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Post by jamo on Apr 20, 2024 17:19:14 GMT 1
That takes the pressure off for next Saturday, perhaps we can enjoy going to the Meadow for once this season. I never really thought we would go down once Taylor was let go mainly because of the poor form of others below us but it’s nice to have it confirmed.
Hurst has shown some nouse and commitment since he returned but now he really needs to grow a pair and be very clear with the Chairman ( or whoever replaces him) on how he expects the playing side of the club should be set up and that it is him alone that chooses and selects the playing squad.
He will never be in a stronger position to do so.
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Post by Pilch on Apr 20, 2024 17:30:19 GMT 1
Matty Taylor has a better performance record than hurst this season, although Hurst could sneak ahead with a win next saturday
Surely the chairman will tell Hurst to speak to the Americans instead ?
what's the latest on that strong rumour ?
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Post by Scarecrow on Apr 20, 2024 17:31:31 GMT 1
It’s time for Roland to move on now, Roland won’t get a better time to sell the club and make money off his investment.
Clear out of the players to come too. Moore should have to explain why this season every single one of his signings have been duds.
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Post by Pilch on Apr 20, 2024 17:34:45 GMT 1
It’s time for Roland to move on now, Roland won’t get a better time to sell the club and make money off his investment. Clear out of the players to come too. Moore should have to explain why this season every single one of his signings have been duds. never a better time to sell equates to one thing = its not a buyers market
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Post by mrcricket on Apr 20, 2024 17:38:51 GMT 1
Have you all got your fancy dress outfits sorted?
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Post by tarporleyblue on Apr 20, 2024 18:07:48 GMT 1
It would be good if we could finish off the season with a home win. Our results at home since Hurst over have been poor, overall we sit 19th in the home table, (and 18th away). Less than a goal a game, even at home really needs to be improved on next season if we are not to face another season of struggle. www.soccerstats.com/homeaway.asp?league=england3
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Post by jamo on Apr 20, 2024 18:20:55 GMT 1
Our results at home since Hurst over have been poor, overall we sit 19th in the home table, (and 18th away). Less than a goal a game, even at home really needs to be improved on next season if we are not to face another season of struggle In fairness none of these are his players so he deserves some credit, hence the real need for him to stamp his authority on matters from here on in to make sure he has complete control. No excuses then it if goes pear shaped
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Post by Pilch on Apr 20, 2024 18:33:14 GMT 1
Our results at home since Hurst over have been poor, overall we sit 19th in the home table, (and 18th away). Less than a goal a game, even at home really needs to be improved on next season if we are not to face another season of struggle In fairness none of these are his players so he deserves some credit, hence the real need for him to stamp his authority on matters from here on in to make sure he has complete control. No excuses then it if goes pear shaped Hinchy, Price , Tulloch are his
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Post by cabanas2017 on Apr 20, 2024 19:07:40 GMT 1
In fairness none of these are his players so he deserves some credit, hence the real need for him to stamp his authority on matters from here on in to make sure he has complete control. No excuses then it if goes pear shaped Hinchy, Price , Tulloch are his Could argue Hinchy and Price ( vital goal) have been pivotal in contributing to us staying up in the short time they have been here
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Post by mrcricket on Apr 20, 2024 20:55:06 GMT 1
Matty Taylor has a better performance record than hurst this season, although Hurst could sneak ahead with a win next saturday Surely the chairman will tell Hurst to speak to the Americans instead ? what's the latest on that strong rumour ? Is there a stat between Hurst and Taylors home and away form? - I suspect Taylors is better at home and Hurst's away,
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Post by Chief Inspector Swan on Apr 20, 2024 21:22:55 GMT 1
Moore should have to explain why this season every single one of his signings have been duds. lol, you rarely disappoint with your pre-teen histrionics. Please keep ‘em coming.
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Post by blueboy48 on Apr 20, 2024 23:02:03 GMT 1
Moore's record on signings is not too bad at all, especially considering he had very little money to play with. His brief was to survive in League 1 and to hopefully unearth some young talent. He's achieved his first objective but that's surely down to Hurst. We will all have differing opinions on players but this is how I view his signings plus his decision making.
