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Post by Minormorris64 on Aug 10, 2024 19:34:56 GMT 1
Centre backs will be on their backsides against anyone with real pace they were bad enough today and Winchester should concentrate on that round white thing not the bloke in black
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Post by Scarecrow on Aug 10, 2024 19:35:31 GMT 1
Another long season ahead. Roland out. If we're sitting firmly in the relegation zone after 10 games I don't want to hear anyone chanting for Hurst to get sacked. Burton have secured more investment. Milton Keynes sold to a consortium Kuwait. Meanwhile Shrewsbury continue to rot from the inside out with the club always "seeking investment" but never actually allowing it inside the club. Roland is killing this football club and its time for fans to make their voices heard. |
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Post by BlueAndAmber50 on Aug 10, 2024 19:36:41 GMT 1
Nsiala looks awful today , as he has in all the pre season games I’ve seen.
Can’t believe he didn’t get sent off either
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Post by belfastshrew on Aug 10, 2024 19:37:10 GMT 1
Very poor wasn't it...whatever the gameplan was, we couldn't manage it. It was Oldham mark 2.
Savin - 6
Benning - 7
Pierre - 6
Nsiala - 5.5
Hoole - 5.5
Shipley - 6
Winchester - 6
Rossiter - 5.5
Bloxham - 5.5
O'Reilly - 6.5
Marquis - 6
Biggins - 5
Kayode - 5
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Post by zenfootball2 on Aug 10, 2024 19:37:17 GMT 1
I had hoped for a point today, a disappointing result and poor performance by town against a team who are amongst the favourites to be relegated.
Plenty of work to be done by Hurst on the training ground let us hope we improve and see how things are after 12 games.
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Post by northwestman on Aug 10, 2024 19:37:20 GMT 1
One shot in each half. No attacking threat whatsoever.
We deserved nothing from that game and got nothing.
Bloxham faded badly and posed little threat after missing the only decent chance we created all game.
Oh for the wing play of Whalley and Rodman.
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Post by MetaShrew on Aug 10, 2024 19:37:49 GMT 1
Rats!
Although it goes without saying, I'll say anyway that it's only day one of a long old season.
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Post by mattmw on Aug 10, 2024 19:38:05 GMT 1
Wasn't overly optimistic of picking up much from Stevenage today, but that was a very worrying performance to start the season.
Stevenage were nothing special but were so much better organised, effective and clear in what they were doing we just looked second best throughout the whole match. Ref didn't help the match flow with all the yellows and constant blowing up.
As people said in pre-season the problem of how we play out from the back stands out as a major problem. If we try and play out from the back even the very basic press from Stevenage caught us out 3-4 times, but the keeper going long just saw the ball return all the time. Marquis is not a target man nor someone who can get behind a defence and was really ineffective.
Can only hope Pierre and Toto improve their fitness as they look terrible and even allowing for the ref being card happy both could well have seen red. So slow they had to foul the player they were marking time and time again
O'Reilly had a few good moments and does look to get his head up and look for a pass but the rest of the midfield were terrible, even Winchester looked out of it after 25 minutes and I really don't recall the other midfielders doing anything of note.
Benning as per last season got stuck in and up and down the pitch and probably had our best chances, but the fact a left back was our only creative spark is a massive problem, and the subs offered nothing and if anything made us worse. Biggins had a dreadful 20 minutes when he came on.
Hopefully some more players to come in and a lot more work in training to get the team playing as a unit, but a very depressing start to the new season
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Post by dachshund on Aug 10, 2024 19:39:09 GMT 1
Rough watch that. Pierre looks like he’s come out of retirement for a charity game
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Post by kl8-2 on Aug 10, 2024 19:41:15 GMT 1
Once again the lack of pace in the team is blindingly obvious.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2024 19:45:18 GMT 1
All said and done that was a totally insipid performance by any standards.
Our 2 centre backs are going to be toast when we come up against anyone half decent.
I honestly expected a better performance from us today, how naïve of me!
