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Post by staffordshrew on Jul 12, 2024 10:44:04 GMT 1
A commentator on the radio said "The Repuclican's are going with the only candidate Biden can defeat and the Democrats are going with the only candidate Trump can defeat". Sort it out!
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Post by zenfootball2 on Jul 12, 2024 20:57:50 GMT 1
You have to feel for President Zelensky !! I'm just amazed how either Biden or Trump pass the medical!! How in earth can America get itself in such a mess |
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Post by Pilch on Jul 12, 2024 21:19:14 GMT 1
trump v biden. car wreck
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Post by johnno on Jul 21, 2024 19:57:16 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2024 20:00:26 GMT 1
Brave decision, but correct IMO. |
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Post by cmonsalop on Jul 21, 2024 20:32:31 GMT 1
How classless was that statement from Trump?!!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2024 20:38:28 GMT 1
How classless was that statement from Trump?!! Would you really expect anything else? Still as classy as ever. |
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Post by mattmw on Jul 21, 2024 20:51:43 GMT 1
Right decision by Biden all be it a bit late, probably should have decided not to seek another term in office at his age, as no longer had the support of his party and many deocrate followers. At 80 years old decision making must get more difficult and its clear some significant errors of leadership had crept in over the last few years.
Hopefully having taken the tough decison to step down history will be bit kinder to him with over 50 years in the Sentate, Vice President and President he has certainly served his country well, and deserves thanks for what he's done whilst realising its the time to step aside.
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Post by cmonsalop on Jul 21, 2024 21:12:39 GMT 1
Right decision by Biden all be it a bit late, probably should have decided not to seek another term in office at his age, as no longer had the support of his party and many deocrate followers. At 80 years old decision making must get more difficult and its clear some significant errors of leadership had crept in over the last few years. Hopefully having taken the tough decison to step down history will be bit kinder to him with over 50 years in the Sentate, Vice President and President he has certainly served his country well, and deserves thanks for what he's done whilst realising its the time to step aside. Now why couldn’t Trump have said that? |
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Post by cmonsalop on Jul 21, 2024 21:16:55 GMT 1
Right decision by Biden all be it a bit late, probably should have decided not to seek another term in office at his age, as no longer had the support of his party and many deocrate followers. At 80 years old decision making must get more difficult and its clear some significant errors of leadership had crept in over the last few years. Hopefully having taken the tough decison to step down history will be bit kinder to him with over 50 years in the Sentate, Vice President and President he has certainly served his country well, and deserves thanks for what he's done whilst realising its the time to step aside. |
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Post by Pilch on Jul 21, 2024 21:23:36 GMT 1
Jeremy Corbyn should have done the same years ago and didn't , and yet he's still going because idiots still vote for him
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Post by johnno on Jul 21, 2024 21:42:32 GMT 1
How classless was that statement from Trump?!!
Just shows what a horrible man he really is, everytime he opens his mouth he vomits out vile words and yet millions of idiots like and vote for him....pathetic really
Its just a shame Biden couldnt of said what was truly on his mind last week and that the gunmans aim was better and rather than his ear it had taken out his tongue
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2024 22:28:03 GMT 1
Jeremy Corbyn should have done the same years ago and didn't , and yet he's still going because idiots still vote for him Harsh and unpleasant to call anyone who exercises their democratic right to vote an idiot. If I made a blanket statement like idiots vote Conservative or Reform I expect I’d be criticised. Fact is more people in his constituency vote for him than any other option and consistently so, not my cup of tea but respect that others are allowed a different opinion. |
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Post by Pilch on Jul 21, 2024 23:03:17 GMT 1
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Post by aghabullogueshrew on Jul 22, 2024 0:16:23 GMT 1
I hope they go for VP Harris for the nomination. Why? Well Trump is a racist, sexist obnoxious bigot and she would be the perfect candidate against him! She would win the non redneck, ie. educated, female vote and the non-white vote! Go for it girl!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2024 6:33:15 GMT 1
Jeremy Corbyn should have done the same years ago and didn't , and yet he's still going because idiots still vote for him Should Corbyn have stepped aside after the 2017 election? Yes without a doubt in my mind.
Should he still be working as an excellent constituency MP? Yes, again with no doubt.
