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Post by Pilch on May 11, 2024 11:32:21 GMT 1
just for a bit of fun with most threads putting our chairman in the spotlight, I thought I have a closer look at how we have developed over the years
im just counting the 4 most important stats from each season and producing the...
Average league position Average FA CUP Progress Average League Cup Progress Average Attendance
1st decade
15.4th in League 2 FA Cup Round 1.5 League Cup Round 1.1 Average Attendance 3737
2nd decade
3.9th in League 2 FA Cup Round 1.7 League Cup Round 1.8 Average Attendance 5525
current decade ( 8 years )
15th League 1 FA Cup Round 3.125 League Cup Round 1.375 Average Attendance 6176
not to shabby as far as progress goes ;-)
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Post by dachshund on May 11, 2024 11:46:15 GMT 1
Genuine question and not intended to start silliness.
What’s his estimated net position on each of those decades? He’s putting ‘his own’ money in right now but what’s the best estimate of the overall picture?
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Post by Pilch on May 11, 2024 11:48:33 GMT 1
Genuine question and not intended to start silliness. What’s his estimated net position on each of those decades? He’s putting ‘his own’ money in right now but what’s the best estimate of the overall picture? no idea
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Post by tarporleyblue on May 11, 2024 11:53:41 GMT 1
The upturn was very much down to the move to the new ground.
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Post by tarporleyblue on May 11, 2024 11:55:23 GMT 1
Genuine question and not intended to start silliness. What’s his estimated net position on each of those decades? He’s putting ‘his own’ money in right now but what’s the best estimate of the overall picture? You would have to trawl back through all the annual accounts for that type of info.
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Post by belfastshrew on May 11, 2024 12:59:46 GMT 1
Its clear we have made progress generally over the decades. People are afraid we have stalled a bit and are in fear of seeing regression.
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Post by akpaakpost on May 11, 2024 13:22:06 GMT 1
just for a bit of fun with most threads putting our chairman in the spotlight, I thought I have a closer look at how we have developed over the years im just counting the 4 most important stats from each season and producing the... Average league position Average FA CUP Progress Average League Cup Progress Average Attendance
1st decade 15.4th in League 2 FA Cup Round 1.5 League Cup Round 1.1 Average Attendance 3737 2nd decade 3.9th in League 2 FA Cup Round 1.7 League Cup Round 1.8 Average Attendance 5525 current decade ( 8 years ) 15th League 1 FA Cup Round 3.125 League Cup Round 1.375 Average Attendance 6176 not to shabby as far as progress goes ;-) The more you post the more I think you’re actually a Roland burner account
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Post by Pilch on May 11, 2024 13:36:02 GMT 1
just for a bit of fun with most threads putting our chairman in the spotlight, I thought I have a closer look at how we have developed over the years im just counting the 4 most important stats from each season and producing the... Average league position Average FA CUP Progress Average League Cup Progress Average Attendance
1st decade 15.4th in League 2 FA Cup Round 1.5 League Cup Round 1.1 Average Attendance 3737 2nd decade 3.9th in League 2 FA Cup Round 1.7 League Cup Round 1.8 Average Attendance 5525 current decade ( 8 years ) 15th League 1 FA Cup Round 3.125 League Cup Round 1.375 Average Attendance 6176 not to shabby as far as progress goes ;-) The more you post the more I think you’re actually a Roland burner account Zzzzzzzzzzzz The more you post the more I think you're a Wrexham fan
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Post by davycrockett on May 11, 2024 16:20:55 GMT 1
Genuine question and not intended to start silliness. What’s his estimated net position on each of those decades? He’s putting ‘his own’ money in right now but what’s the best estimate of the overall picture? Whilst no one knows the exact amounts figures have been bounced about that don’t differ too much and haven’t been confirmed or denied. Initial investment to clear debts and start the rebuild £2/300K After the initial investment no further amounts were put in except upto £80k to secure Grandison’s second coming. (Reported that the chairman had covered this) The only other injections have been in the last 2 seasons rumoured from a source close to RW as just over £2 million. He hasn’t taken a wage or dividends but did benefit from his gift of the training ground to the tune of £400,000k plus (In share value) but the club go5a training ground (it was already using)
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Post by SamHarvey on May 11, 2024 17:12:37 GMT 1
just for a bit of fun with most threads putting our chairman in the spotlight, I thought I have a closer look at how we have developed over the years im just counting the 4 most important stats from each season and producing the... Average league position Average FA CUP Progress Average League Cup Progress Average Attendance
1st decade 15.4th in League 2 FA Cup Round 1.5 League Cup Round 1.1 Average Attendance 3737 2nd decade 3.9th in League 2 FA Cup Round 1.7 League Cup Round 1.8 Average Attendance 5525 current decade ( 8 years ) 15th League 1 FA Cup Round 3.125 League Cup Round 1.375 Average Attendance 6176 not to shabby as far as progress goes ;-) That's actually quite interesting. Nice to see how we've progressed in the FA cup other the last few seasons. Third rounds were a rare thing when I was growing up supporting Town. I would look on with envy at other football league sides having big ties. Whereas that has become expected for us in recent years. Also shows the opportunity for growth. Thanks for sharing
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Post by pughywasfree on May 11, 2024 18:09:17 GMT 1
just for a bit of fun with most threads putting our chairman in the spotlight, I thought I have a closer look at how we have developed over the years im just counting the 4 most important stats from each season and producing the... Average league position Average FA CUP Progress Average League Cup Progress Average Attendance
1st decade 15.4th in League 2 FA Cup Round 1.5 League Cup Round 1.1 Average Attendance 3737 2nd decade 3.9th in League 2 FA Cup Round 1.7 League Cup Round 1.8 Average Attendance 5525 current decade ( 8 years ) 15th League 1 FA Cup Round 3.125 League Cup Round 1.375 Average Attendance 6176 not to shabby as far as progress goes ;-) The more you post the more I think you’re actually a Roland burner account Facts are facts, not sure why you are trying to derail an interesting topic discussion. RW has done more for the club we love than any of us will ever do.
