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Post by zenfootball2 on Jun 26, 2024 15:19:38 GMT 1
The council are asking drivers to consider alternate routes, or walk, cycle or use park and ride, this is phase one of eight phases that will run till summer 2025, (as long as they are on schedule)
Expect long queues.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Jun 26, 2024 16:42:39 GMT 1
As a regular sporting cyclist I always have to smile when a council or other suggest that you consider cycling when road schemes are not running quite as good as they normally do.
Tbh there are so many reasons why people dont/wont cycle (some very valid as well as some imaginery). The weather, the traffic, nowhere safe to leave your bike when you get to wherever you are going being just a few of them.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2024 17:02:30 GMT 1
Think this piece of work should make it easier to cycle into town once it’s done, not sure I’d much fancy doing it whilst the works are ongoing though! Best bet is to just avoid the town centre like the plague, seems like a lot going on at the moment, noticed demolition hoardings along Smithfield Road now too.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Jun 26, 2024 17:17:48 GMT 1
Think this piece of work should make it easier to cycle into town once it’s done, not sure I’d much fancy doing it whilst the works are ongoing though! Best bet is to just avoid the town centre like the plague, seems like a lot going on at the moment, noticed demolition hoardings along Smithfield Road now too. I presume this all part of the river center redevelopment, so the demolition of the multi storey car park and buse depo will also be part of this. |
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Post by wakemanender on Jun 26, 2024 18:42:18 GMT 1
I think the council should rehouse everyone in another town while this work is being carried out. It is major disruption for a long time. It's my idea so I will choose to go and stay with Rishi and his family. I will have a little bet and say that this idea will be implemented on 1st August.
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Post by mattmw on Jun 26, 2024 19:30:16 GMT 1
Think this piece of work should make it easier to cycle into town once it’s done, not sure I’d much fancy doing it whilst the works are ongoing though! Best bet is to just avoid the town centre like the plague, seems like a lot going on at the moment, noticed demolition hoardings along Smithfield Road now too. I presume this all part of the river center redevelopment, so the demolition of the multi storey car park and buse depo will also be part of this. The works around the gyratory system and demolition of the old riverside shopping centre and medical practice are part of the a £20 million Levelling Up project in the town which the Council were awarded by the Department for Levelling up, and supported by the local MP. They are two seperate but linked projects www.shropshire.gov.uk/shropshire-council/shrewsbury-levelling-up-funding-bid/The multi story car park and bus station are not part of the project so will remain in use and not being demolished. The station gyratory project is as Feedo says meant to make walking and cycling to the railway station easier and also reduce congestion round the railway bridges on the approach to the station, which are actually the worst air pollution areas in the town. Whilst there will be some disruption its going to be in stages between now and may so will be paused at key stages like Christmas to maintain access around that area. Its hopefully short term pain for long term gain |
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Post by ProudSalopian on Jun 26, 2024 20:43:06 GMT 1
I really feel sorry for whoever runs the council social media pages. There's constant moaning about the state of the town with peeople demanding change and investment. And then when something like this happens, people moan about the traffic chaos the work causes!