I don't know why you seem to be so anti-Corbyn, seeing as one f your major bugbears against Labour was the Iraq war which voted against and was a very vocal opponent of.
If it's an age thing it has to be an across the board age thing. Maybe have an enforced retirement age for all public servants of 70. I don't think many people would have an issue with that. Perhaps that should go for business leaders too, but you try telling Branson or Sugar that they can't run their businesses that they have built and you'd be in for a fight.
FWIW I would have no problem with a mandatory retirement age. 60 would be great 
Anyway, back on track, seeing as this is a thread about the election over the pond, we should talk about Kamala Harris and who her running mate should be.
For starters I don't think she is a shoo-in for the job, but she does appear to be in pole position and does have a lot of people endorsing her, including the Obama's. Personally I would love to see Pete Buttigieg on the ballot alongside Harris. Imagine the meltdown on Fox and Breitbart if a female Africa/Indian American former DA and a decorated, gay veteran were the Democrat ticket.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jul 22, 2024 7:16:48 GMT 1
Not sure what I'm supposed to see on that Morecambe thread? But are you pointing out that Feedo saw fit pull you up for calling people idiots but not johnno (for doing the exact same thing)? But I don't think that's a slight at you, I think that's political bias and just how a good few on here operate. |
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jul 22, 2024 7:30:09 GMT 1
Right decision from a Democrat point of view because it did look as though all the momentum was with Trump and the Republicans. The Democrats needed to kick start their campaign in some way or another and this looked to be the only option. It removes Biden and all his baggage from the campaign which looking easy meat for the Republicans. Its a whole new race now.
As for Harris, she seems to have been kept in the background for the most part but then I understand that tends to happen anyway when you're the vice-president. She has come across OK at times from what I have seen but at others she comes across as awkward, weird and cringeworthy. She was put in charge of the US southern border from what I recall and that's been a complete disaster so expect the Republicans to run with that again and again. She may appeal to a different demographic than Biden of course so there is that, that may help the Democrats (but that would be amongst those who already favour the Democrats I guess and so to what extent, who knows). But we're certainly going to be learning an awful lot more about her in the coming months.
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Post by Pilch on Jul 22, 2024 8:04:06 GMT 1
Not sure what I'm supposed to see on that Morecambe thread? But are you pointing out that Feedo saw fit pull you up for calling people idiots but not johnno (for doing the exact same thing)? But I don't think that's a slight at you, I think that's political bias and just how a good few on here operate. No, apparantly there were idiots voting on a poll according to feedo , no one criticised him , in fact I tried to add some common sense to the matter but got shot down by whoever was the number one petty antagonist at the time 😝 Nothing changes on here , anyway back to Joe 👍🇺🇸 Elder has been recieving the idiots vote. Shall we guess the idiotic six, would be a good game |
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jul 22, 2024 8:29:31 GMT 1
Not sure what I'm supposed to see on that Morecambe thread? But are you pointing out that Feedo saw fit pull you up for calling people idiots but not johnno (for doing the exact same thing)? But I don't think that's a slight at you, I think that's political bias and just how a good few on here operate. No, apparantly there were idiots voting on a poll according to feedo , no one criticised him , in fact I tried to add some common sense to the matter but got shot down by whoever was the number one petty antagonist at the time 😝 Nothing changes on here , anyway back to Joe 👍🇺🇸 Elder has been recieving the idiots vote. Shall we guess the idiotic six, would be a good game OK, I see it. But I still wouldn't take it personally. You made the error of criticizing Magic Grampa, that tends to garner a reaction from one or two on here. I'm sure Feedo will call out johnno for saying the very same thing towards Trump and those who voted for him. Any minute now...  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2024 8:51:16 GMT 1