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Post by DiglisShrew on May 11, 2024 18:47:52 GMT 1
Because I suspect if the result of this research by Pilch had not been favourable to RW he wouldn’t have posted it !! 🤔
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Post by Pilch on May 11, 2024 18:59:29 GMT 1
Because I suspect if the result of this research by Pilch had not been favourable to RW he wouldn’t have posted it !! 🤔 I created the thread before I even knew the results , I actually surprised myself when they appeared , but hey don't let me stop you shooting the messenger about this pesky thread 😳😳
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Post by DiglisShrew on May 11, 2024 19:39:13 GMT 1
Because I suspect if the result of this research by Pilch had not been favourable to RW he wouldn’t have posted it !! 🤔 I created the thread before I even knew the results , I actually surprised myself when they appeared , but hey don't let me stop you shooting the messenger about this pesky thread 😳😳 I am always suspicious of the threads you start with “just for fun” they usually have a “message” 🤔😉
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Post by Pilch on May 11, 2024 19:54:09 GMT 1
Can we get back on topic
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Post by DiglisShrew on May 11, 2024 20:22:18 GMT 1
Yes good progress but far far away from the original ambitions when we moved to the new ground .
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Post by suttonshrew on May 11, 2024 20:36:45 GMT 1
For a club our size we are doing ok, but that’s it, we aren’t excelling and we aren’t failing. Fact is we seem to have hit a bit of a wall now, that in turn is going to cause stagnation which doesn’t help. In some ways would it be better to go down and be pushing for playoffs??
Can’t answer that, but we need something to now push us forward
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Post by sheltonsalopian on May 11, 2024 20:49:26 GMT 1
To provide some balance…
I don’t doubt or take for granted what Roland has done for the club in the past 28 years. He’s no doubt progressed us.
My gripes are with his management of the club and the mess we are apparently in at the moment. He took his eye off the ball badly, and we are now in a state where we are hemorrhaging money. I could stomach the dross football and lack of ambition as I understood the club wanted to be ran sustainably, but honestly with the mess we’re in now what was the point?
Also minor grudge about the Hurst miracle season - if ever there was a time to push the boat out it was that January transfer window, might have even realised the dream of championship football. Instead it was on the cheap and the rest is history.
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Post by Pilch on May 12, 2024 7:20:36 GMT 1
To provide some balance… I don’t doubt or take for granted what Roland has done for the club in the past 28 years. He’s no doubt progressed us. My gripes are with his management of the club and the mess we are apparently in at the moment. He his eye off the ball badly, and we are now in a state where we are hemorrhaging money. I could stomach the dross football and lack of ambition as I understood the club wanted to be ran sustainably, but honestly with the mess we’re in now what was the point? Also minor grudge about the Hurst miracle season - if ever there was a time to push the boat out it was that January transfer window, might have even realised the dream of championship football. Instead it was on the cheap and the rest is history. What would you have done differently in the January ? Bearing in mind youve used up your ffp budget already and you now have hindsight in your favour too , so what would you have done to get us another 10 points on top of the 87 we achieved ?
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Post by vladimir on May 12, 2024 15:39:51 GMT 1
To provide some balance… I don’t doubt or take for granted what Roland has done for the club in the past 28 years. He’s no doubt progressed us. My gripes are with his management of the club and the mess we are apparently in at the moment. He his eye off the ball badly, and we are now in a state where we are hemorrhaging money. I could stomach the dross football and lack of ambition as I understood the club wanted to be ran sustainably, but honestly with the mess we’re in now what was the point? Also minor grudge about the Hurst miracle season - if ever there was a time to push the boat out it was that January transfer window, might have even realised the dream of championship football. Instead it was on the cheap and the rest is history. What would you have done differently in the January ? Bearing in mind youve used up your ffp budget already and you now have hindsight in your favour too , so what would you have done to get us another 10 points on top of the 87 we achieved ? Had we used the ffp budget? The club turned a profit that season which implies there should've been funds available to look beyond Sam Jones.
