Our defence.

[trueblue89]

Anyone else feel that the whole squad lacks pace and not just the defence? Notts Co and P'boro at home has seen us overrun in the centre of the pitch? Not debating that Rossiter, Biggins & co arent good but teams are able to move the ball round and make runs through our midfield. Thats then not aided with the lack of mobility from Pierre and aging of Toto who isnt as quick as we remember.

[ProudSalopian]

Arguably it's a non story but we may well see someone else coming in, I guess it will depend on how quickly the Feeney's are back

www.shropshirestar.com/sport/football/shrewsbury-town-fc/2024/08/20/shrewsbury-town-assess-potential-defensive-deal-before-window-ends/

[camdenshrew]

I think a lot of us were hoping the last loan place would be filled by a striker but needs must. We've got to be far more difficult to beat and Nsiala and Pierre together are clearly not going to hack it.

[sheltonsalopian]

We're going down quickly if we continue with Pierre and Nsiala, I understand not wanting another CB ideally as you have two injured ones but this Pierre, Nsiala experiment needs to end.

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Aug 20, 2024 10:34:46 GMT 1 camdenshrew said:

I think a lot of us were hoping the last loan place would be filled by a striker but needs must. We've got to be far more difficult to beat and Nsiala and Pierre together are clearly not going to hack it.

No chance we’ll bring in another striker with Marquis, Kayode and Lloyd all in the building especially as we generally only play one of them.

Personally I think we’re woefully short at centre half, right back, and centre mid cover for Winchester and Rossiter. However we use that last loan there’s going to be huge holes in the squad in key areas.

[camdenshrew]

Yes, there are holes all over the squad, particularly as we have too many players with poor injury records.

[Deleted]

Was thinking the last loan spot could be a right side full back, winger - as who's covering Hoole for the whole season?

The way its being talked about defensive cover, I wonder if its going to be a permeant defensive addtion.

[Exkeeper]

Aug 16, 2024 6:53:56 GMT 1 secretshrew said:

I didn’t go on Tuesday but it seems that B&A posters are a much better judge of a GK than Man United scouts 😏

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I was told by a former top level player who was our coach that you are only as good as your last game. He then qualified that by saying if you have a run of decent performances, then when the inevitable dip comes along, you have earned some leeway.
Following the logic in this, you need a good start and to be able to bank some credit. The problem with having a bad start is that one of a keeper’s biggest enemies - confidence takes a hammering and it then becomes a long way back.
I was pleased with Toby Savin’s display on Saturday and now he needs to build on that.

[trueblue89]

Aug 20, 2024 13:52:08 GMT 1 Exkeeper said:

Aug 16, 2024 6:53:56 GMT 1 secretshrew said:

I didn’t go on Tuesday but it seems that B&A posters are a much better judge of a GK than Man United scouts 😏

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I was told by a former top level player who was our coach that you are only as good as your last game. He then qualified that by saying if you have a run of decent performances, then when the inevitable dip comes along, you have earned some leeway.
Following the logic in this, you need a good start and to be able to bank some credit. The problem with having a bad start is that one of a keeper’s biggest enemies - confidence takes a hammering and it then becomes a long way back.
I was pleased with Toby Savin’s display on Saturday and now he needs to build on that.

It sounds crazy to say that your pleased with a goalkeepers display when hes conceded 4 but i agree. Not a lot the lad could do with any other the goals also when your defence goes into Kamakaze mode 10 mins to the end

[Rusholme Ruffian]

As I've said on other threads there doesn't need to be a 'last loan spot', it's just that you can only name 5 in a matchday squad. If Feeney especially is out longer term there is absolutely no harm in having 6 loan players. They did it last season when Thorpe got injured, and even then dont think they ever used all 5 spots in a squad

[zenfootball2]

Aug 20, 2024 13:56:19 GMT 1 trueblue89 said:

Aug 20, 2024 13:52:08 GMT 1 Exkeeper said:

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I was told by a former top level player who was our coach that you are only as good as your last game. He then qualified that by saying if you have a run of decent performances, then when the inevitable dip comes along, you have earned some leeway.
Following the logic in this, you need a good start and to be able to bank some credit. The problem with having a bad start is that one of a keeper’s biggest enemies - confidence takes a hammering and it then becomes a long way back.
I was pleased with Toby Savin’s display on Saturday and now he needs to build on that.

