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Post by dachshund on Jun 24, 2024 16:12:37 GMT 1
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Post by barrynic on Jun 24, 2024 16:18:09 GMT 1
Seems like Mr Hurst is very much in charge now....just hope he doesn't walk before the season starts??
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2024 16:26:47 GMT 1
I reckon within a week of being here Hurst will have made the decision that he didn’t want Idowu to be playing any part in this season.
So far short of league one standard you have to really question the signing.
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Post by davycrockett on Jun 24, 2024 16:49:54 GMT 1
We were due an MM update a couple of weeks ago so maybe we’ll find out more soon.
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Post by Pilch on Jun 24, 2024 17:05:39 GMT 1
are we not doing exactly what many have been crying out for ? taking a chance on signing younger players, then sending them out on loan to gain experience if they are not ready we are Chelsea in disguise ;-) I guess what the fans really wanted is for us to only sign hidden gems 100% of the time |
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Post by gtismygod on Jun 24, 2024 17:08:07 GMT 1
The average man on the street would be sacked if they were as bad at their job as Mickey Moore is at his. How much of the club’s money has he wasted?
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Post by hectord0g137 on Jun 24, 2024 17:20:57 GMT 1
Many top players were signed young then sent out on loan. Kane,Grealish,Godfrey,didn't do their progress any harm. This won't be the last of Idowu. I rate him . Maybe we cod make a bob or two like the other clubs did some at our expense
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Post by bizzylad on Jun 24, 2024 17:30:42 GMT 1
Not shocked in the slightest by this and can still see Taylor Perry being shipped out ( imcoming signings permitted ) by the end of August.
Sadly cant see Idowu being a regular at St Mirren , a move to a National League side would have been better i feel .
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Post by ProudSalopian on Jun 24, 2024 17:34:23 GMT 1
are we not doing exactly what many have been crying out for ? taking a chance on signing younger players, then sending them out on loan to gain experience if they are not ready I If we are doing that then that's fine. However, we could be loaning him out because Hurst thinks he's not good enough but he's under contract and no other club will sign him/pay his wages so a loan is the only way we can get some of the wages paid. I'd also say that if we are doing what you are suggesting, it seems a pretty strange move to spend money on a player and send him out on loan 6 months later. For most clubs that's nothing particularly unusual, however for a club who are skint and where the chairman is paying wages out of his own pocket, well it seems a bit of a luxury. |
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Post by Pilch on Jun 24, 2024 17:34:44 GMT 1
The average man on the street would be sacked if they were as bad at their job as Mickey Moore is at his. How much of the club’s money has he wasted? Due to the amount of money a previous guy wasted , MM has only had loose change to start with , it's about time we stopped being totally ignorant as to why we ended up in this position , we all know why , get used to it and deal with it 👍 |
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Post by ProudSalopian on Jun 24, 2024 17:36:08 GMT 1
The average man on the street would be sacked if they were as bad at their job as Mickey Moore is at his. How much of the club’s money has he wasted? Due to the amount of money a previous guy wasted , MM has only had loose change to start with , it's about time we stopped being totally ignorant as to why we ended up in this position , we all know why , get used to it and deal with it 👍 We've long accepted the reasons. We are just pointing out that he's wasted the little cash he has to play with |
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Post by Pilch on Jun 24, 2024 17:36:45 GMT 1
are we not doing exactly what many have been crying out for ? taking a chance on signing younger players, then sending them out on loan to gain experience if they are not ready I If we are doing that then that's fine. However, we could be loaning him out because Hurst thinks he's not good enough but he's under contract and no other club will sign him/pay his wages so a loan is the only way we can get some of the wages paid. I'd also say that if we are doing what you are suggesting, it seems a pretty strange move to spend money on a player and send him out on loan 6 months later. For most clubs that's nothing particularly unusual, however for a club who are skint and where the chairman is paying wages out of his own pocket, well it seems a bit of a luxury. Welcome to lower league football |
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Post by Pilch on Jun 24, 2024 17:37:46 GMT 1
Due to the amount of money a previous guy wasted , MM has only had loose change to start with , it's about time we stopped being totally ignorant as to why we ended up in this position , we all know why , get used to it and deal with it 👍 We've long accepted the reasons. We are just pointing out that he's wasted the little cash he has to play with We sold a player last week , maybe we can pretend MM didn't sign him 😝 |
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Post by Rusholme Ruffian on Jun 24, 2024 17:46:14 GMT 1
Well if he isn't wanted, then ship him out. As much as it's frustrating that much of the signings aren't deemed good enough, at least they are not staying doing nothing.