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Post by pughywasfree on Aug 10, 2024 19:46:30 GMT 1
Another long season ahead. Roland out. If we're sitting firmly in the relegation zone after 10 games I don't want to hear anyone chanting for Hurst to get sacked. Burton have secured more investment. Milton Keynes sold to a consortium Kuwait. Meanwhile Shrewsbury continue to rot from the inside out with the club always "seeking investment" but never actually allowing it inside the club. Roland is killing this football club and its time for fans to make their voices heard. Like a broken record. We are were we are. Skint, losing money and having to be propped up by RW's investments. We don't need the same rants after every poor result. Try backing the club instead of pushing negativity. |
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Post by chirkshrew on Aug 10, 2024 19:48:01 GMT 1
Get Lloyd in instead of marquis,at least he'll do the legwork,but needs help to do it... Winchester poor,rossiter....non existent really....need at least another 4/5 players...but that ain't gonna happen 🤷🤷
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2024 19:49:44 GMT 1
Very poor wasn't it...whatever the gameplan was, we couldn't manage it. It was Oldham mark 2. Savin - 6 Benning - 7 Pierre - 6 Nsiala - 5.5 Hoole - 5.5 Shipley - 6 Winchester - 6 Rossiter - 5.5 Bloxham - 5.5 O'Reilly - 6.5 Marquis - 6 Biggins - 5 Kayode - 5 I thought for a moment that I too was watching the Oldham game again! Pierre and Toto together is certainly not a match made in heaven. |
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Post by pughywasfree on Aug 10, 2024 19:50:47 GMT 1
Wasn't overly optimistic of picking up much from Stevenage today, but that was a very worrying performance to start the season. Stevenage were nothing special but were so much better organised, effective and clear in what they were doing we just looked second best throughout the whole match. Ref didn't help the match flow with all the yellows and constant blowing up. As people said in pre-season the problem of how we play out from the back stands out as a major problem. If we try and play out from the back even the very basic press from Stevenage caught us out 3-4 times, but the keeper going long just saw the ball return all the time. Marquis is not a target man nor someone who can get behind a defence and was really ineffective. Can only hope Pierre and Toto improve their fitness as they look terrible and even allowing for the ref being card happy both could well have seen red. So slow they had to foul the player they were marking time and time again O'Reilly had a few good moments and does look to get his head up and look for a pass but the rest of the midfield were terrible, even Winchester looked out of it after 25 minutes and I really don't recall the other midfielders doing anything of note. Benning as per last season got stuck in and up and down the pitch and probably had our best chances, but the fact a left back was our only creative spark is a massive problem, and the subs offered nothing and if anything made us worse. Biggins had a dreadful 20 minutes when he came on. Hopefully some more players to come in and a lot more work in training to get the team playing as a unit, but a very depressing start to the new season Bang on assessments but I would point out that (according the commentary) Stevenage have not made many changes this summer so their team is well drilled and know their roles and each others game. Other than some solid defending and a bully up front I did not rate them in the slightest, worst league 1 team I have seen for a long time we just had no answer to their pace and power. |
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Post by pughywasfree on Aug 10, 2024 19:52:41 GMT 1
Only 1 draw out of the 12 league 1 games played today. Only 2 games with more than 1 goal in it.
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Post by peterjones1 on Aug 10, 2024 19:52:43 GMT 1
Wasn't overly optimistic of picking up much from Stevenage today, but that was a very worrying performance to start the season. Stevenage were nothing special but were so much better organised, effective and clear in what they were doing we just looked second best throughout the whole match. Ref didn't help the match flow with all the yellows and constant blowing up. As people said in pre-season the problem of how we play out from the back stands out as a major problem. If we try and play out from the back even the very basic press from Stevenage caught us out 3-4 times, but the keeper going long just saw the ball return all the time. Marquis is not a target man nor someone who can get behind a defence and was really ineffective. Can only hope Pierre and Toto improve their fitness as they look terrible and even allowing for the ref being card happy both could well have seen red. So slow they had to foul the player they were marking time and time again O'Reilly had a few good moments and does look to get his head up and look for a pass but the rest of the midfield were terrible, even Winchester looked out of it after 25 minutes and I really don't recall the other midfielders doing anything of note. Benning as per last season got stuck in and up and down the pitch and probably had our best chances, but the fact a left back was our only creative spark is a massive problem, and the subs offered nothing and if anything made us worse. Biggins had a dreadful 20 minutes when he came on. Hopefully some more players to come in and a lot more work in training to get the team playing as a unit, but a very depressing start to the new season Your point about the Stevenage press hits upon one of my biggest alarm bells from the game really. I get that the top sides can really punish you for playing from the back but Stevenage were so basic, so predictable, it was like a beginners guide to pressing...yet we still couldn't cope with it. Watching Pierre toddle about is not entirely unlike the Marshmallow Man at the end of Ghostbusters. |
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Post by BlueAndAmber50 on Aug 10, 2024 19:52:49 GMT 1
Hurst just said Pierre got the nod ahead of Feeney due to his physicality, does that mean Nsiala is our first choice centre half and the other two are fighting for the other place
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Post by Scarecrow on Aug 10, 2024 19:52:57 GMT 1
If we're sitting firmly in the relegation zone after 10 games I don't want to hear anyone chanting for Hurst to get sacked. Burton have secured more investment. Milton Keynes sold to a consortium Kuwait. Meanwhile Shrewsbury continue to rot from the inside out with the club always "seeking investment" but never actually allowing it inside the club. Roland is killing this football club and its time for fans to make their voices heard. Like a broken record. We are were we are. Skint, losing money and having to be propped up by RW's investments. We don't need the same rants after every poor result. Try backing the club instead of pushing negativity. Its hard to be positive under the current ownership. 11 years of stagnation and why is it we have no money? Because Roland is unwilling to relinquish any control of this club for investment. The revolving door of changing faces has been here for years, even in League 2, and by the end of this year we'll be back where we started when Roland took over. I feel fans have very short memories. When we moved to the New Meadow Roland promised us "championship football in the decade" and yet we've moved from being a League two team to being a bottom half shambolic League 1 team for the last decade. |
