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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Apr 21, 2024 22:22:07 GMT 1
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Post by Pilch on Apr 21, 2024 22:28:38 GMT 1
Harsh but Ground problems has over the years has caused upset for a sides in that league , i remember Stevenage winning the league early 90s and not going up
same for kiddy around the same time
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Apr 21, 2024 22:35:30 GMT 1
Harsh but Ground problems has over the years has caused upset for a sides in that league , i remember Stevenage winning the league early 90s and not going up same for kiddy around the same time And Macclesfield. Their ground was not fit for the FL, but it was ok for then FL Chester to play at as a temporary measure. The FL dont help themselves sometimes do they......
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Post by gainsparkshrew on Apr 21, 2024 22:36:57 GMT 1
No excuses and I suppose shame on their council but with councils not having any money I'm sure that they have other plans for the stadium.
Note that the National League have acted correctly as at first they said that Solihull would get a bye through to the next stage, despite Altrincham finishing above them. However sanity has prevailed and Altrincham have now got the bye
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Post by Pilch on Apr 21, 2024 22:43:12 GMT 1
Harsh but Ground problems has over the years has caused upset for a sides in that league , i remember Stevenage winning the league early 90s and not going up same for kiddy around the same time And Macclesfield. Their ground was not fit for the FL, but it was ok for then FL Chester to play at as a temporary measure. The FL dont help themselves sometimes do they...... Not sure if connected but if you remember the video you posted about Scarborough a few weeks ago it was mayhem when they entertained wolves after being promoted to the league , I guess they have to draw the line somewhere no matter how harsh it is
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Post by gobowenshrew on Apr 21, 2024 23:09:30 GMT 1
Solihull initially given a bye as Gateshead's original opponent but seems the National League didn't even read their own rules before correctly (in my opinion) giving the bye to Altrincham, who finished above the Moors in the league.
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Post by belfastshrew on Apr 21, 2024 23:24:36 GMT 1
I feel so sorry for Gateshead. Imagine being one of their fans. Imagine all their players. Imagine all the people, livin life in peace. Imagine if Town get playoffs next season, then the Championship turns round and says we don't meet the requirements to be in their league. Why even be in the league to begin with 🤷♂️ bonkers.
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Post by gainsparkshrew on Apr 22, 2024 9:06:17 GMT 1
I feel so sorry for Gateshead. Imagine being one of their fans. Imagine all their players. Imagine all the people, livin life in peace. Imagine if Town get playoffs next season, then the Championship turns round and says we don't meet the requirements to be in their league. Why even be in the league to begin with 🤷♂️ bonkers. .......straying towards John Lenno n there Belfast. From what I've read the football club and council were well aware of the rules over 18months ago to and the council did nothing to help the club. In case you don't know EFL rules stage that you must have security of tenure on your ground for at least 10 years. Gateshead Council wouldn't give such a guarantee to the football club.....end of story
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Post by Rusholme Ruffian on Apr 22, 2024 11:41:28 GMT 1
No excuses and I suppose shame on their council but with councils not having any money I'm sure that they have other plans for the stadium. Note that the National League have acted correctly as at first they said that Solihull would get a bye through to the next stage, despite Altrincham finishing above them. However sanity has prevailed and Altrincham have now got the bye Councils have got no cash. Sounds like they might be looking to sell, and so can't give 10 year lease which is fairly understandable. As a local authority employee facing cuts and redundancies, unfortunately leisure facilities are always going to be one of the things they look at to cut costs. Awful for players and fans but the club must have been aware for some time this was going to happen. At least I guess they didn't win the league - they were 6th. Not like they've stormed the league and utterly deserve to go up. Does make a funny off season though - what's the goal next season?!
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Post by Rusholme Ruffian on Apr 22, 2024 11:46:31 GMT 1
Solihull initially given a bye as Gateshead's original opponent but seems the National League didn't even read their own rules before correctly (in my opinion) giving the bye to Altrincham, who finished above the Moors in the league. me a while (and it sounds like it did with the league) but I think it is fair to award the team doing better in the league over the season
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Apr 22, 2024 12:03:34 GMT 1
Solihull initially given a bye as Gateshead's original opponent but seems the National League didn't even read their own rules before correctly (in my opinion) giving the bye to Altrincham, who finished above the Moors in the league. me a while (and it sounds like it did with the league) but I think it is fair to award the team doing better in the league over the season That's exactly what they do with their play offs. The higher you finish gets to play at home in their plays off games. So only right the same applies in this case.
