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Post by pughywasfree on Jul 25, 2024 7:25:52 GMT 1
Will never take Moore seriously after those quotes about him recommending Paul Hurst to Wycherley. thousands of others did too, do you take them seriously ? I think he is referring to the fact he took credit for Hurst coming back when its pretty common knowledge RW would have had him back a long time ago if it wasn't for BC. |
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Post by Pilch on Jul 25, 2024 7:38:01 GMT 1
thousands of others did too, do you take them seriously ? I think he is referring to the fact he took credit for Hurst coming back when its pretty common knowledge RW would have had him back a long time ago if it wasn't for BC. there was several interviews held for the vacant position , fans often ask exactly what Moore does , imagine if he came forward and said we've interviewed several managers but I wasn't prepared to give opinion and let the chairman choose , instead he basically did what he is paid for and was asked about it and told it how it was It might have been the equivalent of a forward explaining how he tapped an open goal in but that's exactly what happened in my opinion I'm still wondering what he's done wrong |
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Post by dachshund on Jul 25, 2024 8:06:25 GMT 1
How about when Matt Taylor was struggling, so Micky gave an interview stating that a lot of people have the perception that the signings that season were Micky Moore signings, but actually they’re not? Chucking an inexperienced appointment under the bus and distancing himself from any sense of failure.
This podcast reveals that’s clearly a pattern, not a one-off
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2024 8:30:41 GMT 1
thousands of others did too, do you take them seriously ? I think he is referring to the fact he took credit for Hurst coming back when its pretty common knowledge RW would have had him back a long time ago if it wasn't for BC. Spot on. Even in the weeks before Taylor was finally dismissed we know that RW had been keeping contact with Hurst and was ready to bring him back. So to then read those quotes which I believe not one single person believed was one of the funnier moments of his time here to date. |
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Post by Pilch on Jul 25, 2024 8:38:47 GMT 1
So what has he done wrong ?
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Post by gtismygod on Jul 25, 2024 8:42:19 GMT 1
So what has he done wrong ? Wasted all of our money on s**t players? |
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Post by Valerioch on Jul 25, 2024 8:53:53 GMT 1
So what has he done wrong ? More to the point, what's he done right?  |
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Post by Pilch on Jul 25, 2024 9:22:34 GMT 1
So what has he done wrong ? Wasted all of our money on s**t players? Could you maybe go into detail of that because I think you've just made up fake news there |
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Post by Pilch on Jul 25, 2024 9:24:26 GMT 1
So what has he done wrong ? More to the point, what's he done right? It's like debating with bitter rivals on here |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2024 9:35:37 GMT 1
On the signings, the jury’s out on some of them but all the loans were an unmitigated disaster, as were the three from Ireland. If we’re looking at a success rate you’re probably looking at about 10%. But there will be excuses of course, injuries, budget etc etc, so the one area where he spectacularly failed and there’s absolutely no excuse was the appointment of Matt Taylor.
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Post by ssshrew on Jul 25, 2024 9:49:14 GMT 1
Has to be said that none of them were as big a waste of space and money as O’Brien. I fume every time I think of him.
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Post by Pilch on Jul 25, 2024 9:50:36 GMT 1
On the signings, the jury’s out on some of them but all the loans were an unmitigated disaster, as were the three from Ireland. If we’re looking at a success rate you’re probably looking at about 10%. But there will be excuses of course, injuries, budget etc etc, so the one area where he spectacularly failed and there’s absolutely no excuse was the appointment of Matt Taylor. we stayed up against the odds , despite being hammered with injuries like never before and the most imbalanced squad ever due to a guy who's head was bigger than the planet Uranus and thought he owned the club |
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Post by Valerioch on Jul 25, 2024 10:37:39 GMT 1
More to the point, what's he done right? It's like debating with bitter rivals on here That's nothing then |
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Post by vladimir on Jul 25, 2024 10:42:52 GMT 1
Not really. The context of the interview was an arrogant feller who seems to have no wrong wherever he's been, always there to save the day etc whilst being quite unpleasant about numerous staff and players he worked with. Extremely intrigued to here the second part though I have a strong feeling he will extensively mention the word luck. To be honest if we are going down a Director of Football route I'd far rather someone who doesn't put all their hopes on luck for success. what has he done wrong then ? Abject failure at Barrow that he tried to turn into a I wasn't given enough time spiel (1 win in 10). Failed at Grimsby. Those are a couple. I truly wish he conjures up some magic but based on the recruitment last season, the dearth of good loans which I have acknowledged were his speciality at Cheltenham, for me performance has been more negative than positive. I'll await the next edition of the podcast for how he saw last season, I can't imagine his pal Gav Cowan will have given him a rough ride on it. |