Feeny - one of our best performers. Benning. - another top performer. Perry - good debut season, still young. Sabowale- exciting. Adjusting to Lge 1 Winchester- signed after loan. Good. Bennett - Should have player more. Pierre - played regular until injury Anderson - came good at the end. Bloxham - good decision to loan out. Has starred on his return. Sraha Ok on times, Idowu barely played Mata not ready at best. Burgoyne decent backup.
Three players signed with Hurst here.
Jack Price Class. Hope he can get fit. McCulloch Barely played. Hinchey Contributed but found it hard To adjust to Lge 1.
I would argue Moore had done well enough with his signings. It's a tough ask for young inexperienced players to come into a disfuntional team and settle quickly. Its the senior players who need to look at themselves.
Im still expecting big changes which will include some of the above players plus some high earners out of contract.
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Post by mrcricket on Apr 20, 2024 23:28:53 GMT 1
I think to class Bennett and Winchester as Moore signing is clutching at straws, there are Cotterill signings, same with Pierre he was original brought in by Ricketts but you could make a better case there.
Feeney and Benning are the only new signings any good.
Hurst has realised that the squad cannot play his football, Signing a less than half fit Jack Price after Exeter demonstrates that.
I just hope it will be different next season.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Apr 21, 2024 8:16:10 GMT 1
I think to class Bennett and Winchester as Moore signing is clutching at straws, there are Cotterill signings, same with Pierre he was original brought in by Ricketts but you could make a better case there. Feeney and Benning are the only new signings any good. Hurst has realised that the squad cannot play his football, Signing a less than half fit Jack Price after Exeter demonstrates that. I just hope it will be different next season. I think Moore may well have signed the contracts but yes, the likes of Bennett, Winchester, Pierre and I’d even argue Price and Hurst will have all been put right in front of his face by someone, so I wouldn’t say they’re a glowing endorsement of his skills. A lot of talk about his signings, but his disastrous appointment of Matt Taylor and bringing in his good mate as assistant manager nearly ruined us, not only for this season but future seasons to come. We can only hope he’s learned and that Hurst won’t stand for the same s**t.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Apr 21, 2024 8:18:16 GMT 1
Moore's record on signings is not too bad at all, especially considering he had very little money to play with. His brief was to survive in League 1 and to hopefully unearth some young talent. He's achieved his first objective but that's surely down to Hurst. We will all have differing opinions on players but this is how I view his signings plus his decision making. Feeny - one of our best performers. Benning. - another top performer. Perry - good debut season, still young. Sabowale- exciting. Adjusting to Lge 1 Winchester- signed after loan. Good. Bennett - Should have player more. Pierre - played regular until injury Anderson - came good at the end. Bloxham - good decision to loan out. Has starred on his return. Sraha Ok on times, Idowu barely played Mata not ready at best. Burgoyne decent backup. Three players signed with Hurst here. Jack Price Class. Hope he can get fit. McCulloch Barely played. Hinchey Contributed but found it hard To adjust to Lge 1. I would argue Moore had done well enough with his signings. It's a tough ask for young inexperienced players to come into a disfuntional team and settle quickly. Its the senior players who need to look at themselves. Im still expecting big changes which will include some of the above players plus some high earners out of contract. Appreciate your optimism but to call Anderson as ‘came good in the end’ made me chuckle. He’s played well in two games, that’s surely not the barometer for a successful signing?!
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Post by Valerioch on Apr 21, 2024 8:24:57 GMT 1
Moore's record on signings is not too bad at all, especially considering he had very little money to play with. His brief was to survive in League 1 and to hopefully unearth some young talent. He's achieved his first objective but that's surely down to Hurst. We will all have differing opinions on players but this is how I view his signings plus his decision making. Feeny - one of our best performers. Benning. - another top performer. Perry - good debut season, still young. Sabowale- exciting. Adjusting to Lge 1 Winchester- signed after loan. Good. Bennett - Should have player more. Pierre - played regular until injury Anderson - came good at the end. Bloxham - good decision to loan out. Has starred on his return. Sraha Ok on times, Idowu barely played Mata not ready at best. Burgoyne decent backup. Three players signed with Hurst here. Jack Price Class. Hope he can get fit. McCulloch Barely played. Hinchey Contributed but found it hard To adjust to Lge 1. I would argue Moore had done well enough with his signings. It's a tough ask for young inexperienced players to come into a disfuntional team and settle quickly. Its the senior players who need to look at themselves. Im still expecting big changes which will include some of the above players plus some high earners out of contract. Fair play that is a shocking take 😂 what do you watch!?
