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Post by tarporleyblue on May 16, 2024 11:03:45 GMT 1
What about Birmingham City ? is there any reason youve not included them ? But it doesn't change the fact that our current chairman has struggled to find investment. For 10 years and counting....
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Post by Pilch on May 16, 2024 11:10:09 GMT 1
But it doesn't change the fact that our current chairman has struggled to find investment. For 10 years and counting.... the 2nd best 10 years on the pitch in our existence
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Post by hectord0g137 on May 16, 2024 11:20:37 GMT 1
Can I be the only one who is worried about my football team when Roland sells ? I am actually dreading the possibility of asset stripping and the entitled success mentality that will follow
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Post by armchairfan on May 16, 2024 11:23:50 GMT 1
For 10 years and counting.... the 2nd best 10 years on the pitch in our existence Quite possibly...which makes it all the more surprising/worrying that greater investment has not materialised, whether through a change in ownership or other means.
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Post by Pilch on May 16, 2024 11:25:04 GMT 1
Can I be the only one who is worried about my football team when Roland sells ? I am actually dreading the possibility of asset stripping and the entitled success mentality that will follow shhh, just stick to the dreams side of a take over for what its worth, when I spoke to the chairman recently he said there have had people from all over the world make enquiries, Arabs, Chinese and many others, and almost all start the conversation with the questions, "exactly what assets do you have and how much profit do you make ? " so no, you are not the only one with your eyes open
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Post by ProudSalopian on May 16, 2024 11:32:28 GMT 1
Can I be the only one who is worried about my football team when Roland sells ? I am actually dreading the possibility of asset stripping and the entitled success mentality that will follow No you won't be the only one, I've got no doubt there will be some fans who are very nervous about what the future holds if we sell. As I've said its a massive unknown and could go very wrong, it could also very right, or it could just be more of the same. Personally, I've been frustrated about where the club has been heading for a while now and I'm now very worried about my football team because we have a 2 man board, headed by an 82 year old man and we have no succession plan in place.
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Post by tarporleyblue on May 16, 2024 11:33:03 GMT 1
the 2nd best 10 years on the pitch in our existence Quite possibly...which makes it all the more surprising/worrying that greater investment has not materialised, whether through a change in ownership or other means. Very true.
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Post by tarporleyblue on May 16, 2024 11:37:40 GMT 1
Can I be the only one who is worried about my football team when Roland sells ? I am actually dreading the possibility of asset stripping and the entitled success mentality that will follow shhh, just stick to the dreams side of a take over for what its worth, when I spoke to the chairman recently he said there have had people from all over the world make enquiries, Arabs, Chinese and many others, and almost all start the conversation with the questions, "exactly what assets do you have and how much profit do you make ? " so no, you are not the only one with your eyes open Health warning: take with a pinch of salt
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Post by suttonshrew on May 16, 2024 11:52:57 GMT 1
Can I be the only one who is worried about my football team when Roland sells ? I am actually dreading the possibility of asset stripping and the entitled success mentality that will follow No you aren't the only one. I'm hoping that the pressure on the chairman financially doesn't mean the standards of what he expects from a buyer drops. Its one of the reasons i remain involved as much as possible, because i worry about what comes next. That said there are vehicles to protect the club and i know there are a few of us who, if push came to shove, would have no issues with implementing those safeguards. Before i get called in for a coffee thats in no way a threat to the current chairman as he does have the clubs interests at heart, but we have to be open to what comes next
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Post by armchairfan on May 16, 2024 12:42:43 GMT 1
Surely enquiries as to a company's assets, liabilities and profitability form part of a " due diligence" exercise, and should not, IN THEMSELVES, be a basis for concern.....it is what is done by prospective buyers that is important.
I shall keep repeating that the fear of making the wrong decision should not prevent a decision being taken: in making, it is said, the decision to sell, Mr Wycherley has literally asked for enquiries, so none of us should be surprised; I say again that I agree with that decision, so on to the next stage.
Of course, I am as concerned as anyone that things may go horribly wrong, but that is the thing about ANY decision in the real world - the final outcome is unknowable.
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Post by Pilch on May 16, 2024 13:10:10 GMT 1
shhh, just stick to the dreams side of a take over for what its worth, when I spoke to the chairman recently he said there have had people from all over the world make enquiries, Arabs, Chinese and many others, and almost all start the conversation with the questions, "exactly what assets do you have and how much profit do you make ? " so no, you are not the only one with your eyes open Health warning: take with a pinch of salt please explain that ?