It sounds crazy to say that your pleased with a goalkeepers display when hes conceded 4 but i agree. Not a lot the lad could do with any other the goals also when your defence goes into Kamakaze mode 10 mins to the end

I also thought he did very well with little protection from his defense.

[pughywasfree]

Feeney has a mystery Knee injury. Nothing coming up on scans but he is complaining of pain.

Where have we seen that before?

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Aug 21, 2024 8:12:17 GMT 1 pughywasfree said:

Feeney has a mystery Knee injury. Nothing coming up on scans but he is complaining of pain.

Where have we seen that before?

I know what you're intimating but it could be a case of referred pain.

This is when the pain is felt in a part of the body that isn't the injured part because of our interconnected nervous system.
As an example I'm waiting for a hip replacement operation,I don't have pain in my hip but a lot in my left knee to such a degree that I'm having to use a frame to get around

[zenfootball2]

Aug 21, 2024 9:17:22 GMT 1 @gainsparkshrew said:

Aug 21, 2024 8:12:17 GMT 1 pughywasfree said:

Feeney has a mystery Knee injury. Nothing coming up on scans but he is complaining of pain.

Where have we seen that before?

I know what you're intimating but it could be a case of referred pain.

This is when the pain is felt in a part of the body that isn't the injured part because of our interconnected nervous system.
As an example I'm waiting for a hip replacement operation,I don't have pain in my hip but a lot in my left knee to such a degree that I'm having to use a frame to get around

I am sorry to hear this I hope you get the surgery soon

[zenfootball2]

Against Fulham the whole defence was a mess

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Aug 21, 2024 12:18:02 GMT 1 zenfootball2 said:

Aug 21, 2024 9:17:22 GMT 1 @gainsparkshrew said:

I know what you're intimating but it could be a case of referred pain.

This is when the pain is felt in a part of the body that isn't the injured part because of our interconnected nervous system.
As an example I'm waiting for a hip replacement operation,I don't have pain in my hip but a lot in my left knee to such a degree that I'm having to use a frame to get around

I am sorry to hear this I hope you get the surgery soon

Thanks Zen,there are benefits to it.
For example I can't go to any matches until after my operation as I cannot sit in one position for very long and I doubt that I would be allowed to bring my walking frame into the ground 😉😉😩🙄
Still with the current form its clouds and silver linings..hey ho 😁

[Deleted]

You can be slow physically yet quick mentally to read the game. Sadly the back 4 is neither.

[GrizzlyShrew]

Aug 21, 2024 14:59:44 GMT 1 @gainsparkshrew said:

Aug 21, 2024 12:18:02 GMT 1 zenfootball2 said:

I am sorry to hear this I hope you get the surgery soon

Thanks Zen,there are benefits to it.
For example I can't go to any matches until after my operation as I cannot sit in one position for very long and I doubt that I would be allowed to bring my walking frame into the ground 😉😉😩🙄
Still with the current form its clouds and silver linings..hey ho 😁

Good thing to stay away. Even with a walking frame you might get a place on the bench, probably still give Nsiala and Pierre a run for their money over 100mts.

[chameleon]

Shame we haven’t got players like Bomber Williams and Tommy Lynch who would put their head in front of a player shooting to prevent a goal. Thou shall not score. Loved those sort of players.

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Aug 21, 2024 17:16:25 GMT 1 GrizzlyShrew said:

Aug 21, 2024 14:59:44 GMT 1 @gainsparkshrew said:

Thanks Zen,there are benefits to it.
For example I can't go to any matches until after my operation as I cannot sit in one position for very long and I doubt that I would be allowed to bring my walking frame into the ground 😉😉😩🙄
Still with the current form its clouds and silver linings..hey ho 😁

Good thing to stay away. Even with a walking frame you might get a place on the bench, probably still give Nsiala and Pierre a run for their money over 100mts.

Gallows humour at its best 

On a serious note though, was Nsiala ever that quick?

[chirkshrew]

There wasn't many that got past nsiala in the 17/18 season,not that I can remember....a snip at £25000 then