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Post by Pilch on Jul 25, 2024 10:53:23 GMT 1
what has he done wrong then ? Abject failure at Barrow that he tried to turn into a I wasn't given enough time spiel (1 win in 10). Failed at Grimsby. Those are a couple. I truly wish he conjures up some magic but based on the recruitment last season, the dearth of good loans which I have acknowledged were his speciality at Cheltenham, for me performance has been more negative than positive. I'll await the next edition of the podcast for how he saw last season, I can't imagine his pal Gav Cowan will have given him a rough ride on it. There you go again totally swerving around the disaster the previous manager created It's that Gav Cowan the greatest centre back we ever had ? yeah I listen to in the stiffs too In fact name me a football retated person who ever went on interview and did nothing but quote bad things about themselves You forgot to qualify the bit about how he wasted ALL our money on s**te players |
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Post by Valerioch on Jul 25, 2024 10:59:04 GMT 1
Abject failure at Barrow that he tried to turn into a I wasn't given enough time spiel (1 win in 10). Failed at Grimsby. Those are a couple. I truly wish he conjures up some magic but based on the recruitment last season, the dearth of good loans which I have acknowledged were his speciality at Cheltenham, for me performance has been more negative than positive. I'll await the next edition of the podcast for how he saw last season, I can't imagine his pal Gav Cowan will have given him a rough ride on it. There you go again totally swerving around the disaster the previous manager created It's that Gav Cowan the greatest centre back we ever had ? yeah I listen to in the stiffs too In fact name me a football retated person who ever went on interview and did nothing but quote bad things about themselves You forgot to qualify the bit about how he wasted ALL our money on s**te players
Our 2nd best finish in 30 odd years suggests you are factually incorrect |
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Post by vladimir on Jul 25, 2024 11:05:11 GMT 1
Abject failure at Barrow that he tried to turn into a I wasn't given enough time spiel (1 win in 10). Failed at Grimsby. Those are a couple. I truly wish he conjures up some magic but based on the recruitment last season, the dearth of good loans which I have acknowledged were his speciality at Cheltenham, for me performance has been more negative than positive. I'll await the next edition of the podcast for how he saw last season, I can't imagine his pal Gav Cowan will have given him a rough ride on it. There you go again totally swerving around the disaster the previous manager created It's that Gav Cowan the greatest centre back we ever had ? yeah I listen to in the stiffs too In fact name me a football retated person who ever went on interview and did nothing but quote bad things about themselves You forgot to qualify the bit about how he wasted ALL our money on s**te players I think the " disaster the previous" "regime" created, that's manager, chairman, CEO is well documented. Of course you swerve one person out of that debate routinely so there is zero point engaging there. I'm not sure what you are on about related to Cowan, are you making a point there? I never made the point about money on s**te players think you are confusing me with another response in the thread. I would expect Moore to have shown some contrition at least once in the interview. Footballers are naturally confident people of course, but some of the very best at least admit when they are at fault. Moore didn't once in this interview (so far) and even stated to a one win in ten record of how much his team "battered" the opposition and all he needed was time. |
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Post by davycrockett on Jul 25, 2024 11:13:26 GMT 1
Fairly impressed with that, for someone with so much experience I can't but feel his recruitment and introduction to the fans was clouded by the secrecy of Caldwell and Cotterill leaving with no more than veiled reasons given by the club though innuendo and orchestrated 'leaks' to the fan base...People don't trust the club as it's too selective about WTF happened. This has made them more suspicious of the plan to introduce a DOF.
Seems like we should have been hearing more from Moore early on when Taylor was left as the main club spokesman on footballing matters. Bignots appointment raising the biggest question.
We need to unite behind the team and Hurst and think more positively and stop thinking we're desperate financially and about to go bust. A very dangerous and negative approach that leaves fans split...should be BAU keeping within an average budget for clubs of similar size and little debt.
Looking forward to part 2
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jul 25, 2024 11:16:11 GMT 1
I can see where one or two are coming from but lets not forget that this is a podcast and...how to put it, it's about entertainment as much as insight into his career and the game etc. So of course Moore is going to pick up on certain stories and incidents from the past that he thinks will entertain and be of interest to those listening.
Very much looking forward to the next episode anyhow. I mean last season was a complete mess so it will be interesting to hear what he says about that.