No, apparantly there were idiots voting on a poll according to feedo , no one criticised him , in fact I tried to add some common sense to the matter but got shot down by whoever was the number one petty antagonist at the time 😝 Nothing changes on here , anyway back to Joe 👍🇺🇸 OK, I see it. But I still wouldn't take it personally. You made the error of criticizing Magic Grampa, that tends to garner a reaction from one or two on here. I'm sure Feedo will call out johnno for saying the very same thing towards Trump and those who voted for him. Any minute now... ****ing hell, Corbyn really does live rent free in your head. First reference to him and you’re always first on it like a dog on heat. I even said he’s not my cup of tea but you chose to ignore that. Also note, he didn’t even criticise ‘Magic Grampa’, but the ‘idiots’ who vote for him. Note to Johnno - anyone who exercises their democratic vote shouldn’t be called idiots. Even more so in a two horse race between Stutty’s pal Trump or the senile Joe Biden. Congrats Pilch on that incredible gotcha from 15 whole years ago!! Almost half my lifetime ago. |
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jul 22, 2024 9:11:16 GMT 1
OK, I see it. But I still wouldn't take it personally. You made the error of criticizing Magic Grampa, that tends to garner a reaction from one or two on here. I'm sure Feedo will call out johnno for saying the very same thing towards Trump and those who voted for him. Any minute now... ****ing hell, Corbyn really does live rent free in your head. First reference to him and you’re always first on it like a dog on heat. I even said he’s not my cup of tea but you chose to ignore that. Also note, he didn’t even criticise ‘Magic Grampa’, but the ‘idiots’ who vote for him. Note to Johnno - anyone who exercises their democratic vote shouldn’t be called idiots. Even more so in a two horse race between Stutty’s pal Trump or the senile Joe Biden. Congrats Pilch on that incredible gotcha from 15 whole years ago!! Almost half my lifetime ago.  Calm down. It was Pilch who brought Corbyn (and those who voted for him into the debate) and then referenced me when looking to how you reacted as a result. I was just looking to explain to him that it wasn't anything personal (as I think he believed) but more politics at play. Maybe have a look back at the thread before shooting off the profanities.  |
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Post by johnno on Jul 22, 2024 9:58:59 GMT 1
OK, I see it. But I still wouldn't take it personally. You made the error of criticizing Magic Grampa, that tends to garner a reaction from one or two on here. I'm sure Feedo will call out johnno for saying the very same thing towards Trump and those who voted for him. Any minute now... ****ing hell, Corbyn really does live rent free in your head. First reference to him and you’re always first on it like a dog on heat. I even said he’s not my cup of tea but you chose to ignore that. Also note, he didn’t even criticise ‘Magic Grampa’, but the ‘idiots’ who vote for him. Note to Johnno - anyone who exercises their democratic vote shouldn’t be called idiots. Even more so in a two horse race between Stutty’s pal Trump or the senile Joe Biden. Congrats Pilch on that incredible gotcha from 15 whole years ago!! Almost half my lifetime ago. Calm down owd lad, we've all had a drink |
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Post by Pilch on Jul 22, 2024 9:59:24 GMT 1
OK, I see it. But I still wouldn't take it personally. You made the error of criticizing Magic Grampa, that tends to garner a reaction from one or two on here. I'm sure Feedo will call out johnno for saying the very same thing towards Trump and those who voted for him. Any minute now... ****ing hell, Corbyn really does live rent free in your head. First reference to him and you’re always first on it like a dog on heat. I even said he’s not my cup of tea but you chose to ignore that. Also note, he didn’t even criticise ‘Magic Grampa’, but the ‘idiots’ who vote for him. Note to Johnno - anyone who exercises their democratic vote shouldn’t be called idiots. Even more so in a two horse race between Stutty’s pal Trump or the senile Joe Biden. Congrats Pilch on that incredible gotcha from 15 whole years ago!! Almost half my lifetime ago. Thank you 👍 My only advice on this site is just be yourself , that way no one can ever pull you up on your past if you try and pretend you are someone you are not to point score lets leave it there |
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Post by staffordshrew on Jul 22, 2024 10:19:13 GMT 1
Heard the tapes of a barnstorming Biden when he won the last election, contrasted to him now. So now we have a barnstorming Trump, who does show signs of losing it sometimes. Whose to say that his powers will last for the next four years? He's too old, they need a president more in tune with America now and with more chance of retaining what he has in the way of marbles for the next four years.
