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Post by belfastshrew on Aug 10, 2024 21:26:25 GMT 1
Nsiala and Pierre. I think that pairing was correct today. We needed that physicality. As pointed out, against runners those two would be doomed. But Stevenage didn't have runners. Horses for courses.
The pen wasn't a pen, so good job they missed. Their goal was a good strike, not much our lads could do about it. So I think our back two were the correct choice for this match.
We have options folks! Haven't said that for a while!
I heard Stevenage had some key players out injured. So they will prob improve. They finished top half last season didn't they??
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Post by Stowmarket Shrew on Aug 10, 2024 21:51:54 GMT 1
Well, that was exactly what I expected, and completely awful. The pairing of Pierre and Nsiala looks suicidal, Hoole looked horribly out of his depth, and Town just never got going. I'm not sure any of this is a suprise mind, when you recruit in the manner we have, this is always going to be the result. Two tough league games coming up, what odds we sit in the bottom four all season?
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Post by mattmw on Aug 10, 2024 21:55:33 GMT 1
Not really most of the posters say what they saw....which was very poor...with a hell of a lot of hard work to do,and more signings needed to compete,and have a chance of staying up🤷 The slightly worrying aspect is that we have a run of what look like tough games running through the rest of the month and September which alongside needing to stregthen the squad and get a few players back fit again could see us in a tricky league position by the end of September. I think the financial position the club is in was always going to limit summer recruitment and fans are pretty realistic the season will be tough. I still think there are some good signings we have made. What was worrying today was the side not looking like they really knew what tactics to play, and that we also seemed well off the pace physically and fitness wise, which did come as a bit of a surprise today. |
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Post by londonshrew75 on Aug 10, 2024 21:57:04 GMT 1
I really don't know what to say after that. The Villa kid O'Reilly a box ot tricks, even against that lot. The rest wouldn't look out of place in the Conference. The sad thing is that could possibly be a Conference fixture in three to four years time.
The only plus point is the rest won't be as physical.
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Post by chirkshrew on Aug 10, 2024 22:05:00 GMT 1
🙆🙆head in hands,perhaps we could get super Tommy bayliss back!!😂🤣...no thanks,that's why I had my head in my hands watching him perform last season!!🤣😂🤣🙆🙆🤦🤦🥱
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Post by pughywasfree on Aug 10, 2024 22:39:30 GMT 1
Well, that was exactly what I expected, and completely awful. The pairing of Pierre and Nsiala looks suicidal, Hoole looked horribly out of his depth, and Town just never got going. I'm not sure any of this is a suprise mind, when you recruit in the manner we have, this is always going to be the result. Two tough league games coming up, what odds we sit in the bottom four all season? This is not always going to be the result. We have probably got the worst squad in the division in terms of numbers and quality but this is football and it takes more than having the better players to win games. We just have to hope Hurst can instill enough pride, determination and motivation into the team that we can out fight, outrun and overachieve more than 4 other teams. I'm assuming if we can just get through this season we will be in a much better financial position going into next season. |
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Post by Bob Rickerton on Aug 10, 2024 22:47:08 GMT 1
🙆🙆head in hands,perhaps we could get super Tommy bayliss back!!😂🤣...no thanks,that's why I had my head in my hands watching him perform last season!!🤣😂🤣🙆🙆🤦🤦🥱 The Town haven't learned how to put the ball in the onion bag, and Chirky hasn't learned there's a "quote" functionality on B&A. We'll be relegated to L2 and he'll be relegated to Facebook, it's a sad state of affairs all-round. |
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Post by shrewswolf on Aug 10, 2024 23:44:38 GMT 1
It wasn’t great. If I’m honest, I didn’t expect it to be. I think good performances and wins are going to be scarce. We’re signing players that couldn’t get regular football at our level last season, or players off the back of injury.
In isolation, I don’t think today was quite as bad as people are saying but that’s just my opinion. Hurst was right to call it rugby, so as a spectacle, it was rubbish but result wise, we weren’t without opportunity to grab a point.
