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Post by northwestman on Aug 15, 2024 16:05:32 GMT 1
Despite the win on Tuesday, it has to be admitted that our defence was far from good. That includes Savin.
So what do others think our line up should be for the next game?
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Post by chirkshrew on Aug 15, 2024 16:21:48 GMT 1
Feeney done well 2nd half,so hopefully him and josh Feeney(when fit) will be the main centre back pairings.benning and hoole look ok,as for Savin, I'm totally unconvinced by him ATM...I said after the derby game that there wasn't much between the 2 keepers,and would say that Young's passing out and kicking are better than savins.also toto needs to speed up,or is that his full pace now!  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2024 16:27:50 GMT 1
We don't know what the situation is with George Nurse and Josh Feeney at the moment as to when they will both ready for first team consideration.
We can just hope that the defence begins to gel the more time they spend together. The options to change are pretty limited at the moment.
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Post by belfastshrew on Aug 15, 2024 16:31:54 GMT 1
Much concerned! Savin is a howler-in-waiting. Pierre is statuesque. Hoole loves a dodgy late tackle. Feeney can't run. We surely can't rely on a 19yo Feeney Jr to solve our problems?
I say all this but...I think Pierre and Nsiala have been okay. Feeney is a good CB. Benning and Hoole have been good. Maybe Feeney Jr will be brilliant. Savin can only get better.
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Post by chirkshrew on Aug 15, 2024 16:34:42 GMT 1
It's up to savin to up his game.....simple as🤷🤷
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Post by Rusholme Ruffian on Aug 15, 2024 17:00:51 GMT 1
Savin did definitely worry me. Hope game time will help, but did wonder if he really doesn't cut the mustard whether a late loan deal might be on cards.
But he's been signed as first team keeper, so he will stay in the team for now.
Hoole and Benning are nailed on really.
Pierre to me hasn't been a league one defender in several years, even given the odd decent performance.
So right now has to be Nsiala and Feeney.
Hopefully Josh Feeney can come in when fit, and Nurse too, although any expectations on Nurse have to be pretty limited given his hugely limited game time over last couple of years
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2024 17:26:57 GMT 1
It could be Feeney and Feeney as a centre half pairing.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Aug 15, 2024 18:22:25 GMT 1
Nurse needs to be played in very gradually over several weeks once fit to be considered.
And I'm sure he will have his own doubts after the last couple of years.
Dont expect him to just pick up from where he left off, that's very unlikely to happen.
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Post by Worthingshrew on Aug 15, 2024 18:27:29 GMT 1
Pierre looks as if he needs to lose a stone in weight.
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Post by DiglisShrew on Aug 15, 2024 18:58:48 GMT 1
Nurse needs to be played in very gradually over several weeks once fit to be considered. And I'm sure he will have his own doubts after the last couple of years. Dont expect him to just pick up from where he left off, that's very unlikely to happen. The more I hear Hursts responses to questions about Nurse the more I begin to think that Hurst thinks he’s ready but it’s Nurse that’s holding back . Perhaps he retains a worry about a possible career ending injury if he comes back , in his mind , too soon ?! 🤔 |
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Post by Rusholme Ruffian on Aug 15, 2024 19:02:43 GMT 1
Pierre looks as if he needs to lose a stone in weight. When has he not? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2024 19:06:26 GMT 1
Pierre looks as if he needs to lose a stone in weight. When has he not? Perhaps a bit more than a stone |
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Post by northwestman on Aug 15, 2024 19:09:35 GMT 1
Nsiala has so far not looked the player he was when he was 1st with us.
But I have to give him preference over Pierre.
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Post by chirkshrew on Aug 15, 2024 19:11:33 GMT 1
Yep.... Pierre still needs to lose the weight.... he'll be a good addition then👍
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Post by northwestman on Aug 15, 2024 19:16:15 GMT 1
Perhaps Savin needs to put ON a stone.