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Post by Pilch on May 16, 2024 13:13:41 GMT 1
Surely enquiries as to a company's assets, liabilities and profitability form part of a " due diligence" exercise, and should not, IN THEMSELVES, be a basis for concern.....it is what is done by prospective buyers that is important. I shall keep repeating keep SHOUTING more like ( I have messaged the individual about it )
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Post by tarporleyblue on May 16, 2024 13:19:25 GMT 1
Health warning: take with a pinch of salt please explain that ? No need. People on this board can make their own minds up as to where the truth lies.
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Post by Pilch on May 16, 2024 13:21:08 GMT 1
No need. People on this board can make their own minds up as to where the truth lies. you were accusing me of lying ? well up yours I say as it was 100% true
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Post by tarporleyblue on May 16, 2024 13:23:15 GMT 1
No need. People on this board can make their own minds up as to where the truth lies. you were accusing me of lying ? well up yours I say as it was 100% true Touchy.
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Post by Pilch on May 16, 2024 13:26:54 GMT 1
you were accusing me of lying ? well up yours I say as it was 100% true Touchy. to damn right im touchy
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Post by armchairfan on May 16, 2024 14:05:07 GMT 1
Surely enquiries as to a company's assets, liabilities and profitability form part of a " due diligence" exercise, and should not, IN THEMSELVES, be a basis for concern.....it is what is done by prospective buyers that is important. I shall keep repeating keep SHOUTING more like ( I have messaged the individual about it ) To which I have responded - the exchange of PMs continues!
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Post by shrewswolf on May 16, 2024 14:14:10 GMT 1
I agree Blackpool is a poor comparison and historically a far bigger club than us, same goes for Luton. Although I'd say Bournemouth and Wrexham are a fair comparison and shows what could happen if someone were to throw a load of money at at small club. But what about Wycombe? Previously American owned, now owned by a Kazakhstani billionaire Or how about Carlisle? Now American owned Or how about Bristol Rovers? Owned by Jordanian based businessman Or how about Lincoln? Recently had investment from Americans Or how about Northampton? Recently had investment from a Jersey based businesman Or how about Cambridge? A few years ago they had investment from America This is just what I found out from a few minutes of googling. I'm sure there are lots of other stories of clubs getting investment across the football league and non league, whether thats international sources or local businessman. Yet we haven't been able to find a single person/company willing to invest in us? What about Birmingham City ? is there any reason youve not included them ? they are the perfect example of a new owner coming in with nothing but ambition Last July new owners over the longest standing club the championship , started the season off well and then made the ambitiious move of splashing out on a new manager to help take them onto the next stage of their journey It worked alright 😝 That's what our fans want isn't it ? New owners www.bbc.com/sport/football/66192434.ampBirmingham City Co-Owner and Chairman of the Board, Tom Wagner said: “Wayne is a born winner. We believe, with the support of his coaching staff, the Club, and our supporters, he will take Blues forward on the next stage of our journey. His playing philosophy will help to realise the ambitions we have set for Birmingham City. It only takes a very quick trawl of social media to see that Birmingham fans have taken their relegation way better than recent big clubs who came tumbling down here. The general tone of them seems to be that they are absolutely delighted with the new owners and full of optimism because of them, despite coming down. I’m not sure what that means but thought it was interesting when reading it nonetheless. I guess their communication with fans, long term investment plans etc are worth a lot to match going fans.
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Post by davycrockett on May 16, 2024 14:15:43 GMT 1
The comedy show continues😂
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Post by armchairfan on May 16, 2024 14:22:16 GMT 1
The comedy show continues😂 ...in the absence of jollity and laughter.
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Post by Pilch on May 16, 2024 15:16:16 GMT 1
What about Birmingham City ? is there any reason youve not included them ? they are the perfect example of a new owner coming in with nothing but ambition Last July new owners over the longest standing club the championship , started the season off well and then made the ambitiious move of splashing out on a new manager to help take them onto the next stage of their journey It worked alright 😝 That's what our fans want isn't it ? New owners www.bbc.com/sport/football/66192434.ampBirmingham City Co-Owner and Chairman of the Board, Tom Wagner said: “Wayne is a born winner. We believe, with the support of his coaching staff, the Club, and our supporters, he will take Blues forward on the next stage of our journey. His playing philosophy will help to realise the ambitions we have set for Birmingham City. It only takes a very quick trawl of social media to see that Birmingham fans have taken their relegation way better than recent big clubs who came tumbling down here. The general tone of them seems to be that they are absolutely delighted with the new owners and full of optimism because of them, despite coming down. I’m not sure what that means but thought it was interesting when reading it nonetheless. I guess their communication with fans, long term investment plans etc are worth a lot to match going fans. well when these Americans take over any day now as predicted, lets hope if we are in a play off spot come November they sack hurst and replace him with Wayne Rooney who promptly takes us to league 2 at least it will left the tone around here ;-)
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Post by armchairfan on May 16, 2024 16:22:24 GMT 1
It only takes a very quick trawl of social media to see that Birmingham fans have taken their relegation way better than recent big clubs who came tumbling down here. The general tone of them seems to be that they are absolutely delighted with the new owners and full of optimism because of them, despite coming down. I’m not sure what that means but thought it was interesting when reading it nonetheless. I guess their communication with fans, long term investment plans etc are worth a lot to match going fans. well when these Americans take over any day now as predicted, lets hope if we are in a play off spot come November they sack hurst and replace him with Wayne Rooney who promptly takes us to league 2 at least it will left the tone around here ;-) Ye gods, is there no end to your negativity! Your opinion as to what may, or may not, lie in the future of STFC is iredeemably gloomy; your assessment may be justifiable, but by no means certain - the future is a tad difficult to predict with any accuracy. Please retain your pessimism, nonetheless - it keeps us all mindful of possible pitfalls!