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Post by gainsparkshrew on Apr 22, 2024 12:58:34 GMT 1
No excuses and I suppose shame on their council but with councils not having any money I'm sure that they have other plans for the stadium. Note that the National League have acted correctly as at first they said that Solihull would get a bye through to the next stage, despite Altrincham finishing above them. However sanity has prevailed and Altrincham have now got the bye Councils have got no cash. Sounds like they might be looking to sell, and so can't give 10 year lease which is fairly understandable. As a local authority employee facing cuts and redundancies, unfortunately leisure facilities are always going to be one of the things they look at to cut costs. Awful for players and fans but the club must have been aware for some time this was going to happen. At least I guess they didn't win the league - they were 6th. Not like they've stormed the league and utterly deserve to go up. Does make a funny off season though - what's the goal next season?! Yeah I read the article and immediately thought that the council are probably looking to sell the land for demolition and house buildings.Obviously aware of the FL rule but didn't think that Gateshead would get to that position. In other council/ football club news I see Hereford council have given the Bulls a new lease up until 2070. Wouldn't imagine our council would do something positive like that if we rented the stadium from them
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Post by venceremos on Apr 22, 2024 14:58:39 GMT 1
Councils have got no cash. Sounds like they might be looking to sell, and so can't give 10 year lease which is fairly understandable. As a local authority employee facing cuts and redundancies, unfortunately leisure facilities are always going to be one of the things they look at to cut costs. Awful for players and fans but the club must have been aware for some time this was going to happen. At least I guess they didn't win the league - they were 6th. Not like they've stormed the league and utterly deserve to go up. Does make a funny off season though - what's the goal next season?! Yeah I read the article and immediately thought that the council are probably looking to sell the land for demolition and house buildings.Obviously aware of the FL rule but didn't think that Gateshead would get to that position. In other council/ football club news I see Hereford council have given the Bulls a new lease up until 2070. Wouldn't imagine our council would do something positive like that if we rented the stadium from them Positive? You only do that if you've no better alternative. You might not have the maintenance and security costs f you don't own your stadium, but you've also got no revenue from any other use of it, or from food and drink sales (12% of our turnover in the last accounts).
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Post by servernaside on Apr 22, 2024 15:04:15 GMT 1
Promotions and relegations increasingly being settled by off-field issues.
It's a slippery slope, folks.
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Post by gainsparkshrew on Apr 22, 2024 17:56:37 GMT 1
Yeah I read the article and immediately thought that the council are probably looking to sell the land for demolition and house buildings.Obviously aware of the FL rule but didn't think that Gateshead would get to that position. In other council/ football club news I see Hereford council have given the Bulls a new lease up until 2070. Wouldn't imagine our council would do something positive like that if we rented the stadium from them Positive? You only do that if you've no better alternative. You might not have the maintenance and security costs f you don't own your stadium, but you've also got no revenue from any other use of it, or from food and drink sales (12% of our turnover in the last accounts). Ref revenue from food and drink sales, think that only applied to Coventry at the Ricoh. Don't think that it applies to Hereford otherwise they wouldn't have spent a huge amount of money,after Turner sold out, restoring Radfords etc
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Apr 23, 2024 13:28:27 GMT 1
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Post by northwestman on Apr 24, 2024 11:21:12 GMT 1
Great chance for Altrincham now though!
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Post by The Shropshire Tenor on Apr 24, 2024 22:32:19 GMT 1
Great chance for Altrincham now though! Altrincham are on great form, won 7, drawn 1, lost 1 of their last 9. Ironically the loss was to Gateshead. They are proving the value of stability, their manager and assistant are in their 7th season and were retained despite a couple of disappointing seasons after they regained their National League place.
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Post by tarporleyblue on Apr 24, 2024 23:01:46 GMT 1
Great chance for Altrincham now though! Altrincham are on great form, won 7, drawn 1, lost 1 of their last 9. Ironically the loss was to Gateshead. They are proving the value of stability, their manager and assistant are in their 7th season and were retained despite a couple of disappointing seasons after they regained their National League place. I wish them well. My daughter worked in Altrincham for a few years and I would often visit her for lunch at the market hall. A great foodie venue and a vibrant town.
