bolton could have easily had 5 or 6. Don’t know what Hursty is going to do. Our defenders are just not good enough.
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Post by northwestman on Aug 27, 2024 22:15:25 GMT 1
Micky Moore has stolen a living at this football club I doubt Moore had much say in anything this season. Hurst seemed firmly in charge of recruitment. He would just go running to RW if Moore didn't do as he was told. Recruitment hasn't actually been that bad (Nsiala aside). O'Rielly, Castledine, Sageo and Rossiter are all decent players. Most frustrating thing for me is Udoh would have really excelled in this team. Sraha would have probably played every game too! But Pierre most certainly isn't, and I'm far from impressed by Hoole. And 3 of the 4 you've named are loans. Biggins, Lloyd and Marquis need to improve too. |
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Post by gtismygod on Aug 27, 2024 22:16:33 GMT 1
Just the 11 goals conceded in the last 4 home matches. Now 17 without a clean sheet. After almost 45 years of loyalty I 'paused' my support until PH is gone, so I'm looking on dispassionately. Only consolation I can muster is the obvious one. Can barely remember things being so desperate. ‘Pausing’ support for your club after 45 years of ‘loyalty’ because you don’t like a managerial appointment says more about you than it does anything else. You’re by far the most insufferable and irritating poster on here these days with your attention seeking “I told you so” PH posts. You need to take a good look at yourself. |
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Post by Pilch on Aug 27, 2024 22:16:55 GMT 1
poor tactics again, backing off when they are attacking is asking for trouble, there was times when we had 2 men jockeying their wide man, ffs not only does one of them have to tackle, he is free rolling on the tackle, perfect opportunity to go in hard and show them who the boss is, also time after time, their front runner is played onside by a poor line at the back, when you are as slow as we are we should work on the offside trap, the amount of times they skin us would be probably less than the amount of times they spring the offside trap, also too many players pass the ball and think thats their job done and relax, wake up guys, give and go and be ready for it again, look for it again, want it again
not such a 6 pointer on saturday but a wooden spoon decider, or maybe not, orient won away to a championship side tonight
oh well, I hope the manager can come up with XI willing to give it 100% on saturday, thats all
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Post by gtismygod on Aug 27, 2024 22:17:47 GMT 1
I doubt Moore had much say in anything this season. Hurst seemed firmly in charge of recruitment. He would just go running to RW if Moore didn't do as he was told. Recruitment hasn't actually been that bad (Nsiala aside). O'Rielly, Castledine, Sageo and Rossiter are all decent players. Most frustrating thing for me is Udoh would have really excelled in this team. Sraha would have probably played every game too! But Pierre most certainly isn't, and I'm far from impressed by Hoole. And 3 of the 4 you've named are loans. Biggins, Lloyd and Marquis need to improve too. Biggins has been dreadful so far. Needs a rocket up his arse. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2024 22:18:22 GMT 1
Being at the game not watching on tv, I actually thought first half especially that Pierre and Perry were basically a two man defence whilst all else was carnage around them, but then it turns out Pierre had a huge hand in both goals…
And as much as Pierre and Nsiala have copped a lot of deserved flak this season, Benning and Hoole have been every bit as woeful in my opinion. I pray George Nurse can work his way back into the team, but to only have one right back is negligent.
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Post by Pilch on Aug 27, 2024 22:21:17 GMT 1
Micky Moore has stolen a living at this football club I think you'll find Cauldwell & cotterill did that and are partly the reason for our current issues, buy hey lets pretend they didnt and blame someone else instead |
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