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Post by dibblydobbly on May 16, 2024 18:22:39 GMT 1
well when these Americans take over any day now as predicted, lets hope if we are in a play off spot come November they sack hurst and replace him with Wayne Rooney who promptly takes us to league 2 at least it will left the tone around here ;-) Ye gods, is there no end to your negativity! Your opinion as to what may, or may not, lie in the future of STFC is iredeemably gloomy; your assessment may be justifiable, but by no means certain - the future is a tad difficult to predict with any accuracy. Please retain your pessimism, nonetheless - it keeps us all mindful of possible pitfalls! I must be thick, I though Pilch was being sarcastic/jocular/fishing, but who knows?
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Post by armchairfan on May 16, 2024 18:32:52 GMT 1
Ye gods, is there no end to your negativity! Your opinion as to what may, or may not, lie in the future of STFC is iredeemably gloomy; your assessment may be justifiable, but by no means certain - the future is a tad difficult to predict with any accuracy. Please retain your pessimism, nonetheless - it keeps us all mindful of possible pitfalls! I must be thick, I though Pilch was being sarcastic/jocular/fishing, but who knows? I doubt very much that you are "thick", and you may be right....as you say, who knows! The problem we all have is that we can only respond to the actual words in the absence of a sort of "health warning"
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Post by Pilch on May 16, 2024 18:47:15 GMT 1
Ye gods, is there no end to your negativity! Your opinion as to what may, or may not, lie in the future of STFC is iredeemably gloomy; your assessment may be justifiable, but by no means certain - the future is a tad difficult to predict with any accuracy. Please retain your pessimism, nonetheless - it keeps us all mindful of possible pitfalls! I must be thick, I though Pilch was being sarcastic/jocular/fishing, but who knows? You read me like a book 😀 👍 🎣
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Post by stuttgartershrew on May 17, 2024 6:29:57 GMT 1
Just imagine it did work out OK, we did get some new ownership or investment and we started to improve and start troubling the play offs on a regular basis. Imagine the meltdown on here.
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Post by neilsalop on May 17, 2024 6:31:27 GMT 1
Ye gods, is there no end to your negativity! Your opinion as to what may, or may not, lie in the future of STFC is iredeemably gloomy; your assessment may be justifiable, but by no means certain - the future is a tad difficult to predict with any accuracy. Please retain your pessimism, nonetheless - it keeps us all mindful of possible pitfalls! I must be thick, I though Pilch was being sarcastic/jocular/fishing, but who knows? That's the problem with our illustrious leader. He is great at playing Devil's Advocate, but rarely do we see him expressing his real opinions. He'll watch a thread for a bit, decide which way it's going and then pipe up for the other side just for s##ts and giggles or to cause arguments. Hey ho, little things...
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Post by Pilch on May 17, 2024 8:47:43 GMT 1
I must be thick, I though Pilch was being sarcastic/jocular/fishing, but who knows? That's the problem with our illustrious leader. He is great at playing Devil's Advocate, but rarely do we see him expressing his real opinions. He'll watch a thread for a bit, decide which way it's going and then pipe up for the other side just for s##ts and giggles or to cause arguments. Hey ho, little things... oh you mean put forward the minority opinion just so everyone realises things might not go the way they want them and as I keep saying the minority opinion isn't allowed on here what we have learnt on this thread it's ok for some fans to criticise fellow town fans if they think their support isn't as ambitious as theirs but it's not ok for those being criticised to counter challenge them why , because they are the minority
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Post by secretshrew on May 17, 2024 9:03:21 GMT 1
Scrolls down to see if there are any actual rumours on players just to see arguments/bickering … we’re officially in off-season!
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Post by ProudSalopian on May 17, 2024 9:07:33 GMT 1
Scrolls down to see if there are any actual rumours on players just to see arguments/bickering … we’re officially in off-season! To be fair, it can be like this during the middle of a season!
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