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Post by northwestman on Apr 28, 2024 23:26:24 GMT 1
There'll be a new name in the EFL next season.
The National League Play Off Final is between Bromley and Solihull Moors.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Apr 28, 2024 23:59:28 GMT 1
There'll be a new name in the EFL next season. The National League Play Off Final is between Bromley and Solihull Moors. Neither of which will bring much more to the FL than Sutton or FGR imo.
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Post by Worthingshrew on Apr 29, 2024 6:23:17 GMT 1
There'll be a new name in the EFL next season. The National League Play Off Final is between Bromley and Solihull Moors. Neither of which will bring much more to the FL than Sutton or FGR imo. They probably said that about us in 1950. Bromley is a big area with large population, no reason why they couldn’t grow into a league club. Same with Solihull.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Apr 29, 2024 8:30:19 GMT 1
There'll be a new name in the EFL next season. The National League Play Off Final is between Bromley and Solihull Moors. Neither of which will bring much more to the FL than Sutton or FGR imo. But just think what it will bring to the fans of either Bromley and Solihull Moors...👍 I know you're not suggesting a closed shop but rather a preference for other clubs to make it back but for me this is what football is all about. I think its good that we'll have a new member to the 92. I mean I suspect we'd have the same levelled at us if we ever made it to the 2nd division but who cares, its just about having that shot, having that time.
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Post by mahoney on Apr 29, 2024 8:37:12 GMT 1
Neither of which will bring much more to the FL than Sutton or FGR imo. But just think what it will bring to the fans of either Bromley and Solihull Moors...👍 I know you're not suggesting a closed shop but rather a preference for other clubs to make it back but for me this is what football is all about. I think its good that we'll have a new member to the 92. I mean I suspect we'd have the same levelled at us if we ever made it to the 2nd division but who cares, its just about having that shot, having that time. For me the question is always have they got here off their own back in a financially stable way or are they part of some rich persons hobby that is doomed to end in ruin. If it's the former, congratulations and welcome. I genuinely don't know the situation with these two if anyone else can provide some background.
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Post by Exkeeper on Apr 29, 2024 8:51:14 GMT 1
Bromley have got a 3G pitch - I assume that will have to go if they come up into the EFL.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Apr 29, 2024 8:53:48 GMT 1
But just think what it will bring to the fans of either Bromley and Solihull Moors...👍 I know you're not suggesting a closed shop but rather a preference for other clubs to make it back but for me this is what football is all about. I think its good that we'll have a new member to the 92. I mean I suspect we'd have the same levelled at us if we ever made it to the 2nd division but who cares, its just about having that shot, having that time. For me the question is always have they got here off their own back in a financially stable way or are they part of some rich persons hobby that is doomed to end in ruin. If it's the former, congratulations and welcome. I genuinely don't know the situation with these two if anyone else can provide some background. I think both clubs have some history behind them (although I appreciate Moors is a little more complicated with the merger). And as I have mentioned before, every club at some point in time has needed someone to put money in to keep them sustainable and to make them competitive. I wouldn't see it as any different this time around. I just think one of the appeals of football is that you can see such things within the game. I don't tend to view it as what it brings to the League but what it brings to the supporters of those clubs. No matter how brief (as it was for Sutton, for example).
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Post by MartinB on Apr 29, 2024 9:09:09 GMT 1
Bromley have got a 3G pitch - I assume that will have to go if rmthey come up into the EFL. yes they have to rip it up or get relegated
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Post by Bob Rickerton on Apr 29, 2024 10:12:24 GMT 1
Hoping the National League just do the right thing and order the clubs by size of gate next season and promote the two highest accordingly, saving the need for any football to be played.
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Post by belfastshrew on Apr 29, 2024 10:14:06 GMT 1
I heard Solihull have lots of wonga. Recon they want a DoF? 🤣
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Post by wakemanender on Apr 29, 2024 10:25:54 GMT 1
They say that the Championship play off final is one of the biggest and most lucrative in World football but for me the National League final is the biggest especially when it is between two clubs who have never experienced league football before. What a great prospect for the supporters and the people behind the scenes many of whom will have been volunteers for many many years. Proper football.
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