Getting rid of Mata, Idowu and Sraha is fairly efficient considering the time. Makes space for players that the management wants you hope.
Plenty of time still for incomings, although I do suspect the team on day 1 of league season will still be a fair few shy, especially the loans. When's pre season start - going to need some triallists in to make up the numbers.
11 now under contract I think
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Post by Valerioch on Jun 24, 2024 17:58:01 GMT 1
One of the worst players to grace the shirt in many years, so far out of his depth it was unreal
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Post by hectord0g137 on Jun 24, 2024 18:01:17 GMT 1
That good then
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2024 18:19:47 GMT 1
Feel a little sorry for the guy as he's only been here six months, then again. Did he really play 10 times, I can only remember him coming on against Wrexham and Exeter.
Meanwhile another player down in the squad.
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Post by pughywasfree on Jun 24, 2024 18:30:27 GMT 1
Seems like Mr Hurst is very much in charge now....just hope he doesn't walk before the season starts?? How does this move suggest Hurst is very much in charge? This is Hurst's last chance in the football league unless he has some success imo, so he would be a fool to walk. |
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Post by belfastshrew on Jun 24, 2024 18:33:13 GMT 1
Anyone any the wiser to Hursts' contract?
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Post by pughywasfree on Jun 24, 2024 18:38:09 GMT 1
are we not doing exactly what many have been crying out for ? taking a chance on signing younger players, then sending them out on loan to gain experience if they are not ready I If we are doing that then that's fine. However, we could be loaning him out because Hurst thinks he's not good enough but he's under contract and no other club will sign him/pay his wages so a loan is the only way we can get some of the wages paid. I'd also say that if we are doing what you are suggesting, it seems a pretty strange move to spend money on a player and send him out on loan 6 months later. For most clubs that's nothing particularly unusual, however for a club who are skint and where the chairman is paying wages out of his own pocket, well it seems a bit of a luxury. I highly doubt that was the initial thought process but these types of signing are always a risk. He could have been a hit and we found a gem on the cheap or he might need more development. It's the risk you take. We've signed enough deadwood that were over the hill. It's a refreshing change to have a play that could possibly improve. Give me 10 Idowu's over 1 O'Brian every day of the week. |
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Post by chirkshrew on Jun 24, 2024 18:56:45 GMT 1
But it's funny how Lincolns 2/3 league of Ireland players hit the ground running....one of em was scoring for fun at one time!!!🤔🤔🤔
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Post by llanymynechshrew on Jun 24, 2024 19:20:43 GMT 1
Well if he isn't wanted, then ship him out. As much as it's frustrating that much of the signings aren't deemed good enough, at least they are not staying doing nothing. Getting rid of Mata, Idowu and Sraha is fairly efficient considering the time. Makes space for players that the management wants you hope. Plenty of time still for incomings, although I do suspect the team on day 1 of league season will still be a fair few shy, especially the loans. When's pre season start - going to need some triallists in to make up the numbers. 11 now under contract I think We have a team if we play a defender in goal.  GOALKEEPERS None DEFENDERS George Nurse Morgan Feeney Mal Benning Aaron Pierre Toto Nsiala MIDFIELDERS Jordan Shipley Harrison Biggins Carl Winchester Taylor Perry STRIKERS Tom Bloxham George Lloyd |
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Post by chirkshrew on Jun 24, 2024 19:32:56 GMT 1
Keep the faith monners.. it will be sorted, especially when the end of June, beginning of July comes around.....plenty of coming and goings then
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Post by ProudSalopian on Jun 24, 2024 20:19:00 GMT 1