It is an opportunity missed to get points though you feel. Stevenage might continue to ‘over perform’ and in which case I’m being harsh on them, but today was the best chance in the opening 3 games to get something on the board.
Hope for some miracles with the last two or three signings, or otherwise be ready for much more of the same.
Whoever they are, they’ve got to be better than the likes of Hoole. It’s early to decide on a player, but he looks like the type we should be loaning out for experience! You could see in the last two friendlies how easily he could be got at, or how little tenacity there looked to be in his game. He needs some serious guidance.
Onwards and upwards….
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2024 1:11:01 GMT 1
Wasn't there but in the case of Hoole do you think it has anything to do with the guy playing in front of him aka Tom Bloxham who did a great job for most of last season selling Morgan Feeney short?
Doesn't help covering his full back and generally looks a fish out of Water.
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Post by pughywasfree on Aug 11, 2024 6:12:47 GMT 1
It wasn’t great. If I’m honest, I didn’t expect it to be. I think good performances and wins are going to be scarce. We’re signing players that couldn’t get regular football at our level last season, or players off the back of injury. In isolation, I don’t think today was quite as bad as people are saying but that’s just my opinion. Hurst was right to call it rugby, so as a spectacle, it was rubbish but result wise, we weren’t without opportunity to grab a point. It is an opportunity missed to get points though you feel. Stevenage might continue to ‘over perform’ and in which case I’m being harsh on them, but today was the best chance in the opening 3 games to get something on the board. Hope for some miracles with the last two or three signings, or otherwise be ready for much more of the same. Whoever they are, they’ve got to be better than the likes of Hoole. It’s early to decide on a player, but he looks like the type we should be loaning out for experience! You could see in the last two friendlies how easily he could be got at, or how little tenacity there looked to be in his game. He needs some serious guidance. Onwards and upwards…. Many more performances like that and it wont be long before we see Feeney at RB. Someone needs to tell Hoole that he does not need to make a challenge when the defender is going nowhere. Several times he challenged for the ball (including for the goal) when all he had to do was stand the attacker up. He was also nowhere to be seen when Nsiala got pulled out of position and offered little going forward. Not trying to single him out but it was one of my main concerns yesterday. If we are to stay up we have got to be hard to beat. |
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Post by Valerioch on Aug 11, 2024 8:36:15 GMT 1
Make no mistake we were absolutely gash - it was a terrible game of football overall, but my god we showed absolutely nothing second half
Any optimism we could come 20th has gone already - that’s a team who will come rock bottom unless we improve significantly. Thanks Roland and Mickey…
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Post by napoleon4th on Aug 11, 2024 8:47:39 GMT 1
Agree terrible game of football, let’s see where we are after 6 games, perhaps Stevenage style of play forced us into a lot of hoof ball. If the next 5 games are a similar pattern then it’s going to be tough.
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Post by Valerioch on Aug 11, 2024 8:51:45 GMT 1
Another long season ahead. Roland out. If we're sitting firmly in the relegation zone after 10 games I don't want to hear anyone chanting for Hurst to get sacked. Burton have secured more investment. Milton Keynes sold to a consortium Kuwait. Meanwhile Shrewsbury continue to rot from the inside out with the club always "seeking investment" but never actually allowing it inside the club. Roland is killing this football club and its time for fans to make their voices heard. Superb post that I totally agree with - how long until we see a banner? It must be close |
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Post by Valerioch on Aug 11, 2024 9:00:17 GMT 1
Usual over-reactions based upon just one result. Typical of the abject nonsense posted on this forum. Respectfully disagree with this, we were utterly appalling, and there is no over reaction, this club is dying from the top down and the inside out, we cannot sit by idly and watch it happen… |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2024 9:08:48 GMT 1
First viewing of this side who are going to prove the doubters wrong
Initial thoughts are we have a L2 (at best) defensive partnership, very little width, very little pace and as an attacking unit, we look as threatening as a team managed by Matt Taylor. It's the first game so you can't write them off completely but based on that, it's going to be a long season.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Aug 11, 2024 9:14:16 GMT 1
Its still early days, lets see what happens. Sure yesterday was disappointing but maybe a change in personnel, a tweak here or there and things may improve.