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Post by blueboy48 on Apr 21, 2024 9:23:25 GMT 1
Moore's record on signings is not too bad at all, especially considering he had very little money to play with. His brief was to survive in League 1 and to hopefully unearth some young talent. He's achieved his first objective but that's surely down to Hurst. We will all have differing opinions on players but this is how I view his signings plus his decision making. Feeny - one of our best performers. Benning. - another top performer. Perry - good debut season, still young. Sabowale- exciting. Adjusting to Lge 1 Winchester- signed after loan. Good. Bennett - Should have player more. Pierre - played regular until injury Anderson - came good at the end. Bloxham - good decision to loan out. Has starred on his return. Sraha Ok on times, Idowu barely played Mata not ready at best. Burgoyne decent backup. Three players signed with Hurst here. Jack Price Class. Hope he can get fit. McCulloch Barely played. Hinchey Contributed but found it hard To adjust to Lge 1. I would argue Moore had done well enough with his signings. It's a tough ask for young inexperienced players to come into a disfuntional team and settle quickly. Its the senior players who need to look at themselves. Im still expecting big changes which will include some of the above players plus some high earners out of contract. Fair play that is a shocking take 😂 what do you watch!? Seven of those played in the last two away games at Bolton and Charlton. Two of our best performances of the season. Like all of us I've watched some depressing football this season and the end of last season as it happens. I've watched young players with potential and I've watched senior players go AWOL in games. I've watched an inexperienced coach (Taylor) struggle to get performances and I've watched a very experienced coach struggle as well. Hurst, Just like Anderson, got there in the end. Im looking forward to Hurst sorting out the squad in the summer and getting them super fit. Interesting times ahead.
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Post by ProudSalopian on Apr 21, 2024 9:27:40 GMT 1
As was mentioned on the AGM thread, we were told we would hear from the club after this regarding our financial position, so I'm wondering whether we will get an end of season statement from Roland which wraps it all up.
If you believe the rumours then this summer could also be a turbulent one, will all the big earners be ditched? Will Moore still be in a job? Will Roland finally find a buyer? I certainly expect another upheaval on the playing side, the other things are very much speculation and we could just end up continuing as is. If it is the latter, the main thing for me is whether Roland & Duncan are still bankrolling us - if so, how do we stop that?
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Post by ProudSalopian on Apr 21, 2024 9:31:53 GMT 1
As for the signings, the loans have been a disaster, how many minutes have the 7 of them actually played? The Irish signings have proven to be another disaster and will probably be costly ones as they are on long contracts. The other perms have been a mixed bag, nothing spectacular and probably sums up why we are where we are.
The big question for me is whether Roland will trust Moore enough to oversee another season of recruitment
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Post by chirkshrew on Apr 21, 2024 9:46:48 GMT 1
No way will Moore be trusted with signings,without hursts say so......simple as👍👍
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Post by davycrockett on Apr 21, 2024 10:12:07 GMT 1
As was mentioned on the AGM thread, we were told we would hear from the club after this regarding our financial position, so I'm wondering whether we will get an end of season statement from Roland which wraps it all up. If you believe the rumours then this summer could also be a turbulent one, will all the big earners be ditched? Will Moore still be in a job? Will Roland finally find a buyer? I certainly expect another upheaval on the playing side, the other things are very much speculation and we could just end up continuing as is. If it is the latter, the main thing for me is whether Roland & Duncan are still bankrolling us - if so, how do we stop that? We’ve sold 3000 STs since Feb so I doubt they’re funding just at the moment. The fact they did has changed my views on them. The fact we haven’t got a reserve and without investors queuing up they've more than done their bit this season. Cant continue though we must have a plan to both compete (better than this season) and remain prudent without a need for Directors Loans. Liams may be part of the answer but outside investment either from a new owner or investor is key. The fact they’ve been using their own money will surely focus minds on changing this. Still waiting on the detail following the AGM which may indicate the direction over the summer. Would have thought by now we’d have heard from someone present.