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Post by sheltonsalopian on May 12, 2024 15:50:27 GMT 1
To provide some balance… I don’t doubt or take for granted what Roland has done for the club in the past 28 years. He’s no doubt progressed us. My gripes are with his management of the club and the mess we are apparently in at the moment. He his eye off the ball badly, and we are now in a state where we are hemorrhaging money. I could stomach the dross football and lack of ambition as I understood the club wanted to be ran sustainably, but honestly with the mess we’re in now what was the point? Also minor grudge about the Hurst miracle season - if ever there was a time to push the boat out it was that January transfer window, might have even realised the dream of championship football. Instead it was on the cheap and the rest is history. What would you have done differently in the January ? Bearing in mind youve used up your ffp budget already and you now have hindsight in your favour too , so what would you have done to get us another 10 points on top of the 87 we achieved ? FFP didn’t exist in its current guise that season - we also ended up making a profit due to the cup runs.
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Post by Pilch on May 12, 2024 15:53:05 GMT 1
What would you have done differently in the January ? Bearing in mind youve used up your ffp budget already and you now have hindsight in your favour too , so what would you have done to get us another 10 points on top of the 87 we achieved ? Had we used the ffp budget? The club turned a profit that season which implies there should've been funds available to look beyond Sam Jones. Lol So answer this How much do you think we had and who would you have signed ?
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Post by Valerioch on May 12, 2024 16:01:34 GMT 1
Football has moved on and Roland needs to aswell
It’s been proven he can’t run a club in this day and age
New investment and ownership needed urgently
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on May 12, 2024 16:10:20 GMT 1
I have got a new way of looking at it.
1st Decade: Campaign for Blue and Amber 2nd Decade: Campaign for the Loggerheads 3rd Decade: Campaign for toilet seats.
I know those dates are inaccurate but it tells another story. A great many of the things had have irritated, disenfranchised and lost us fans over the last 28 years actually have nothing to do with the play on the pitch and everything to do with activities off it.
That feels sad because almost all of it is avoidable and an own goal.
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Post by davycrockett on May 12, 2024 16:17:52 GMT 1
What would you have done differently in the January ? Bearing in mind youve used up your ffp budget already and you now have hindsight in your favour too , so what would you have done to get us another 10 points on top of the 87 we achieved ? Had we used the ffp budget? The club turned a profit that season which implies there should've been funds available to look beyond Sam Jones. We had income streams from player sales and sell ons like Connor Goldson moving to Rangers in 2018… Remember Brian saying 20/21 was the first year we hadn’t got staggered transfere payments coming through.
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Post by pughywasfree on May 12, 2024 16:21:10 GMT 1
Football has moved on and Roland needs to aswell It’s been proven he can’t run a club in this day and age New investment and ownership needed urgently Football has moved on and Roland needs to aswell - Correct but only for his sanity and for someone with lots of money to waste to come in It’s been proven he can’t run a club in this day and age - No it hasnt, the majority of clubs lost big in the last few years. New investment and ownership needed urgently - Investment yes but new ownership is not urgently needed. RW will do what needs to be done to safeguard the future of the club for the foreseeable future. It's the right time to sell but if he doesn't I will not be concerned about it.
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Post by Pilch on May 12, 2024 16:29:14 GMT 1
Football has moved on and Roland needs to aswell It’s been proven he can’t run a club in this day and age New investment and ownership needed urgently show your proof
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Post by Pilch on May 12, 2024 16:37:29 GMT 1
Had we used the ffp budget? The club turned a profit that season which implies there should've been funds available to look beyond Sam Jones. We had income streams from player sales and sell ons like Connor Goldson moving to Rangers in 2018… Remember Brian saying 20/21 was the first year we hadn’t got staggered transfere payments coming through. 🤥 hurst was at Ipswich when goldson joined rangers Its amazing how desperate some are to claim we failed in by far our best season in decades 😝
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Post by The Shropshire Tenor on May 12, 2024 16:48:14 GMT 1
I’m grateful we’re in the Football League at all, let alone in the 3rd tier. But I was brought up on my Dad’s stories about our struggle to get elected and the first games I saw were in the Midland League.
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Post by filmcrewshrew1 on May 12, 2024 16:48:16 GMT 1
Whilst your sometimes nauseatingly club biased Pilch got say fair play good stats.
Shows under RW and the move it has been beneficial for the club and the town given positions and attendances.
One thing now can’t be denied is we are an established 3rd tier side whereas previously mates always used to say “ahh town are just a 4th division side in reality”
Ten season in the 3rd now says you’re wrong mate.
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