If we are doing that then that's fine. However, we could be loaning him out because Hurst thinks he's not good enough but he's under contract and no other club will sign him/pay his wages so a loan is the only way we can get some of the wages paid. I'd also say that if we are doing what you are suggesting, it seems a pretty strange move to spend money on a player and send him out on loan 6 months later. For most clubs that's nothing particularly unusual, however for a club who are skint and where the chairman is paying wages out of his own pocket, well it seems a bit of a luxury. I highly doubt that was the initial thought process but these types of signing are always a risk. He could have been a hit and we found a gem on the cheap or he might need more development. It's the risk you take. We've signed enough deadwood that were over the hill. It's a refreshing change to have a play that could possibly improve. Give me 10 Idowu's over 1 O'Brian every day of the week. Of course it's not the thought process which is why I find it funny seeing people trying to defend this dud of a signing with claims we are sending him out on loan thinking it's all part of the master plan. And no one expects Moore to get every signing right but the recruitment last season was awful which is why Hurst is now doing what he can to get of them. |
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Post by Pilch on Jun 24, 2024 20:37:02 GMT 1
I highly doubt that was the initial thought process but these types of signing are always a risk. He could have been a hit and we found a gem on the cheap or he might need more development. It's the risk you take. We've signed enough deadwood that were over the hill. It's a refreshing change to have a play that could possibly improve. Give me 10 Idowu's over 1 O'Brian every day of the week. Of course it's not the thought process which is why I find it funny seeing people trying to defend this dud of a signing with claims we are sending him out on loan thinking it's all part of the master plan. And no one expects Moore to get every signing right but the recruitment last season was awful which is why Hurst is now doing what he can to get of them. he just needs a bigger budget really , bit like the last guy had |
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Post by filmcrewshrew1 on Jun 24, 2024 21:03:17 GMT 1
Thank fook for that!!! Headless chicken springs to mind…
Says everything about Mickey Mouse’s recruitment knowledge.
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Post by Pilch on Jun 24, 2024 21:10:45 GMT 1
Thank flip for that!!! Headless chicken springs to mind… Says everything about Mickey Mouse’s recruitment knowledge. Or his budget |
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Post by pughywasfree on Jun 25, 2024 16:56:58 GMT 1
I highly doubt that was the initial thought process but these types of signing are always a risk. He could have been a hit and we found a gem on the cheap or he might need more development. It's the risk you take. We've signed enough deadwood that were over the hill. It's a refreshing change to have a play that could possibly improve. Give me 10 Idowu's over 1 O'Brian every day of the week. Of course it's not the thought process which is why I find it funny seeing people trying to defend this dud of a signing with claims we are sending him out on loan thinking it's all part of the master plan. And no one expects Moore to get every signing right but the recruitment last season was awful which is why Hurst is now doing what he can to get of them. I liked the signing of Mata, It could have very easily worked out if the team were able to supply him with any sort of service. I don't think he had a fair crack with decent tactics. The loan signings were of decent quality but unfortunately they were unable to make an impact due to injuries. Feeney and Benning can be classed as successful signings imo. The last two windows were restricted by having the majority of the players already under contract on high wages not leaving a lot left. I don't understand the hate directed towards Moore. I have not seen any evidence that he has done anything other than do his best. None of us know what level of involvement he has in things yet he gets judged as a failure from little evidence. It's worth remembering he came to us with a decent track record at Cheltenham whilst working with tight budgets. |
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Post by northwestman on Jun 25, 2024 18:15:47 GMT 1
I don't understand the hate directed towards Moore. I have not seen any evidence that he has done anything other than do his best. None of us know what level of involvement he has in things yet he gets judged as a failure from little evidence. It's worth remembering he came to us with a decent track record at Cheltenham whilst working with tight budgets. And what happened to Cheltenham at the end of last season? |
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Post by hectord0g137 on Jun 25, 2024 18:48:38 GMT 1
Moore left.......Cheltenham got relegated. Some correlation there me finks
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