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Post by davycrockett on Apr 21, 2024 10:14:32 GMT 1
No way will Moore be trusted with signings,without hursts say so......simple as👍👍 I don’t think he was last season. He signed Mata but Taylor visited Ireland to watch him and agree first. With an experienced Manager in everything but title Moore would be crazy not to use his knowledge and network.
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Post by tarporleyblue on Apr 21, 2024 10:16:25 GMT 1
As was mentioned on the AGM thread, we were told we would hear from the club after this regarding our financial position, so I'm wondering whether we will get an end of season statement from Roland which wraps it all up. If you believe the rumours then this summer could also be a turbulent one, will all the big earners be ditched? Will Moore still be in a job? Will Roland finally find a buyer? I certainly expect another upheaval on the playing side, the other things are very much speculation and we could just end up continuing as is. If it is the latter, the main thing for me is whether Roland & Duncan are still bankrolling us - if so, how do we stop that? We’ve sold 3000 STs since Feb so I doubt they’re funding just at the moment. The fact they did has changed my views on them. The fact we haven’t got a reserve and without investors queuing up they've more than done their bit this season. Cant continue though we must have a plan to both compete (better than this season) and remain prudent without a need for Directors Loans. Liams may be part of the answer but outside investment either from a new owner or investor is key. The fact they’ve been using their own money will surely focus minds on changing this. Still waiting on the detail following the AGM which may indicate the direction over the summer. Would have thought by now we’d have heard from someone present. Dibblydobbly did say that he would take questions to the AGM but nothing came of it.
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Post by tarporleyblue on Apr 21, 2024 10:18:48 GMT 1
As for the signings, the loans have been a disaster, how many minutes have the 7 of them actually played? The Irish signings have proven to be another disaster and will probably be costly ones as they are on long contracts. The other perms have been a mixed bag, nothing spectacular and probably sums up why we are where we are. The big question for me is whether Roland will trust Moore enough to oversee another season of recruitment I notice that Max Mata has failed to score for a few games now, and has been subbed a few times too.
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Post by secretshrew on Apr 21, 2024 10:28:30 GMT 1
I think I’ve sussed out the early season signing strategy: sign a ton of players and some of them will come good and maybe one of them will turn into a gem! I think we’ll do similar this summer but way less of them and of a higher standard. And a less Irish flavour! It’ll be an interesting summer especially given a lot of clubs will be tightening their purse strings given the amount of debt within football.
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Post by jontifree on Apr 21, 2024 10:56:55 GMT 1
As for the signings, the loans have been a disaster, how many minutes have the 7 of them actually played? Absolutely and loans are going to be key to survival next season. I do think next season will also be about survival (normally super optimistic but maybe age is making me more of a realist). These budget issues don't get resolved overnight, unless Margot Robbie comes in to buy the club, so I'm not expecting to see us sign proven players.
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Post by wickedwilleh on Apr 21, 2024 11:06:04 GMT 1
No way will Moore be trusted with signings,without hursts say so......simple as👍👍 Why would we need him then? He should be the first out of the door to save money in my opinion.
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Post by davycrockett on Apr 21, 2024 11:35:49 GMT 1
No way will Moore be trusted with signings,without hursts say so......simple as👍👍 Why would we need him then? He should be the first out of the door to save money in my opinion. Hang on. When he arrived he said his proudest moment was keeping Cheltenham out of the relegation zone all season. He’s done the same here this season, if we released him maybe we’d suffer the same fate as Cheltenham after losing him. Depends if you believe in fate I guess.
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Post by chirkshrew on Apr 21, 2024 11:36:18 GMT 1
I totally agree,but didn't want to say it!!.... it'll save us a few bob....use him as part time scout.... secretaries are there to do the paper work for signings,and everything else.....Mal Starkey done the lot years ago!!!
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Post by gtismygod on Apr 21, 2024 11:43:39 GMT 1
How would getting rid of Moore save us money? He’s signed a contract with the club - we’d have to pay him off.
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