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Post by Valerioch on Jun 26, 2024 21:39:28 GMT 1
I really feel sorry for whoever runs the council social media pages. There's constant moaning about the state of the town with peeople demanding change and investment. And then when something like this happens, people moan about the traffic chaos the work causes! It’s must be incredibly tempting to tell the moaning Karen’s where to go… |
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Post by WATR on Jun 26, 2024 21:48:18 GMT 1
I really feel sorry for whoever runs the council social media pages. There's constant moaning about the state of the town with peeople demanding change and investment. And then when something like this happens, people moan about the traffic chaos the work causes! It’s must be incredibly tempting to tell the moaning Karen’s where to go… It’s completely p**sboiling. You can tell that the only way most of commenters’ experience the town centre is by driving through it. |
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Post by The Clash 1966 on Jun 27, 2024 11:13:04 GMT 1
As a regular sporting cyclist I always have to smile when a council or other suggest that you consider cycling when road schemes are not running quite as good as they normally do. Tbh there are so many reasons why people dont/wont cycle (some very valid as well as some imaginery). The weather, the traffic, nowhere safe to leave your bike when you get to wherever you are going being just a few of them. errr i cant ride a bike 🥺 |
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Post by iestywfc on Jun 27, 2024 11:17:40 GMT 1
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Jun 27, 2024 11:30:09 GMT 1
But unfortunately not in a million years is it ever going to be used by a big percentage of the population. Its basically ticking boxes "oh look we are being green", the majority of the population just get on with whatever they are left with thinking "what a waste of time and money inconveniencing us in doing it". And I say this even as a regular cyclist myself. As in my earlier post although I ride a bike often I'd never think of using it to ride into the centre of Shrewsbury (or any other town). |
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Post by iestywfc on Jun 27, 2024 11:45:41 GMT 1
But unfortunately not in a million years is it ever going to be used by a big percentage of the population. Its basically ticking boxes "oh look we are being green", the majority of the population just get on with whatever they are left with thinking "what a waste of time and money inconveniencing us in doing it". And I say this even as a regular cyclist myself. As in my earlier post although I ride a bike often I'd never think of using it to ride into the centre of Shrewsbury (or any other town). I agree. It is also Pedestrian routes they are considering. The emphasis is that they want less cars in the town centres, which unfortunately will have implications further out of the centre itself with congestion etc. Going back specifically to the train gyratory improvements, this is all about taking the influx of train passengers and improving their journey into the town centre- the amount of people you see at the exit to the station not knowing where they need to walk is silly |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2024 13:25:23 GMT 1
I have an appointment on St Michael's Street and travel from Welshpool direction.
I don't cycle!!!
Any thoughts on my best route in?
Thanks in advance.
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Post by The Shropshire Tenor on Jun 27, 2024 14:01:05 GMT 1
I have an appointment on St Michael's Street and travel from Welshpool direction. I don't cycle!!! Any thoughts on my best route in? Thanks in advance. Drive around the bypass and approach via Ditherington? I’d park at Frankwell and walk from there but I don’t know how mobile you are. |
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Post by zenfootball2 on Jun 27, 2024 14:53:03 GMT 1
I really feel sorry for whoever runs the council social media pages. There's constant moaning about the state of the town with peeople demanding change and investment. And then when something like this happens, people moan about the traffic chaos the work causes! Yep you can't please all the people all the time |
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Post by zenfootball2 on Jun 27, 2024 15:02:51 GMT 1
I presume this all part of the river center redevelopment, so the demolition of the multi storey car park and buse depo will also be part of this. The works around the gyratory system and demolition of the old riverside shopping centre and medical practice are part of the a £20 million Levelling Up project in the town which the Council were awarded by the Department for Levelling up, and supported by the local MP. They are two seperate but linked projects www.shropshire.gov.uk/shropshire-council/shrewsbury-levelling-up-funding-bid/The multi story car park and bus station are not part of the project so will remain in use and not being demolished. The station gyratory project is as Feedo says meant to make walking and cycling to the railway station easier and also reduce congestion round the railway bridges on the approach to the station, which are actually the worst air pollution areas in the town. Whilst there will be some disruption its going to be in stages between now and may so will be paused at key stages like Christmas to maintain access around that area. Its hopefully short term pain for long term gain Thanks. For that |
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Post by zenfootball2 on Jun 27, 2024 15:07:36 GMT 1
It will be interesting to see what are the current numbers of people who walk or cycle into town and what are the numbers five years after the project.
If you make it more difficult for cars to come into key areas of town the pollution levels will go down, but will it mean people will suddenly change to walking and cycling.
If funding was available. I would like to see a shift to electric buses and a much better service, including more late night services jnto town centre
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Post by zenfootball2 on Jun 27, 2024 15:13:53 GMT 1
When I worked for the NHS we were based near shirehall, we moved to the hub near the sports center, they really wanted staff to walk to work or cycle, staff had the chance to get cheap loans to purchase a cycle
Out of all the staff only one person cycled to work,
As for this schem I live near the hospital so I tend to walk into town and use the bus back.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2024 15:56:41 GMT 1
As a town centre resident the plan seems to be the wrong way around.