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Post by vladimir on Aug 10, 2024 19:54:32 GMT 1
If we're sitting firmly in the relegation zone after 10 games I don't want to hear anyone chanting for Hurst to get sacked. Burton have secured more investment. Milton Keynes sold to a consortium Kuwait. Meanwhile Shrewsbury continue to rot from the inside out with the club always "seeking investment" but never actually allowing it inside the club. Roland is killing this football club and its time for fans to make their voices heard. Like a broken record. We are were we are. Skint, losing money and having to be propped up by RW's investments. We don't need the same rants after every poor result. Try backing the club instead of pushing negativity. "we are where we are". Quite, the thing is we could be somewhere very different. That's never been the case before this off season. |
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Post by Rusholme Ruffian on Aug 10, 2024 19:59:17 GMT 1
Wasn't overly optimistic of picking up much from Stevenage today, but that was a very worrying performance to start the season. Stevenage were nothing special but were so much better organised, effective and clear in what they were doing we just looked second best throughout the whole match. Ref didn't help the match flow with all the yellows and constant blowing up. As people said in pre-season the problem of how we play out from the back stands out as a major problem. If we try and play out from the back even the very basic press from Stevenage caught us out 3-4 times, but the keeper going long just saw the ball return all the time. Marquis is not a target man nor someone who can get behind a defence and was really ineffective. Can only hope Pierre and Toto improve their fitness as they look terrible and even allowing for the ref being card happy both could well have seen red. So slow they had to foul the player they were marking time and time again O'Reilly had a few good moments and does look to get his head up and look for a pass but the rest of the midfield were terrible, even Winchester looked out of it after 25 minutes and I really don't recall the other midfielders doing anything of note. Benning as per last season got stuck in and up and down the pitch and probably had our best chances, but the fact a left back was our only creative spark is a massive problem, and the subs offered nothing and if anything made us worse. Biggins had a dreadful 20 minutes when he came on. Hopefully some more players to come in and a lot more work in training to get the team playing as a unit, but a very depressing start to the new season Bang on assessments but I would point out that (according the commentary) Stevenage have not made many changes this summer so their team is well drilled and know their roles and each others game. Other than some solid defending and a bully up front I did not rate them in the slightest, worst league 1 team I have seen for a long time we just had no answer to their pace and power. They have 5 people making debuts in the starting XI. Shrewsbury had 5, 6 if you count Nsiala |
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Post by pughywasfree on Aug 10, 2024 20:01:17 GMT 1
Like a broken record. We are were we are. Skint, losing money and having to be propped up by RW's investments. We don't need the same rants after every poor result. Try backing the club instead of pushing negativity. Its hard to be positive under the current ownership. 11 years of stagnation and why is it we have no money? Because Roland is unwilling to relinquish any control of this club for investment. The revolving door of changing faces has been here for years, even in League 2, and by the end of this year we'll be back where we started when Roland took over. I feel fans have very short memories. When we moved to the New Meadow Roland promised us "championship football in the decade" and yet we've moved from being a League two team to being a bottom half shambolic League 1 team for the last decade. The discussion has been done to death on here so I don't wish to go over it all again. We know where we are. We are skint, RW is putting his own money into the club to cushion the loses, the club is for sale and until we receive significant investment we are going to need a lot of luck just to preserve our current league 1 status. It sucks, its depressing and as fans we are powerless to change it so the only thing we can do is hope for change and get behind the club as it is. |
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Post by gtismygod on Aug 10, 2024 20:03:48 GMT 1
Not sure what we’re expecting from the centre halves. A 32 year old released by Burton because he couldn’t get in their team, and a 31 year old released by Wimbledon because he couldn’t get in their team.
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Post by mattmw on Aug 10, 2024 20:18:42 GMT 1
Not sure what we’re expecting from the centre halves. A 32 year old released by Burton because he couldn’t get in their team, and a 31 year old released by Wimbledon because he couldn’t get in their team. I had been hoping that Nsiala with a full pre-season behind him might not be the panic signing he appeared to be in the off season, but on todays evidence even if he gets a fitter the pace he once had has gone and he looks way way off the pace for league one. Playing alongside Pierre clearly showed up the lack of pace but I fear the better quicker sides are going to run rings around our defence |
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Post by servernaside on Aug 10, 2024 20:18:55 GMT 1
Usual over-reactions based upon just one result. Typical of the abject nonsense posted on this forum.
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Post by chirkshrew on Aug 10, 2024 20:26:05 GMT 1
Not really most of the posters say what they saw....which was very poor...with a hell of a lot of hard work to do,and more signings needed to compete,and have a chance of staying up🤷
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Post by chirkshrew on Aug 10, 2024 20:27:00 GMT 1
And Stevenage will be round the bottom as well...they were poor too
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Post by Bob Rickerton on Aug 10, 2024 20:35:40 GMT 1
Fitness looking way off after pre-season and Super Tommy Bayliss getting two assists.
If the travelling faithful think they've had a stinker of a day, fancy how owd Chirky feels. Proper head in hands moment.
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Post by callum on Aug 10, 2024 20:37:47 GMT 1
Did anyone else think the amber on our shirts looked very orange?
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Aug 10, 2024 20:42:32 GMT 1
Did anyone else think the amber on our shirts looked very orange? Yeah, my Mrs did...👍 |
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