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Post by hectord0g137 on Jul 22, 2024 10:40:17 GMT 1
Don't necessarily agree on the age argument on here. New ideas can become new mistakes. Paradoxically experience can also repeat errors without being monitored. What do the Americans want? The same mistakes of a one time president or a 59 year old educated woman with 3 and a half years shadowing experience of the highest office in the land. Does anyone know of a younger person who won't make mistakes new or old
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2024 13:02:01 GMT 1
It doesn't matter how far gone Trump is, because the ramblings of the useful idiot are just lapped up by his base and what is complete gibberish when it leaves his mouth is magically transformed in their minds into the Gettysburg Address, I Have a Dream and Ich Bin Ein Berliner all rolled into one. These are the very same people that in one breath are saying that Trump has full immunity and in the next they are saying that Biden should be put up against a wall. There is no way to debate with them.
Has anyone else ever had the misfortune to read back some of Trumps speeches? Try it, it will blow your mind. It would be mad to even suggest that Biden isn't the only one who isn't the full ticket after that. Trouble is that Trump has been the same for 8 years and hasn't deteriorated as much, whereas Biden has visibly gone downhill over the last 4 years. The pressures of the job, the long hours, the constant criticism have all got to take their toll on an elderly person.
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Post by staffordshrew on Jul 22, 2024 14:02:48 GMT 1
O/T 'The pressures of the job, the long hours, the constant criticism have all got to take their toll on an elderly person'. Hopefully RW can delegate the pressure to the CEO, and the long hours. Which just leaves the constant criticism. |
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Post by zenfootball2 on Jul 22, 2024 14:47:24 GMT 1
Right decision from a Democrat point of view because it did look as though all the momentum was with Trump and the Republicans. The Democrats needed to kick start their campaign in some way or another and this looked to be the only option. It removes Biden and all his baggage from the campaign which looking easy meat for the Republicans. Its a whole new race now. As for Harris, she seems to have been kept in the background for the most part but then I understand that tends to happen anyway when you're the vice-president. She has come across OK at times from what I have seen but at others she comes across as awkward, weird and cringeworthy. She was put in charge of the US southern border from what I recall and that's been a complete disaster so expect the Republicans to run with that again and again. She may appeal to a different demographic than Biden of course so there is that, that may help the Democrats (but that would be amongst those who already favour the Democrats I guess and so to what extent, who knows). But we're certainly going to be learning an awful lot more about her in the coming months. Whilst vice presidents tend to have a low profile, Harris had a train wreck interview with NBC in 2022 and is also very unpopular with African Americans after her time as a district attorney. A recent poll voters did rate her a strong leader or trustworthy! Now she has the nomination this may all change. |
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jul 22, 2024 15:19:55 GMT 1
Right decision from a Democrat point of view because it did look as though all the momentum was with Trump and the Republicans. The Democrats needed to kick start their campaign in some way or another and this looked to be the only option. It removes Biden and all his baggage from the campaign which looking easy meat for the Republicans. Its a whole new race now. As for Harris, she seems to have been kept in the background for the most part but then I understand that tends to happen anyway when you're the vice-president. She has come across OK at times from what I have seen but at others she comes across as awkward, weird and cringeworthy. She was put in charge of the US southern border from what I recall and that's been a complete disaster so expect the Republicans to run with that again and again. She may appeal to a different demographic than Biden of course so there is that, that may help the Democrats (but that would be amongst those who already favour the Democrats I guess and so to what extent, who knows). But we're certainly going to be learning an awful lot more about her in the coming months. Whilst vice presidents tend to have a low profile, Harris had a train wreck interview with NBC in 2022 and is also very unpopular with African Americans after her time as a district attorney. She didn't have the best of campaigns in 2020 either when running, I think, to be the Democrat nominee. She dropped out pretty early on. Yet if she does end up as the Democrat candidate then she will have the full force of the party machinery behind her as well an fair chunk of the media (who won't bother to look too much under the bonnet). And we know how that can help; Russians, laptops, etc. And of course it tends to help that candidates these days are voted in for who they're not rather than who they are (although that might be a tad unfair, we wait and see; she may come out firing on all cylinders, put past performances behind her and prove a good few wrong). Mind you, that's if she is to be the candidate. No idea if its been decided as yet. From what is reported there does seem to be a fair amount of unease in the Democrat ranks about how Biden has been sidelined, how there maybe efforts to dissuade others from standing, that it seems to be a select few who are directing things behind the scenes, etc. Scratch that, from a quick look on social media those seen as a potential rival to Harris have all dropped out. So she looks to be a shoe in. |
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