And granted you can say that we should to be able to compete against all sides and all styles but listening to Hurst in the post match interview perhaps our style is better suited against others and we may yet see that over the coming weeks. Let's see.
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Post by Pilch on Aug 11, 2024 9:37:51 GMT 1
Another long season ahead. Roland out. If we're sitting firmly in the relegation zone after 10 games I don't want to hear anyone chanting for Hurst to get sacked. Burton have secured more investment. Milton Keynes sold to a consortium Kuwait. Meanwhile Shrewsbury continue to rot from the inside out with the club always "seeking investment" but never actually allowing it inside the club. Roland is killing this football club and its time for fans to make their voices heard. What are you on about ? Burton and Milton Keynes both lost at home yesterday , and also you are instructing fans not to do exactly what you've spent more of your past doing , get back on topic , twice you tried turning this thread into an anti RW debate |
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Post by aghabullogueshrew on Aug 11, 2024 9:58:48 GMT 1
First, the good news! I found an excellent live feed from a dodgy website and didn’t have to pay Sky a penny to watch the game. Second, the bad news! I watched the game! A terrible advertisement for league one football with a physical team overpowering a team without an obvious plan. I thought we were poor, with too many 50/50 challenges being lost, no obvious game plan and quite a few vert poor performances. Bloxham offered little down the right and hardly helped Hoole at all, Hoole looked poor in general and the two centre backs ain’t no VVD’s so what is the point in playing it short and letting them bring it out from the back. Thought nobody covered themselves in glory yesterday.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2024 10:24:58 GMT 1
Mal Benning has become our most consistent performer since he joined us, and to be fair not many if any of us saw that coming when he first signed for us. Hopefully Hoole will prove he can step up to the mark too.
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Post by Exkeeper on Aug 11, 2024 10:25:09 GMT 1
Wasn't there but in the case of Hoole do you think it has anything to do with the guy playing in front of him aka Tom Bloxham who did a great job for most of last season selling Morgan Feeney short? Doesn't help covering his full back and generally looks a fish out of Water. I have said this before and still stand by it. Whatever the question, Bloxham is not the answer. He is not a winger, he is not an out and out striker and he is not a No 10 type of advanced m/f. He is still young and when he is wearing the STFC shirt I wish him well but at present I forsee as spell of bench warming. |
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Post by Exkeeper on Aug 11, 2024 10:27:31 GMT 1
Marquis looks lost as the loan striker and I thought we looked a bit more lively when JJ came on to help him.
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Post by Pilch on Aug 11, 2024 10:30:03 GMT 1
Wasn't there but in the case of Hoole do you think it has anything to do with the guy playing in front of him aka Tom Bloxham who did a great job for most of last season selling Morgan Feeney short? Doesn't help covering his full back and generally looks a fish out of Water. I have said this before and still stand by it. Whatever the question, Bloxham is not the answer. He is not a winger, he is not an out and out striker and he is not a No 10 type of advanced m/f. He is still young and when he is wearing the STFC shirt I wish him well but at present I forsee as spell of bench warming. he tires so quickly, but does have the occasional burst of speed, I think he could make a useful super sub when most legs are a bit weary but he's not a starter for me |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2024 10:33:36 GMT 1
The defence worries the hell out of me this season, it looks such a downgrade on recent seasons, and any moderately successful Salop team has been based on a solid defence given we’re never fluent scorers.
Concerning performance, but it’s only one game. Might take Hurst a while to work out his best XI.