Surely the first thing you need to do is to persuade car drivers to take an alternative route rather than cause more pollution in the station area by setting up long term road works.
I would place retractable bollards,like they have in Chester,across the total width of Smithfield Road, Raven Meadows and at the bottom of Castle Street with plenty of signage to advise that the town centre is a no through route. Would probably take a large percentage of the traffic out of the town centre and enable the demolition of the Riverside to be completed faster.
We also need the NWRR to be built asap,
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Post by iestywfc on Jun 27, 2024 16:13:23 GMT 1
what is this madness, someone IN FAVOUR of the NWRR?!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2024 16:19:07 GMT 1
what is this madness, someone IN FAVOUR of the NWRR?! 😁 Absolutely,the more traffic we can get out of the town centre the better. |
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Post by davycrockett on Jun 27, 2024 16:21:00 GMT 1
what is this madness, someone IN FAVOUR of the NWRR?! You must live in Shropshire but not Shrewsbury? |
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Post by servernaside on Jun 27, 2024 16:21:54 GMT 1
I think the council should rehouse everyone in another town while this work is being carried out. It is major disruption for a long time. It's my idea so I will choose to go and stay with Rishi and his family. I will have a little bet and say that this idea will be implemented on 1st August. Ah ! but it could be completely cancelled like HS2 |
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Post by ProudSalopian on Jun 27, 2024 16:22:48 GMT 1
what is this madness, someone IN FAVOUR of the NWRR?! Purely anecdotal I know but everyone I know and speak to are in favour of it and just want it done |
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Post by servernaside on Jun 27, 2024 16:23:03 GMT 1
As a town centre resident the plan seems to be the wrong way around. Surely the first thing you need to do is to persuade car drivers to take an alternative route rather than cause more pollution in the station area by setting up long term road works. I would place retractable bollards,like they have in Chester,across the total width of Smithfield Road, Raven Meadows and at the bottom of Castle Street with plenty of signage to advise that the town centre is a no through route. Would probably take a large percentage of the traffic out of the town centre and enable the demolition of the Riverside to be completed faster. We also need the NWRR to be built asap, Cart before the horse idea, I'm afraid. Good job you're not in charge. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2024 16:27:23 GMT 1
As a town centre resident the plan seems to be the wrong way around. Surely the first thing you need to do is to persuade car drivers to take an alternative route rather than cause more pollution in the station area by setting up long term road works. I would place retractable bollards,like they have in Chester,across the total width of Smithfield Road, Raven Meadows and at the bottom of Castle Street with plenty of signage to advise that the town centre is a no through route. Would probably take a large percentage of the traffic out of the town centre and enable the demolition of the Riverside to be completed faster. We also need the NWRR to be built asap, Cart before the horse idea, I'm afraid. Good job you're not in charge. Explain ?.. not that it matters as this is nothing more than a hyperthetical discussion |
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Post by iestywfc on Jun 28, 2024 9:25:40 GMT 1
what is this madness, someone IN FAVOUR of the NWRR?! You must live in Shropshire but not Shrewsbury? North Shropshire I am all for the NWRR and can't understand why people think its a bad idea otherwise |
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Jun 28, 2024 13:00:11 GMT 1
You must live in Shropshire but not Shrewsbury? North Shropshire I am all for the NWRR and can't understand why people think its a bad idea otherwise It's much needed and has been for 30 years since the rest of the by pass was built. It WILL happen in the future sometime so why delay the inevitable. |
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Post by venceremos on Jun 28, 2024 13:27:22 GMT 1
what is this madness, someone IN FAVOUR of the NWRR?! Purely anecdotal I know but everyone I know and speak to are in favour of it and just want it done I'm in North Shropshire and I'm not convinced it's worth the money. I'm not wholly against it either but new roads destroy environments and attract more traffic. I can appreciate it would be better for Shrewsbury town centre if the traffic volume there was reduced but, apart from having my doubts that it would make as big a difference there as some claim, increased traffic volumes and speeds north of the town don't appeal to me. The idea has been around for so long now that I'd want to see a current cost/benefit and environmental analysis. Is there one? |
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