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Post by secretshrew on Jul 25, 2024 11:27:28 GMT 1
Although MM hasn’t covered himself in glory with some of his signings last season I don’t think he wasted a huge amount of money.
Most were loans, most were punts or from divisions lower so I can’t imagine anyone cost the club a vast amount.
The aim last season was to stay up. End of. He helped us achieve that and he deserves a certain amount of credit for that. It’s obvious he’s well connected so I’m hoping for a bit more quality in the signings this time around especially given we’re going for a smaller squad.
Initial signs are good and it always takes time for players to gel. Time will tell of course.
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Post by Pilch on Jul 25, 2024 11:39:00 GMT 1
There you go again totally swerving around the disaster the previous manager created It's that Gav Cowan the greatest centre back we ever had ? yeah I listen to in the stiffs too In fact name me a football retated person who ever went on interview and did nothing but quote bad things about themselves You forgot to qualify the bit about how he wasted ALL our money on s**te players
Our 2nd best finish in 30 odd years suggests you are factually incorrect 🥱 2nd best in the league in 30 years on the pitch ( a whole 3 places better than ricketts ) 🎉🥳🍾🎉🥳🍾 Probably 2nd worst ever off the pitch , complete with the domino effect we've seen since What a hero , we need a gold statue |
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Post by ProudSalopian on Jul 25, 2024 12:15:59 GMT 1
Found it interesting, I've always got the impression he's a bit dry and quiet/shy, someone who isn't comfortable speaking publicly, however on this he comes across that he's got a bit of a personality and certainly sounded more natural.
That being said, ultimately he won't be judged by his his appearances on a podcast, he will be judged by 1) the players he has recruited, 2) the head coaches he has appointed and 3) the framework/structure/strategy/culture he has put in place at the football club. I would argue that the first two were a failure last season so naturally he will be under scrutiny this season. On the third item, this might be successful and what he has put in place will benefit us in the future, the problem is we don't know anything about it.
The next episode should be interesting and will hopefully reveal more about the position of the club today
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Post by Pilch on Jul 25, 2024 12:18:20 GMT 1
Found it interesting, I've always got the impression he's a bit dry and quiet/shy, someone who isn't comfortable speaking publicly, however on this he comes across that he's got a bit of a personality and certainly sounded more natural. That being said, ultimately he won't be judged by his his appearances on a podcast, he will be judged by 1) the players he has recruited, 2) the head coaches he has appointed and 3) the framework/structure/strategy/culture he has put in place at the football club. I would argue that the first two were a failure last season so naturally he will be under scrutiny this season. On the third item, this might be successful and what he has put in place will benefit us in the future, the problem is we don't know anything about it. The next episode should be interesting and will hopefully reveal more about the position of the club today he got ultimately judged for making the easiest decision ever in the history or football by recommending hurst as the next coach 😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫 |
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Post by The Shropshire Tenor on Jul 27, 2024 18:32:03 GMT 1
Just listened to this, he seemed to me to portray himself primarily as a coach and mentor to young, inexperienced managers.
It will be interesting to see how the dynamic with an experienced managerial/coaching pair will work out. It should be OK providing boundaries are agreed.
Signs so far are encouraging with some intriguing recruitment. I guess success will be any position above the bottom 4 and a return to entertainment.
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Post by belfastshrew on Jul 27, 2024 20:14:55 GMT 1
So...the question remains...we know what MM has done wrong...what has he done right?
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Post by armchairfan on Jul 27, 2024 20:28:29 GMT 1
So...the question remains...we know what MM has done wrong...what has he done right? Agreeing with the Chairman that appointing Mr Hurst would be a good idea, notwithstanding the fact that some on here wouldn't think that....? |
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Post by Pilch on Jul 27, 2024 20:56:49 GMT 1
So...the question remains...we know what MM has done wrong...what has he done right? He's not that good , I mean we only beat championship derby 2-1 today 😝 Micky out 😝😝 |
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Post by akpaakpost on Jul 27, 2024 21:17:46 GMT 1
Great shift from Micky Moore for grabbing the two goals tonight.
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Post by Pilch on Jul 27, 2024 21:21:35 GMT 1
Great shift from Micky Moore for grabbing the two goals tonight. next time we lose, we'll take a look if Micky was in the defence |
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Post by callum on Jul 27, 2024 23:16:12 GMT 1
I had to switch off about two minutes in, I can't be doing with the bloke, seems full of himself.
I'd be interested to know if the signings are Hurst signings, I don't believe PH would let Moore make the final decision.
If I was PH I'd want him out the door asap, if RW had to make a choice we all know who'd be going and sooner the better.
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