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Post by Pilch on Aug 11, 2024 10:38:09 GMT 1
The defence worries the hell out of me this season, it looks such a downgrade on recent seasons, and any moderately successful Salop team has been based on a solid defence given we’re never fluent scorers. Concerning performance, but it’s only one game. Might take Hurst a while to work out his best XI. we do have the kid from villa but hes currently injured, I did expect the other feeney to start yesterday instead of nsiala, saying that stevenage didnt create too much, and lets not forget, they very nearly made the play offs last season, the big difference yesterday, they finished their chance, Benning could have finished a similar attempt on goal for us but put it over, fine margins ;-) |
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Post by shrewswolf on Aug 11, 2024 11:10:33 GMT 1
The defence worries the hell out of me this season, it looks such a downgrade on recent seasons, and any moderately successful Salop team has been based on a solid defence given we’re never fluent scorers. Concerning performance, but it’s only one game. Might take Hurst a while to work out his best XI. we do have the kid from villa but hes currently injured,   I did expect the other feeney to start yesterday instead of nsiala,   saying that stevenage didnt create too much,   and lets not forget,  they very nearly made the play offs last season,  the big difference yesterday,  they finished their chance,  Benning could have finished a similar attempt on goal for us but put it over,  fine margins ;-) Exactly. I think the game was shocking from both sets of players, in terms of the style it was played out in but the general consensus that Stevenage battered us and tore our defence apart isn’t something I can get on board with. Feeney (the Morgan one) would’ve added zero pace to the partnership and a great deal less physicality. We missed a great chance first half and really decent one second half. Either or both should go in, and isn’t a million miles away from what they created at the other end. It’s just the way they edged their way to physical dominance that really worried me but that is their way of playing, so perhaps expected. As I said in my previous post, Salop provided exactly the performance I expected from the signings we have managed to afford and it wasn’t a good watch but purely 11 vs 11, we could’ve drawn that game. |
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Post by zenfootball2 on Aug 11, 2024 11:29:20 GMT 1
Well, that was exactly what I expected, and completely awful. The pairing of Pierre and Nsiala looks suicidal, Hoole looked horribly out of his depth, and Town just never got going. I'm not sure any of this is a suprise mind, when you recruit in the manner we have, this is always going to be the result. Two tough league games coming up, what odds we sit in the bottom four all season? This is not always going to be the result. We have probably got the worst squad in the division in terms of numbers and quality but this is football and it takes more than having the better players to win games. We just have to hope Hurst can instill enough pride, determination and motivation into the team that we can out fight, outrun and overachieve more than 4 other teams. I'm assuming if we can just get through this season we will be in a much better financial position going into next season. Some have commented that some players did not look fit and did not look as if we had a system to play to, if that is the case then it is disappointing, I really had hope with Hurst in charge we would be starting with a team as fit as a butchers dog. Previously Hurst team was very organised so let us hope he sorts both areas as quickly as possible . If our center backs struggle let us hope Hurst comes up with some fine tuning to sort it out, perhaps we could look at having a sweeper? |
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Post by wakemanender on Aug 11, 2024 11:33:10 GMT 1
Wrexham are now in a better league position than us for the first time in many many seasons. Can't see that changing now. Money talks. Impressive attacking style from Wrexham yesterday and very classy goals.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Aug 11, 2024 12:38:03 GMT 1
Wrexham are now in a better league position than us for the first time in many many seasons. Can't see that changing now. Money talks. Impressive attacking style from Wrexham yesterday and very classy goals. [Wrexham have splashed the cash and have strength in depth, I believe they spent £300,000 on one defender, they also outbid one club for.a player by offering. Him £3,000 more a week! I did find it ironic when the manager said the market was distorted and had faced some astronomical financial demands, he seems oblivious to the reality that Wrexham have fueled it.season The reality this season is that there is a gulf is spending power, this not anything new but seems to be more noticeable this season, even clubs with large debts have been splashing cash. So town really need to ultra fit, have a high work rate, press hard all over the park and a system that works for the players we have, we need to be very hard to beat and try to get some goals in set pieces. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2024 12:48:02 GMT 1
Wrexham will find their own problems eventually.
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Post by chameleon on Aug 11, 2024 13:25:39 GMT 1
There should be a few changes for the County game. Hopefully he plays 2 upfront. 4-3-1-2. Until we’ve got in 2 wide players who are any good this system might be the best atm.
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