At the moment he's not commanding his area and needs to have more of a presence in the box.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Aug 15, 2024 19:30:28 GMT 1
Nurse needs to be played in very gradually over several weeks once fit to be considered. And I'm sure he will have his own doubts after the last couple of years. Dont expect him to just pick up from where he left off, that's very unlikely to happen. The more I hear Hursts responses to questions about Nurse the more I begin to think that Hurst thinks he’s ready but it’s Nurse that’s holding back . Perhaps he retains a worry about a possible career ending injury if he comes back , in his mind , too soon ?! 🤔 And if that's the case then he is likely to get another injury by holding back. But it's not surprising he feels like it after the last 2 seasons. |
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Post by zenfootball2 on Aug 15, 2024 20:10:27 GMT 1
Perhaps Savin needs to put ON a stone. At the moment he's not commanding his area and needs to have more of a presence in the box. He has had a number of injuries and he only played ten games last season, neither of which will have helped his confidence. Also a number of people have expressed concerns about our center backs if that is the case that won't have helped and it takes time for players to get on each others wavelength. If the kepoer is a bit wobbly and the center backs are also a bit wobbly it could also lead to confidence issues The coach really needs to get the defence doing lots of practice and develop a good working understanding and build up their confidence, the goalkeepering coach has a role to play in this. |
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Post by zenfootball2 on Aug 15, 2024 20:12:23 GMT 1
Yep.... Pierre still needs to lose the weight.... he'll be a good addition then👍 It's the same every season |
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Post by chirkshrew on Aug 15, 2024 20:23:38 GMT 1
Well,if your not fit,don't bother running out onto the pitch....you'll embarrass yourself 🤷
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2024 20:51:30 GMT 1
Pierre does always look like he's blowing out of his proverbial after 5 minutes.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2024 21:06:50 GMT 1
Honestly I suspect Savin is the stronger of the two keepers, and whether it’s Feeney and Toto or Feeney and Pierre will not be a huge difference in quality, so Hurst just needs to decide on his preference and hope that as a unit they gel and improve.
Hoole will have to play right back for the foreseeable, and probably committing sacrilege here in saying that Benning defensively is very weak, he was getting skinned every 5 minutes on Tues. Also worth saying that I don’t think that they were getting much protection from the midfield.
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Post by MartinB on Aug 15, 2024 22:16:14 GMT 1
Nsiala has so far not looked the player he was when he was 1st with us. But I have to give him preference over Pierre. Missing Matt Sadler telling him where to go |
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Post by belfastshrew on Aug 15, 2024 22:17:43 GMT 1
Nsiala was very vocal against Oldham. Could hear him organising
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Post by ProudSalopian on Aug 16, 2024 6:00:22 GMT 1
Nsiala has so far not looked the player he was when he was 1st with us. . Its been 6 years since he left us and he is now 32 years of age so that shouldn't be too much of a surprise. With regard to him and Pierre, my view is lots of fans were happy to see them sign because of a misty eyed view of them based on when they were playing at their peak for us. However times change and they are not those same players, hopefully they can get back to those levels but it's a huge ask. Playing one of the two might just about be ok, playing both together is asking for trouble. |
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Post by secretshrew on Aug 16, 2024 6:53:56 GMT 1
I didn’t go on Tuesday but it seems that B&A posters are a much better judge of a GK than Man United scouts 😏
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Post by zenfootball2 on Aug 16, 2024 7:54:21 GMT 1
Do we have anyone in the squad capable of playing as a sweeper to give the vulnerable center backs some extra support.
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Post by Pilch on Aug 16, 2024 7:58:52 GMT 1
I didn’t go on Tuesday but it seems that B&A posters are a much better judge of a GK than Man United scouts 😏 ok we give up , let us know what you're on about 😝 |
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Post by MartinB on Aug 16, 2024 8:00:50 GMT 1
Do we have anyone in the squad capable of playing as a sweeper to give the vulnerable center backs some extra support. showing your age, talking about sweepers🤣🤣 The other thing that Toto had last time as well as Matt Sadler was Ben Godfrey sitting in front of him, so teams had to get passed him first |
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Post by dannylad01 on Aug 16, 2024 8:53:14 GMT 1
Toto needs an organiser alongside him. As has been said previously, Sadler was very important to how he played last time. Particularly first half on Tuesday, McGoldrick just played off Toto and his movement kept pulling him out of position. At the moment I'm not sure who the organiser at the back is going to be.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2024 11:27:24 GMT 1
For a young guy Feeney is pretty mature, it could be him.
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